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Responsible For Our Actions

Do you think that we are responsible for our actions after Salvation? Do you think that God's Grace covers disobedience, and does His Grace cover unrepentant sins? What is your opinion on (Hebrews 10:26,27) in regard to sin?

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We are called to persevere with Faith truth Justice and HOPE and encourage and provoke one another to good deeds.Faith is the assurance of things hoped for and the conviction of things not seen.We have to trust in His word.Not presume we are saved by our belief and self righteousness.
---Emcee on 5/2/08


I have read enough, it is serious stuff. He that despises Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses. The scripture is talking about worshiping other gods. One of the Ten Commandments. And it still holds the gospel today. Deuteronomy 17:2>>>"If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God>>>You in trouble.
---catherine on 5/1/08


Salvation is ASSURED only after death,judgement and acceptance into Heaven prior to this happening it is conjecture or Presumption.Because any action can only be accountable for while alive .What actions can you commit when dead.Re disobedience to God read Genesis about A & E.its self explainatory.
---Emcee on 5/1/08


Salvation is ASSURED only after death,judgement and acceptance into Heaven prior to this happening it is conjecture or Presumption.Because any action can only be accountable for while alive .What actions can you commit when dead.Re disobedience to God read Genesis about A & E.its self explainatory.
---Emcee on 5/1/08


Salvation is ASSURED only after death,judgement and acceptance into Heaven prior to this happening it is conjecture or Presumption.Because any action can only be accountable for while alive .What actions can you commit when dead.Re disobedience to God read Genesis about A & E.its self explainatory.
---Emcee on 5/1/08




Perhaps the answer to this question can be found in Romans 4:7-8 which says, "Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered."
"Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin."
Perhaps Hebrews 10:26-27 refers to those who have received the knowledge(the good news of Jesus Christ dying for our sins) and have refused to accept that knowledge and therefore remain lost and thus dream of hellfires to come.
---mima on 4/30/08


I've always thought that it meant that there was no greater sacrifice that could be offered - if Jesus' sacrifice would not do it there is not another one to come. So recieve it and continue to walk in it.

I've heard people say "but you don't know what I've done" like it was to bad for Jesus to forgive - and they really refused His redemption - so for those there is no greater a sacrifice to be made.
---Andrea on 8/19/07


(Luke 12:42-56)(John 15:4-10)(John 17:17)(Acts 5:29)(2 Timothy 4:2-4)

(Psalm 40:4),

"Blessed is that man that maketh the Lord his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to LIES."

(Psalm 37:37-40)(Psalm 66:18)(Psalm 78:40-42)(James 1:12-16,22)(James 4:6-7)(1 Peter 4:17-18)(Hebrews 10:26-27)(Revelation 14:12)(Revelation 19:13)(Revelation 21:7-8,27)(Revelation 22:7). God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/19/07


God's Grace is highly misunderstood in the Christian world. God's Grace does not exempt us from being responsible for our actions. God doesn't say anywhere that we can just live any way we want, and still be saved. God will help us to live right, if we truly want to please Him, walk in the Spirit and follow His commandments. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/19/07


Mrs Morgan - Your problem is that you want everyone to agree with you, regardless of whether what you say is right or wrong. A few of us have tried correcting you, but you do not listen.
---Helen_5378 on 9/1/06




(3.) Lisa, Abide in His Truth, don't let go of God's Truth, be stubborn even, this is good. The Holy Spirit will help you with the spots wrinkles and blemishes if there are any while you Yield to Him, humbling yourself daily. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/1/06


(2.) Lisa, just like I told Karen, when you repent and Accept Jesus in you heart , please stop calling yourself a sinner, this is not Biblical. God saves us from sin, so how would the word sinner come into play? That should be past tense okay? You don't have to feel guilty for saying you are born again, no longer a sinner, a matter of fact you are giving God the glory by doing this! God gets no glory from saints that want to hold on their old title of sinner.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/1/06


Lisa, We repent, and believe that Jesus died for us on the cross, and that His shed Divine Blood, washes away all of our sins, we accept Him in our heart, and Abide by His commandments. If we fail and Sin, get back up and repent, The Divine Blood will only cleanse if a person honestly repents. It's really that simple , do you believe this? --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/1/06


Terry, Like I told Helen, did you read my whole post? --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


Mrs Morgan - Not one single thing that you are saying makes any sense whatsoever. So I reject it outright. You come across as if you know what you are saying, but it is not Biblical. I do not mind at all if you do not reply to me. Most people here are humble.
---Helen_5378 on 8/31/06


