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I Was Speaking In Tongues

I have never spoke in tounges before, except once that I've known of. My Aunt told me that I was speaking it the other night. What does this mean for me?

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Whisper: Not to be disrespectful, but: Huh?

What is the meaning to the first part of your post?
---sue on 12/8/07


whisper - Could it be that speaking in tongues is simply another means to worshiping the Lord emotionally? Such experience can provide one with a much needed catharsis.

It has been my observation that many of these people that speak in tongues have a multitude of problems and often stressed out.
---lee on 12/7/07


Becca,
If you speak in tongues it is the Spirit making intercession to the Lord for you. The Spirit will reveal to you what the Lord shows it.
Scripture rightly divided to glorify Jesus.
The spiritual things in the word among other things such as pointing out the blasphemy of those who misuse scripture.
It is different from prophesying in tongues.
It also is very real.
Frank
---Frank on 12/7/07


Lionel:: I agree as the Utility of its use is lost, after its FIRST use at Pentacost.Difference being others understood .Here no one understands the Gutteral sayings not even the The UTTERER.Gods ways are clear & concise, as in His word.
---Emcee on 12/7/07


Lionel:: I agree as the Utility of its use is lost, after its FIRST use at Pentacost.Difference being others understood .Here no one understands the Gutteral sayings not even the The UTTERER.Gods ways are clear & concise, as in His word.
---Emcee on 12/7/07




Tongues:GLOSSALIA....Ya mida cana rei la sempre ta nos ya seliba care me chinameris ca donai le marena salaba cora nemira santa.

Who knows what we speak when we speak in tongues, for we speak in the tongues, of both men and of ANGELS.......sometimes with groanings, which cannot be uttered but GOD understands it all.
---Whisper on 12/7/07


First of all I want the record to show that I believe in the gift of tongues in the early church.
I believe that it{tongues}has been done away with.

I do not believe that the tongue movement today is the same as in the early church.
---lionel on 12/6/07


In reply to speaking in tongues. I Corinthians ch 12. (spiritual gifts)
---jacka6987 on 12/6/07


Jesus says that speaking with new tongues is a sign that will follow those who believe:

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
---Wilmarth on 11/25/06


Boob - *Speaking in tongues????Nonsense. Thats babbling nonsensical language*

1 Cor. 14:23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds?

Apparently the verse is also true of the unbelievers today as was then.
---lee1538 on 11/24/06




Geoff - *Should we be speaking mysteries which no one understands or should we be seeking edification & to edify?*

12:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church.

I think that we should seek to build up the church more so than ourselves as love for others is paramount in the life of the Christian. That is the msg of chapter 13.
---lee1538 on 11/23/06


Geoff,
Someone always benefits from speaking in tongues.
1Corinthians 14:4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
However, if someone speaks in tongues, and an interpretation is given, then everyone benefits! V 5. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified. Even if no interpretation is given, the person praying edifies themself.
---Danny on 11/23/06


Speaking in tongues????Nonsense. Thats babbling nonsensical language. Speaking tongues means speaking known languages or foreign known languages. Not mumbo jumbo as some believe it to be. islom blumsumbo cumbalacamba samlilolokonaia...what utter nonsense.
---bob on 11/23/06


Lee1538 said "if you are speaking mysteries then these kinds of things may be too much for human understanding." That's exactly my point.

Should we be speaking mysteries which no one understands or should we be seeking edification & to edify?

Notice v4 says that the person speaking an unknown tongue will be intelligently edified. Look up edify in the dictionary.
---Geoff on 11/22/06


Geoff - * if I prayed in tongues I would 1st be quiet & look around for an interpreter or ask God for interpretation before blurting out whatever comes out, as I have been falsely instructed by charismatics...

If the Spirit gives you such utterance in prayer, He will also give you the interpretation if you request it, but if you are speaking mysteries then these kinds of things may be too much for human understanding.

