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New Testament Tithing Practiced

When did tithing of money become a practice for the Church inside of the New Testament?

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I believe that you will find that people who give ten percent to their church call it tithing despite the fact that the teaching of the tithe is not valid to the church.

Frankly, any Christian that is successful should be seen giving at least ten percent to the Lord's work as giving reflects the love one has for the Lord & His church.
---Lee1538 on 11/1/09

The Roman Catholic church prohibited asking for tithes for centuries. The Protestants, until the nineteenth century, also shunned the practice. In both cases, the custom was started in order to build an edifice. Christians give voluntary offerings and alms with joy *3. Acts 15:20, 29 do not mention tithing. However, Romans 14.
*1 Acts 13:39, Romans 3:20, 28, 8:1-17, Galatians 1:6-9, 2:16, 3:10-13.
*2 Job 36:15, Psalm 12:5, 72:4, Ecclesiastes 7:7, Ezekiel 22:7, 29.
*3 Romans 15:26, 1Corinthians 16:1-3, 2Corinthians 8, 9:5 (covetousness), 7 (necessity = obligation, commandment).
---Glenn on 10/31/09

Preachers who try to place others under the curse of the law violate scripture *1. Tithes were salaries paid only in Israel by Israelites, on comestible crops, and clean domesticated animals (Leviticus 27:30-32). Tithes were not always accepted, Deuteronomy 23:18. Tithes were not paid on money owed, Matthew 5:23-24. A "Tithe" used for other than salaries, or exceeding the median salary, or excluding some workers, is a Malachi 3:9 curse, and was a form of theft. For the first few centuries, most giving was to the poor *2. Also, many church ministries, like many government ministries, are both extravagant and unaccountable to the common folk.
---Glenn on 10/31/09

Ryan is absolutely right!. It always amazes me how when Churches who want your money. They tell you to Tithe. This is blasphemous. Why dont they tell you to keep Kosher and circumcise your sons? When it is convenience for these greedy Pharisee to grab your money, they do not hesitate to blasphemy The Christ. The 1st century church never tithed, for (see Sermon of the Mount) the laws a written on your heart and the orginal church gave all they had. Not the 10%. They never resorted to the deceptive Stewardship classes either They were honest and said we need money, clothes, food shelter etc etc and Christians gave in the true sprit of The Christ. But Pharisees are called Hypocrites by Jesus. And they still exist today dont they Pharisee?
---Pastor_Jim on 10/30/09

Matt 22 v 21. The coin. Caesers, taxes - other. God's, Tithes & Offerings.
---Lawrence on 10/30/09

Abraham tithed before Moses and the Law came the person that he (gave the tithe to)tithed to was Melchezedek the Prince of Salem who was a Theohany (a type of Christ. Tithe is not only an old custum it is also a purposeful , practical and required way to serve God Christ did not come to do away with the Law but to fulfil it while some of it does not apply to gentiles tithing is not among them.
---Richard on 7/28/07

Let us also not forget that the former commandment (law) was set aside becasue of its weakness and uslesness in the flesh, and has been replaced by a superior covenant, that of the Spirit which brings life.
---Ryan_Z on 7/12/07

True, Christ's purpose for coming was not to abolish the law but that is, nevertheless, one of the things that did happen at his death and resurrection.
2Cor.3:13 Abolished.
Eph.2:15 Abolished.
Col2:14 Blotted out, nailed to the cross.
---john on 7/11/07

Remember Christ did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill the law. While Christ walked among us he live an accordance with the law. That changed when he became the lamb that would become the atonement for the sins of the world.
---Marcia on 7/9/07

I would say it started happening right away because the Levitical priesthood was done away with and Jesus abolished all ceremonial and sacrificial laws so the need for tithing foods was eliminated. But there were and still are those who hang onto OT. law instead of grasping the NT. principle of giving as the Sprit leads. There is no instruction to the NT church to tithe. Just give cheerfully as the Lord directs.
---john on 7/8/07

