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Are there any strong women Christian leaders in the world to be a role model for girls?

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This argument for Deborah hold no water, it's just as bad as people calling Mary the queen of heaven!

If Deborah and any of the women were present today they would not hold a feminist point of view that their positions indeed were to be taken out of context and listed to over throw the emphatic word of god in terms of women holding positions simply to use their sacrifice as a bragging match.

They would have seen themselves as humble silent servants of a powerful and living god not false Idols awaiting recognition, that's what feminist do.
---Carla on 9/28/10


Glen,
Will you please stop telling me I am rejecting God's word. I am not.
I am talking about women ministering to WOMEN!!!! No trying to start a women's lib movement but telling them what their place is according to God.
If women were doing this, the young women and girls of the world would not be looking for this instruction from wordly women.
They would be looking to Godly women.
So, I am trying to understand why you keep saying it is NOT my job to teach my daughter and her female friends how to be a Godly woman!
That is opposite of what the word of God states.
It tells us older women to teach younger women. Why are YOU arguing with that?
They can't learn to be Godly women from MEN!
---ginger on 9/27/10


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However, the answer to having weak rebellious men in the ministry, is not to replace them with equivalent women. They are not called to systematically train other women either.
*1 Acts 15:6, 22-33, 16:4, 20:24-31, 1Corinthians chapters 11-14, Ephesians 4:11-16, 1Timothy 1:18-19, 2:8, chapter 3, 5:17-20, Titus 1:5-13, James 5:14-15, 1Peter 4:17, 5:1-4, Jude 1.
*2 Genesis 2:18, 20, 3:16-19 (Eve desires to rule over Adam / 4:7, sin desires to rule over Cain), Numbers 12 (Miriam, not Aaron, gets leprosy), Deuteronomy 22:5, Isaiah 3:12-4:1, 32:9-14, Amos 4:1-4, 1Corinthians 11:3-16.
---Glenn on 9/27/10


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One common statements is: but men are not doing their job *1. The first answer is that there are many non ministries in the Churches. They may even be good things to do, but are not a specific function of the Church, less so when the gospel is not presented. The second is that many Pastors are busy building Kingdoms, rather than feeding their flock(s), 3John 1:9-12. The third is that many of these disordinate ministries seem quite attractive - there is no shortage of people who want a good salary, no responsibilities, and the praise of men. The fourth is that effeminate men produce masculine women *2.
---Glenn on 9/27/10


Ruth, the woman from Moab who decided to reject her peoples animosity towards the Lord and his people, Deuteronomy 23:3-6, Ruth 1:16, 2:11, 4:15. Lydia was hospitable, Acts 16:13-15, 1Peter 4:9.
Ginger, Your argument is with God. Rejecting God's word is not pleasing to Him. Psalm 1:1, 50:16-17, Proverbs 1:7, 15:33 vs. 16:18-25, Jeremiah 17:23, 1Timothy 4:1-2, 2Timothy 3:1-9, 13, 16-17, 4:3-4, 2Peter chapter 2, 3:16-18.
Mary: In 1Corinthians 14:34-35 (Ephesians 5:26) many women stop at the "keep silence in the churches", and ignore "let them ask their husbands at home". A husband has a great responsibility to learn God's word, and to protect his family from bad doctrine.
---Glenn on 9/26/10




Glenn,
Have you ever read the story of Esther(Hadassah)?

How can you say she was selfish when she directly disobeyed the King's edict and went before him without being summond to save her people from extermination?

Do you realize that she put God's command above her own life and the King's law?
That is obedience to God. Submitting not selfishness.

Do you realize her doing that would have cost her her life if God had not been in the mix and protected her and softened Xerxes' heart toward her?

And I didn't say Deborah lead. Deborah operated in the calling God placed upon her life. She was called to Judge Israel and be prophetess. These things women can do. But of course as God calls them to do.
---ginger on 9/21/10


Like it or not Glenn, women sometimes can and do minister to men too, although obviously not by preaching. For instance, writers can minister to both sexes reading their articles and stories if God so chooses. Artists, also, bless both sexes.
---Mary on 9/18/10


Glenn, I understand scripture and agree 100% with it.

But can you please post the scripture that says women are supposed to mentor other women and girls and show them the right way?