Granted that some charismatic meetings are an embarrassment.
---lee1538 on 11/21/06


Lee1538, if I prayed in tongues I would 1st be quiet & look around for an interpreter or ask God for interpretation before blurting out whatever comes out, as I have been falsely instructed by charismatics-1 Cor 14:13,27-28,32. The SDA Church supports biblical use of tongues

Sam, remember "1 Cor 14:14 "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful."
In 1 Cor 13:1, if you speak & no one benefits, you're only making NOISE
---Geoff on 11/20/06


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Geoff - I think that you really need to be careful as if you are filled with the Holy Spirit and find yourself praying in tongues that the experience may drive you deeper into the study of the Bible - my observation - and you may not be able to stay within the SDA church as they often view such experiences as demonic.
---lee1538 on 11/20/06


Geoff, yes Paul does say that if you pray in an unknown tongue, you should pray for interpretation. He is talking about if you pray in front of church. The problem is that everyone was praying in tongues at one time and there was confusion in the church of Corinth, so he said that only a few should speak at a time, and it should be interpreted.
---sam on 11/19/06


1Cor13:1 Should be translated. Though I speak about men, and what they do, and about angels and what they do, in my own native language, but dont have love for whom Im speaking etc. Now in Acts The word {UNKNOWN} as in "unknown" tongue is an added word by
translators.It is talking about dealing with people who understand the native language and those that dont, and how to deal with them. Better to speak 5 words in a tongue they understand tha 10,000 words they dont understand.
---Toby on 11/19/06


Sam, have you noticed that unknown tongues is discouraged in preference for understanding & edification. The whole chapter, 1 Cor 14 emphasizes this=v1, 3-6, 12-13, 15, 19-20, 24. If your "understanding is unfruitful" the why pray that way? Paul says it is best to do both together, speak in tongues & understnd-v15.
---Geoff on 11/18/06


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Geoff...try reading the book of Acts about speaking in unknown tongues...it has plenty of examples and you don't seem to know about that book. As for tongues of angels or heavenly languages that Paul talks about in the verse I gave you, Rom 8:26 talks about how the spirit prays for us. Jude 1:20-21 talks about praying in the Holy Spirit (or tongues). 1 Corinthians 14:14 "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, MY SPIRIT PRAYETH, but my understanding is unfruitful."
---sam on 11/17/06


Sam, where do you get these definitions? If they're not from the Bible, are they snatched from thin air?

Texts please?
Tongues of men = an unknown human language???
Tongues of angels = talking directly to God???
---Geoff on 11/17/06


Geoff...better go back and read the previous chapter. This is Paul talking.
1 Corinthians 13:1 "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels.." Tongues of men is when you speak an unknown human language (one you never studied). Tongues of angels in talking directly to God.
---sam on 11/17/06


(1.)Christian's need to be careful, about the issue of the "prayer tongue" or "tongues" in general. There is a True "Prayer Tongue", But those who say they can pray in tongues, when ever they please, Beware of them! The Holy Spirit will ONLY speak through a sanctified tongue, and He is always in control, not man.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06


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(2.)Many go into fanaticism, and my minister said they are speaking either their own tongues, or demonic "foreign tongues" have entered. Christians cant walk in deceit, and still be speaking in Gods tongues, It just wont work! The devil counterfeits everything of God, satan is subtle(thats how he often works, undercover)(Gen. 3:1), and has deceived many.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06


(3.)God wants His True people to experience His True tongues,But the Churches needs godly wisdom(godly discernment),must be able to SEPARATE THE SPIRITS,or else,look out!Disaster! Christians that claim that the Holy Spirit is "speaking through them",better make sure it's the Real Holy Spirit!God is NOT the author of confusion.A True child of God, Walking in the Spirit has nothing to fear in regard to demonic "foreign spirits" speaking through them.God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06


Donna, 1 Cor 14, nor the entire Bible doesn't say "there are two different types of tongues." There are diversities of gifts-1 Cor 12:4. There is only the true gift & the counterfeit because there is only One Holy Spirit-1 Cor 12:1-4.