The only place we see an instruction on tithing in the NT is Jesus' intruction to the pharisees who were still living by OT. law.
There is no example of Jesus or his followers tithing. Reading Acts 15, we see that OT. law priciples tried to get into the church but the Apostles stopped it, calling the laws of Moses given only to the Jews as subversive to the Church.
---john on 7/8/07

tithing of money camed into pratice when men
becamed filled with greed.There is no biblicle mention of tithe being money, in fact the tithes of the bible were grain,wheat,corn or anything that had life in cannot be tithe because it has no life in that it can not are to give as it is purposed in your own heart
---mae on 7/8/07

Tithing is a way in which the Lord can weigh out the thoughts and intents of the heart in who wants to cheerfully give and who wants to have their treasures here. Most who want their treasures here have their witness laid up in heaven against them and instead of the treasures of wisdom and knowledge in Christ they have corruptable treasures that will perish
---Frank on 7/8/07

Tithing has always been mans service to God, Jesus tithed and so did his followers. Paul states that each church should take up a collection for the futherence and the growth of the body. The New testiment churches took up a collect for the ministry which was the same as tithing.
---Marcia on 7/8/07

I can't believe it's another tithing question.
Let people tithe if they want to, why deny them a blessing for giving to God?
What's the problem? You're saved either way... aren't you? YOU CHOOSE.
---Pharisee on 7/8/07

friends, what we have of this world is not ours alone. It is all God's, money etc. I give tithe willingly and I love to give for the work of God to go ahead and into the whole world so our Savior can soon. This is what the tithe and donations are for. To help others. People all over the world know that christian churches help anyone in need as it is what Christ asked us to do.
---jana on 9/16/06

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Ryan ... I have previously misunderstood your objection to the tithe.
As to not paying someone else to do God's work, that is not really feasible. If I spend all my time feeding the hungry and visiting the widows etc, am I also going to be able to go to Africa to preach the gospel, or teach hygeine and sexual morals?
I suspect you will agree I could not, so it makes sense to give back to God(by giving to agencies that can do this)
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/14/06

Well, I give of my time AND my money. The last explanation sounds like nothing more than an excuse to hold onto your own money. If money is not that important, why can't you give a little away? Hmmm...
---Crystal on 9/14/06

#2 alan8869_of_UK, Money is not a testimony of God. We are living testimonies and should be examples to those who are in need not through our financial donations but through our being and how we live our lives. The concept of paying someone else to do the work of the Lord bothers me and that is what I am addressing.
Is 'good enough' good enough for our Lord?
---Ryan on 9/14/06

#1 alan8869_of_UK, my beloved brother in the Lord, in response to your questions I say this. We should give 100% to God. If you are giving to a place that provides good services to the hungry, homeless, orphaned and widowed I ask them is giving your money enough? Is this truly running the good race?
---Ryan on 9/14/06

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My church does what the church is commanded to do in the Scriptures and, if all churches did the same, we could do away with the welfare system in this country. We feed the hungry, run a clothing bank, provide for widows and orphans, and support missionaries. We also help families who have lost everything to a fire or had some ther sort of unforseen tragedy. I think I'll continue to give my 10% and anything else the Lord prompts. Thank you.
---Crystal on 9/14/06

It's funny, I sometimes feel guilty even though I tithe at least 10% like I should still give more... it's usually when I am eating a bag of chips or candy bar... or anything that I waste money on. Chips and candy bars are not essential to my survival and the fact that I have money to blow on silly things I dont need tells me I should be giving more. Now, I cant even imagine not giving and not feeling convicted for it.
---tofurabby on 9/14/06

Ryan # 3 There is nothing wrong in giving back to God less than 10% or more than 10% or exactly 10&, or about 10% That is how people today regard the word "tithe" Saying they must not give in this way because hitorically the word meant something else is just confusing and negative.
Please note that Pharisee said "let people tithe if they want and receive their blessings from their tithe" and not "so that they may receive"
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/14/06