Helen_5378, I didn't say that I'm finished learning, no, if you would like, you can re-read my post ... "I had to learn, all of God's True People had to learn, and they are continuing to learn in the right spirit". --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


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Pseudo-Love and Pseudo-Christianity is an abomination to God. True godly Love warns folks that need to be warned, period, I'm glad that I was warned when I needed to be, praise God for that! --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


Mrs. Morgan, sounds like you need to back up a notch. As long as we are on this earth, we will not "get to that point". Our spiritual walk is a continual growth and learning process. Anyone who thinks otherwise is sorely misguided and deceived.
---Terry on 8/31/06


Helen 5378 if you continue with your talk in regard to the Divine Blood of Jesus, I will no longer reply to you either or anyone that is resisting the Holy Ghost. That's not Judging , that's called godly wisdom, can Two walk together unless they are agreed? Sinner's reasoning makes more sense than most of the Christian's reasoning on this blog, because at least many of them know they are lost/in the dark. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


Helen_5378 , Judging? Not I, I refuse to go in circles with those who keep resisting the Holy Ghost, Period. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


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Mrs Morgan - You have no right to judge Lisa. We are all supposed to submit to each other. If you think you have learned it all you are very wrong... none of us will stop learning while we are down here in our tents.
---Helen_5378 on 8/31/06


lisa, You can go on as much as you like, but I refuse to reply to a person that isn't in the right Spirit, who doesn't want to learn. I had to learn, all of God's True People had to learn, and they are continuing to learn in the right spirit. I will reply to you only when you get to that place first. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


2. This way we can all know that what you say is from God or not. You have the mind of God as Eloy does, and Exzuruch, between you three you should have all the answers since all three of you are sinless. Eloy, most of all since he is the light. As the light and with your help, together should explain to us sinners how you were born again. This way we can teach others the how they can regenerate themselves, and become sinless. Please give Scriptures so we can follow.
---lisa on 8/30/06


You have not answered my questions Morgan. If you are who you say you are you should be able answer the questions I posted for you. Since you seem to be walking in the spirit all the time and seem to want to correct all of us, you should be able to answer some simple questions about your salvation. You keep saying you answered many and you have not answered one. As kind as you are in condemning others you should be able to explain how you were born again.
---lisa on 8/30/06


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lee_1, It's your words/reasoning that show you are thinking/reasoning in the flesh. We must Examine ourselves to see if we are in the Faith, and we can't do that if we are holding on the the flesh. --Mrs. Morgan.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/30/06


Thank you Debbie, and I agree with your well placed directive. "We are responsible for all of our actions. God's grace gives us freedom to serve and worship Him. It does not give us freedom to be unresponsible, disobedient and unrepentive." Deb quote.

This idea concerns me. Freedom from responsible or even helpful action. Freedom from the consequence of irresponsible action, ill mammers, ill behavior, etc. It's like faith with a flaw. Be stubborn and unrepentent, sin is obselete.
---jhonny on 8/29/06


(2) God already knows what happened to men when they took matters upon their hands, they failed. Your teachings sound good, but they placed the trust and hope in men and not God. You think you are doing a service for Christ but you are doing a diservice by telling others how they can earn heaven. Grace is not something that needs a persons help. Its all on the merits of Christ on the Cross.
---lee_1 on 8/29/06


Morgan, I don't see how you can know I am acting and thinking in the flesh. I don't know how you can make a judgement like that. Only someone that knows my heart knows that and you cannot see my heart. I think you give yourself too much credit for everything, and in the process you forget that it is God who works through us. You kind of like that because people will think you are very spiritual but in the process of your speaches, you place the position of a Christian in his own hands,
---lee_1 on 8/29/06


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lee,(2.) I really hope that you too will one day will stop thinking,acting and reasoning in the Flesh, so that you can receive the answers/Truth that you simply can't hear, because you are reasoning in the flesh, thus you are not able to receive the Truth, which is 100% Spiritual, Lee. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/27/06


lee, (1.) Just like I told someone else, I will tell you also: For a person to Receive the Truth/Answers, they have to have ears to hear, and only God can Reveal this to them. I have Answered your Questions,and the Questions of others, but still you are not Receiving the answers, which is God's Truth....
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/27/06


Morgan, you continue to refuse to answers questions put to you. You don't answer because you cannot answer. You are deceiving people and really pulling them away from "faith in Christ" to faith in their efforts. Very false doctrine.
---lee_1 on 8/27/06


We are responsible for all of our actions. God's grace gives us freedom to serve and worship Him. It does not give us freedom to be unresponsible, disobedient and unrepentive. Once we are saved, we are never lost again; but if we are unrepentive we have broken fellowship with the Father. God can not fellowship sin. It is our responsibility to recognize our sin, judge it, and ask forgiveness for that sin. Jesus stands ready and willing to intercede on our behalf when we come to Him and ask forgiveness.
---Debbie on 8/27/06


