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Pope Has Offended Many Muslims

The Pope has offended many Muslims with his comments about their religion being one of violence. Should the Pope continue to back down or was he speaking the truth?

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Why are you thinking evil in your hearts and speak them out? Every thought of your heart is evil continually. Your wicked words lie in wait to shed innocent blood. Your thoughts are thoughts of iniquity, devastation and destruction are in your path. How long will your wicked thoughts lodge within you? Thoughts come into your mind, and you will devise an evil plan against innocent people.

Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

God surely knows your thoughts. Wash your heart from evil that you may be saved.
---Steveng on 6/29/08


Jesus commands us to love our neighbours and to even love our enemies.

The Koran commands its followers to kill those who will not submit to Islam. It is at its very core an intolerant religion which creates violence and hatred. The Pope told the truth and Muslims are offended. The truth can be offensive but we should none the less tell it like it is.
---Warwick on 6/29/08


I am christian and not a catholic.I agree with the Pope of Vatican's statement 100%.The Pope refused that Koran is a book from God in its dialog with moslems.The koran mentions Jesus was a prophet and not a God,less than Mohammed and Judath Iscariot died on the cross while Jesus was risen to heaven.
---Henry on 6/28/08


It's nice that we agree on the most important issue, Nicole. :-)
---frances008 on 6/28/08


Who cares if he offends a bunch of murdering barbarians?
---jerry6593 on 6/28/08




The Pope, the black pope and the minions of followers are all under the authority of God and will have to answer for their crimes against humanity. This is not my idea, but Revelation's prophetic promise.
---frances008 on 6/27/08


Peter isn't afraid. He knows who gave him the Keys.

Everyone not just the bad Popes and wanna be Popes will have to answer for their crimes against humanity. Protestants as well.

It's called Judgement Day.
---Nicole on 6/28/08


The Pope, the black pope and the minions of followers are all under the authority of God and will have to answer for their crimes against humanity. This is not my idea, but Revelation's prophetic promise.
---frances008 on 6/27/08


Good point, frances. I have often thought the same thing.
Steveng, you've been everything, everywhere and much of it doesn't match up when we try to connect the dots.

The fact that you enjoy telling us so much about the dark side gives me cause for pause.
You may very well be under the influence of demons and not know it.
---Ryan on 6/27/08


The Pope is nothing more than a man who was given that position to uphold the RCC traditions, rules of living and it's own interpretations of the Bible. The Pope is just another title man has placed on this person much like the President of the United States, a Senator, a CEO of a corporation, a minister or pastor. All these people are nothing more than just people with a title having an education to get that title.

I do know of a few taxi drivers, fishermen and chiminey sweeps who are more wiser though.

So don't try to convince us of your scholars.
---Steveng on 6/25/08

I guess, Jesus disagrees with you Steveng.

Matthew 16:13-19

The one who holds the Keys has Authority from on high.
---Nicole on 6/27/08


You never apologize when speaking for God. In this case the Pope was I feel correct, and should not have apologize. Muslims are so touchy. I am sure glad the true God is not. His anger, if provoked---I am glad I am His friend. That's it!
---catherine on 6/27/08




Thank you, Mark V.

As usual, those who shine a light on conspirators get torn to bits by the demons. Steveng, you really should not have attended seances, because I think you are under demon influence from it. I say this not as an insult, but because you yourself admitted attending them, and exorcisms. Could it be possible that some demons attached themselves to you. I am serious, this is a serious discussion.
---frances08 on 6/27/08


Would you hold it against me if I said, big deal, who cares.

Muslims have offended many Christians, does anyone care about that?
I think not. Christians are not allowed to be offended by Muslims, it's not politically correct.
---Ryan on 6/26/08


frances008: "Steveng: ...Are you a group of people ganging up against me? Are you one person with several names? Are you using the royal 'we' like the Queen and the Pope? Are you working for an organization, system, authority etc? I would like to know who you speak on behalf of. Perhaps the CIA."

