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Communion In Unworthy Manner

What does it mean to "partake of communion in an unworthy manner?"

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All:- Holy communion in the RCC church of Jesus christ is a GIFT the greek word is EUCHARIST which means Thanks. We give Thanks to God for the gift of His sons life in converting us to His image and likeness if we, believe and partake worthily with reverence."I live in Him who lives in Me"Satan does not want you to partake of this Gift so he camoflauges it with deceit in the various ways, some call cannabalistic,not possible ect."There are none so blind who can't see, but won't see."
---Mic on 10/15/08


PART SIX:
In the context, looking at what Paul was talking about, it has everything to do with my attitude to my brother in the Lord.

Please do not take my word for it. Read chapter 11 and 13 together as a whole the way Paul intended it
---Bruce5656 on 10/14/08


The answer is in verse 29 "not discerning the Lord's body" Discerning (thoroughly separating) that the body and blood of Jesus was for our healing and forgiveness. The unworthiness in this Scripture is not referring to our sin because that is the very thing that is taken care of by the blood.
---john on 10/30/07


Bruce-(His retelling of the Lord's Supper is a reminder that we all have the sacrifice of Jesus as our common bond.) Also, because he had already told them about the Lord's Supper in 1 Cor 10:16 " The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because the loaf of bread ia one,we, though many, are one body, for we all partake of one loaf."
---Ruben on 9/3/06


Mrs Morgan - ("Holy communion represents a person being a part of Christ") -- Just where did you get that falsehood from? Communion is done in remembrance of Jesus' broken body on the Cross and His blood that He shed on the Cross.
---Helen_5378 on 9/1/06




Bruce-(PART NINE:Paul Returns To His Original Subject their so-called Lords Supper 33-34 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation) To remind them what the Lord had told him V23" For I received from the Lord what I passed on to you: The Lord Jesus the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he given thanks, he broke it and said,:THIS IS MY BODY"
---Ruben on 9/1/06


Bruce-(PART EIGHT:The Consequences Of Such Disregard For The Body (Church) The Need To Examine Ones Attitude Towards His Brother And Sister:) Sorry Bruce it is not the Body of the Church Paul is talking about the Body of Christ. Paul can say verse before that they did not recognizing that it is the Body of Christ and therefore they get sick and fall asleep "If you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man you will not have life in you." John 6:53
---Ruben on 9/1/06


Bruce-(The Problem Restated:
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. ) "It reads Anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself."
---Ruben on 9/1/06


Bruce-(PART TWO:
His retelling of the Lord's Supper is a reminder that we all have the sacrifice of Jesus as our common bond. But, as important as those verse (23-26) are, (for they tell us in detail just what the Lord's Supper is and what the point of the Lord's Supper is), it is brought up as an illustration. ) Bruce, they were gathering together for the Lords Supper, it was not a illustration.
---Ruben on 9/1/06


Bruce-(John and Ruben,
The question is not what does verses 23-26 mean. Clearly they are about the true "Lord's Supper". This was something the Corinthians were abusing. The question was, what does it mean to partake unworthily?) By abusing it. you just said it.
---Ruben on 9/1/06




Bruce;That was an extremely good "treatise" on Paul and communion.Paul and Luke wrote about continuing this practice,but neither one was in the "upper room" Matthew,John,Peter,Jude or James (attendees)do not mention it. Why do you think this is so?
---1st_cliff on 9/1/06


In order to Partake Of the B& B of Our Saviour we Must First be in the state of Grace;that means we cannot be in Sin,if we are Then we are unworthily eating to our own condemnation.So one HAS to go to Confession To be absolved of our sins then only will we be pleasing to God& get enhanced Graces to keep us sin free.SIN IS NOT WASHED away by Jesus Blood in The reception of the Holy Eucharist Only Conrtition absolves SIN.It's not a case of sin now & pay later.Recieving Jesus in Sin Is sacreligious.
---Emcee on 9/1/06


Helen_5378 , A sinner/backslidder must be saved(Jesus Blood Washed)first, they must repent, in order to partake in this Holy Event, this is God's Word. Did you read my post? Holy Communion represents a person being a part of Christ, and we can't be part of Him if we are a sinner/backslidder, that would be blashphemy. Ministers should first lead people into repentance, before they partake in Holy Communion, some ministers make this very clear. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/1/06


Mrs Morgan - ("Sinners/backsliders are not to partake in holy communion") -- What on earth makes you think that someone who is backslidden would want to partake in communion let alone want to be at church? A person who is backslidden no longer wants the things of God.
---Helen_5378 on 9/1/06


We (Christians) should not take communion unworthily, i.e. when we are unworthy at the time. This means, I believe, that when we are feeling bitter about someone, we have unforgiveness in our hearts etc. Non-Christians should not take it at all, but many do because most people who go to church regularly DO consider themselves to be Christians and, therefore, do not understand the difference.
---f.f. on 9/1/06


PART ONE:

John and Ruben,
The question is not what does verses 23-26 mean. Clearly they are about the true "Lord's Supper". This was something the Corinthians were abusing. The question was, what does it mean to partake unworthily?

