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Is Remarriage Adultery

The Church of God of Prophecy has voted to reverse its position that people who remarry after a divorce are committing adultery. Do you agree?

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Jesus came so that the law of moses was done away with. The concept (dead to sin =alive in christ)is not law but grace to free us from bondage to sin. And, DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE is one of those that REAL christians die to - JESUS gives definition as "ADULTERY".

We are dead to sin.

Romans 6 1Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2By no means! We died to sin, how can we live in it any longer? 3Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? ..that we should no longer be slaves to sin 7because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

Romans 2:13 it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey...
---wal_rev on 5/30/09


The vail is over the eyes of those who are under Moses, they cannot see the power of God they cannot over come their flesh, They cannot allow others to be free of sin, they love to keep their brethren in bondage, and make proselytes that are twice the Sons of Hell they are. They make themselves look good by finding sin in others. Rather than believing that the blood can free all sin and bring newness of life in every life. There is no law that Jesus cannot walk upon. Whatever law Moses can produce to make men drown in sin. Jesus can break it. Like he broke the law of gravity and walked on the water. Some see Jesus and believe, they take a few steps upon grace like Peter walking to Jesus upon the water, then turning back to the law they sink.
---Exzucuh on 5/30/09


Ralph ... Maybe you scanned my post, but you did not read it, or ignored much of it.

Where did I say the difference was unfair? You really ought to check the meaning of "apparent"

I have not questioned the rule, just asked if the Bible gives a reason for it.

But perhaps my question should have been just: "I know this is what the Bible says, and I know God does not have to give a reason for any rules, but is there a Biblical reason given for this difference in the rules for innocent husbands and innocent wives?"
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/30/09


Alan, if I did not read your post then how could I have responded to it? My psychic abilities perhaps?

"Overall, your response indicates that you have been no more successful than me in finding a Biblical reason."

Finding a biblical reason for what? "Apparently" unfair differences in the rules? The supposed unfairness is only apparent to you. Why would I search for a biblical reason for something which I don't believe exists in the first place?
---ralph7477 on 5/29/09


exzucuh on 5/26/09 You can deceive yourself, but not others.

you wrote.. But MARRIAGE is not a sin and a DIVORCED person forgiven of divorce cannot commit adultery with someone they are married to ...as long as that person is also a christian ????

Jesus teaches us DIVORCE and re MARRIAGE IS ADULTERY.

Mark 10:12 And if she DIVORCES her husband and MARRIES another man, she COMMITS ADULTERY."Mark 10:11 He answered, "Anyone who DIVORCES his wife and MARRIES another woman commits ADULTERY against her.

Matthew 19:19 Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY

FOLLOWERS of Christ will abide and women MUST NOT REMARRY -the only option is to reconcile. 1 Corinthians 7:11.

---wal_rev on 5/29/09




Let us stand on the word of our precious jesus whos teachings were righteous. Divorce and remarriage is ADULTERY exactly as jesus defines it.. anything other than the word of god is a lie from man.

Luke 16:18 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

Matthew 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'

Romans 7:3 So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress
---wal_rev on 5/29/09


Alan8566_of_uk:
For Christians, God forgives sin, and in fact, washes it away! But there is still a consequence for ones actions. Why do you believe that the innocent party being the woman, is not free to remarry? It is proper though to consider the past relationships. For example, had she committed adultery in a past marriage? Another thing to consider is that some people live together, and are in a type of marriage. Practically speaking,the preparation for a Godly relationship is made more difficult for those people. Also see, 1Timothy 3 (bigamy).
Though rare, for the Jewish males, having more than one wife was allowed, but remarriage was not permissible for adulterers. Under the law, 'stone divorces' were required.
---Glenn on 5/29/09


Ralph ... you seem to have a limited understanding of the English language. May I suggest you look up the dictionary for a definition of the word "apparently"?

Or perhaps you have still not noticed the use of the word ... other things you say indicate that you did not read my post.