You are wise only in your own conceit. I'm not part of your paranoid dilusions for a new conspiracy against me. Rest assured, I do not belong to any worldy organization but only report to God. You fill your heart up with unnecessary worldly conspiracies and things and have no room left for the things that really matter - God. Delight yourself in the Lord only, not in what other men are doing as a group. Ezekiel 22:24-29
---Steveng on 6/26/08


frances008: "All conspiracy theories join at one point and.., you will find the Pope is above all earthly authority, ..."

On the contrary, you did not go high enough. It's Satan that is above all earthly authority and is the master of all conspiracies, able to plot people against people. Satan is the root of all conspiracies and you are serving the god of this world by spreading his conspiracies to whom you can devour with them. In your heart you fear man and what he can do to you. Replace that fear with the love of God.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Eph. 6:12)
---Steveng on 6/26/08


Frances, I like many of your post. I know when someone begans to speak about so many area's of life as you do, you will get jump by many since you have many that get too serious on some issues and mad about others and others have studied about many issues in life and then others only want to argue. I encourage you to not let anyone get to you.
---Mark_V. on 6/26/08


Frances ... I am sorry if you think i am putting you on trial ... I am just trying to understand your views. Some of them seem illogical but no doubt i am wrong & it would be helpful if you could put me straight.

And I still don't see the logicality of africa. You say the Vatican wants to reduce the pop of Africa. If that were the case, surely the Vatican would want to add birth control as an additional por reduction method in addition to the problems of illness and tribal conflict that it already has?.
---alan_of_UK on 6/26/08


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Steveng, I hope you keep a record of my blogs and when history proves one of us right you can refer to them. All conspiracy theories join at one point and that is if you look high enough up the ladder, you will find the Pope is above all earthly authority, self proclaimed, appointed by the Jesuits. If the world is in a mess, and the atheists are blaming religion, look no further than the RCC which is the mother of all harlots. Jesus came to bring a faith and not a religion, least of all a Universal Religion. Jesus wanted unity among the remnant (remains of the believers) he did not want forced obedience to any human being, least of all the one sitting on his throne in Rome wearing a Dagon god hat.
---frances008 on 6/25/08


Steveng: Who is 'we'? Are you a group of people ganging up against me? Are you one person with several names? Are you using the royal 'we' like the Queen and the Pope? Are you working for an organization, system, authority etc? Please be more precise as to how many people 'we' refers to. I would like to know who you speak on behalf of. Perhaps the CIA.
---frances008 on 6/25/08


frances008: "...try and figure it out for yourself using the Bible and..."

We are only trying to convince you of the error of your ways.

The Pope is nothing more than a man who was given that position to uphold the RCC traditions, rules of living and it's own interpretations of the Bible. The Pope is just another title man has placed on this person much like the President of the United States, a Senator, a CEO of a corporation, a minister or pastor. All these people are nothing more than just people with a title having an education to get that title.

I do know of a few taxi drivers, fishermen and chiminey sweeps who are more wiser though.

So don't try to convince us of your scholars.
---Steveng on 6/25/08


Frances ... If the RCC is o keen to reduce the population, why is it so vehemently against birth control?
Just asking!
---alan_of_UK on 6/25/08

Thank you Alan of UK,

Frances and Rhonda know that TRUE HISTORY shows that the RCC is for LIFE.

The RCC is against birth control for all people in all countries, nations and religions. This includes ALL BABIES EVERYWHERE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE.
---Nicole on 6/25/08


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AlanofUk, you have in no way done anything to offend me, but I am getting tired of your questionning me as if I am on trial. It is the RCC that should be on trial. Why should I have to explain its actions and nonactions. Please do the research for yourself from now onwards and don't confront me with the RCC's hypocrisies etc. and try and figure it out for yourself using the Bible and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit.
---frances008 on 6/25/08


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If the RCC is o keen to reduce the population, why is it so vehemently against birth control?
**

Population reduction of one type of human by race or beliefs is not the same as having the race (or belief system) one belongs to not practice birth control so you may continue to procreate your own race/people with same beliefs

It is interesting that this pope heads the same department in the catholic church that caused some 50 million deaths back in the dark ages who is judging the muslims as being violent

it's always best in one world government/religion to reduce the very thing you don't want polluting your pure race/beliefs
---Rhonda on 6/25/08


The RCC has always said one thing with its mouth, whilst doing the opposite. Have you never noticed this, AlanofUk.

