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Femenist Movement In America

The femenist movement in America teaches that there needs to be equality between the sexes. Does this teaching run concurrent with biblical teaching?

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Equality is not all it teaches. I would not waste my time with it. Place it in the garbage.
---Robyn on 8/4/07


I AM I - thank you, I find it encouraging that a man is willing to take on this subject. My thought is that women (under the current views) should not have to be disruptive to be allowed to express the gifts God has given us, for the church.
No Gk/Jew male or female no favortism by God - these thoughts do not suffice. The many churches founded by female Apostle's. Many great churches ordain women.
It should be enough that the heart of God is to free the slaves not just to treat them well.
---Andrea on 8/4/07


I suggest that the heart of God is to have women be equal with men bc God is a just God. The OT had women judges yet God allowed for the needs of society and the times that called for women to be subservient. There are many societies today that may not accept the gospel if women had to be treated equally (this is true for men and women). This is not necessary in our modern society. (look at God allowing divorce bc of the hardness of man's heart)
---Andrea on 8/4/07


con't ...As a Christian my main concern is a person's salvation, women's rights are secondary as would a slaves freedom be - I am opposed to slavery as well as the subservience of women.
It grieves me that the body of Christ does not utelize all the resources that God has given it.
I note too...out of the heart the mouth speaks...the legalistic attitude of those who need women to be subservient is apparent.
---Andrea on 8/4/07


cnt...The term userping authority actually was in regards to temple prostitutes using their feminine wiles(sexually provocative) to exert influence this incensed Paul - as well it should. Misbehavior in the church is a serious issue and Paul wanted it addressed, but this same Paul never said women should not start churches - this would be very difficult if they were not allowed to speak.
---Andrea on 8/4/07




7/ Ryan, since we are talking about our wives, I showed mine your post as well as those from some of the other men on the site. I showed her my responses too. At least you are seeking answers! Will you show your wife your post and my responses? Here is something I use to guide my marriage. I am sure you and others have heard it before, except I change the ending: (1) Do not walk behind me; I may not lead. (2) Do not walk ahead of me; I may not follow. (3) Just walk beside me and be my wife.
---I_AM_I on 8/4/07


Give feminism da boot.

rachel
---Reiter on 11/13/06


1/ Leon, thank you for your suggestion to post a blog on the treatment of women in Scriptures. When I got on the Feminist blog several males and females were discussing a womans role based on Scriptures. I love the subject, and I have been trying to engage Helen in a discussion on the topic. I merely joined the discussion, rather than instigate it myself. However, your idea is an excellent one. My hands are filled now under the trinity blog. There are some deep thinking people there.
---I_AM_I on 10/20/06


2/ Leon, I say thinking people because I have no idea if they are spiritual, just like they have no idea if I am spiritual. Spirituality is a body, mind and soul interconnection we live from the heart. Plus, other than the trinity and women in Scriptures, there are two very BIG and controversial topics in Scriptures I want to go to next. I may start a blog on both of those topics. If you start a blog on the contradictory treatment of women in Scriptures, I will join you.
---I_AM_I on 10/20/06


3/ Leon, you can combine the subject of women with Eves so-called downfall of man. The blog is a great idea. It would certainly generate traffic and people will express their beliefs based on Scriptures and otherwise. Please start the blog and let me know so I can join you. You can always find me under the trinity blog. I will be there for a long time. Again, thanks for a great suggestion.
---I_AM_I on 10/20/06




i_am_i: You may want to post a new blog asking for blogger views on the treatment of women in Scripture. Also, your question about Eve being the downfall of man may yet be another new blog for you to post. Other than to specifically say "SIN", I personally don't get the direct relationship of the aforementioned questions with the feminist movement in America. Thanks.
---Leon on 10/19/06


Leon, thanks for the suggestion but I am not interested in a blog about me. You are correct that this blog is about the Feminist Movement. I did tell the ladies that I did not want to get away from our discussion on the awful treatment of women in Scriptures. If any ladies are still out there, I apologize for getting us off our message, which is VERY IMPORTANT. Leon, perhaps you can get us back on track by letting us know your view on the treatment of women in Scripture. Is Eve the downfall of man?
---I_AM_I on 10/17/06


Exactly Anonymous! Also, reference Proverbs 16:18.
---Leon on 10/17/06


Remember Lucifer's fall in Isaiah 14. I will ascend, I will exalt, I will also sit, I will be like the most High. It was Always about the I. Exalting his throne above God. Pride, self-seeking, needing to be the center of attention. Babylon. Abominable branch. "Marshes of muddy water; I will sweep it with the broom of destruction," says the Lord of hosts. Isaiah 14:23
---Anonymous on 10/17/06


i_am_i: As a suggestion, why don't "you" start a i_am_i blog since everything "you" say is centered around (all about) "you" ?