Overall, your response indicates that you have been no more successful than me in finding a Biblical reason. That's OK by me, God has the complete right to make a rule and give no reason.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/29/09


If you are satisfied living under Moses Law Then I am satisfied To let you. The vail will always be over the eyes of those who cannot grasp the Kingdom of God.
---Exzucuh on 5/28/09


Alan, for me to answer your question would mean that I accept the premise of your question. I don't. You deem God's order as "unfair". Fairness is a subjective concept. I accept God's word as it is written and I don't waste time to question why, as if an acceptable explanation would make a difference.

I assume you own a bible. You are perfectly capable of researching your question for yourself to your satisfaction. The fact that you posted it publicly tells me that you felt the need to express how you feel, specifically that God is being unfair to women.
---ralph7477 on 5/28/09




Messiah: I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.

Exzucuh: But marriage is not a sin and a divorced person forgiven of divorce cannot commit adultery with someone they are married to as long as that person is also a christian and forgiven of their sin.

Contrast?

Master said "anyone". He didn't say it was ok for forgiven Christians, He said "anyone" who does is an adulterer. Yes, divorce is forgiven. But I disagree that marriage isn't a sin in this case. If one remarries after a divorce without unfaithfulness, marriage is a sin. When Master says "go and sin no more", this sin would be included in what NOT to do.
---AlwaysOn on 5/28/09


Ralph ... Even though you quote my question, you clearly have not read it before you wrote yours of 5/25.

What I asked was:

"I know this is what the Bible says, and I know God does not have to give a reason for any rules, but is there a Biblical reason given for this apparently unfair difference in the rules for innocent husbands and innocent wives?

You have not even attempted to answer the question.

The simplest answer would be for you to say, "yes, and this is the scriptura giving the reason", or to say "No" There would have been no need to say God does not have to give a reason, because I had already pointed this out.

So, does the Bible give a reason?
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/27/09


Jesus prohibited divorce except for Adultery, that included lying about ones virginity. The non adulterer could remarry. The adulterer was not free to marry, and anyone marrying one is entering a prohibited marriage. A divorce without cause, was no divorce, and so, another marriage was a type of bigamy. The exception is in 1Corinthians 7:15. If the unbeliever departs, the Christian can remarry because the marriage was not 'in the Lord'.
Deuteronomy 22:17-19, 28-29, 24:1-4, Proverbs 2:17 (forsaketh husband), Isaiah 54:4-8, Jeremiah 3:1, Malachi 2:14-16.
Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Luke 16:18, 1Corinthians 6:15-16, 7:10-17, 27.
1Timothy 3:1-15, Titus 1:6-9, 1Peter 5:2-3.
---Glenn on 5/27/09


E-mail me Carla 3939
---Carla3939 on 5/27/09


Carla3939,
I understood that it is ok for a woman to fornicate with another woman and that such act is not reason for divorce.

If that is not what you said, I apologize, understanding then that you said what the Lord did say, that a man who does fornicate while being married, will stain his wife for now and afterwards even if he put her away passing the adultery stain also to the next guy.

Where I will not apologize is in my understanding made clear by the word of God, that all sin is adultery against Him, even all sin against our brothers (wife included) is also adultery of the way God has declared we should walk. Hence, Paul declares 1 Timothy 5:8 (worse than an infidel), and I will not bind another to an infidel.
---Nana on 5/26/09


Carla, all he did was ask for scripture to back up what you are saying.
That is not personal criticism. that is asking for truth.
Truth being God's word.


exzucuh, awesome post and certainly in line with scripture!
---miche3754 on 5/26/09


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nana,

If you have nothing constructive to give towards the blog you can e-mail me with all the criticism you like....... I'll just put them where all criticism belongs DELETED!!!
---Carla3939 on 5/26/09



stealing is a sin, if you are forgiven you should not steal again you should seek God and obey the Gospel and get the Holy Spirit in your life to empower you to live for God.
Getting a divorce is a sin, if you are forgiven
of that sin do not get another divorce. But marriage is not a sin and a divorced person forgiven of divorce cannot commit adultery with someone they are married to as long as that person is also a christian and forgiven of their sin. They are under the blood, they are white as snow, cleansed virgins in Gods sight.A thief forgiven and Born again is not a thief but a saint of God, A divorced person is no longer divorced but a saint of God.
---exzucuh on 5/26/09