They have to hide their real characters under a charade of godliness. It is the 'form of godliness' that Paul talks of, which denies God.

Birth control is, in anycase, not really relevant to population control because people ignore all advice. The Africans continue to have all the babies whilst the west continues to abort. This is abhorrent to the Vatican who sees the situation arising where there are too many Africans for them to continue to loot their country in freedom. People make a nation strong. What the Vatican hates is any ability in the common man to rise up against the elites.
---frances008 on 6/25/08


Frances ... If the RCC is o keen to reduce the population, why is it so vehemently against birth control?
Just asking!
---alan_of_UK on 6/25/08


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Nicole, it does not matter which organization you belong to, most organizations are working for the Jesuits behind the scenes and if you oppose them you don't stand any chance of success at all, and you draw unnecessary attention to yourself, preventing yourself from being free to act in a discreet way against the jesuits.
---frances008 on 6/25/08


Nicole, I looked at both that and the pre-runner Populorum Progressio of 1967. If you go to www dot papalencyclicals and go to number 24 of PP you will see what happening in Zimbabwe. Go to 43 and 44 and you see the New World Order. The RCC wants all goods to be gathered up and redistributed. No mention is made of the huge threat of GM crops to the poor.

Sollicitudo Rei Socialis in 1987 talks of needing to guard nature against human multitudes that are out of control and heading towards social disaster. Both of these encyclicals stress solidarity of action. They are a blueprint for theft and murder under the NWO. The 1987 one (i think) but it could be the 1967 one acurately predicted the War on Terror. Very clever.
---frances008 on 6/24/08


Sollictudo Rei Socialis is the Communist plan of the Vatican to cut down the world population,-frances008

Do you remember the Women's world conference in China about women's concern including BIRTH CONTROL1992 or93
Hiliary went to this conference, taking her daughter.

Only two groups (Religious and nonreligious) protested the event because it was speaking on HOW TO INFORCE POPULATION CONTROL.

1. MUSLIMS
2. ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.(Eastern)

No Protestant. Even James Dobson from Focus on the Family,was upset that no delegate was sent.

Sollictudo Rei Socialis is Latin for The Social concern of the Church an Encyclical Letter promulgated on Dec 30 1987 by Pope John II. Goggle it if you wish.
---Nicole on 6/23/08


Nicole, you are naive and deceived. For a start there are loads of mercenaries getting paid fantastic money to go to Iraq and cause the war, not Muslims. Then the CIA has special operations, which similarly consist of adding to the fog of war, and not just Americans do this, but British Secret Services. The aim is war by all means. Sollictudo Rei Socialis is the Communist plan of the Vatican to cut down the world population, but there are many other publications. I just found out about this one by chance. The Vatican blesses all western leaders. He also blesses others who obey him. Ali was hit by an American bomb everyone knows this. Why are you rewriting history already?
---frances008 on 6/23/08


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the Pope is right radical Islamic muslims that are trained terrorists are out of control. Adn very violent! That is true.
The terrorists are evil. The Pope is not evil. he proclaims the Lord Jesus Christ is King and He worships the Lord! He is a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ.
---Paul on 6/23/08


Christianity may appear to be so benign,but not to the little boy, Ali, who lost both arms and all of his family members in a bombing raid. The Vatican is the place all the war plans come from. He had Ratzinger, telling the world about the over population'problem'.It seems to me the war was just a population control thing.-frances008

What Joural do U subscribe to? Against the Popes are us. Who is telling you all this stuffs?
I feel for Ali and the 100,000's of Muslims dead. But, why don't you complain to the suicide bombers? Why tell us?
Now the Vatican holds suicide bombers camps!
As for the over population busy. The RCC has always been against those trying to CONTROL THE POPULATION BY KILLING THE UNBORN.
---Nicole on 6/23/08