Now if when you spoke no one was edified then that was abusing the gift for that's not how it is to be used-1 Cor 14:16-17, 27-33.
---Geoff on 11/17/06


Mike,
The problem with your theory is that there is no working up with music or anything else necessary to pray in the Spirit - in tongues. I can pray in tongues in chruch. I can pray in tongues at home or in my car. There is no build up necessary. There is no loss of control. There is no "euphoria". No "altered state of consciousness." This is true for anyone I know who prays in tongues.
---Bruce5656 on 11/16/06


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SRC: Oct 31, 2006 article "Scientists Analyze Pentecostal Brainwaves" from Religion and Spirituality website:
(Part I)"We noticed a number of changes that occurred functionally in the brain," comments Principal Investigator Andrew Newberg, M.D., associate professor of Radiology, Psychiatry, and Religious Studies, and director for the Center for Spirituality and the Mind, at Penn.
---sam on 11/16/06


Part II-
"Our finding of decreased activity in the frontal lobes during the practice of speaking in tongues is fascinating because these subjects truly believe that the spirit of God is moving through them and controlling them to speak. . Our brain imaging research shows us that these subjects are not in control of the usual language centers during this activity, which is consistent with their description of a lack of intentional control while speaking in tongues."
---sam on 11/16/06


My point from 10/27 still stands.
---MikeM on 11/16/06


Donna227
That was well said.
---Bruce5656 on 11/1/06


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I expect the reason the same word is used is because there's no difference in sound, only in use. Any language can be used for communication or for prayer.
In Acts Luke was just relating what happened at Pentecost. His wasn't giving a lesson about tongues.Paul taught about the proper use of tongues..to an audiance that was familiar with tongues. They understood what he meant. It's not confusing to people who speak in tongues today, either (tho they don't always follow the rules)
---Donna2277 on 11/1/06


Paul was teaching how tongues can be misused. They are often misued (not perverted) today...just used inappropriately. People have absolute contol when they speak in tongues, so Paul's not asking anything difficult.
---Donna2277 on 11/1/06


Why is it that according to strong's concordance that tongues/language (glossa)is the same both in Acts and Corinthians wouldn't Luke who wrote Acts made mention of a diference like Paul supposedly did to avoid confusion? It still seems that Paul was addressing a perversion of tongues or something like that.
---DANNYBOY on 10/30/06


Zimbabwean -- Will you please point out my contradiction? I may not have put something plainly or you may have misunderstood something I said.
---Donna2277 on 10/30/06


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Geoff#1 -- There are two different types of tongues described in Chap 14: The tongues mentioned in vs. 26 and 27. and the tongues described in vs. 13-18. The first type is to be used in a group or a church for edification of the church. It ALWAYS needs an interpretor...how else could it edify the GROUP? The second type is PRAYING in tongues. It should NOT be used in church. Because as vs. 2 says,in prayer one "does not speak to MEN but to God." It edifies the speaker, no one else.vs.4.
---Donna2277 on 10/30/06


Geoff#2 -- As for myself, a couple of times when I was younger, I gave a message in tongues to the church (which were interpreted). It was not easy for me because I'm a rather shy person.I PRAY in tongues, often, at home during my prayer time OR just as I go about activities at home alone. I never understand what I speak in tongues. The messages I gave to the church, had I understood them, could have been given in English. BUT I'd have applied much mental editing. The HS doesn't need editing.
---Donna2277 on 10/30/06


Donna2277, did you realise that you are contradicting yourself, try read the whole chapter of 1 Corint 14, dont skip any verses it will help a lot
---ZIMBABWEAN on 10/30/06


Donna, you said "I DO speak in tongues." Interesting! Do you also understand or do you use an interpreter? Please share a message. What did you say in tongues? Was it something you could have said in your native tongue? Why do you suppose Holy Spirit decided to use tongues in that instance?
---Geoff on 10/29/06


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Geoff -->> Unknown tongues are not unknown to the speaker<< Really? vs. 4 doesn't say, but vs. 14 says "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful."