Ryan # 2 Why not give money to those who are doing God's work, either the "church" who are teaching, pastoring, evangelising etc, or to other organisations maybe secular (yes even those) who are doing God's work of loving our neighbour?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/14/06

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Ryan # 1 Thank you for your latest to me. I will comment on a few of the points you make:
Everything came from God ... He gave it to us and so it is ours to dispose of. We give it back to God.
The church is not a building but the body of the faithful.
Why start up a lunch wagon if the church is already running one and needs funds to maintain the work?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/14/06

#3 Crystal, My point is there are so many ways good hearted Christians can take the money that is wasted paying bills for useless buildings and apply those monies to do magnanimous acts within their own communities and neighborhoods. James 1:27 is a great scripture for direction in these matters. My frustration is I see so-called 'Men of God' lining their pockets and robbing the elect when we (Myself included) should be in the world doing what has been commanded of us, HELPING THOSE WHO NEED HELP.
---Ryan on 9/13/06

#2 Crystal I would reccomend instead of 'tithing' 10% of your income to a building where God does not dwell, take that money and give it to a homeless man or start a lunch wagon for the hungry or buy new blankets for local orphans or find some widows in your community that are struggling and help them.
---Ryan on 9/13/06

#1 Crystal , why did the scribes and Pharisee's tithe of their mint, dill & cummin? Because of what was demanded of the tithe. In Leviticus 27:30-33 the tithe is defined as: from the land, the seed of the land or the fruit of the tree the herd and the flock. If you are going to tithe make sure it is from your excess and it is what God defined as the tithe. Otherwise you are just following man made doctrine and to follow something that has been added to the bible is unwise.
---Ryan on 9/13/06

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Well, I am NOT a Scribe or a Pharisee - PRAISE GOD!! But since I don't have mint, dill or cummin, I think I WILL tithe 10% of what I do have to honor the Lord. Is that Ok with you?
---Crystal on 9/13/06

I don't think we can say that the Bible tells us that tithing is wrong. It's just not nearly as good as presenting ourselves as a total sacrifice to God. The ministration of the law does not compare to the glory of the ministration of the spirit. 2 Cor.3 is a good read for this.
---john on 9/12/06

Crystal, are you a scribe or Pharisee, because that is who Jesus was addressing in that scripture. If you would like to tithe of your mint, dill and cummin that would be more in-line with the definition of tithing. It was not until 537 A.D. at the council of Tyre that the RCC decided to implement a New Testament tithe of money rather than what was defined by God in Leviticus as the tithe.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

alan8869_of_UK, I think Pharisee and I are both to blame for the mud-slinging. I was not very kind in some of my rersponses and as you stated I did do some misrepresentation. This is a topic that I find disturbing and that is surrounded in deceit. When I discuss it I tend to be a little too assertive and patronizing
To Pharisee, I apologize may we both find reconciliation in the Lord.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

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I know of no other more reliable source than Jesus and HE SAID that we are not to neglect tithing.
---Crystal on 9/12/06

"......but I have never met a pastor that accepts the truth about tithing...."

I have met least one but I know there are more. And he so accepts the truth of the tithe and offering that he wrote a study on "The Truth About the Tithe and the Offering" and sent it out to everyone on his mailing list. Giving of yourself first to the Lord and then to others is no issue whatsoever when Christ and Him crucified is brought into the storehouse.
---Linda6563 on 9/12/06

Ryan ... why do you think I have a personal bias? All I have is puzzlement as to why you should be so violently opposed to the ida of anyone deciding voluntarily to give by way of a tithe.
And why you should misrepresent what Pharisee said.
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

