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How do you know if it is God telling you to do something or Satan trying to confuse you and cause you to get off track and out of God's best for your life?

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 ---Lee on 9/7/06
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Lee, try the spirits to see if they are of God or the devil. The way you do that is prayer and reading and learning scripture. Make sure all you do lines up with scripture.
---shira_9639 on 8/11/07

But Eloy, you don't believe in Once Saved always saved. What you are saying is that others can lose their salvation, but not you. You have arrived, is what Billy is saying. Your body is still corruptable and you still sin because you do that all the time even with your actions to others. Your words are very self-righteous. Bible speaks against that too.
---lee_1 on 10/1/06

1/ Eloy, are you sure you are a Bible translator? According to easily verifiable sources, the Bible you are translating is so far removed from the ORIGINAL that this IS NOT even an issue to serious biblical scholars. The Bible you are translating IS NOT EVEN A COPY OF A COPY, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, etc. Do you get the point? If you and Tyndale can produce ORIGINAL GREEK MANUSCRIPTS, then both of you will have solved the MYSTERY surrounding the whereabouts of the original Bible!
---I_AM_I on 9/30/06

..billy, How do I feel being washed in the blood and born-again and sanctified and filled to overflowing with the Holy Spirit. To use the Lord's own words to me, it is like taking the best thing that has ever happened to you and then multiplying that times 1000 times, and that is what it is.
---Eloy on 9/11/06

OK Eloy, Theres nothing more that you need, you have arrived, youve apprehended Christs full inheritance. There is nothing more that you need. WOOO, Eloy, I didnt know that someone could be glorified in there corruptible flesh. Maybe that you want even have to die, means that you have reached the mark of the prize of the high calling of God, in Christ Jesus. How does it fell Bro. because ive never met anyone thats accomplished it all.
---Billy on 9/11/06

I AM I, The Holy Spirit is God. The soul is not the mind nor the spirit, they are separate. Each person is made up of a body, which is the building or flesh; a spirit, which is the breath or aspiration; and a soul, which is the life or anima. The soul can be living or dead. When one dies the spirit leaves the body and soul, and goes back to God. The body and soul remain behind on earth, until that time that the Lord will call for the dead to rise. (Mark 12:30; Acts 17:25; I Thess. 5:23; Hebrews 4:12).
---Eloy on 9/11/06

..billy, I don't spiritualize away my redemption or born-again experience from God, nor do I project it as something to happen after death, but a very real and now occurence, a daily living inside of Christ and Christ daily living inside of me.
---Eloy on 9/11/06

Eloy, Yes we are born again, in down payment form. We dont get the fullness of our inheritance, UNTIL THE REDEMPTION OF THE PURCHASED POSSESSION. We must be born again of the water and of the spirit. Your not seeing the spiritual side of this.
---Billy on 9/10/06

billy ezek 14:9 means this. God lets you deceive yourself, if you continue in your sin and continue choosing your own way not wanting Gods way and refuse to listen to his plan for your life. So you continue to walk in your own way, the more you do, the less you can hear Gods voice and so you make a bad choice and deceive yourself.
---eliza4969 on 9/10/06

Billy & Eloy,
Your discussion on the trinity (body, soul and spirit) sounds interesting. Genesis says man became a living or conscious being after receiving the breath of life or vital life force. How does mind fit into your trinity? Please explain the terms and indicate which one is the highest aspect or essence of God.
---I_AM_I on 9/10/06

...billy, "And fear not him who destroys the body, but fear me who will destroy the body and soul into hell."
---Eloy on 9/10/06

...billy, not so. I am truly born-again right now, and not at some later date. Now is the accepted time of Salvation. Harden not your heart, as they did when they provoked me in the provocation in the wilderness. For there they did provoke me to anger and I swore in my wrath that they would not enter into my rest, save the youth and younger. I am coming for the soul made new, one without spot nor wrinkle, wherefore make you a new heart and a new spirit within you.
---Eloy on 9/10/06

greetings,for stevenq,i am not sure you have directed your comments to the correct person .if you are making comment on something ive said recall my memory ,ive been busy here.thanks for reply,reply again
---earl on 9/9/06

Excuse me, I ment Earl, no problem brother, I love you man!!

---Billy on 9/9/06

Eloy, no problem, Love you brother,

---Billy on 9/9/06

Eloy, Rev 20:4-6 If you read this well, this takes place after the first resurrection. And also it speaks of souls, not spirits, "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded, etc.,etc.". And verse 5 lets us know that it is the first resurrection. Were still in part, and only till THE REDEMPTION OF THE PURCHASED POSSESSION are we truley born again.
---Billy on 9/9/06

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Eloy, the spirit of the born again believer, and sinner never die. At death, the spirit goes back to the Father, but the body and soul die. Luke 23:46 Jesus said, into thy hands I commend my spirit. But why dont you tell me where his soul went. His soul we to the grave, yes Jesus truley died and was dead for three days. The spirit in man is the the same breath that God breathed into Adams nostrils, and Its called the spirit of life.
---Billy on 9/9/06