Christianity may appear to be so benign, but not to the little boy, Ali, who lost both arms and all of his family members in a bombing raid. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims have died. The Vatican is the place all the war plans come from, from 911 onwards. Anyone who cannot see that Benedict is an evil Pope, is just lacking something. John Paul was not quite so evil but he was shot, and then he got Parkinson's, so he was hardly ever in control of anyone. He had Ratzinger over him all that time, telling the world about the over population 'problem'. It seems to me the war was just a population control thing.
---frances008 on 6/23/08


Benedict XVI never back down from his remarks. He only stated that certain Muslims just proved his comment.
And he never said that their religion being one of violence. He said, that when anyone insults anything about the Isalm's faith, that certain Muslims turn to violence to silence the words or actions. But, they are allowed to say anything they want about other's Faith.

He is speaking the truth. These Muslim did just as he said.

They even got mad because He(Pope) baptized a Muslim on Easter Vigil on TV.
They have a death sentence on his head.

Benedict XVI stated he will not be silent.
He had the encourged to say what all people already know.
---Nicole on 6/23/08


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No one should back down from telling the truth about islam. All you need to do is look at what they are doing in the middle east. torture, beheadings and blowing themselves up for alla.....a DEAD god. his bones are still in his grave.
---shira_9639 on 6/22/08


I have just heard on the radio the Pope apologising for his remark about muslims during a meeting with muslim reps. What an honourable thing to do and I admire the Pope for being brave in the stance he took.
---jana on 9/26/06


I have a dear friend that is a missionary to Muslims. He has served the Lord in North Africa in various countries, now he is in Southern Europe, working on Radio Bible stuff that broadcasts into North Africa. My daughter went to visit them when they lived in North Africa. This man and his wife have a love for the Muslims, and they taught my family that love.
The way many of you speak of Muslims makes my heart very sad that you would despise these that need the Lord so much.
---Madison1101 on 9/23/06


The bible warns of signs of the end, nations claiming, peace, peace! when there is no peace Jer 8:14. As we look around the world we see more and more wars,nations againts each other, the return of CHRST is the ONLY and REAL solution to this world,s seemingly endless problems! THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND.
---winni on 9/23/06


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I have worked closely with a Muslim business associate over the past few years. At lunch one day, I asked his opinion of strapping on explosives and murdering innocent women and children. His answer shocked me. He, like most Muslims, believes that the end justifies the means, and that the hardships forced on Palestinians justifies attacks on innocents.

As long as a religion causes women to teach their children that the murder of innocents is God's will, peace with that religion will never come.
---jerry6593 on 9/23/06


Alwayson-- How right you are about our approach to Muslims! To start out telling ANYBODY that they, or their God, is "wrong" is guaranteed to squelch any amicable feelings. (It's true that Muslims historically make converts by the sword, so they could use a lesson in that as well). One on one, Muslims are usually lovely people. I just wish they could know the Love and Mercy of God, and experience His Grace.
---Donna2277 on 9/22/06


There are some other oddities about Islam that might cause frustration for a witnessing Christian. They are taught that Jesus did not die on the cross. It was Judas who died on the cross, but not for sin...that was a trick Allah played on the followers of Jesus. They believe Ishmael IS the son of promise, the one Abraham took to the mountain as a sacrifice. I don't really know where they get these beliefs...from the Quran, oral tradition...who knows?
---Donna2277 on 9/22/06


Jana, you are so right. I woke up this morning with Abraham, Sarah, Hagar, Isaac and Ishmael on my heart. What a mess when we don't trust Him, but instead take matters into our own hands.
---AlwaysOn on 9/22/06


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Donna2277,thanks,I have tried looking it up on different sources with no luck,so what you gave gives me, at least, a starting point.
---Darlene_1 on 9/22/06


Ishmael was born against God's wishes. He purposed for Isaac to be born of Abrahams wife and not the servant. Sarah did wrong by offering Abraham to the sevant girl. If only man listened to God, we wouldnt have wars etc today. We are so stiff necked in our ways, we question God in most ways when we shouldnt.
---jana on 9/22/06


