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Did Paul Have A Choice

"And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome."
After considering this verse: you believe it was possible Paul would NOT go to Rome?

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Eloy, the obedience and disobedience of man, God already knew before they made a choice. "For I know the things that come into your mind, everyone of them" (Ez. 11:5). Everything is ordained from the foundation of the world. God is not taken by surprise every time man disobeys. He is Omniscient knowing everything. Before Jonah disobeyed God already knew he would. He knew Jonah would flee from Him. Already knew He would sent out a great wind on the sea and cause Jonah to obey. you make is sound as if God took matters into His hands because suddenly He found out Jonah disobeyed His commands. But all is known to God already. Don't speak of God as if He was human, living in time. He knows the beginning and the end of His plan.
---Mark_V. on 2/23/12


Maybe he could have sent his wicked body to Rome and left his willing Spirit in Jerusalem or vice versa.
---barb on 2/22/12


Strongaxe, there was a need for Christ Jesus to die. It was an agreement between the Godhead before the foundation of the world.
For we are told that Christ was""Foreknown indeed as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world' (1 Peter 1:20). Of course in His humanity, just like any of us, when His time came, He didn't want to die. But freely gave His life. He was not forced to give it, He was always obedient to the Father, the reason no sin was found in Him.
---Mark_V. on 2/22/12


Cluny:

I meant that there would have been no need for Jesus to die. Clearly he didn't want to do so, based on his prayer at Gethsemane.

(In fact, without death, there would have been no need for anyone to else to die either, for any reason).
---StrongAxe on 2/20/12


\\ and no need for Jesus to die.
---StrongAxe on 2/18/12\\

There was never a "need" for Jesus to die.

God is totally free and unbound by "necessity", this is how He CHOSE to save us.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/19/12




catherine:

If we could not disobey a direct order from God, then Adam could not have disobeyed God's order not to eat from the Tree, and there would have been no Fall, and no need for Jesus to die.
---StrongAxe on 2/18/12


Yes, Jonah went another way, and paid the consquences, then afterward he eventually did what God said. That is how it works, God instructs, and if we refuse, then there are consequences, sometimes whole lands of people will be subjected to wrath: then whenever the person is ready to listen, then the detruction will be turned off and the blessing fountain turned on. It is our choice, what do we want? goodness or crap in our lives? and in everything we touch. Christ or sin, life or death. I will not bless nor honor any evil person whom hurts my children, says the Lord: Do you want goodness, then bless the Christian: and if you want plagues and hell in your life, then keep hurting my Christian.
---Eloy on 2/17/12


Yes, Jonah went another way, and paid the consequences, then afterward he eventually did what God said. That is how it works, God instructs, and if we refuse, then there are consequences, sometimes whole lands of people will be subjected to wrath: then whenever the person is ready to listen, then the destruction will be turned off and the blessing fountain turned on. It is our choice, what do we want? goodness or crap in our lives? and in everything we touch. Christ or sin, life or death. I will not bless nor honor any evil person whom hurts my children, says the Lord: Do you want goodness, then bless the Christian: and if you want plagues and hell in your life, then keep hurting my Christian.
---Eloy on 2/17/12


Do you really believe that Gods salvation plan only was able to go into effect becauwe 2000 years ago Judas by his own free will decided to give jesus over to be crucified? In other words, our salvation is based upon Judas FREE WILL to give Jesus over to be crucified?
---steve on 2/17/12


Did Paul have free will...even concerning his salvation, let alone the rest of his life?

He answers the question himself in Acts 26:19 where he explains that "...I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven" when describing his conversion experience.

There can be no disobedience where there is no free will. Paul did not say he "fulfilled" the heavenly vision, but rather that he "obeyed."
---steve on 10/31/10




God knows everything and yet we are said to have free choice...God knows what you will do, but you don't until you decide and act..
paradox between free will vs. predestination
---Fred on 2/7/08


I looked at the scripture in Acts. And I will stand by my original answer. No, Paul had no choice and by him being a great, strong, man of God would never say no to Jesus Christ. When one is truly saved, God puts these desires in you to want to obey Him at all cost. Can not help it. Ofcourse here comes Satan and he will always work at getting you to draw back. And by being truly aware of this in itself will give you holy determination to obey God.
---catherine on 2/7/08


The Lord knew Paul would submit to his will beforehand. I feel Paul had that fire burning in him, as we all should as Christians. God knows all of our hearts as well as he knew Paul's heart. We, as Christians should strive and be willing to submit to God's will in our lives. We should pray for guidance, walk in the Holy Spirit and give our hearts willingly into submission to God's will. This also means we will have to throw away our lives for Jesus' sake
---Mike on 2/6/08


The answer is NO. Paul could not disobey God. God puts that in a few chosen people that He plans to use mightly. We can not disobey a direct order from God. NEVER!
---catherine on 1/31/08


It's possible, but remember what happened to Jonah?
Paul was dealt with in much the same way when he was knocked down on the damascus road.
The question is not answerable for any down here because it would force us to assume the mind of God and how he would deal with Paul if he rebelled which clearly he didn't.
---Pharisee on 1/31/08


Where is this verse located?
---Katie on 6/20/07


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No.
Paul considered himself a prisoner (bounded captive) of Jesus Christ. That term acknowledges and confirms that He willing submitted his will to Christ, as a result his actions were ordained and guided. The word must in this verse means - necessary (as binding) - and was spoken by The LORD.
The Fathers word will not return to Him void.
---josef on 9/7/06


I heard of a missionary who after seeing a leapor colony, was so overcome with comapssion, that he left the other missionaries and lived with these people. He also became a leapor, but had won these people to the Lord. Now who in their own earthly flesh would do that. God must have prepared this man for so many years to care nothing of this world, or the things of this world to give him a heart that the man WANTED to do that.
---kathr4453 on 9/2/06


It says in Ephesians that we "Born Again Christians" walk in the works prepared from the foundation of the world.
It says in Rev; Blessed are those who die in the Lord from here-on, who have rested from their own works, and the works of God do follow. Something like that. in otherwords, those who are being prepared by God, He has a plan for you, and He will prepare you to walk in these works. Example - Next
---kathr4453 on 9/2/06


Many will say, haven't we done this or that, and the Lord will say,"I never Knew You" "Only those who do the Will of the Father".
How do you know God's will,or even have a heart to do His Will.
The secret:Romans 12:
Present yourselves a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service, and be not conformed to this world, but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind "so that you may know the perfect and acceptable Will of God."
---kathr4453 on 9/2/06


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jesus had already decided, just as GOD had with jonah, paul may have found himself somewhere he didn,t want to be but he would have submitted to jesus just as jonah did to God.
---fhoma6579 on 9/2/06


Acts23:11.We are all given choices. To obey or not was Paul's choice. I think he could have rebelled just like we can.
---john on 9/1/06


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