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tom2 , You are very welcome Tom. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/26/06


mrs morgan, I thank you for your post ,but I know what the great white throne judgement is,and walking in spiritual truth. my posts were to get the attention of apparently posters who ask question about a false teaching or concept that they have about Gods word.WE are responsible , and will be judged all of us.some to eternal life and some to death . and all whos name were not found in the lambs book of life were cast into the lake of fire.
---tom2 on 8/26/06


Unrepentant: Yep, we can get comfortable in our blindness and ignorance. Why repent when everything feels so good. I wonder if ignorance would affect comprehension? God is the truth. Do we understand him more if we are repentent or unrepentent? Maybe with the "right" definition of grace we could just forget about it.
---jhonny on 8/26/06


Jack , the Truth is not a JOKE, people die and go to hell Without It. I don't get that joke, Jack, it is NOT Amusing. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/26/06


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tom2, (3.)....but you see Tom, they are not Walking that road by their Own Power, NO, but by the Power of God,they Draw on God, they Abide in God's Word, They hide God's Word in their hearts, and if they fail God , they honestly REPENT, and get back on that HOLY WALK with the Lord,because they KNOW that God CAN'T STRIVE WITH SIN. So you won't find them with "UNREPENTENT Sin" in their lives, because they Walk in the Spirit, and not in the Flesh.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/26/06


tom2, (2.)God's Redeemed will only Face the Judgment of REWARDS, isn't that great! God will Reward His people according to their Good Works, and there will be NO LOSERS, only Winner's. God's True People have been Saved and Forgiven from their sins, and they are walking that Narrow HOLY Road that Jesus talked about,
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/26/06


tom2 , (1.)Judgment Day, also called the Great White Throne Judgment is for SINNER'S ONLY. It takes place AFTER the 1,000 year Reign of Christ, which occurs AFTER the 7-year Great Tribulation Period that ends with the Battle of Armageddon.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/26/06


2. Who saved you Morgan? Where did you get the faith to believe Morgan? Who changed your heart Morgan? You teach that man can be good enough by using his own power to change himself, give himself the faith to believe, and change his own heart. And in the process he can give it away if he wants whenever he wants to just go back to been who he was before, and then come back again if he wants. Have eternal life an few times too really. Collect a few more inheritance.
---lisa on 8/26/06


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You asked the question, are we responsible for out actions? yes you are Morgan. You are responsible for teaching a false doctrine of men. your actions only take people on another path and it is not to, Justification by faith in Christ alone. Nothing you say are do has anything to do with your salvation. It is all of God.
---lisa on 8/26/06


II. Each day she puts ten to twenty comments and fills the whole system up and doesn't give anyone a chance to answer her, at least one comment, and when someone does, she will not answer the comment and put another twenty comments over what you ask, in order for your part to get lost. She is smart but doing it for the wrong reasons. Pray for her.
---karen on 8/26/06


The wrath of God occurs for idolatry. Col3: Idolatry is committed with anything you can think of. Your churh, your priest, your family. Any kind of covetousness or lust to climb the ladder or be a big shot on the boulevard is idloatry.
---jhonny on 8/26/06


** Mrs. Morgan, you are on to something. Your quote: "The Truth can not be fully comprehended by a UNREPENTENT Sinner."**

Are you saying that mere humans can fully comprehend truth ever?

As the old joke says, "If I knew the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, I would BE God!"
---Jack on 8/26/06


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on judgement day it,s gonna be God and you, thats pretty much a personable resposibility senario if you ask me.
---tom2 on 8/26/06


jhonny , I am glad that you are understanding, I am not impressed by man's logic, and the "natural man" kind of thinking. I am only Impressed by The Pure unadulterated Word of God, the TRUTH. If we Really want the Truth, God WILL REVEAL It to us. I LET the Holy Spirit reason with me so that I dont walk in confusion, and lead others down that awful path. The Word of God is wonderful, and we need the Holy Spirit to REVEAL the Fullness of It.--Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


Mrs. Morgan, you are on to something. Your quote: "The Truth can not be fully comprehended by a UNREPENTENT Sinner." God is revealing that distorted issues which on the surface appear to be highly intellectual and religious are symtomatic of unrepentant sin. It is hanging on to IDOLATRY. "..stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. .."
Col3: "..and covetousness, which is IDOLATRY:
6 For which things sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
---jhonny on 8/25/06