This particular blog originally was about The Feminist Movement in America before "you" made it your personal platform for spewing foolishness.
---Leon on 10/17/06


1/ John T., thanks for the question. The mod and others know who have been throwing sand. I have never addressed anyone on this site in my first post and got rude with that person. Generally, I wait until after several posts before I reply. John you called me a BOZO and I looked past that and had a good discussion with you on the date canon was established. I have even complimented you on your knowledge on Christian history. I will dialogue with anyone on the origin of humankind, including Leon.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


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2/ John, thanks also for the information under the trinity blog. Obviously, I am one of the newbies you mentioned. I was cracking up after reading your last post on Eloy's history on this site.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


#1 Billy,
Please re-read your 1st post to me, my response and your last post. We are in AGREEMENT on the major issues: we are gods; we have The Christ within us; Jesus and the Father are ONE; the Father is greater than Jesus, etc. Billy, you said we cannot teach Jesus, and I said we can teach Jesus IF (note that I had the word if in caps) Jesus can teach the Father. You had two choices. I agree with the one you chose FOR NOW: we cannot teach Jesus because Jesus cannot teach his Father.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


#2 Billy,
How did Jesus learn to raise people who were so-called dead (i.e., transformed)? The Bible tells us that Jesus learnt this from watching the Father raise people who were transformed (i.e., dead)! Yes, the Father teaches the son, and when the son himself becomes a father, he teaches his son. Put otherwise, the teacher teaches the student, and when the student himself becomes a teacher, he teaches other students. This father-son or teacher-student relationship goes on and on.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


#3 Billy, after you see where we agree on many issues, we can continue to explore what you mean by us being sinners from birth and Jesus being the only begotten from God. After we agree on what we agree on, beware some people on this site will call you a heretic, like Emcee called me and I am proud to be.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


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#4 Billy, after our heresy (enlightenment is a better word) is out and we finish the remainder of our discussion, I will get to the DEEPER meaning inherent in whether Jesus, The Father and us can all each other. It has something to do with the name I am using on this site: I AM I. Part of the name comes from the Bible, as you know. Please look at my ocean example again. It will clearly show that Jesus is not the Father or God. I will address this soon under the trinity blog. Please join me!
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


1/ Ryan and Billy, my original message to both of you on the serpent and Eve is on one of our computers. However, I cannot find it. Nonetheless, here is what I said, as I remember it: The serpent was not lying to Eve because the Lord God proved that he was telling the truth: THEN THE LORD GOD SAID: See! The man has become like one of us, knowing what is good and what is bad! Gen 3:22. Billy, this was the context of the question I posed to Eloy.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


2/ Ryan and Billy, I did not contextualize my question on Eve and the serpent. Therefore, YOU ARE BOTH CORRECT that the serpent lied to Eve when she was told that she would not die upon eating the fruit.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


3/ Ryan and Billy, after I am finished here and with my discussion on the trinity (Trinity blog) and I engage Eloy on a major biblical theme that HE CLAIMED WAS NOT EVIL, I will return to whether the serpent really lied to Eve, and by extension Adam, when sge was told that she would not DIE. We will discuss what the Bible means by DIE, death, and dead. At that time, I will ask Tofurabby to join us, because he said on 10/11/06 under the trinity blog that Christ appeared in the garden with Adam.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


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Leon, I want The Truth to keep setting me free. I know you are not my enemy, because I have no enemy. I know you mean me no harm, because you cannot harm my soul and mind. Since you claim I speak nothing of consequence, why won't you answer my questions on Satan, the devil and hell. This is the third time I am asking you this. Let us go explore whether I can say anything of consequence on these. Since you use to be, as you claimed, then our discussion should be a walk in the park for you.
---I_AM_I on 10/16/06


Did your parents ever tell you it is not NICE to throw sand at others playing in the sandbox?