When you tell people what Jesus said you should take to thought if what he said applies to them. Jesus was speaking to Jews under the Law of Judaism *Nomos* Law. They had to obey these things given to them by Moses, some he called them commandments of men. We are not under *Nomos* Law we are under *The Law Of Liberty*. This is the Law of the spirit of life that is in Christ Jesus. The Law of Grace that says any one who is in Jesus is a new Creature,old things have passed away all things become new. Divorce is a sin but under the blood It never happened, Jesus would say Go and divorce no more, He would not say Go and marry no more because marriage is Holy and not a sin.
---exzucuh on 5/26/09


"Christ said A man should not put away his wife committing Fornication with another woman if he does he causes his wife whom he is married to (if she marries again) commit Adultery."
Carla3939 on 1/15/09

Where is that Scripture?
---Nana on 5/26/09


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"... is there a Biblical reason given for this apparently unfair difference in the rules for innocent husbands and innocent wives?"

Why does everything have to be "fair"? Children are obsessed with everything being fair. Life is not fair. God does not have to be fair. Was it fair of God to choose Abraham and his descendants to be His people, thereby excluding the rest of mankind?

It is even more absurd to talk "fairness" when it comes to gender. Each was created for a different purpose. Feminism has been so ingrained in society that any perceived advantage favoring men simply can't be tolerated. Frankly, the premise that not being able to remarry is punishment is a flawed viewpoint in itself.
---ralph7477 on 5/25/09


It would depend on a lot of things.The reason for the divorce was the partner commiting adultry? Was the person even saved at the time of the first marriage? Every case needs to be examined on an individual basis-IMHO
---shirley on 5/24/09


Elder ... it goes further than that, doesn't it, and seems rather harsh.

For if a wife commits adultery, and the husband divorces her, then he may remarry, but she may not (which is OK)

But if the husband commits adultery, and his wife divorces him, he may not remarry, (which is OK) but neither may she, even tho' she is innocent.

I know this is what the Bible says, and I know God does not have to give a reason for any rules, but is there a Biblical reason given for this apparently unfair difference in the rules for innocent husbands and innocent wives?

I've not found one.
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/24/09


The innocent party in scripture is either the man who did not commit the offence or the wife whom the husband left. What does the bible say:

1Cr 7:11
But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.

1Cr 7:39
The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth, but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will, only in the Lord.

1Cr 7:40
But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.
---Carla3939 on 5/24/09


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It is never lawful for someone to divorce, divorce is a sin, but like any other sin once under the blood that person is as if they were never divorced. Why do you think God allowed a murderer to be an Apostle, Paul said he did what he did in ignorance, Is that an excuse to kill Jews, He is no different than Hitler, they are still prosecuting those they find for killing Jews. Paul repented and once under the blood he was no longer a murderer but a saint of God. Filled with the holy Spirit he did not murder again. A person forgiven of divorce is
free of that bondage and cannot be held under
the law of Judaism that they commit adultery by remarriage. They are under the Law of liberty, the law of the Spirit of Grace.
---exzucuh on 5/24/09


Again Elder,

One has to look at why the Pharisees tried to tempt Jesus did they do so knowing the truth on Adultery/Fornication? or did they wish that Jesus would back up Moses and agree that one could divorce/remarry for every reason.

From their questions on the subject the way in which they lived being hypocrites they saw marriage as something the husband controlled regardless of Gods will.

