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Redemption Plan For Satan

Why is there no redemption plan for satan? I believe there is a reason and I heard an excellent revelation last week about this. Why do you think there isn't any for satan?

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God hasn't told us about His redepmtion plan for Satan, or even if one exists.

All He's told us is His redemption plan for human beings.

The traditional explanation is that the angels, with their much-greater-than-human intelligence, could see the eternal consequences of their rebellion, and rebelled anyway.

We human beings cannot see such consequences.
---Jack on 10/7/07


as you know jesus did make a trip to where he spoke to those in chains.this was one appeal to satan from jesus himself.
---earl on 8/22/06


(2)... Phil 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
---Billy on 8/17/06


(1)..Do we think for one minute that when we stand before God that we won't bow our knees to Him and aknoladge that He is Lord, even Satan will be willing to submit to God after it's all over.
---Billy on 8/17/06


(5).. If we didn't have a choice in how God created us, and scripture does say that we were created subject to vanity, not willing, then I believe that God will save all of His creation.
Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of HIM who worketh ALL things after the counsel of his own will:
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of HIM THAT WILLETH, NOR OF HIM THAT RUNNETH, but of God that showeth mercy.
---Billy on 8/17/06




(4).. All of creation is groaning for the sons of God to be manifested. Creation doesn't realize what its groaning for, but deep within all of Gods creation it wants to be delivered from the bondage of this death. And the creature or creation will be delivered from the bondage of corruption. This is Gods word.
---Billy on 8/17/06


(3).. Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
[22] For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
[23] And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
---Billy on 8/17/06


(2).. Rom 8 :18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
[19] For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
[20] For the CREATURE was MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
---Billy on 8/17/06


(1).. Tom, What do we think judgement is, is it just to punish us for what we've done, or wouldn't it also make things right? Does Satan have a choice in being what he is, or did we even have a choice in being what we are. And if this is the case Why wouldn't God save all of His creation, including Satan. The scriptures say that he "Satan" was a lier from the beginning and the truth wasn't in him. God created Satan this way, God did create evil.
---Billy on 8/17/06


It amazes me that everyone is so quick to give their opinions, not even address the question at hand, argue till the cows come home instead of saying, "I would really like to know that revelation, I think it would be interesting to hear what God has to say about this subject." Because maybe the truth of sharing this revelation would set me free. "Let him who has ears, hear what the Spirit is saying." AMEN!
---Donna9759 on 8/17/06




the only salvation mentioned in scripture is ours.the pit is reserved for satan and his demons.remember folks God is bound by his word.He must judge his creation one day,and it is based on spiritual truth.In heaven there are no gray areas,or extenduating circumstances.there is light,and there is dark,right, and wrong.satan has already been judged,and he is fast approaching his sentencing,as is all of Gods creation.
---tom2 on 8/17/06


When I became saved, I wanted everyone to be. I even wondered if God would save the devil if he would repent. If he would renounce his pride and all the evil, would God save him too? I prayed for everyone crossing the street and disabled people in wheel chairs. I prayed for creative miracles of healing and everyone to be saved. I long for those days, my heart was tender. I want that back. But satan made his eternal choice to disobey God. He blew it.
---Rachel on 8/16/06


(5).. If hell is eternal, then that's where he'll be. But the scriptures say that we all will be judged according to our works. Can we do an eternity of sin to deserve eternal doom, I don't think so, and could we include Satan in this sanereo, after all God did create him to be His adversary. If we all, including Satan, will live forever, and hell isn't eternal, then I think God would have a redemption plan for Satan.
---Billy on 8/16/06


(4)..Do we think that Gods sovereign plan doesn't include what Satan does?

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of HIM who worketh ALL things after the counsel of his own will:

Rom 9:16 So then it is not of HIM THAT WILLETH, NOR OF HIM THAT RUNNETH, but of God that showeth mercy.
---Billy on 8/16/06


(3).. Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
---Billy on 8/16/06


(2).. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
---Billy on 8/16/06


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(1)..Do we think that Satan is more powerful than God? Is God running behind Satan trying to catch him by the tail to stop him from doing what he's doing? Or did God not create the perfect adversary to do his His will? Satan can only do what God allows him to do, after all God created him that way.
---Billy on 8/16/06


What kind of nonsense? The devil's destiny in that pit, that's what God's plan is for him and it will come to past. Amen! --Mrs.Morgan.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/16/06


Why is there so much concern for Satan? Do you realize how full of evil,lies, hate, murder, and how much misery he has caused the human race? John 8:44 Revelation 12:9, 20:2,3,10.

I thought it was bad enough when the libs sympathize with terrorists.
---Creamcup on 8/16/06


mi ma, I will email you my notes as soon as I type them up. You will find this fascinating. I don't want to share with everyone because I have seen how folks attack everything you say on these blogs and this is too important of a revelation for people to argue over. Email me at Donna9759 and let me know where I can send a Word Document attachment to you. I haven't even started typing up my notes, so it may be a while before I get it to you. Thank you.
---Donna9759 on 8/16/06


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Maybe there was one but his hard heart was to boastful and proud to accept it. Either way I would be cautious at the risk of feeling anything that resembles sympathy for this being that has destroyed so many lives.
---Linda32708 on 8/15/06


One other thought folks: I ask God alot of questions, that's how I learn things. And guess what? He does answer.

Just the other day I asked Him: Lord, why haven't you spoken anything profound to me lately? The Holy Spirit responded, "Why haven't you asked me?"
James said you have not because you ask not. I am learning to ask more and more.
---Donna9759 on 8/15/06


Jack, you are correct, God hasn't told us, but have you ever asked him?

I want to review my notes so I quote this preacher just the way the Lord told him. It's not my revelation at all, but I was in awe of a Holy God who revealed it to an man of God who ASKED the Lord about it. I will tell you what it is tomorrow. (((huggs))))
---Donna9759 on 8/15/06


Of course I have Heard all the standard reasons why there is no redemption for Satan. I would be very interested in hearing what you found out Donna.
---mima on 8/14/06


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Jack
I enjoyed the insight and wisdom. May I add just one thing I have learned from my experience with the Father and Son. Our salvation is a completely unmerited undeserved gift from God we don't deserve it and we really find it hard to try and work out any comparisons or explainations why fallen angels are not offered the same. So in the end His wisdom and love and mercy are offered to us and we can accept and receive that from Him and live with Him forever - this offer is big really really big.
---robert on 8/14/06


CS Lewis included a well thought out and Biblical explaination about who Satan is and why he exists - check it out in his Mere Christianity tapes. oh by the way these are recordings of his radio broadcasts to his fellow British citizens during the worst of the bombings of Britian by the Nazi's and people were struggling to understand the inhumanity and evil of the hour - he helps explain it in eternal and cosmic proportions.
---robert on 8/14/06


Because he is an angel. Jesus came to redeem the lost. Satan fell, but there is no redemptive plan for him. Even if there was he wouldn't take it.
---Rickey on 8/14/06


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