#3 alan8869_of_UK, If you read Pharisee's first post on this blog his attitude is, "Why are you making a big deal about tithing let people tithe if they want and receive their blessings from their tithe." This is the type of leaven I oppose and will destroy. We do not receive blessings for giving to God, we have received the blessing of His Son crucified and the atonement of sin, let's get the relationship of how blessings are received in proper context.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

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#2 alan8869_of_UK, If people think that they are tithing because they give 10% of their income than that needs to have the light of truth shined on it. Tithing was defined by God and man has attempted to redefine it for man's own material gain and that makes me want to puke to see scripture manipulated and twisted in that way.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

#1 alan8869_of_UK, I have never opposed giving. #1 I do not believe you should be misled that giving to a 'church' is giving to God. God does not dwell in buildings made by human hands so what 'church' exactly are you giving to. #2 God already owns everything and if you think you are giving Him money through a 'tithe' than you are being deceived. #3 My main point is we as Christians should be givers, not tithers. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

Ryan ... # 3 "Anyone who studies scripture knows that there is no such thing as a house of God made by human hands"
Do you mean a physical building, or the church, i.e. the communityof believers?
Are you suggesting that God will do all that He wants to without our getting using our hands, or our wallets (in which lie the fruits of the brains & brawn He has given us) or His other gifts to us?
I think the parable of the talents would disagree with that
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

Ryan ... # 2 It was indeed Pharisee who displayed anger, and I have to condemn him for having that sinful reaction to the mean and vicious way in which in which you had already attacked him.
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

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Ryan ... # 1 I am sorry, I did not realise I needed to give examples.
I don't recall saying anything about you being a name caller, but if I did, I withdraw it.
I am sorry if by cutting and pasting your remarks made about Pharisee, I included the word "anger", because I find that you do not seem to have been angry, more you seem to have enjoyed making accusations
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

Ryan ... # 2 You say "People who study diligently know that God does not dish out blessings to those who tithe" and I agree with you, although there are those in the prosperity belief who think material reward does follow giving.
But I do not think that anyone on this blog has suggested that they will receive extra favour of any kind because they tithe, or give.
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

Ryan ... # 1 Do you really say that the Bible says that I should not give 10% of my income to the church, or to God through other means? Why is it wrong to plan what you give, rather than do it on the spur of the moment?
You say everyone who has read the bible knows it is wrong to tithe, so let's decide on 9.99% or 10.001% to avoid sinning. Your statement is silly
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

It's funny how money divides the church. I agree with John. In this 'dispensation' of grace. we belong to God 100% so 100% of what we have in time, money etc. (and who we are) belong to God. He can do what He wants with it. And remember "the storehouse of God" is His heart and not the bank account of any church. Let us rightly channel our giving.
---Toyin on 9/12/06

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#2 alan8869_of_UK, I also notice you failed to show examples of where I lied or showed anger, meaness or visciousness. I am not the name caller in this discussion and I am the one who is using biblical truth as my support.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

#1 alan8869_of_UK, look at this how you will but appearantly you have a personal bias. Anyone who studies scripture knows that there is no such thing as a house of God made by human hands. People who study diligently know that God does not dish out blessings to those who tithe. Anyone grounded in the word knows that the practice of tithing is of the law and if you are going to practice one law you better be practicing them all.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

I agree with john.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

These are the words of Jesus. Thought I'd clarify that since I can't make them RED.
Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, WITHOUT NEGLECTING THE FORMER. (emphasis mine)
---Crystal on 9/12/06

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Ryan ... I look at your quarrel with Pharisee from the outside. And I see that it is you who is "angry, mean, untruthful and viscious", in the way that you first attacked Pharisee. OK his "snotty" was a bit ripe, but he had been well provoked.
You accuse him of legalism when he says "You may tithe if you wish"
But it is you who are legalistic, because you say "You must not tithe even if you wish"
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/12/06