Thanks, Donna.
I know, like Jews, Muslims deny Jesus' deity. Embracing Him as a prophet is more than Jews are willing, but still won't save them.
I wonder if we'd have success reaching Muslims if we'd believe their claims of worshipping the God of Abraham instead of insisting they worship a false god, pagan god, dead god, etc. That must be insulting & degrading. 1st, they're the seed of Abraham's bastard child & now told that they don't share Abraham's God despite their contrary claims.
---AlwaysOn on 9/21/06


Darlene-- There seems to be no a clear idea Where "Havilah" or "Shur" were...somewhere in N.W. Arabia, they say, perhaps Jordan.

Alwayson--I guess when Christians, who assume they "know" God, hear how Muslims view Allah, they don't know how to reconcile the disparities. They conclude that Allah cannot be the same God Christians worship.

In Islam, Jesus is a prophet. But the Quran says "God has no sons", so Muslims don't accept the deity of Jesus.
---Donna2277 on 9/21/06


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Genesis 25:12-18 Nebajoth,Kedar,Abdeel,Mibsam,Mishma,Dumah,Massa,Hadar,Tema,Jetur,Naphish,Kedemah-12 sons of Ishmael,their names,by their towns,by their castles,12 Princes according to their Nations. And they dwelt from Havilah,unto Shur,that is before Egypt as thou goest toward Assyria. Can anyone tell me exactly where this land was and what it would be today? Would this indicate the people affected/related to them today? This shows who Ishmaels offspring were and area connected to them then.
---Darlene_1 on 9/21/06


Question; If Heaven is prepared "only" for those who obeyed God in Old Testament and those who accept Jesus as Savior in NT,then if Muslims think they have the same God as Jews, wouldn't the Bible's Word exclude them from Abraham's God's Heaven? Not to mention their beliefs excluding them since now only get to Heaven through believing Jesus is Son of God,crucified for sin,bled and died,rose again,now lives.
---Darlene_1 on 9/21/06


Elder, you said because we believe the bible, but where in the bible does it say that muslims don't believe in God? The story of Ishmael suggests that they have had a relationship with God since then. Because of Isaac and Ismael, that there is strife between us is clear, but I'm not understanding how we're assuming they believe in a different God. I really am curious about this.
---AlwaysOn on 9/21/06


Elder ... It was me who asked that. Perhaps my question was not explained enough.
I meant, If a Muslim believes that his God is the God of Abraham, and therefore the same God of the Jews & Christians ... If he believes that ... how can we tell him that he does not believe that?
He is wrong in believing that, but we cannot deny that that is what he believes, We can't say he does not believe the falsehood.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/21/06


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A asks, "Why do we not believe a Muslim, when he talls us what he believes?"
---a
It is because we belive the Bible. I would suggest to A that he/she reads it.
---Elder on 9/21/06


A pastor I know was used in the conversion of a very wealthy, powerful Saudi. He reached him by beginning with the common history of Islam & Christianity. The man was astonished to learn that God doesn't hate him and that Jesus loves him. All many Muslims hear is that they are worshipping a false God, practicing a pagan religion, etc. Muslims believe they're worshipping the God of Abraham and we have biblical evidence that this is true. I think that's a good starting point if we're to reach them.
---AlwaysOn on 9/21/06


Lynn, there was still a promise on Ishmael's life. He wasn't the child of "the" promise, but he was still given a promise of which God has remained faithful to.
---AlwaysOn on 9/21/06


Donna, I've read those scriptures and I understand where the strife originates, just not where the idea that they're worshipping a false God comes from. It appears that they believe in the true and living God. I've been told that "Elohim" and "Allah" both came from the semetic word "El" which actually means God. I've also heard that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews used to use the name "Allah" as well. The etymology and the history all point to the same God.
---AlwaysOn on 9/21/06


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I believe that in Arabic Allah means God.Christianity starts from Genesis But for Islam it is from Abraham who they consider as God.Their origin is from Ishmael & Gods promise to Abraham. This is NOT gospel.St paul says that Christianity has its roots in Issac,& they are the chosen & Gods people.
---Emcee on 9/20/06


