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Blessings Of Abraham

What's the blessing of Abraham?

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This year Eid-Al-Adha (the Festival of Sacrifice) falls on Wednesday, Dec. 18th '07, is on the 10th day of the month of Zul-Hijja of muslim calender.

The Hajj, or pilgrimage to Makkah is a central duty of Islam whose origins date back to the time of Prophet Abraham. It brings together Muslims of all races and tongues for one of life's most moving spiritual experiences. For 14 centuries, countless millions of Muslims, men and women from all over the world, have made the pilgrimage to Mecca.
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#1 It is the Abrahamic Covenant - Gen.12:1-3 Abraham is a pattern for us. He felt no regret. We wont make mistakes if we follow him,and understand the lessons of his life.
Jesus never obeyed the flesh. He took orders from God only. He gave God the first place in His life; Abram was over the top in his obedience to God. His reward will also be over the top because of his faithfulness.
---Debbie on 8/29/07


[cont] Please let me know if I'm just way off base in my understanding :). Thanks!
---Benny on 8/6/06


Bruce and Debbie, I confess to being a theological neophyte so please bear with my naive questions. I can't seem to find any points of disagreement between what you guys have written. Bruce I think you absoutely right the Abrahamic covenant being specific to Abraham and his descendants, but I don't think Debbie contradicted that. She is merely saying that as believers we can follow Abraham's pattern of faith and be blessed for that, not that the Abrahamic covenant somehow got extended to us.
---Benny on 8/6/06


#2 Ephesians chapter 1-3 reveal all that God has given us and who we are in Christ. It is all God and not at all of us. Just like Abraham we have to believe God. Ephesians 4-6 explain what God expects from us,He shows us how to live this life that He has so graciously given us. I appreciate the Scriptures yu gave as references, but you see, they speak something different, richer , to my heart ans soul.
---Debbie on 8/3/06




#1 Bruce, I am sorry you can't see this wonderful truth. It is yours but you have to receive it, God won't force it on you. This is the way it is with all of our provisional blessings which God gave us at the moment we received Jesus as Savior and Lord. The problem is most of God's children don't know who they are or what they have been provided by God by His grace.
---Debbie on 8/3/06


PART ONE:
There is nothing insightful about what Debbie said..

The covenant God made with Abraham Gen 12:1-3 was specifically directed to Abraham and not us today. God made no such promises to anyone else.

Heb 11:6 speaks of the faith that it takes to please God. It was this kind of faith that Abraham demonstrated as we are told in Gen 15:6 and is recounted in
---Bruce5656 on 8/3/06


PART TWO:
Romans 4:3, "For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness."

Rom 4:16-24 is a repeating of the covenant God made with Abraham. There is no promise there that we were to have that same covenant with God.Only that if we believe (as he did) and not trust in the flesh (as the Jews were), we may be saved and counted in the number of Abrahams (spiritual) descendents.
---Bruce5656 on 8/3/06


PART THREE:
Gal 3:5-18 is a repeating of the above truth with the assurance that Galatians 3:14, "That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith."

The blessing of Abraham is the receiving of the promise of the Spirit through faith. Plain and simple.
---Bruce5656 on 8/3/06


PART FOUR:
There is nothing mysterious about this, nor is there some sort of transfer of the Abrahamic covenant to us today other than as to how it relates to salvation by faith alone.

God is not going to make of us a great nation That was accomplished through Abrahams seed.
---Bruce5656 on 8/3/06




PART FIVE:
He is not necessarily going to make our name great Luke 21:17, "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake." Our reward is in Heaven, not on this earth. What about all the others in Heb 11 who remain nameless but, none the less were counted among the men and women of faith?
---Bruce5656 on 8/3/06


PART SIX:
There is no promise to us that those who bless us will be blessed or that those who curse us will be cursed.

All the families of the earth will not be blessed in us. That was a messianic prophecy. It is as Jesus came to bring salvation to all, that the families of the earth were blessed through Abrahams seed.
---Bruce5656 on 8/3/06


Ryan, I would like a Bible Study. I live in Oklahoma. I left another post a couple lines up. Search out gracegod.com and also "Gospel of Grace".
---Debbie on 8/3/06


I 100% agree with Debbie. I would like to share: I was a baby Christian in 1983, while reading Genesis, I read, "Whoever blesses you, I will bless, whoever curses you, I will curse." I felt that scripture leap directly into my Spirit. Today, 23 years later the blessings of Abraham have fallen upon me and those who have come against me, well let's just say,have fallen in some way. I have grieved for them tremendously. Study Abraham's life, it's RICH and it's for us too!
---Donna9759 on 8/3/06


Debbie, when we share our talents both parties become blessed. I totally agree we have only scratched the surface. I would love to have studies with you if at all possible. So would my family. THe word of God is infinitly rich with wisdom and truth. I am in the states. In the wonderful and beautiful California. And you?
---Ryan on 8/3/06


Ryan, I can't tell you how you have blessed me. I have been praying that someone would grasp these truths and be blessed. This goes so much deeper, we have just scratched the surface. Are you in the states and if so where?
---Debbie on 8/3/06


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Debbie, my dad, mom, wife and myself have been studying all the things you have been saying and I have shared what you have posted with them. We would all like to thank you. We had the pieces and were putting them together and I truly believe the Holy Spirit has done a work here because what you have said has helped us tremendously.
Spiritualy prosperous are those that hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be satisfied (In their soul).
---Ryan on 8/3/06


Debbie, I find your posts profound insightful and spiritual. Do you have any resource material you would reccomend for reading and study? Is there any way to contact you directly?
---Ryan on 8/2/06


#3 All who believe & obey God will receive the same. We will obey God when we believe Him. Some one may say, "That was Abraham; we cant do what he did." We can, He rewards us according to our works, it must be a work of faith and a labor of love. HEBREWS 11:6 His grace is the power of both; God says, "I will bless thee." When He says this, He does not forget; Fulfillment of Abraham's promise is seen in Romans 4:16-24 and Gal. 3:5-18.
---Debbie on 8/2/06


#2 Listen to Gods words to Abram, #1 "I will make thee a great nation; #2 I will bless thee and #3 make thy name great, and #4 thou shalt be a blessing." And #5 I will bless them that bless thee, and #6 curse him that curseth thee: and #7 in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. It is a perfect reward for perfect obedience. He was promised fruit-fulness, prosperity and fame for himself; More over, he was the channel of Divine grace to others.
---Debbie on 8/2/06


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