In our church we try to make disciples, not tithers.The great commission is to make disciples of all people. A disciple is one who has given all, not just a measly 10% and some offerings. Our whole life is suppposed to be a sacrifice not just paying God back the 10% that isn't even ours. Tithing, as the rest of the law, puts a veil on the face of the people and blinds them to that which is much better.2 Cor. 3:16
---john on 9/12/06

#2 Pharisee, I also believe that I said giving is inherent in the Christians heart, but don't expect to buy blessings from God with your 'tithe' as you have implied. Pharisee the way you have handled yourself in this conversation is not loving, gentle, kind or patient. You are angry, mean, untruthful and viscious. I will pray for you my friend.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

#1 Pharisee, I see we are not going to see eye to eye on this issue. I care more about truth and Jesus said He did not come as a peacemaker. Any issue involving putting people under law is not a 'Tiny little issue.' Yo may think my statement inflamatory but I have never met a pastor that accepts the truth about tithing. I am not spreading any form of legalism I am telling the truth as it states in scripture. If teaching that we are no longer under Mosaic Law is legalism than I am guilty.
---Ryan on 9/12/06

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"Pharisee, I am not putting myself in the position of "Being in charge of who is saved.""

"No Pharisee you are not saved either way"

You are establishing Ryan's law to outlaw the tenth, and sending all to Hell who give a tenth.

Then you prejudge me and call me a liar, and I'm the bad guy for calling you what you've lived up to.
Legalism stinks, but trying to impose your convictions on people against the tithe amounts to the same thing.
---Pharisee on 9/12/06

"Well Pharisee your ilk are easy to spot, start challenging the tithe and you fight like a ferocious and wounded beast."
Isn't that an inflammatory statement?
Yes it is easy to spot, your legalism against tithing is the same as a law, your law says anything but a tenth.
This too nullifys grace, it's an attempt to control those whom Jesus died for so that your paramaters of righteousness can live beyond it's assigned border of conducting yourself worthily in grace.
---Pharisee on 9/12/06

"And as far as your staement concerning 'The house of God' that is also a lie."
Who tells lies but a liar?
Who cast the first stone then?
The word mistruth or falsehood might have been suitable, but no you used the word "lie" implying that the one who said "house of God" was intentionally deeking to decieve others.
Your words are offensive and you care more about being right then keeping peace. What does that say?
---Pharisee on 9/12/06

Dear Ryan I am not sorry.
You come on and say "all I was trying to do"...Now I could add another name to the list, but what's the point, I'll be painted as the bad guy while you continue to instigate dissension.
The fact is this is a TINY little issue, and with the way you twisted scripture in your attempt to correct me needed rebuke.
I'm astonished at the way you've posted blog upon blog on this issue, that tells me you're all talk and not acting on your conviction.
---Pharisee on 9/12/06

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The OT.tithe was to feed the poor and for you to have a big party with your neighbours and friends..yep.. go check that out in Deut.14. And it was for the Levitical priesthood. Now we are a spiritual priesthood and have become stewards of everything, not just 10%. God wants everything for His kingdom now, not just 10%.
---john on 9/12/06

#3 Pharisee, one more thing you say:
"why deny them a blessing for giving to God? & I don't care if tithing is part of the old law or not, it's a concept of giving that God said he'd bless."
This sounds more like cult doctrine from the Mormon or Jahovah's wittness playbook. They agree with you, their followers tithe regularly. Their numbers continue to grow rapidly and I am sure they feel 'Blessed' as you have stated. You might want to rethink your position about buying blessings from God.
---Ryan on 9/11/06

#2 Pharisee, As far as you being a pastor, those that shepherd the flock do not rely on name calline i.e. "Snotty little mocker.' From your statements I gathered you have no objections to tithing and I was merely trying to shed some light on why you should be against tithing. I would be pleased to give you double honor, however, your name calling and ignorance are evidence that you are not who you claim to be. God bless you my brother and may you continue to mature in our Lord Jesus Christ.
---Ryan on 9/11/06