II. ...Abiding in God's Truth is called Walking in the Spirit. Those who claim that a person CAN NOT Backslide, are talking False Doctrine, and don't know what it means to WALK IN THE SPIRIT, They must RECEIVE All of God's Truth, and then they can SEE CLEARLY, and help Others. --Mrs. Morgan.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


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I. A Person that has Experienced True Savation meaning that at some time they were Drawn On By the Holy Ghost, and they Truly Received Salvation through Jesus Christ ,CAN STILL BACKSLIDE, because of sin and disobedience, we are to RESIST TEMPTATION,God will help us to do this,if we will Yield to Him. This is Biblical, and Sound Doctrine. God expects us to CONTINUE, and ABIDE in His Truth, or we are NOT with Him.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(10.)Those who REALLY want the Truth, will RECEIVE IT, God knows our heart, and intentions. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(9.)...This has ALWAYS been the case Regarding people Receiving the Knowledge of the Truth verses people who have NOT Received the Knowledge of God's Truth, the Truth must First be Revealed to us, By God or It can't be RECEIVED.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(8.)When Jesus came to this earth 2000 yrs. ago ,Why did only A FEW Accept Him as the Messiah,and MANY didn't? The signs were there,prophecies,miracles,etc. but Why did those FEW KNOW that He was the Only Begotton Son of God, and the Others DIDN'T? The Answer is Regarding those FEW that knew who Jesus was: Is that GOD REVEALED THIS to them.They couldn't of Known that Jesus was the Messiah, ON THEIR OWN, it had to be REVEALED to them from GOD HIMSELF.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


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(7.)The Truth is the most Precious Gift Ever! But it is a GIFT, and God must Give It to us First, and some don't wan't this Precious Gift, so God will NOT Reveal It to them/Give It to them.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(6.)...Sinner's and Christians are suppose to be DIFFERENT, but nowadays in the Christian World that just isn't the case, many so-called Christian's are just GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS, and wasn't even DRAWN by the Holy Ghost in the First Place, therefore they didn't really get saved. *Being Truly Drawn by the Holy Ghost is the First Essential Step to Salvation.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


...But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Willful Sin, is not a common term used for SINNER'S because they are Sinner's!, Christian's are not suppose to be slaves to sin, so this term WILLFUL SIN, would be meant for Christian's.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(4.)... Receiving Knowledge of the Truth is NOT a do-it-youself Job!The Truth is Spiritual, and not of this World, and can only be REVEALED to man by God Himself from Above. Tofurabby, : Hebrews 10:26,27 : For if we sin wilfully after that we have RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


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(3.)...People that have RECEIVED the Truth,Can only Be the one's who the Holy Ghost Revealed It to, I can't stress this enough. Those who have TRULY R-E-C-E-I-V-E-D KNOWLEDGE of the Truth (note the Word RECEIVED) are NOT IN DARKNESS, but those who just hear, and DON'T RECEIVE, REMAIN IN DARKNESS.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(2.)The Word states that the Spiritual things of God, is FOOLISHNESS to the Natural Thinking Man. But on the other hand those who have First been Truly Drawn by the Holy Ghost, and have Experienced True Salvation, note the word TRUE Salvation(some so-called Christians were NEVER Really Saved), HAVE Truly Received Knowledge of the Truth, because the Holy Ghost REVEALED It to them. *HEARING the Truth and RECEIVING KNOWLEDGE of the Truth are 2 different things.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


(1.)Paul was talking The Christian's , saved people. Sinner's might HEAR The Truth , but they haven't RECEIVED the Truth, Receiving Knowledge of the Truth is IMPOSSIBLE for those who Are NOT Drawn by the Holy Ghost, because it is the HOLY GHOST THAT REVEALS GOD'S TRUTH to a person. We could not Receive The Truth or Have FULL Knowledge of the Truth , unless the Holy Ghost Himself REVEALS It to us. The Truth can not be fully comprehended by a UNREPENTENT Sinner.
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/25/06


Consequently, vs. 26 (if we sin willingly after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no sacrifice for sins)is saying that the old sacrificial system will work no longer! The only effective sacrifice NOW is that of Jesus. And any Christian, willfully sinning (not a sin of ignorance, or error, but a deliberate sinning against the Spirit)also rejects the once-for-all sacrifice of the Savior. The consequences either way are "..judgement and fiery indignation.."
---Donna2277 on 8/25/06