"For" or "against" tongues, I congratulate you for reading I Cor. chap 14. Most people...the "tongue-speakers" and "anti-tongue-speakers" alike, are happy to skip this chapter.

I DO speak in tongues, but I agree 100% in the proper use vs. 27-28
---Donna2277 on 10/29/06


Geoff--Yes, prophesy is better!
The MISUSE is tongues without interpretation in a GROUP: ICr14:27 "If any man speak in a tongue, [let it be] by two, or at the most three, and [that] by course; and let one interpret"
PRAYER in tongues NOT meant for others, needs no interpretation,: 1Cr14:2 "He that speaks in an [unknown] tongue speaks not unto men, but unto God: for no man understands him, yet in the spirit he speaks mysteries". Should NOT BE USED IN A GROUP.
---Donna2277 on 10/28/06


Donna, 1 Cor 14:2 is one side of a contrast (the other side is in v3) between prophesying and speaking in tongues. It is preferred to prophesy-v5. Edification is paramount. Unknown tongues are not unknown to the speaker-v4 and of course our omniscient God-v2. Unknown refers to the audience-v9.

Now, I am not against tongues-v39. I am for the proper use of tongues-v27-33.
---Geoff on 10/27/06


Mike how is the "studying " with the Mormons going?
---JohnT on 10/27/06


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The evidence is glossalalia (speaking in tongues)os completly physiological. It correlates to a release of endorphins in the central nervious system. Repetitive music,beat,is very hypnotic and can generate an altered state of consciousness, enough to generate catharsis in some while the body's own opiates: enkephalins and Beta-endorphins enhance the esperience, this can all be measured.


---MikeM on 10/27/06


earl-Tongues are not necessary for salvation.
God doesn't require anybody to speak in tongues.
Speaking in tongues in no way makes a person superior.

The important thing is to be born again: Repenting of your sins, asking forgiveness because the blood of Jesus has paid the penalty for your sins, yielding everything to Jesus...asking HIM to take control.
Blessings!
---Donna2277 on 10/25/06


earl, your posts are still difficult to understand. Please use Upper Case to start your sentences, and employ normal grammar rules.
Incidently what is/are "heavens's lexicons"?
Perhaps my dictionary is missing a definition?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/25/06


Earl -- We seem to be just talking past each other. A lot of your posts I don't understand either
e.g. "again jesus said,ye have not heard his 'voice' at any time". I have no idea what this means. If you quote Jesus (cap J) you should give chap. and verse. "i have experienced much in relation to our Father's unseen family" Meaning whom?
---Donna2277 on 10/25/06


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earl--To summerize the answers I've already given:
Where is the syntax?--there is none. Is this a uniform method of communication over years?--No.
Also the Bible talks about "interpreting" tongues which is not quite the same as translating.
You say,"spirit contact without difinitive answers is not of any value to the person". Communication to/from the Holy Spirit is not always for INTELLECTUAL understanding.It's a way of yielding more of ouselves to HIM.
---Donna2277 on 10/25/06


greetings,for dannyboy,when we take our first steps on the sea of glass we will have with us the "harps"of God and then we will understand.then we will use it to sing the new song of praise in the language of heaven.then we will understand the tongues of angels.then we will comprehend the lightning and thundering.is not the harps of God,heavens's lexicons?
---earl on 10/25/06


in relation to speaking in tongues,the Bible states quite cleary that there should be an interpreter there to ,translate' I know also that when one is new to Christianty they here many things,it dosnt mean its all right.Godbless.
---e on 10/25/06


I have responded to this issue many times. My point stands as it has never been refuted.