Mods and others get upset when someone does not play nice here. So if you can't play nice, don't play.
---JohnT on 10/16/06


i_am_i: It's quit obvious you're rattled by the truth whether you admit or not...no contradictions. On the other hand, when I consider the source, I'm not moved one least bit by your pitiful shouting, ranting & self-destructive ravings. You talk real loud; but, say nothing of consequence.

You say you know God exists. I pray you will come to know personally the One & only existing God . The Truth really will set you free! I'm not your enemy & mean you no harm. I use to be you! :-)
---Leon on 10/16/06


Billy and Ryan, I have those messages that were lost on the site. I will re-post them tomorrow, because I do not want to overload the blog, especially since I just posted my response to Leon. I hope some of those ladies are still out there, so that we can continue with the treatment of women in the Bible.
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


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6/ Leon, the Bible tells you to love God with your heart, soul and MIND. God gave you a mind. Put it to good use for once in your life and come rattle my foundation!!!!!!!! Leon, God loves you and so do I. God is waiting for you to step into the Light and affirm your divinity. Do you understand that? I noticed you did not define Satan, the devil and hell. Why not? Leon, thanks for your help and come help me some more, even with the insults!
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


3/ Leon, if you juice an orange, you will get orange juice all the time. Someone who is nasty, will give you nastiness all the time, until he or she discovers the LOVING GOD within (simile)!!!!! Leon, your first message to me was nasty, what does that say about Leon? HAVE YOU DISCOVERED THE GOD WITHIN, as the Bible clearly wants us to do?
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


5/ Leon, despite being called a BOZO, I still dialogued with the person. If you and others are calling me names, I KNOW my questions and comments are shaking your foundation. I have dialogued with Christians, Muslims, Hindus and people of the Jewish religion, etc., with solid foundations in their faith and there were no insults. Some have rattled me and I have rattled some. Unlike you, they use their reasoning skills (brain-mind).
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


2/ Leon, my whole life I have welcomed ANY ONE who wants to question me on what I KNOW or THINK THAT I KNOW. I have never tried to scare them about the devil and hell, which is all you know. Moreover, I have never gotten nasty with them, unless they initiated the nastiness. I have stated that on this site at the outset. I have made it clear that I will respond to each post to me with a similar tone. Leon, I have learnt early in life that if a person is nasty, that is what is inside the person.
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


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4/ Leon, you contradicted yourself in your very short post. You claimed you do not want to insult me and then you hide behind Christ and the Bible with your insult. There is nothing you can say that can rattle me. Obviously, my messages are having an effect on you. Guess what? I intend to rattle every atom of your being! Please show me who I insulted FIRST. You are not the only person who starts out his FIRST post by insulting me. I have been called a BOZO in someone else's first post.
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


Leon, one last thing and consider this #7. I am too seasoned to fall for your freshmen trick: if you cannot defeat the message, then kill the messenger. Leon, we all know the trick, since some of us have previously used it. Nice try, but you will not sidetrack me from my purpose, which is to find the answer to some of those timeless questions: for examples, WHO AM I? WHERE AM I FROM? People on this site seem to know the answers to these questions, and I intend to question them! What's wrong with that?
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


1/ Leon, oh, I can take it. I just hope my response gets posted. I took it from Emcee for a long time and finally returned the favor. That post and a few others were lost in the system. Rest assured that I know my messages are rattling your nerves. You have never really questioned your faith. I have questioned over and over what I KNOW or THINK THAT I KNOW. I have stated that I KNOW GOD EXISTS and, therefore, I do not need to BELIEVE IN GOD. There is a BIG, BIG, BIG difference.
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06


i_am_i: "You are" very welcome. I'm just trying to help. I don't expect to convert you. Only God can do that, with your willing participation. I really do hope you'll seek His will & plan for your life.

I don't mean to insult you; but, my Lord & Savior Jesus Christ often dealt quit frankly with smug, stiff-necked (self-righteous/ centered) people like you. Just like those truth resistant rebels in the Bible, you can readily dish out wholesale insults; but, you can't take it. Howbeit?!
---Leon on 10/15/06


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Billy and Ryan, I will re-post tomorrow my messages to your last posts. The messages did not take the last time. I am looking forward to this discussion on the terrible treatment of women in the Bible. I previously asked Helen to join us but she is missing in action. Also, Christina has stated her position to me on the male--female treatment in the Bible. I agree with her, although I wished she had said it here. Nonetheless, we will continue tomorrow.
---I_AM_I on 10/14/06