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The epistle to the Hebrews was written specifically for Hebrew Christians. The NT reports how these believers, from the beginning of the church, wavered between the familiar Old Covenant laws and customs vs. and the New Covenant and dependence on the one time sacrifice by Jesus as Savior.
The writer of Hebrews emphasizes the superiority if Christ's priesthood and sacrifice over the old sacrificial system.
---Donna2277 on 8/25/06


jhonny, Your are welcome, I'm just glad that I was served kindness by others when I found God's Truth. TRUE Kindness is couped with serving God's Uncompromised Truth to the people, no matter who it offends. God Bless. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/24/06


Mrs. Morgan thank you for your kindness and love of God.
---jhonny on 8/24/06


Cont...What ever one believes to be true is for that one truth and will be their guide. And I would never argue that truth. The only responsibility the Father has given me is to yield and submit to Him. And even that I can not take credit for, for without His influence and empowerment I would be unable to do so. As a matter of fact I know I can not take my next breath without Him. I am no ones teacher and profess to know nothing among you except Christ and Him crucified.
---josef on 8/24/06


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Hello Shira
I apologize if I offended you with my post, no offense was intended. If you notice in all of my post I apply only personal pronouns "I", "me", etc. The reason I do that is because I do not advocate anyones conformity to my way of thinking or the truth given me to embraced. I simply share thoughts and insights base on my personal relationship with the Father. If they are helpful to anyone great, If not, no harm done. Cont....
---josef on 8/24/06


JHONNY , You are so welcomed brother! I believe in letting the Holy Ghost reason with our minds, God is Spiritual and we must let Him reason with us, not with fleshly man reasoning , but with His perfect Spiritual reasoning from above, It just isn't of this world, God's Spiritual reasoning that is. God Bless You. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/23/06


Mrs. Morgan I thank you so much for sharing your heartfelt insights. You put it well, "they want to be all weak". Who's in that business? "..O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" The weakness GAME is largely a wasting away through cravings and desire. Obesity is soft addiciton, soft sold as substance abuse. Hard or soft addictions usually bear the same fruit described in a few words. Lose, lose , lose, lose lose.
---JHONNY on 8/23/06


jhonny , Hello! It really surprises me that some have other things in their life that they just refuse to give into refuse to succomb to like obesity, bad grades in school,losing in sports events,etc. they are stedfast and have a singleness of mind, very diligent, but for some when it comes to resisting temptation they want to be all weak, I just don't get it, why not lean on God and receive strenght and overcoming power from Him daily, He promises that! --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/22/06


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Serve, yield and obey, whether obedience to death or righteousness. The idea is to take an honest inventory of your slave plan and overcome.
Overcome in the bible carries the idea to hold fast, to win, to maintain, to come off victorious, to prevail and conquer. Whatever it is you need to do. Do it! "Yield" is a verb: to stand ready to show and present. What do you stand by with your obedience?
---jhonny on 8/22/06


1- yes; 2- no; 3- no; 4- "Be not deceived, God is not mocked: for whatever a man sows, that will he also reap. Know you all not, that to whom you all yield yourselves servants to obey, his slaves you all are to whom you all obey; whether of sin onto death, or of obedience onto righteousness?" Galatians 6:7; Romans 6:16.
---Eloy on 8/22/06


We have a responsibility to show the love of God by NOT shutting up our bowels of compassion to a brother in need, as they come into our life. How do we respond?
We send our money to some rich guy in another country to take that responsibility from us. Let him do it for me, I'm too busy.

1Jo3:17, "But whoso hath this worlds good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?"
---jhonny on 8/21/06


Yes. Once we get saved we are responsible for everything that comes out of mouth and everything we do, good or bad. We are responsible for our own actions, not God. In order to be forgiven we need to ask for forgiveness. Unrepented sins, we are told to ask God to search our heart to see if there be anything hidden. and we are told to ask God to forgive us "just in case we sin and not realize it".
---Rebecca_D on 8/21/06


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Father God forgave King David for his sins, but he allowed him to suffer the consequences of his sins.
Grace is a disgrace in the Body of Christ. Today it is abused by some, not all, but some.
His Grace does cover sin, "love covers a multitude of sins" but we still suffer the consequences of our sins after salvation.
Plus, only if we "Confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
---Donna9759 on 8/21/06


Rom. 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Grace abounds for all believers, but we must take responsibility for our own actions, repent and ask forgiveness. Sin separates or breaks fellowship with God, repentance and forgiveness restores fellowship. Salvation does not clean us up so we can go and get dirty again, instead it cleans us up and provides a means to stay clean.
---Debbie on 8/21/06


Josef, I can't believe you are saying God is responsible for what you do. The scripture you quoted concerns salvation. God did it all for me when I got saved. NOW, I must willfully walk in the way He has given me. I have the will to live as a christian.(I have a whole heap of want to), but we all sin at one time or another because we have this old sin body.
---shira on 8/21/06


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