The debate is Two fold
(Truth/Untruth) they wanted the freedom to divorce/remarry liberally and Jesus gave them the truth One opt out clause {except for fornication).
---Carla3939 on 5/24/09


Carala, my Bible teaches in Matt 19:3 that the Pharisees were tempting Jesus. Trying to trap Him if you will. They asked is it lawful to divorce for every (not any) cause?
Jesus answered with the fornication/sexual sins clause, v9.
If you divorce for just any reason and remarry you have committed fornication.
If a mate was divorced for fornication then whosoever marries that fornicating person has committed fornication.
But you also see that not all can receive or understand this, v11. That is those with the Pharisee attitude. The Pharisee attitude wants to kill and punish everyone. Even the innocent party.
---Elder on 5/23/09


John, Jesus and Paul teach the same content, it is so crystal clear and it is all over the scripture. People want to suit themselves over god, so they deceive themselves and choose to live as adulterers.

Romans 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
---wal_rev on 5/23/09


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Elder,
(The Question)
The pharisees asked if any one could divorce for 19:3

ANY:

1.one, a, an, or some, one or more without specification or identification: If you have any witnesses, produce them. Pick out any six you like.

Reason.
---Carla3939 on 5/23/09


The word of god is love. I would not choose the word scary to describe gods words or the teachings of christ. We are living in times of deception where the world teaches, excuses, accepts sin and a life against christ. When a person first glances through the bible as I did 20+ years ago, amongst the many teachings: jesus taught that divorce and remarriage is adultery, any man who goes with a divorced woman commits adultery, if she divorces and remarries she commits adultery (Romans 7:3 Mark 10:11-12). True christians seek gods word (bible study) and obey. The holy spirit leads a man to stand on the truth without excuses for sin or pursuit of delusions taught by men as this is an "adulterous and sinful generation Mark 8:38"
---wal_rev on 5/23/09


Carla3939, look closely at the Scripture you offered and realize that it is speaking about a woman being put away for adultry. If someone marries an adultress or adulterer they commit adultry by doing so. The Bible also says that if the unbelieving depart let him depart. A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases. Don't try to bind someone that God has set free.
I still have not received an answer to the other questions. Again, who gave the rules for divorce?
---Elder on 5/23/09


Mat 19:9


And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Mat 19:11
But he said unto them, All [men] cannot receive this saying, save [they] to whom it is given.


If you choose to murder your wife you will be judged on knowing it was a sin yet committed the sin being ignorant of the fact that God hates the shedding of innocent Blood.
---Carla3939 on 5/22/09


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The Church of God of Prophecy has voted to reverse its position that people who remarry after a divorce are committing adultery. Do you agree? (OP)
-----------------------------------------
What was the cause of divorce? It makes a huge difference. There are some that would make it adultery no matter what. And, even in the case of adultery of the other spouse, the Bible is silent on the "remarriage is ok part". It only says that divorce is permitted. Since it does not explicitly forbid it, many people now say that remarriage is permissible if the other spouse is a cheater.
---obewan on 5/22/09


wal_rev, whoa, that's scary.
Sir, where did the rules for marriage come from? Where does the "marriage vows come from? Where does the divorce rules come from?
Tell me, if I am about to get a divorce would it be better to murder my wife and then ask for forgiveness? God would forgive me, huh?
Since my wife would be dead then I could remarry with no problem, don't you think?
You posted a lot of what the Bible says now go find out what it means.
If God is Love how could He hate? Search out that word hate in your passage and find out what it means. Did God actually "hate" Esau, Mal 1:3? Or, does that word actually mean prefer? Check it out rev.....
---Elder on 5/22/09


It's common sense that you cannot make anyone stay with you regardless of Salvation but to use scripture to validate divorce still cannot and will not lay roots on the fact that one is to also remain single if the spouse leaves.

The scripture says they are not in bondage because they are obviously not compatible one being in darkness and the other in light. Who would want to married to such a person anyway that individual is judged already.

God gives specific scriptures to validate one whoever cannot just up and remarry except fornication is committed even with abandonment.
---Carla3939 on 5/20/09


"God blesses remarriage?" That is false AND GOES AGAINST the TRUE teachings of the bible. We are to obey THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS. TRUTH1 Isaiah 29:13 The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men.