Leon, thank you for your response. I take all the diatribes too. I usually turn my two cheeks and those I borrow from others before I respond. Leon, with nice Christian diatribe like yours, how do you expect to convert others to Christianity or YOUR interpretation of Jesus' teachings? Leon, in your insults you used the words devil, hell and sin. Those are some deep words. Now come define them for me. Who is the devil? Where is hell? And what is sin? Don't clam up now Leon!
---I_AM_I on 10/14/06


Anonymous, when I said that i would search all avenues to know the truth, I didnt mean I would be trying to fuse togather all types of religions to come up with some concocked mess and call it truth. If some one wants to find the truth, I have found that we cant rely on our English translations to be accurate. They do have error. But if you want to believe in an eternal hell, and that God will do worse than Hitler ever thought about, you go right ahead
---Billy on 10/14/06


This muddy fusion hides rather than reveals. The higher divine self, the light within, faith as light, promoting love, peace - and being open to a universal dimension.
---Anonymous on 10/14/06


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Universalism, mixing New Age and Christianity raises questions. It creates an atmosphere that communicates indirectly for an alternative vision. No servant can be the slave of two masters. Openness to all religious standpoints, but hiding itself, it occasionally is made abundantly clear - there is no tolerable place for true Christianity.
---Anonymous on 10/14/06


So Billy, no matter how many times you morph around the boards, that element is always, there.
---Anonymous on 10/14/06


With arguments justifying this mixture of New Age/Christianity, a fusion - confusion blurs the real differences. A fusion of all religions brings confusion. Playing with words, universalism, mystical religion. Anything that promotes conceptual confusion and secrecy needs to be scrutinized.
---Anonymous on 10/14/06


And that's where error comes in, when you search all avenues for the truth. There is only one way, and narrow is the gate. New Age philosophies, babylon and pagan religions will not bring you to repentence. Dabbling in witchcraft and Christianity is muddy water. If you take delight in muddy water, than the rivers of living water will not attract you.
---Anonymous on 10/14/06


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I_AM_I: Obviously, "you aren't" a Christian. Unfortunately, " you are " a bitter & confused (deluded) person who is in dire need of deliverance from the devil's lies (delusions). " You are " in desperate need of repentance before the one & only true, & living God. For your soul's sake, praise God. Don't raise hell! Turn from your sin (rebellion against God) before it's too late for you . I pray for your soul's deliverance...
---Leon on 10/14/06


I_AM_I, yes the serpent did lie to Eve. It is written in scripture that Satan is the father of lies, everything that comes from him is a lie.
---Ryan on 10/11/06


(4).I AM I, Ill follow you on this, because I do search all avenues to know the truth. God bless.
---Billy on 10/10/06


I AM I, Didnt Jesus Do only what he saw his Father do? Even Jesus said that I can nothing outside of what his Father wanted him to do? Jesus never submitted to his own will, but only to the will of his Father. Even creation was of the Father, but through Christ, it became a reality.

So how can Jesus teach his Father, when Jesus seaks nothing but the Fathers will? How can He add to something that doesnt need adding to?
---Billy on 10/10/06


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(3). I AM I, as the Father was in Jesus, and Jesus in the Father, and He in us, and we in Him, is what makes us one. According to your words, Jesus can even teach his Father. We can only be Christ, as Christ is within us. The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect "or mature" shall be as his master "Luk 6:40".

Im sure that you dont think that Jesus was equal to his Father do you? Being God, or being god is two different things.
---Billy on 10/10/06


(2). I AM I, and yes, we are even a Christ.

1Jo 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is [Christ], so are we [Christ] in this world.

Act 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

Yes yes yes. But still, Jesus wasnt equal to his Father! Its all being one in Him.
---Billy on 10/10/06


(1). I AM I, Ill answer the question for Ryan. The only lie that the serpent told to Eve, was that you will not surely die.