The evidence shows Glossolalia is a bio-chemical reaction in the body. glossolalists suffer less from stress, having endorphines released during their 'trance' state. That is ther payoof for pentacostals. It is observed in many cultures, in many religions, brought on by the same means. Continual rythems and beats.
---MikeM on 10/25/06


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1 COR. 14:38 SORRY
---DANNYBOY on 10/25/06


When you repent Jesus will fill you with his when you start speaking in tongues you have no control over what you are saying because it is Jesus speaking threw you and thats how you know you have recived his spirt that is the evedence . this forum alot of people are reslly won't to know how to be saved but to some you don't understand and you just won't to argue about it Jesus has a plan for us to be saved he has made it so plain but some people just keep stumbleing over it
---Betty on 10/25/06


greetings,for donna,i would without a doubt know if God ,without any hosts of heaven in his stead,speak to me, and pen it.fear not,concerning the unseen Father,indwelling,spirit of truth and "their angels",you speak with one who is comforted and not decieved.you said "usually speak".i see you saying God speaks unpredictably('varies according to') in 'tongues' but the evil spirits speak with good english.from all of this ,my question stands.
---earl on 10/24/06


greetings,for dannyboy,you did not say what book.i have many thoughts to pen.i will say thus far that no one on or off the net has agreed to what is being said when tongues are spoken.i do not know of my Father speaking where i cannot understand .that will defeat the purpose.i am not sure if your statement is in view me or in general?again jesus said,ye have not heard his 'voice' at any time.
---earl on 10/24/06


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(cont) earl, you suggest you have experienced some spirit contact. That's why I asked what kind? Spirits other than God, if they speak, usually speak quite specifically and in language you understand. HERE's where you need CAUTION, pray for discernment...since, occasionally, the Lord may also speak specifically to your heart or your ear. Unless you KNOW it is GOD and it agrees with the BIBLE, you must resist... place JESUS as your shield. "Resist the devil and he will flee from you" Ja. 4:7
---Donna2277 on 10/24/06


Earl, it's funny to me how people accept something like this knowing that it drives wedges between brothers and sisters. I've come to a conclusion though and that is chapter 14:38... This is not an issue that will determine anyone's eternity. It's just a shame some people treat it that way, or so it seems. Any thoughts?
---DANNYBOY on 10/24/06


earl -- "tongues": 1.known languages such as Spanish or Russian OR
2.unknown languages (unknown to humanity).
Both were used in the book of Acts. No.2 is the usual gift of the Holy Spirit called "tongues" today. It varies according to speaker and occasion.(seems like many languages). But it always defies
attempts at linguistic analysis. It's purpose is strictly spiritual...to express the inexpressible and to communicate with God when human language proves inadequate.(cont)
---Donna2277 on 10/24/06


greetings,for donna,my reply was specifically directed to 'tongues'and persons not yet having a uniform way of communicating after centuries of water under the bridge.again,where is the lexicon?yes, to all of your questions and i have experienced much in relation to our Father's unseen family, who man cannot normally see.will answering three questions for you answer the one question above?.thanks for your reply.have a nice day .
---earl on 10/23/06


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earl -- Maybe I was reading more into your message than you intended. If I was, forgive me! I was referring to your statement: "ive never experienced the spirit of any kind present theirself with so much unpredictability."
May I ask you a few questions?
What kind of spirits have you had experience with in the past? Do you know Jesus Christ as your personal Savior? Can you tell me what it means to be "saved"?
With some answers to these questions, maybe I can explain better.
---Donna2277 on 10/23/06


greetings,for donna,it appears you are starting the argument from which i have only asked simple questions to find truth, by stating that i have limited experience with the Spirit and by stating im not interested which is opposite of the truth.i never said predict.if 'tongues'is frequent to anyone then the development of communication and understanding of words ,phrases and sentences there after should be common,like learning a new language.is this a secret?thanks for reply
---earl on 10/22/06