..billy, The spirit within the born-again never dies. Jesus said: "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believes in me, though he were dead, yet he will live. And whosoever lives and believes in me will never die." John 11:25,26. Please read Revelation 20:4-6.
---Eloy on 9/9/06

Earl: the rest were perplexed, confused why Easter wasn't preached. Most preachers (be it Catholic, Protestant, evangelicals, Baptists) are afraid to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through them when sorely needed. They depend on tradition, planned sermons from the head of their particular denominations. They use concordances, novels, other interpretations, bible dictionaries, and other reference books to prepare their sermons. They get so caught up in the worldly interpretations that they fail.
---Steveng on 9/8/06

Earl: The pastor of a Lutheran church had an out of town emergency the Suday before Easter. He ask me to preach the sermon he prepared. That Sunday morning, I stood up in front of the congregation. They were expecting me to preach about Easter. That was their mindset year in and year out. But the Holy Spirit had something else in mind to preach about gossip in which 90% of the church was involved. Only a handful of the 300 understood
---Steveng on 9/8/06

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greetings,for billy ,ive read your statement but i was going a different direction with it in that the parallel was almost identical in that the figures were increased in the latter descriptions.thanks
---earl on 9/8/06

greetings,in light of the on going stray conversations ,james said God does not light of this statement ,God is not one who would cause his children to stumble.please remember what once man knew as fact ,he now knows as enlarged 'truth' with jesus' revelation to the it not true that even a loving human father will not cause their child to become hurt intentionally by what the father did?thanks
---earl on 9/8/06

(3). Linda, Death has been defeated in part, now Christ has to defeat death within each one of us, and this doesnt take place fully, till THE REDEMPTION OF THE PURCHASED POSSESSION, and this is the resurrection of the dead.
---Billy on 9/8/06

(2). This is where most people think that the ten second sinners prayer puts death under there feet and Christs full rewards have been given to them. What ever happened to Gal 2 :20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. People dont understand that salvation is a life long walk that says, he that indures to the end the same shall be saved.
---Billy on 9/8/06

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First you have to let us know who is God and who is Satan. Are you talking about god, God or GOD (THE ONE AND ONLY UNIVERSAL LIFE)?
---I_AM_I on 9/8/06

(1). Linda6563, Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Linda, weve only received His promises in down payment form. So have we obtained victory over death just because Jesus has already done it? NO! !
---Billy on 9/8/06

Notice what took place before that, Billy. Those people were in idolatry. I have heard it like this: God will take your enemies but He will not take any friends you are not willing to give up. That includes any "idol" doctrines and traditions we are unwilling to let go of. In those cases, you have the choice to accept the truth or believe the lie. It may seem like God has deceived you but that is not the case. You have chosen the lie over the truth. God won't force your will.
---Linda6563 on 9/8/06

This is the purpose for the renewing of the mind because to be carnally minded IS death. It is all about Him and His work, not us and ours. The carnal mind is dealt with by the revelation of the person and work of Christ. Which do you believe is more powerful? The life of Christ that has been imparted to you or the death caused by sin that has been taken away by the Lamb of God? The gospel works effectually in them that believe.
---Linda6563 on 9/8/06

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"Linda, you say that the devil is destroyed, so where does this leave death?"

Under His feet. Death is swallowed up in victory. Victory is not an event. Victory is a Man called Jesus who tasted death for every man and rose again to be called both Lord and Christ. The sting of death is sin. Jesus became sin with our sin and the death He died was once for all and He will never die again.
---Linda6563 on 9/8/06

Eliza4969,Comment on this scripture.

Ezek 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I THE LORD HAVE DECEIVED THAT PROPHET, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
---Billy on 9/8/06

Linda6563, I dont consider myself as being a martyr for this belief. I had menchened casting stones just to be funny, LOL, and nothing more. Linda, you say that the devil is destroyed, so where does this leave death?
Earl, yes ive read chapters before an after the ones ive quoted. If you think that ive missed the point that these two scriptures dont prove Gods sovereignty in all things, then help me to see the light.
---Billy on 9/8/06

Linda6563 Amen Sister!
---Bruce5656 on 9/8/06

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greetings,for does one 'test' the spirits, your reply states that satan is exceptional at deception and miracles to decieve the elite and the complete reading of the bible gives a solid foundation for not we all know of many ,many people who have established themselves as religious leaders by Gods calling who have failed their mission and supposively been led away?would this mean that man can blame satan for his evil and not himself?thanks for your reply
---earl on 9/8/06

I know the scripture that says satan disguises himself as an angel of light but please explain to me how can he do anything good there is no good in him at all so how can he do anything good?
---eliza4969 on 9/8/06

Billy God does not deceive us!
---eliza4969 on 9/8/06

"My sheep know my voice, and a stranger they will not follow." Study the scriptures and know what they mean, for the devil tells them in twisted ways in order to lead astray. The deceiver and tempter's voice has absolutely no glory, whereas God's voice is full of glory. For example, if my enemy would tell me he loves me, I would know then that it was vain and that he was plotting some evil or harm; but if my friend would tell me the samething, then I would know that it was a blessing.
---Eloy on 9/8/06