God had intended for Adam and Eve to partake of this tree, so that they could take there first steps to becoming like God. Or you could say, a god. Yes we are gods "John 10:34". Even Satan is the god of this world, "2Cor 4:4". But isnt Jesus the only begotten of the Father "John 1:14"? Jesus knew no sin. But we were sinners from our birth.
---Billy on 10/10/06


I AM I, I answer, but you do not receive my answers. Yes, the serpent blatantly lied to Eve, for Eve did not become a god, but instead she became lower than righteous, separated from God by sinning, and became mortal and cursed, even as the serpent also chose to be unrighteous, separated, debased, and cursed.
---Eloy on 10/10/06


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#4/ Billy, since Jesus and the Father are ONE and of the same substance, we can teach Jesus IF Jesus can teach the Father. BE CAREFUL how you answer this because it may change your idea of God. Thanks for the post. I have been waiting for you to let us go explore knowledge, wisdom and spirituality together, whether inside the Bible or outside. I know you and maybe two other people can push me in my heresy or nonsense. God bless!
---I_AM_I on 10/10/06


#2/ Billy, Jesus manifested the Christ and Paul told us that we can do the same. Phil 2:5-7: LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU WHICH WAS ALSO IN CHRIST JESUS, etc. See also John 10:33-36: Ye are gods (I hope Eloy will join us as I discuss this with your further!). Billy, are you saying that the bride and body of Christ are not equal with Christ? If yes, read 1 Corinthian 12, the entire chapter. Paul tells us it is ONE body but many members.
---I_AM_I on 10/10/06


Ryan, just when I thought you were doing one of those 180 degree turns you mentioned Sister Eve. Your posts #2 and #3 sound different than the previous Ryan. Finally, you admit in #3 that both man and woman should be submissive in the relationship. In #2 you also admit that the wife is not the property of the husband. I am glad to see your immediate growth. However, #1 still has me confused. Therefore, I will ask you the same question I asked Eloy and he did not answer. Did the serpent lie to Eve?
---I_AM_I on 10/10/06


#1/ Billy, YOU WROTE: So in the fisical, if the wife is equal to the husband, then we could say that we the bride and body of Christ are equal with Christ. So Can we teach Jesus? I dont think so. --- BILLY
I am about to get into the difference between Yeshua ben Yusef and the Christ under the What is the Trinity section, providing that someone can list the four (4) instances that Yeshua used the word Christ. Yes, we are equal to Jesus and we too can attain the Christ.
---I_AM_I on 10/10/06


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#3/ Billy, you even admit to that later in your post when YOU WROTE: Yes we all are one in Christ, and there is neither male nor female in Christ.--- BILLY. The ONE TRUE GOD is the ocean. Jesus the Christ is a wave in the ocean and we (gods) are a drop in the ocean. It is ONE ocean comprising many drops and waves! I will hammer home this ocean example as we discuss this further. I will also show you that electricity works the same way as the ocean.
---I_AM_I on 10/10/06


(2). I AM I, So in the fisical, if the wife is equal to the husband, then we could say that we the bride and body of Christ are equal with Christ. So Can we teach Jesus? I dont think so. The things that are made clearly give us sight into the invisible things of God, that were made. The relationship of man and woman, is what we have as a pattern of Christ being the head of his body. Christ leads as we follow, not the other way around.
---Billy on 10/10/06


I AM I, The only thing that I can say that the scriptures refer to as the man being the head of the woman, also refers to Christ being the head of the church. Eph 5:32, This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Jesus was using fisical marriage to relate to the spiritual body and head of Christ. Yes we all are one in Christ, and there is neither male nor female in Christ.
---Billy on 10/10/06


I AM I, Servant may be a better term than slave. Slavery depicted in the Bible was not an evil thing. The slaves who served their owners commonly as field tenders were treated and adopted as part of the owners family, many ate meals with the owners; and when their term of service was completed many slaves strongly desired to remain with their owners, and thus the owner would bore their ear through as a token that the slave would remain on with his owner.
---Eloy on 10/9/06


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I AM I, I never professed that men and women are equal, but on the contrary I said that those who wrongly believe this, they need only to enter the opposite restroom to relieve themself and they will see the difference.
---Eloy on 10/9/06


#1 I_AM_I, it is not for me to determine what social practices married couples partake in. If they choose that the wife will walk behind the husband I have no problems with this. It is clear in scripture that good leaders are good servants, so the man, being head of the household is first and foremost a servant to his household. The scriptures say that man has power over woman, this was a punishment that was administered to woman because of the transgression of Eve.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


#3 I_AM_I, She is your wife you are to love her not treat her like property or an inferior. As the man & the stronger vessel you are to protect her, within a marriage the man and woman compliment each other, even more so if they are walking in the Spirit and seeking God's truth & righteousness.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