TRUTH2 God hates divorce Malachi 2:16 , the bible says any woman that remarries while her husband is alive is called an "adulteress", Romans 7:3 . IF women do divorce they are commanded to remain single 1 Corinthians 7:11 if she divorces and remarries she commits adultery Mark 10-12. And, any man who goes with an adulteress commits adultery and destroys his soul.Proverbs
---wal_rev on 5/19/09


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1Cor 7:13-16
And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not,
and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife,
and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband:
else were your children unclean, but now are they holy.

But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart.

A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:

but God hath called us to peace.

For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband?
or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?
---suzie4487 on 5/20/09


Yes marriage after divorce is a sin unless the spouse is dead or adultery was committed. However as with all sins, God offers forgiveness, grace, and mercy. He is waiting to bless you when you confess your sin to him. He can and does bless remarriage. Doesn't the word REmarriage beg the question?
---Tonya on 5/19/09


Yes.. according to god.

Romans 7:3 So then, IF SHE MARRIES ANOTHER MAN while her husband is still alive, SHE IS called an ADULTERESS. Proverbs 30:20 "This is the way of an ADULTERESS: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, 'I've done nothing wrong.'

Mark 10:12 And if she DIVORCES her husband and MARRIES ANOTHER MAN, SHE COMMITS ADULTERY."Matthew 5:32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who MARRIES THE DIVORCED WOMAN COMMITS ADULTERY.

Romans 13:9 The commandments, "DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," etc
---wal_rev on 5/19/09


I believe that the word of God is true and one should study the word to work out what is right. According the Matt19:9 If the husband marries again without his wife committing fornication he will be called an Adulterer and the wife also.



It is not stated that a woman can indeed remarry but through faith only can this be viewed as possible, we live in a society that suggests equal rights in everything but it's not society that provides eternal life it is God and for this reason it seems reasonable to understand the ruling for this agreement. Again it is only from what I read that I understand this to be so, one can always give a better input or understanding if through scripture this is wrong.
---Carla3939 on 3/16/09


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If you are to mean that the Church of God is now taking the position: that a person committs adultery when marrying another person while their first mate is living: Then I agree, this is God's word.
---Delbert_W._Whaley on 3/1/09


God already called these women out since the beginning of time. They are not christians - any woman who divorces and does not remain single is a willing adulteress. These woman, many in the church actually "claim" church is their priority but live in complete violation to the teachings of christ - they take joy in their new last name(s) and take gain with the wages of their adultery,ignore god and lead their very own husband to the depths of eternal damnation. But... they do not care.. why proverbs will tell you the answer to this. She believes she did NO Wrong.MARK10:12,ROMANS 3:7,LUKE 16:18,ETC
---walrev on 2/16/09


No discussion of divorce and remarriage based on Jesus' words in Matthew 19 can be properly understood for the Church Age without reconciling it with 1 Corinthians 7: 12. "But to the rest I say, not the Lord..." Jesus said that because of the hardness of heart of mankind, divorce and remarriage was permitted under Moses. Paul says substantially the same thing in 1 Corinthians 7: 15 in reference to mixed marriages. Among believers it is forbidden for a woman to remarry other than her former husband. No similar command given for a man.
---Ben on 2/9/09




Mat 5:32

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Christ said A man should not put away his wife committing Fornication with another woman if he does he causes his wife whom he is married to (if she marries again) commit Adultery.

So take note the offence is committed against the wife Yet if she marries after the event

It says:

Quote..and Whosoever marries her that is Divorced committeth Adultery.
---Carla3939 on 1/15/09


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Mat 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Mat 19:10
His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with [his] wife, it is not good to marry.


Mat 19:11
But he said unto them, All [men] cannot receive this saying, save [they] to whom it is given.
---Carla3939 on 1/14/09


miche,
If your husband puts you away he cannot(although he did) re-marry and the marriage be accepted in the lord cos you did not commit fornication.

If you committ fornication he has the right
to put you away only if he cannot bring himself to go back to you, one scripture indicates an exception based on the old Mosaic opinion of divorce stating if you commit fornication the penalty is Adultery for him.