Look at the world today. The young girls coming up are horrible because they have not been shown the right way and are following after the women in the world who dress provocative, and shake and shimmy and act henious. This is because Christian men keep telling Christian women that our only place is to be silent and not say anything to help minister to these girls. Godly women are called to be examples to other women. We can't do that if we are being silent.
---ginger on 9/18/10


Proverbs 15:28, 17:27-28, Matthew 7:15, 1Corinthians 3:1-3, Ephesians 4:14, 2Timothy 3:1-9, 4:3-4, Hebrews 5:11-14, James 3, 1Peter 2:2, 2Peter 3:16.
Mary 9/16: Luke 10:39, 1Corinthians 4:6, 14:35, 1Timothy 2:11, 5:13. Deborah: Christianity Blogs, Can Women Be Leaders (Hebrews 11:32-34). In Esther 4:10-13, Hadassah though selfish, did submit to both God and her Uncle. Equality in Christ is not equality in office *1. We must humbly
consider each others best interest, yet recognize subordination in life. God, Christ, Husband, Wife, Children, Servants to Masters *2.
*1 Galatians 3:28, Colossians 3:11, Joel 2:28-28 & Acts 2:17-18.
*2 Ephesians 5:2, Philippians 2:3, Colossians 3:18-22, 1Peter 5:5.
---Glenn on 9/17/10


Mary 9/16, *1. Deborah - Christianity Blogs / Can Women Be Leaders (Hebrews 11:32-34). In Esther 4:10-13, Hadassah though selfish, did submit to both God and her Uncle. Equality in Christ is not equality in office *2. We must humbly consider each others best interest, yet recognize subordination in life. God, Christ, Husband, Wife, Children, Servants to Masters *3. See *4.
*1 Luke 10:39, 1Corinthians 4:6, 14:35, 1Timothy 2:11, 5:13.
*2 Galatians 3:28, Colossians 3:11, Joel 2:28-29 & Acts 2:17-18.
*3 Ephesians 5:2, Philippians 2:3, Colossians 3:18-22, 1Peter 5:5.
*4 Proverbs 15:28, 17:27-28, Matthew 7:15, 1Corinthians 3:1-3, Ephesians 4:14, 2Timothy 3:1-9, 4:3-4, Hebrews 5:11-14, James 3, 1Peter 2:2, 2Peter 3:16.
---Glenn on 9/17/10




The lord says this.
(Titus 2:1 [NET])
But as for you, communicate the behavior that goes with sound teaching.

(Titus 2:2 [NET])
Older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith, in love, and in endurance.

(Titus 2:3 [NET])
Older women likewise are to exhibit behavior fitting for those who are holy, not slandering, not slaves to excessive drinking, but teaching what is good.

(Titus 2:4 [NET])
In this way they will train the younger women to love their husbands, to love their children,

(Titus 2:5 [NET])
to be self-controlled, pure, fulfilling their duties at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the message of God may not be discredited.
---Royal on 9/17/10


Over the years there have been several different women who have made nearly the same comments on this subject. Usually as a child, they have either suffered abuse, or their momma told them their diaper smelt sweet too many times. The first group wants to avoid abuse through controlling their environment, and the second wants eminence. Either way, they are selfish and have a rebellious spirit. They make God over into their own image, an idol. Both types deny at least some scriptures on Christian deportment, and most reject the qualifications for a Bishop. It is not logical to reject a man for being unfaithful, but to overlook a woman's perfidy. And it is difficult to instruct someone who refuse milk, less meat.
---Glenn on 9/17/10


Well if the girls mothers are Christians it should be the mothers setting the example. If not them then maybe someone within the congregation like the Pastors wife or one of the elders wives. Someone showing the girls how to walk in Gods word , & being a woman herself knowing the ups & downs of being a woman.They can help the young ladies direct their lives to Jesus, our brother & king & him being the doorway or mediator to God our father, his father.
---Candice on 9/16/10


Mary,
God has not called you to be a mother or he would have blessed you with children.
It is true that many women are not called to moms.
BUT God has given you a wonderful gift to minister to OTHER women.
As long as you are sumbmitting to your husband, and you place God first in your life and uplift him in your work, I see no reason why you can't be a writer. After all he gave you the gift.
Deborah was a judge and a prophetess. God gave her these callings. She kept God first. She was married, and she submitted to her husband. Do these things and you shall be blessed.
---ginger on 9/16/10


Deborah wasn't the leader, nor the one whom salvation came through. She had her role which is often misinterpreted.
Judges 4:4 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
Judges 5:1 Then sang Deborah and Barak the son of Abinoam on that day, saying,
Judges 5:12 Awake, awake, Deborah: awake, awake, utter a song: arise, Barak, and lead thy captivity captive, thou son of Abinoam.
Hebrews 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] Samson, and [of] Jephthae, [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets:
-God delivered Sisera into the hands of Jael, yet no leadership is claimed there either.
---micha9344 on 9/16/10