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Satan is a lier and the truth is not in him. He may quote scripture however you can be sure there is a twist. Anything you hear that causes you to rationalize disobedience to God in the slightest way is not from the Father. Example, "Give to him that asketh thee." (Notice, no conditions). Satan's twist, "But God gave you common sense, he wants you to try the spirit of the one asking you. He expects you to be a good steward." Get my point?
---josef on 9/8/06

greetings,for billy ,good parallel.did you finish reading them both?
---earl on 9/7/06

Billy, I know you think you are being martyred for this belief, but I tell you the truth that Jesus destroyed him that had the power of death, that is, the devil. I believe that and believe He bore confusion and the anxiety ridden mind. That works effectually in me and puts an effective end to any voice but His. His sheep hear His voice and not the voice of a stranger. We are tempted when we are drawn away of our own lusts and enticed, not when God throws the devil at us.
---Linda6563 on 9/7/06

We have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Confusion is the very opposite of peace but, praise God, Jesus bore our confusion that we may bear the mind of Christ. What an exchange!
---Linda6563 on 9/7/06

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Christ and Him crucified is enough to persuade me. I have heard some far out things in my Christian life, but this is the most far out. Sure, we can learn some things from those temptations and we can not listen and feel, but God is not the author of any of it. He is the author of peace. If He was the author of the confusion, then we would not be able to trust Him to author peace.
---Linda6563 on 9/7/06

Now why would Father God tell us to resist something HE gave permission to happen to us? That sounds counterproductive at best. We could learn from the examples He has given us if we would (1 Cor.10:6,11) Satan is against the purpose of God, not for it, and God Himself never tempts man with evil (James 1:13,14). To say that God permits the adversary to accuse and tempt is to portray our heavenly Father as so inept that He would have to revert to the enemy to persuade us of His love.
---Linda6563 on 9/7/06

Heb 1:1 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Jam 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Eph 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.
---Linda6563 on 9/7/06

Earl: It's commanded to TEST the spirits to see if it's from God or from Satan. Satan leads you away from God. The way to know is to read the entire bible giving you a solid spiritual foundation and, therefor, a closer relationship with God.
Rebecca: Be careful about what you say. If you believe what you said, you will trapped in the claws of the antichrist who will perform good miracles to deceive even the elite. Satan DOES good if it leads you away from God.
---Steveng on 9/7/06

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(4). Weather its God or Satan talking, its all after the counsel of HIS [Gods] own will.
---Billy on 9/7/06

(3). Here are the scriptures

2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he ["The Lord."] moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

OK, im ready for the borough of stones to be thrown at me.......
---Billy on 9/7/06

(2). I know that this is going to get everyones feathers ruffled, but itll only hurt a little bit, Ha Ha Ha. OK, so im not saying that if God has ordained things to be, that were not to try to keep from falling into a trap. God put the circumstance there for us to learn from, but weather we sink or swim is in Gods hands. If this isnt true, then let me ask who provoked King David to numbering the children of Israel, 1. God, or 2. Satan
---Billy on 9/7/06

greetings ,again, please ,the question is how do you know who is doing the talking?
---earl on 9/7/06

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Great point Alan, my good friend used to say "self deception is the cruelest deception of all."
---Pharisee on 9/7/06

(1). First Of all I believe that God is all Sovereign. If Satan or any evil spirit talkes to us, its by Gods hand that this is to happen. Eph 1:11, God works ALL THINGS after the counsel of his own will. And for us to realize if this is an evil spirit, or the spirit of God, is in Gods hands alone. If God has given some the ability to discern spirits, then this has been ordained by God. So also if we are to be deceived, God has deceived us.
---Billy on 9/7/06

The meaning of the word angel is messenger.
We recieve messages from both fallen and Holy angels. Fallen angels attempt to disguise themselves as a still small voice quite often.
I'd say you need to regain your confidence in the Holy Spirit, and this is best done by seeking no one else but Jesus.
Let the belly growl, let the news go unwatched, disallow all pleasure and comfort; shut down as much as you can till you hear from God, he won't forsake you.
---Pharisee on 9/7/06

There's safety in a multitude of counselers.
It is true in a believer's life that this truth can fail us.
Look at Job. His friends just couldn't believe he was afflicted as an innocent man.
For the most part our reliance has be on God, and his word. God won't fail to let you know, but this will come in his time and his way. Confess your need and "wear your eyes out" looking for the answer.
---Pharisee on 9/7/06

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I think the greater danger is "wishful thinking"
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/7/06

Simple, Satan and I are not on talking terms.
---Bruce5656 on 9/7/06

Lee, (1 John 4:1)(1 Tim 4:1,2).
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/7/06

greetings,this is the very reason why jesus saved a world that was lost,to prevent fear of the unknown and or be misguided as were adam and now stands alone at judgement. no one will be permitted to say i was misled by unseen forces i could not see.has not man for over 2000 yrs.been trying to exterminate evil spirits with mortal thinking?would the Father tell someone something who is so confused as to who is telling it?
---earl on 9/7/06

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Satan won't tell you to do anything good. he won't tell you to go and pray for someone or something like that. And God won't tell you to do anything bad. So it all depends on what you are told to do.
---Rebecca_D on 9/7/06

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