I answered using the the cover of the book you presented you did not disclose the contents until now.
---Carla3939 on 1/14/09


Mische:- Glad I was able to be of assistance in some small way.Like clint Says "You made my day "Blessings.Love in Christ.
---Mic on 1/13/09


but see carla, mine chose to divorce me for another woman. I tried to reconcile but he didn't want to.
God has forgiven this so I know I can remarry.
Sis, never judge when you don't have all the facts. God bless you!
Mic, true brother very true. Still your sister in Christ no matter what.
Oh, I found out you were right about Mary. I humble apologize and thank God for the revelation of it.
God bless you brother!
---miche3754 on 1/13/09


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Carla:-THANK YOU.The wheels of justice grind slowly but surely making all truth known and available, for those who live to love and serve the lord.
---Mic on 1/13/09


miche,

The scriptures indicate that a woman taking another man disregarding her husband is an Adulteress Romans 7, mark 10, Matt 5. Matt 19 explains the sanctity of marriage where they work out the penalty is Adultery women/man, concluding it's better NOT to Marry!

~Only one scripture in the N/T indicates a man can put his wife away for fornication, forgiveness is about repentance NOT Re- Marriage. The alternative is forgiveness of the offending spouse and ultimately reconciliation. You are to remain >SINGLE< 1Corinthians 7 NOwhere where in the word indicates re-offending by committing Adultery?

I'd question what spirit said otherwise?
---Carla3939 on 1/13/09


Mische:Thank you for your candour.Love for a fellow being runs in strange ways,I guess it is my age.Time will determine -whatever will be ,will be.The future is not ours to see Que Sera sera. Peace.sorry for imparting something you are aware of.
---Mic on 1/12/09


mic,
we have been around and around on this.
You are not judge and jury. WE aren't suppose to use the word of God to condemn our brothers and sisters in Christ.
If they have asked for forgiveness and God says in his word, those who ask he gives it.
If God chooses to give them another mate, who are YOU to question it?
This is not about condemnation. In Christ, there is no Condemnation.You know as well I do that those words were directed at the Pharisee-JEWS! Gentiles weren't included at that time. Jesus says to forgive your brothers and sisters 70 times 7 times. Why don't you try it? it feels good NOT to condemn someone for their past.
---miche3754 on 1/12/09


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Mische:-Every one likes to hear the things that they agree with but reject strongly those that disagree with them.Two wrongs dont make a right.This is a fact.Forgiveness is only given on contrition, reoffence removes that forgiveness.Matt19:8 shows this as God's word.In relation to marriage/DIVORCE.It is not I who say this but His word, in respect of your acceptance of His approval.Only the truth will set you free.But that is your choice as you state.Read luke6:25.I give you a word Impenitent, realise its implication.Sister:-)
---Mic on 1/12/09


Adultery (ie: ad, to + ulter, other) is intimately joining to someone other than your married spouse. Thus the actual act of adultery is committed by married persons, and not by divorced persons: single people can sin by fornication which is whoredom, but married people can sin by adultery.
---Eloy on 1/12/09


It is church mind control that tells people that they cannot remarry if their partner has broken the contract. The Bible shows us that if one commits fornication they have more or less given a green light for the other partner to remarry. The one who commits the sin is the guilty party and in their case their remarriage especially to the person they committed adultry with, does not look too good from a Biblical perspective. Yes, God forgives. But he wants repentance first. If you commit adultry and then marry that person, that does not look very repentant. But if that person is repentant, God sees the heart and will probably give them a punishment in this life and not the next. We need to respect the Holy Spirit and not abuse our freedom.
---frances008 on 1/11/09


actually mic, I don't have a hang up about marriage.
I do have one with those who say God does not forgive.
You are one of those.
If God has told me I am forgiven then I am forgiven. What comes from people like you in this in this case are lies from the father of lies saying God hasn't forgiven me of divorce and that I can remarry when He has told me I can, From several sources and from Him.
Where 2 or 3 are gathered in God's name he is there touching and agreeing. I don't need man's approval. Only God's.
You already know my views so I don't know why you bother answering any of my post.
God Bless you brother!
---miche3754 on 1/11/09