#2 I_AM_I, Wives are to be submissive to their husband. Being submissive is not the equivelent of being a servant or a slave. It is clear to me that God is saying: if God is the head of Christ & Christ is the head of man that man will be led by the Spirit & the woman and man in the marriage bond are both being submissive.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


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#2/ Eloy, YOU WROTE: As when scripture reads that all are one in Christ, this speaks of God's grace coming upon all who are born-again equally, and he is not prejudiced favoring Jews or men or free people over the Greeks or woman or slaves, etc.---ELOY

Since you mentioned free people and slaves, when we are done with the subject of submissive wives and their domineering Christian husbands, I need you and the gang to tell me why the Bible condones slavery of any kind.
---I_AM_I on 10/9/06


Eloy, I am confused by your last post. If people commonly misapply scripture, are you one of those people? Do you want to engage me on what Helen said before she defends her position? I am wondering why she is missing in action (M.I.A.) on the treatment of women and men in Scripture. ELOY, until you and the gang can prove to me that only a man can have a child or only a woman can have a child, then God created male and female equally. Show me where my COMMON SENSE example is false doctrine.
---I_AM_I on 10/9/06


#1 Ryan, you answered the one question I did not need an immediate answer to. Please respond to the other questions on man and woman or husband and wife. Do you still believe that ONLY the woman or wife should be submissive in the marriage or relationship? Does the wife ALWAYS have to walk behind the husband or can she walk beside him? If we are finished with this subject, I will gladly address your post, especially on the US in Genesis. Unlike Helen and Eloy, I hope you answer my questions on Genesis.
---I_AM_I on 10/9/06


#2 Ryan, Danie has a 7-part post on the trinity under the What Is The Trinity section. Also, 1st Cliff posed a beautiful question under the same section. Danie invited me and Helen to read his post. Have you read it? Danie used a few terms in his trinity that mystics, metaphysicians or spiritual people use. I am confident that if I had used those terms, the floodgate would have been opened. Nevertheless, I will expound on his mystical use of those terms later under that section.
---I_AM_I on 10/9/06


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#2 I_AM_I, So the Father, Son & Spirit are the one but reveal themselves to Humanity in different ways.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


#3 I_AM_I, The Father reveals Himself in unequaled Glory & righteousness; the Father burns with wrath & righteous anger; the Father is jealous; the Father shows us we are worthless & condemned only to death &, we only deserve death; the Father reveals the complete & utter destitute position, in eternity, for humanity; the Father administered the law, revealing mans inept ability to ever please God; the Father also revealed a shimmer of hope.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


#4 I_AM_I, The Son is the embodiement of God's love, mercy, justice, kindness, gentleness & patience with humanity. The Son is the Good Shepherd whose voice is strong & true inside the heart of the believer. The Son is the way to be pleasing before God. He satifies our hunger for righteousness with His flesh and quenches our thirst with His blood. The Son is the sacrafice, accepted by the Father, & given to the world for our salvation.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


#4 I_AM_I Ahh, the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is ent to be our teacher, guide & comforter; The Spirit is here to mature us; The Spirit lives in our circumsized heart & establishes a spring of eternal life; The Spirit prepares us to live with Jahovah in eternity.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


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#1 I_AM_I, I Coritnthians 11:6 says God is the head of Christ. Never forget that God is Father, Son & Spirit. Amongst themselves they refer to each other as individuals &, in Genesis, when they speak of themselves they use plural forms such as: 'us' & 'our'. Jesus prays to the Father; at the baptism of Christ the heavens open and the Father testifies & reveals "This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased."; Christ says He is leaving His disciples but the Father will send another, The Comforter.
---Ryan on 10/9/06


I AM I, people commonly misapply scripture to suit their own ends, but I keep passages in their proper context. As when scripture reads that all are one in Christ, this speaks of God's grace coming upon all who are born-again equally, and he is not prejudiced favoring Jews or men or free people over the Greeks or woman or slaves, etc. But this passage is not advocating men and women being equal as in being gender-neutral, for that is a false doctrine of the rebellious who are against God's order.
---Eloy on 10/9/06


6/ Ryan ** As a married man I expect my wife to be submissive and as the head of the household it is my responsibiblity to love her and be a good leader by fist understanding that I must be a good servent.** RYAN

There is some truth to first being a good servant before being a good leader. Who makes the determination of who is the head of the household, you and your wife or just you alone? I never view loving my wife as my RESPONSIBILITY! Loving my wife is not a job or a chore!
---I_AM_I on 10/8/06


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