The book of I Cor. is not a random collection of advice. It follows a specific train of thought. In chapters 11 and 12 Paul is dealing with the disunity in the body.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


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PART TWO:

His retelling of the Lord's Supper is a reminder that we all have the sacrifice of Jesus as our common bond. But, as important as those verse (23-26) are, (for they tell us in detail just what the Lord's Supper is and what the point of the Lord's Supper is), it is brought up as an illustration.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART THREE:

For any one interested, I offer this synopsis of I Cor 11:!7-13:13

11:17a The Introduction:
Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not,

What is this? This is the problem Paul wants to address.

vv17b-22 The Problem Is Stated:

that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse when ye come together in the church, there be divisions among you
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART FOUR:

They called their get-to-gether the Lords Supper. Paul said they were not partaking in the Lords Supper at all. How could it be when they showed such utter disregard for each other?

v20 When ye come together this is not to eat the Lord's supper
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART FIVE:

v 21 Apparently everyone brought food that was intended to be shared or at least that they were to wait for every one to come. But they were not sharing. Some were eating while others sat there and watched. Some were even getting drunk!

v22 The Accusation

despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not?
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


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PART SIX:

**These verses are clearly about what we understand to be the Lords Supper. There is no question or dispute about this. Paul offers this instruction to remind them that we are the body because of the sacrifice of Jesus. Because of His broken body and shed blood. What right do we, who have been bought with such a price have to disparage a brother or sister?**

23-26 THE TRUE MEANING OF THE LORDS SUPPER
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART SEVEN:
Back To The Problem

The Caution:

v27-28 wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord

The Problem Restated:

29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

See chapter 12 for a further explanation of the Lords body of which He is the head.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART EIGHT:

The Consequences Of Such Disregard For The Body (Church)

30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

The Need To Examine Ones Attitude Towards His Brother And Sister:

31-32 For if we would judge ourselvesthat we should not be condemned with the world.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART NINE:

Paul Returns To His Original Subject their so-called Lords Supper

33-34 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation.

Chapter 12 is an in depth discussion of the nature of the unity in the body we are the members and Jesus is the head. WE are his body.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


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PART TEN:
1 Corinthians 12:25-27 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

and Chapter 13 defines just what true love for each other is.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


john , Do you not know what Holy Communion is? It is very serious. It represents eating the Flesh and the Blood of Jesus, being a Part of Him a sinner/backslidder is not a part of Christ, that would be called Blashphemy. Please read(1 Corinthians 11:27-30). --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


Mrs.Morgan. Where do you see that sinners and backsliders are not to partake of the Lord's supper? Did not Jesus Himself call all sinners to partake of Him? Did He not even offer it to Judas on the night He was betrayed? Please show how you come to such a harsh statement that the very people who need Him most are not allowed to come.
---john on 8/31/06


Steve. I agree that communion is a very serious matter. Please read John 6. He invited all to partake of Him. We all need Him. Not just the "good" people but even more the ones who need to be cleansed. And what a great place to come for cleansing. Are you sure you shouldn't be partaking when Jesus Himself invited you?
---john on 8/31/06


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John ... Surely the bodies are different.
The broken body, as is represented during the communion celebration, was Jesus' human body.
The church was then in the future ... but can be called His body because He is present in it.
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/31/06


bruce-(you will see that Paul's subject is not the Lord's supper) " Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
---Ruben on 8/31/06


To think that the body referred to in lCor. 11 is referring to the church(us) is not in line with " this is my body (not the church here) broken for you" and this is my blood (again not the church) shed for you" If the body referred to here was the church what would the blood be? These verses are speaking of Christ's body and blood that He sacrificed and it is His body that we are to discern.
---john on 8/31/06


, i believe that communion is a serious matter, and should be reserved for truly serious believers. i refuse to participate in sunday morning communion, as it invites everyone to partake.
---steve on 8/31/06


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This is plain and simple sinner's/backslidder's(those with unrepentant sins) are not to partake in Holy Communion, or they are drinking sickness and death, the Word states this plainly, But, of course some will always try to De-Spiritualize this. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 8/31/06


My part six below should have said read 11 through 13 not 11 and 13.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


Please allow me to point out that the word is UNWORTHILY not UNWORTHY. "Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord." There is of course a big difference
---mima on 8/31/06


PART ONE:
Crystal,
One of the principle issues Paul had to deal with in Corinth was the divisive nature of the body there. This subject is introduced in ch 1:11 The passage that is so often read at a communion service is just a part of the whole discussion. There is much to be learned about the Lords supper when read on its own but to really understand what Paul was saying you must take it in its context.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


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PART TWO:
Chapters 11-13 should be read as a whole if you want to understand this. Starting in I Cor 11:20 through to v 34, you will see that Paul's subject is not the Lord's supper but rather how the Corinthians were treating each other (with contempt and lack of love.) Chapter 12 deals with the nature of the interdependent body of believers and chapter 13 demonstrates what love really is.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART THREE;
This is all about recognizing that we are one in Christ and we must not show any favoritism or distain anyone who is not of our social class or group of friends. When they came together to eat what they called the "Lord's Supper" (think pot luck with a communion service at the end) they were gathering in their cliques, not waiting for others to show up, coming drunk, not sharing with the poorer ones.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART FOUR;
To "discern the Lord's body" is to understand how our relationship with each other is all tied up in our common membership in His body. As mentioned, in chapter 12 Paul goes into this relationship in great detail.
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


PART FIVE:
So, to eat and drink unworthily, not discerning the Lords body, has nothing to do with the method or the timing of the communion service. It has nothing to do with examining ones self to see it there is some un-confessed sin (although there is no better time to give that some reflection than at a communion service.)
---Bruce5656 on 8/31/06


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