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A marriage is supposed to be based on a man and a woman who TRULY are in love with each other. It should be set according to the parameters that God has outlined for us and it takes a very special mind-set to really understand what it takes to make it work. You have to be mature enough and know deep down in your heart that you can spend the rest of your life keeping the marriage fresh. When this isn't the case, divorces take place. God understands that we make mistakes and when we ask for forgiveness, He gives it. God intended for everyone to have his or her perfect mate. Why? Because a happy marriage is the nucleus of a happy family which is the nucleus of a happy neighborhood which is the nucleus of a happy city, etc...
---Paul on 1/10/09


Remarriage is "possible" though for all divorced people. Just not at all churches.


Mat 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

1Cr 7:2
Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
---Carla3939 on 1/9/09


The concept of GOD'S Forgiveness in IMHO is only forgiven if one does not reoffend.IF one reoffends then there is No contritiion.I believe this is what Jesus implys.Sorry may be a word, but contrition is a emotion,combined with sorrow.Mische The sin is in RE-Marriage.and called adultery.You have a hangup on remarriage being OK, But the word of God denies you this privelege.So it is not I who say But God's word Matt19:9.Little ole me follows the same rule.JEW and Gentile God does not discriminate.BTW are you planning on getting married again?GBY
---Mic on 1/9/09


I am thinking now that remarriage is sin. Sure there are cases where divorce is allowed, but even those have some degree of human failing in that reconcilliatioin and forgivness failed to work.

We are all sinners. As such, it is no suprise to me that remarriage could be considered a sin. When it happens, it breaks a sacred vow for a relationship that is supposed to last til death.

Even in cases where one spouse is abused or was unfaithful, the other spouse gets hurt by the divorce.

Still, churches need to be ready to offer forgiveness and healing to people who have been hurt by divorce.

Remarriage is "possible" though for all divorced people. Just not at all churches.
---obewan on 1/9/09


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mic..."and hope for forgiveness"- You don't believe you are forgiven when you ask? that goes against scripture.
...not to RECOMMIT- Hmmm... What part is the sin?
The marriage or the divorce?
It can't be the marriage because God made Marriage.
The sin is the divorce.
How do you NOT commit this again?
Is it by re-marrying? NO.
It is only if you get married again AND divorce again.
WHO ARE YOU to say that GOD DOES NOT forgive?
God is not a man. You(we) are just a bubble on the water, nothing without God's forgiveness.
The scripture given about marriage were to pharisee- JEWS, not gentiles.
AND Jesus was using it demonstrate that divorce because you found someone better looking(example) is wrong.
---miche3754 on 1/9/09


also,mic,
what is my interpretation of Love?
Well the forgiveness of all sin, no matter what.
To not have anything against your brother and sister.
Not to judge anyone, but to love them inspite of their faults. Not to hold their past against them and judge them for it.
If they were married then divorced, so what, God forgave them and they are "free". This means they can marry again.
God says that anything you(we) ask he will give within his will. There is no one sin God won't forgive you for if you ask.
God does not hold past sins against anyone in Christ including divorce.
Why should we?
GBY!!
---miche3754 on 1/9/09


Information withheld does not leave, room for sustainable dialogue.shows lack of truthful free will expression.Hence a sustainable bias is created.
---Mic on 1/8/09


Mische :-One cannot flaunt the laws of God and hope for forgiveness.Forgiveness is granted on sincere Repentance with a firm purpose of ammendment not to RECOMMIT.Otherwise there is no contrition and the greviance is not absolved-which means the sin is retained by the transgressor.The blemish remains as is,and the Christian is under the impression that he is free of sin which He/She is 'Not'.Which makes me ask, "what is your interpretation of LOVE".
---Mic on 1/8/09