Okay, Rhonda, well why doesn't Glenn ever post things like about Deborah the judge and leader, and Queen Esther's courage and Mary who sat in with Jesus and the other men soaking in Jesus? No, all he posts are the ones that, if you don't understand both sexes are equal (different but equal) then it looks like women are nothing! I've certainly never seen him post the one about "submitting to ONE ANOTHER"!
---Mary on 9/16/10


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Mary

you don't like the posts Glenn chose? Glenn is SIMPLY the messenger - providing truth from scripture ...you have applied chavanism to The Father in Heaven NOT Glenn ...your misunderstanding of basic scripture is easily identified when you apply the worldly term of chauvinist to evaluate the ROLES given to men and women by GOD

you're too busy defending your feminist view given to you by the world to SEE the truth in scriptures provided ...True Christians live for Christ ...its not possible to claim one lives for Christ while ignoring dismissing His Word and calling HIM a liar

Christ did not choose women to serve in leadership positions - their ROLES are easily identified in the book of Peter
---Rhonda on 9/15/10


Rhonda, I AM a Christian! I just don't like the way Glenn slants everything he says from a chauvenistic point of view, he never seems to point out the Scriptures where women are valued and important! That's what bothers me about him so much. I do appreciate that he uses Scripture but he picks out only certain ones.
---Mary on 9/15/10


Glenn, if I may be so bold and ask, how do you treat your own wife? I feel sooo sorry for her but I assume you're good to her in your own ways--I would hope.
******

Glenn posts passages from Holy Scripture and you feel sorry for his wife?

it is very difficult for non-christians to understand the ROLES of a man and a women when they embrace and serve the world views of equality rather than SERVING Christ in his Spiritual Church ...by dismissing truth in Gods Holy Word in all area's of their lives it is easy to condemn those who truly follow Christ and examples HE left us being incorrect and "outdated"
---Rhonda on 9/14/10


Glenn, if I may be so bold and ask, how do you treat your own wife? I feel sooo sorry for her but I assume you're good to her in your own ways--I would hope.
---Mary on 9/14/10


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women NEVER have leadership "roles" OVER any man in Spiritual matters

a leader is not a role model

a role model is simply a person who inspires

a leader LEADS

seeing Christ has no women in leadership roles then women should choose to be inspired by women who are spoken about in the book of Peter
---Rhonda on 9/14/10


Your question shows your weakness in scripture. As for me a WOMAN and my household we will all look up to and serve the Lord, David said, he looks to hills from where his help comes from, his help comes from the lord.

Carrying on looking for your role model in women and when you end up in a ditch remeber the role model you should have been looking up to was,Jesus Christ the author and finisher of our faith.
---Carla on 9/14/10


These verses prohibit women ruling: 1Corinthians 11:1-(16), 14:33-38, and 1Timothy 2:8-15. And by making reference to Adam and Eve, Paul applies these verses to all their descendants. If a women respects her own God given role, not desiring to take on a man's role, the Lord bless her, Deuteronomy 22:5.
Larry: A disobedient Christian is a poor role model for anyone, less a girl, Ephesians 4. To be restored by Christ, one would not only need to become a Christian, but to submit to him, John 8:36, Romans 12:2, 2Corinthians 5:15-17, Ephesians 4:21-24.
Mary 9/8 (2nd), 9/10: As a writer > four sentences, seven I, four my, one me.
---Glenn on 9/14/10


There are several honorable people mentioned in the Bible, whose lives offer us an example such as Sarah, who doubted at first, even telling her husband to "go unto" Hagar *1. But later, Sarah was praised for her confidence in Gods' promise, and her obedience to her husband *2. Even some women who had formerly been in darkness *3. Even the humble, Mark 12:42-44. God doesnt want you to look to successful, yet rebellious women *4. Titus 2:3-5 chaste, discreet, good, keepers at home, love their children & husbands (obedient to), sober - "that the word of God be not blasphemed."*1 Genesis 16:2..., 18:12-15. *2 Hebrews 11:11, 1Peter 3:6. *3 Matthew 21:31, Acts 26:18, Hebrews 11:31. *4 Colossians 2:8, James 4:4.
---Glenn on 9/12/10


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Glenn, wow! No, I don't "deride" having children, it's just that I was never meant to be a mother, I respect women that are mothers and in fact used to envy them. You are wrong about me on so many counts but I expected as much.
---Mary on 9/10/10


