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Can Christians Be Condemned

In Romans 8:1 mention is made of no one being under condemnation if they are in Jesus Christ. Does this have reference to a person who is in Jesus Christ, stumbling, sinning, and generally messng up not being under any condemnation from the Lord?

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 ---mima on 8/3/06
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No condemnation. That's Satan. We have conviction, that's God. And really you will not need God to give you a sharp bump, if you keep a close watch on God and on yourself. Because, when you say something or do something, whichever the case may be, you will say, "OOPS, I am sorry, please forgive me my Lord, in Jesus name".>>>note: I pray so much I am not even sure what I say.
---catherine on 11/20/07


Is there anyone who does NOT stumble, sin, and generally mess up?

I've not met any such.

Which of us is NOT a stumbler and sinner?

Thank God, He is merciful.

(Of course, there's a difference between condemnation and conviction.)
---Jack on 11/20/07


Let the saint who has never sinned, let him who is free from fleshly lust, he who has never failed the Lord, he who has never needed forgiveness, let him do the condemning. There IS no condemnation for anyone in Christ Jesus. God does not condemn any of His children. If you are feeling condemnation, guilt, worthlessness, tell Satan to get thee behind!!
---Debbie on 3/20/07


once saved the only condemnation comes from satan,we as christian are under conviction from the holy spirit.
---tom2 on 8/26/06


I believe that a child of God who is in Christ, and who is honestly trying to live a right life before God even though stumbling about the place on the way, is not under condemnation.
---Helen_5378 on 8/24/06




To Kate: I think we have said the same thing only differently.
---mima on 8/24/06


I'm not sure that a person who is in Jesus Christ could egregiously sin. 1 Cor 5:5 says that such a person should be handed over to Satan so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and *his spirit saved* on the day of the Lord. 1 Cor 5:11 says that we must not associate with anyone who *calls himself a brother* but is sexually immoral or greedy ... From these two verses it seems to me that Paul did not consider these people to be saved (as yet), although they might have claimed to be.
---Benny on 8/5/06


Mima, are you rebutting my comment or did you write that prior to seeing what I wrote? I'm curious if you understood what I was saying. We believe the same thing, but maybe we just express it differently...
---Katie on 8/4/06


It is by one man's obedience that we are made acceptable to the Father and that one man was the man Christ Jesus!! It Is Christ Jesus that has brought grace and our ( mine and yours) acceptance of this grace shows us salvation.
---mima on 8/4/06


However, this is not to be taken lightly and go off and do what you want, deliberately sinning right and left. We are still called to "work out our salvation". God's word is still to be obeyed to the best of our ability. There has to be a balance between grace and obedience.
---Katie on 8/4/06




I forgot to mention in Chapter 7 Paul also says the good he wants to do, he doesn't, and the evil he doesn't want to do, he does. He's referring to the war within all us of between the flesh and the spirit. We are not perfect beings, but through Jesus we have been justified. Meaning, those who believe and confess Jesus as Lord will not be condemned to hell for their sins, for Jesus paid the cost already.
---Katie on 8/4/06


In Chapter 7 Paul talks about the war between the sinful nature and the spirit. "So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin." In Chapter 8 he goes on to say that there is no condemnation in Christ because "the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death." What the law was powerless to do, Christ did for us, so that we would not be condemned to hell.
---Katie on 8/4/06


Once a person is in Christ, i.e. born-again, they have no condemnation even if they are struggling to maintain a clean walk with the Lord. As long as a person is doing their best to live properly before the Lord then they are not under condemnation. A person comes under condemnation when they backslide.
---Helen_5378 on 8/3/06


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