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Amen mima!
Don't be as the pharisees.
LOVE YOUR BROTHER AS YOUR SELF!
Forgive, Love, and forgive. No matter the sin, forgive as God forgives. There is no sin God won't forgive if you ask with sincerity and humbleness.
Too many Christians trying to bring back up sins God has forgiven.
Is holding a divorce over a persons head and saying "you can't marry again!"(even when God has forgiven them)LOVING YOUR BROTHER AS YOURSELF? Nope it sure isn't.
So people, Love, forgive, and Love.
Just as Jesus said. Love God and neighbor, these are the two GREATEST commands by Jesus. Follow Jesus not man-interpreted beliefs.
---miche3754 on 1/8/09


Jesus died for our sins. And, when we believe upon that... then we crucify our sins in the flesh - so that the spirit is alive in christ.

Forgiveness does not mean he died so we can continue in sin.

Romans 6:6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin



And that is why christians do as jesus said Mark 10 11-12 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

1 John 2:4 The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
---Wal_Rev on 1/8/09


respectfully: MIC,


The word in total agree with Mima


But you will agree with me that you will be preaching a accursed Gospel of which carries significant repercussions.

Mat 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
---Carla3939 on 1/7/09


I'm saying it is impossible to make ourselves right in the eyes of God by our actions. Almighty God has made us righteous in his eyes(reconciled us back to him through his son). I'm saying that every act of wrongdoing has been forgiven and we avail ourselves of that forgiveness by receiving the Lord Jesus Christ.
---mima on 1/7/09


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Mic one of the most disturbing things about some Christians is their determination to be totally absorbed with worry about their sins. If not their's then certainly other people's by which they can condemn them. This is a trick and a tool of the devil.

The more we are concerned with our sins and others sins the less time we will spend in winning others to the kingdom!!!!! This describes one of the great shortcomings of Christians!!!
---mima on 1/7/09


Mima:-Are you suggesting that 2 wrongs make a right on the viability of Faith, amd Jesus's mercy to forgive?Where then is your endeavour to prove your love to this same Jesus you offend, by your repeated action of lustful eyes.To avoid the occasion of sin is more profitable than its indulgence to which you lay credence.
---MIC on 1/7/09


YES, it is adultery. Any that partake do not belong to christ.Mark 10:11 " And if a woman shall put away her husband, and marry another, she committeth ADULTERY. LUKE 16:18 THE MAN WHO MARRIES THE DIVORCED WOMAN COMMITS ADULTERY!Any that partake do not belong to christ.

What about this statement in John 1:29, "The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" is the sin of adultery not included in this statement.

Another question would be to the person who made this statement, has he ever looked on a woman with lust? If so is he guilty of adultery himself? Matthew 5: 28 !!!!
---mima on 1/7/09


It is apparent that those of you adding to this blog have undergone a wide variety of experiences: many of which occurred prior to your decision to surrender your life to God. Despite the differences of opinion Ill bet there is one area where there is general agreement. Most marriage problems result from failure to sincerely seek Gods will as well as failure to wait for His response before entering into matrimony. Been there done that! I am one slow learner that now believes that determining Gods will concerning this vital relationship is of primary importance
---David on 1/7/09


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This is one of those creeds that need to be discussed with the person or persons with whom it is an issue.

The Bible is clear that God hates divorce. Jesus said that it is wrong. Not at all to take away from this clear understanding, God hates many other things also.

When one becomes a believer, all their sins are forgiven. The challenge I have seen in this regard is do the divorced people repent of that sin?

There are a plethora of situations, and the question is how do we Biblically address all of them?

For a church to categorically decide to remarry anybody for any reason would be an error.
---Rod on 1/6/09


I dissagree 100%! Anytime a church goes against the Bible--changing things to better "fit" the time--that is against God as his word NEVER changes. I would be looking for a new church myself.
---cindy on 1/6/09


I second Rev Wal's Quotes .The doctrine is of God by God.and cannot be resolved broken or substitute or changed.God cannot be divided in a marriage, 2 in one flesh has a deeper meaning it is NOT a desire or emotional feeling.Remember the wisdom of Solomon-when 2 women laid claim to the same child.Seek and you WILL find.
---MIC on 1/6/09


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