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Mary: Interesting, trying to deconstruct ruler from leader. Your admiration for a 1Corinthians 14:34-35, 1Timothy 2:11-12, 2Timothy 3:7 rejecting - prideful - scripture twisting - self affirming - eisegete tells us a lot about you. Raising Godly children is a noble profession, but of course you would deride 1Timothy 2:15 and Titus 2:3-5, are there no such women in your church? Doing *a is admirable, but *b is not!
p.s. By cold water, did you mean Gods word, and by heart-warming, did you mean hell fire?
---Glenn on 9/9/10


Joyce Meyer. She is vulnerable and transparent.
Abused by her father and restored by Christ as a powerful witness in his ability to overcome.
---larry on 9/9/10


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Congratulations as you deserve a place on the unofficial and unauthorized best and worst list, for being able to make nearly any blog about you, and in such a treacly sweet manner, Proverbs 11:22, 27:6, 15-16, Ecclesiastes 10:1. ...Only a mention for hypocritically over reacting to any 'perceived' minor insult to women by giving a scouring rebuke *c.
*a 1Corinthians 11:3-10, 13, 15-16, Ephesians 5:22-24, 33, Colossians 3:18, Titus 2:5, 1Peter 3:1-2, 5-6.
*b Genesis 3:6, 39:7-18, Exodus 4:25-26, Numbers 12:1-2, 1Kings 15:13, 21:15, 2Chronicles 24:7, Nehemiah 13:26, Job 2:9, Isaiah 32:9-13, Zechariah 5:5-11, Mark 6:19, 24, Acts 13:50, Revelations 2:20.
*c Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:41-42, Romans 14:4, 10, James 4:11.
---Glenn on 9/9/10


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So, Glenn, if I'm to understand you, can I assume you think that godly and gifted writers (Beth Moore for example) should put away their pens and just stay home barefoot and pregnant?! I'm a writer and that's my gift, my gift at my age (46) is not to have babies with my 54-year-old husband lol
---Mary on 9/8/10


Glenn, this wasn't asking about women "ruling" it was talking about godly leaders of any type to look up to! Thanks for once again throwing cold water on an otherwise heart-warming blog!
---Mary on 9/8/10


No! These verses prohibit women ruling: 1Corinthians 11:1-(16), 14:33-38, and 1Timothy 2:8-15. By making reference to Adam and Eve, Paul applies these verses to all their descendants. Also, Genesis 2:18, 20, 3:16-19 (Eve desires to rule over Adam / 4:7, sin desires to rule over Cain), Numbers 12 (Miriam, not Aaron, gets leprosy), Deuteronomy 22:5, Isaiah 3:12-4:1, 32:9-14, Amos 4:1-4. The ministry titles in Mathew 23:10-11, Acts 20:28, Philippians 1:1, 1Timothy 3:1-10, 12-13, Titus 1:7, etc. are masculine nouns, and the use here forces you to refer only to men in these positions of leadership. It is a noble and honorable job for a woman to raise Godly children, 1Timothy 2:15. Though, for a few illustrious older women, Titus 2:3-5.
---Glenn on 9/8/10


I look up to my mother as a wonderful model for me as she is a pastor's wife and awesome mother. I also think Mrs. Beneth Jones from Bob Jones University is a wonderful model for girls. She has gone through so much in her life and yet uses it for God's glory. I had the blessed privilege of sitting under her while I was in college. keren9537
---Keren on 7/31/07


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There are many strong women leaders in the world some we have seen already and some that have not come to the fore front as of yet most of them are women we see every day but do we take the time to notice them and what it takes for them to walk out there faith in God
---Vernon on 7/26/07


Rebecca St James is a good role model for girls.
---Katie on 7/17/07


Here are a few of my favorites:
Elizabeth Elliot
Ruth Bell Graham
Carolyn Mahaney
Noel Piper
Carolyn McCulley
Nancy Leigh DeMoss
---daphn8897 on 5/16/07


Jesus Christ is all we need. I dare NOT TRUST THE SWEETEST FRIEND, I only lean on Jesus's name. Jesus is my leader and friend. He is my high tower, a very present help in this time. Without pointing women/girls/children to Christ and leading them to money making false preachers why else would these telly evangelist use their own name for profits/gain and not a be a NON-profiable organisation as the New Testement Church was. We will only lead them to untruths.
---Carla5754 on 1/1/07


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I, as a woman, try to be a role model for girls. I try to be that Proverbs 31 Woman.
---Leslie on 12/31/06


Joyce Meyer I enjoy her sermons/books they are to the point and easy to understand.
---judit4846 on 8/19/06


Joyce Meyer!
---Barbara on 8/11/06


Maya Angelou
---rober9463 on 8/11/06


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Beth Moore
Priscilla Evans Shirer
Stormie O'Martian

These women have ministered to me.
---Madison1101 on 8/10/06


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