#1 Pharisee, I am sorry if you have taken offense to my comments. I completely disagree with you on allowing people to tithe. Tithing should be preached against.
---Ryan on 9/11/06

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Ryan I am utterly amazed that you imply that Pharisee says "if they do not pay their 'tithe' than they are 'robbing God'.
These were Pharisee's opening words on this subject "Let people tithe if they want to, why deny them a blessing for giving to God?"
Does that sound like someone who insists on the tithe?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/11/06

I hope you are not the man in the pulpit spreading the lies that people need to come to the 'House of God' every Sunday and if they do not pay their 'tithe' than they are 'robbing God'. I HAVE NEVER.
Your a snotty little mocker who doesn't know scriptures, I actually spend my own money on this ministry, money I have to work for.
You also need to be careful about how you deal with pastors. The Bible says to give double honor.
---Pharisee on 9/11/06

Wherever two or more are gathered in my name there I am in the midst of them.
God dwells where there is faith.
Bryan which part of my statement didn't you get, you must have read only the first three words.
---Pharisee on 9/11/06

#2 Pharisee, Pharisee it is important that if you are shepherding the flock you are using truth and not man made doctrines. I hope you are not the man in the pulpit spreading the lies that people need to come to the 'House of God' every Sunday and if they do not pay their 'tithe' than they are 'robbing God'.
---Ryan on 9/11/06

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#1 Well Pharisee your ilk are easy to spot, start challenging the tithe and you fight like a ferocious and wounded beast. I have never said anything against giving. Actually I believe giving is inherent in the heart of every Christian. Tithing however is a practice of Law not grace. And as far as your staement concerning 'The house of God' that is also a lie. Scripture is very clear that God does not dwell in buildings made of human hands.
---Ryan on 9/11/06

I don't care if tithing is part of the old law or not, it's a concept of giving that God said he'd bless.

I have a fix for you, give more and you won't be tithing.
---Pharisee on 9/11/06

Guilty as charged Ryan, but I don't take collections, I do accept donations and announce a need for the ministry if there is one. I don't draw a salary, I'm not a hired gun.

If we CHOOSE to tithe, and find a tenth acceptable and easily calculated (SOME GIVE MORE) to bless God's house, where is law?
---Pharisee on 9/10/06

OK Ryan ... Shall I give 10.005% and so avoid being under tha law, and thus be saved?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/10/06

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Pharisee, I am not putting myself in the position of "Being in charge of who is saved." Tithing is of the Law and if people belive they receive blessings from tithing than they are grossly mistaken. Putting yourself under an Old Testament practice like tithing is unwise; Whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their heart.
Pharisee you must be a pastor or something since you have such an opposition to me challenging tithing practices and shedding some truth on the matter.
---Ryan on 9/10/06

Ryan Paul was talking about reliance on the law for justification and entrance to Heaven.
There's a difference if we rely on a law for a blessing (not for our salvation) that God told us to test him in.
Do you see the difference?
I think you need to read Galations again because that was the context; law for salvation.
---Pharisee on 9/9/06

Now Ryan is in Chrage of who's saved...How'd you get that spiritual gift, I'd like to have that one.
---Pharisee on 9/9/06

I agree totally with Pharisee...why not leave us to tithe willingly to God. It says we are to tithe so why pull us to be like the selfish ones who dont want to return what is truthfully God's ... Tithing has been around since the begining and it is to help build the church etc. It is up to the individual to tithe or not so dont tell me not to tithe when I want to. Let God be judge.
---jana on 9/9/06

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No Pharisee you are not saved either way. If you adhere to one law you must adhere to them all, for if you are guilty of breaking one you are guilty of breaking them all. Tithing is from law and anyone who tithes puts themselves under law (Usually in their own ignorance). Give, but do not tithe.
---Ryan on 9/8/06

A better question to ask is "When was tithing NOT a practice for the Church in NT times?"
---Jack on 9/8/06

Did it at all?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/8/06

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