Geoff -I've read I Cor 14:15 (along with surrounding verses), over and over, but your interpretation is the oddest I've ever encountered. What led you to your conclusion?
I Cor 14:2(not 4)describes tongues in prayer (private use), "For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men, but to God, for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries" Man speaking to God instead of men is usually called prayer, isn't it?
---Donna2277 on 10/22/06


earl--reading over past blogs, I'm afraid I misunderstood your questions as an honest attempt to find out something. If, in fact, you intended to start an argument...count me out. I have no need to defend speaking in tongues.
---Donna2277 on 10/22/06


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No earl, I don't know if the Holy Spirit HAS a "primary" language.But if He does, I don't think it's German, or French, Mandarin or Farsi. Are you saying YOU should be able PREDICT what the Holy Spirit will say or do? or if He doesn't present something concrete it "serves no purpose"?

I can TELL you haven't had much experience with the Holy Spirit.
There is a difference between the "mind" and the "spirit"? But I don't think you're really interested.
---Donna2277 on 10/22/06


greetings,for bruce ,a simple observation of two persons unknown to the other who are interpretors of 'tongues'will solve many unanswered questions.the two ,seperately would be given a list of simple words to interpret.words like,God,spirit ,son,Father,man,love,sin mother,etc.will be recorded in spirit 'utterance'.the two listings will then be compared for identical pronounciations and grammar.is that fair to all concerned?
---earl on 10/21/06


Bruce, if you take scripture out of context, you could come up with strange things like private tongues (not found in 1 Cor 4 or any other scripture). Please read v15 again. Paul prayed with understanding so the tongue could not be unknown.
---Geoff on 10/21/06


Bruce, I think it is a shame that you have to continuously post the same Biblical references over and over and over and still get the same results of unbelief. That astounds me, especially when you have expounded this subject so thoroughly by the Scriptures.
---Linda6563 on 10/21/06


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greetings,for bruce ,where is the documentation of the language used by those who have spoke in tongues?you said it is our voice but yet you also say not all tongues are understood.do you believe that the spirit presents you a message encrypted when they are not understood that will require decoding.why is it that the spirit does not edify the church at all times.would it be to your benefit to have your tongues you speak recorded to develop a comparrison of utterances to others?
---earl on 10/21/06


PART TWO:
There is a private use of tongues. v.4
Paul prayed and worshiped in tongues. v.14,15.
His regulation of public tongues and interpetation of tongues does not negate or nullify the reality of private, devotional tongues.
---Bruce5656 on 10/20/06


PART ONE:
Re: Whose voice it is that speaks.

Acts 2:4, "And they began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."

It is our voice with the Holy Spirit's guidance.

Not all tongues are interpreted or understandable. I Cor 14:2
Not all tongues are for the edification of the chruch.
---Bruce5656 on 10/20/06


greetings,for donna,ive read what you have said ,but ive never experienced the spirit of any kind present theirself with so much unpredictability.do you present too many variables in your reply?as i know the true spirit ,the spirit is very specific in it's contact with the human form. spirit contact without difinitive answers is not spirit like nor would the spirit be of any value to the person.when you say 'praise to the lord' are you saying you know the primary language of the holy spirit?
---earl on 10/20/06


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earl- when somebody speaks in tongues, it's their own voice speaking, but neither they nor anyone else (with rare exceptions)understands the words. The speaker is not out of control over his speech or actions, he just literally gives his tongue over to the Holy Spirit. (Skeptics say otherwise but they can't know for sure)There is no word-for-word "translation", but an "interpretation" may be given by another person who coveys what he believes the general sense of the message to be.
---Donna2277 on 10/20/06


and earl, as for what is said in "tongues", It invariably is interpreted as praise to the Lord or message of encouragement from the Lord. It is to be judged by whomever is in authority and ACCORDING to SCRIPTURE.(since false messages...inadvertant or not... are fairly common)
---Donna2277 on 10/20/06


Tell it like itr is earl! Keep preaching!
---jason on 10/20/06


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