Same God, Wrong promise. Wrong Kid(Ishmal)
---Lynn on 9/20/06


#3 -- God compares Issac and Ishmael again in the NT. Gal 4:28&29 " Now we brethren, as Issac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh [Ismael- see vs.23] PERSECUTED him that was born after the spirit, even so it is now." STILL IS! Sometimes Ishmael seems a mirror image of Issac (seen by many as a type of Christ). Makes me wonder if Islam is in some way a mirror image of Christianity.
Their God and ours seem SO opposite. Wild.
Could it be?
---Donna2277 on 9/20/06


#2 -- Gen 16:11 "And the angel of the Lord said unto her, [Hagar] Behold thou are with child and shall bear a son and shalt call his name Ishmael because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will will be against every man, and every mans hand against him: and he shall dwell in the prescence of his bretheren.

So I guess we shouldn't be surprized by the violance of Muslim nations.
---Donna2277 on 9/20/06


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It is strange that Muslims say that their God is the God of Abraham, therefore the same God as ours.
Christians deny that and say Allah is the moon god etc.
Why do we not believe a Muslim, when he talls us what he believes?
---a on 9/20/06


#1--THEY (Muslims) believe they DO worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...since they are descendents of Ishmael. And God HAS promised to make of Ishmael a "great nation"! (Gen 21:12,13&18) I'm not sure the Bible tells what happened to Ishmael after he and Hagar were banished by Sarah, other than that he he lived in the wilderness of Paran, became an archer, and married an Egyptian like his mother..(cont)
---Donna2277 on 9/20/06


Shira, I don't doubt that you know about Islam, I was merely wondering if you knew, personally, any muslims. ;)
Are you able to offer any factual explanations to the other questions that I've posed on the topic? I can never get a clear answer from anyone who isn't a muslim and the muslims that I have talked to swear that Allah is the same God of Abraham and Ishmael (with a name/language difference, of course).


Thanks!
---AlwaysOn on 9/20/06


#2

Why do Muslims insist that Allah is the same God as Abraham and Ishmael's God if it isn't? What is their motive for outright lying about who they're worshipping? If it's a moon god (which I've heard, but they deny), why won't they say so? Wouldn't they be proud to represent that god if it were true? And, if it is a (false) moon god, where did that practice originate?
I've never heard a good explanation of how they separated from Gen 21, so I hope someone hear can help. Thanks!
---AlwaysOn on 9/19/06


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Pharisee, where ya been? We missed you!
Muslim rhetoric? So, none of it is true?
Ok, more questions: How did they get from God's promise and Him blessing Ishmael, to today? What happened after Genesis 21? Obviously God made a nation out of Ishamael's descendants, as promised, but when, how and why did the descendants part from God? And where did they get Allah?
---AlwaysOn on 9/19/06


to answer your question. NO, I do not personally know any muslims. If I ever meet one I will tell them about Jesus Christ and what He has done for me. Just because I don't know any personally does not mean I don't know what islam is all about. They are about terror, torture and killing all christians and now including the pope.
---shira_9639 on 9/19/06


Yes always on, that's pretty much Muslim Rhetoric.
---Pharisee on 9/19/06


Shira, I pray daily for God's will to be done in all of our conflicts and not man's will. Everyone has an agenda, but God's will is the only one that matters. Just out of curiosity, though, how can anyone rip our beliefs away? We believe what we believe, we know what we know and I don't see how anyone on earth could ever take that away. Please explain.
And, to repeat my earlier question to you, do you personally know any muslims?
---AlwaysOn on 9/19/06


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Shira 5965,God bless you for seeing what I am saying. Sometimes Christians don't seem to realize that unity isn't about having the same Theological beliefs, but unity is about praying for the same thing in Jesus Name. There is POWER in the Name of Jesus. Where two agree as touching anything on Earth it's done in Heaven. Where two or three are gathered there is Jesus in the midst of them. Agreement in faith is the strongest weapon Christians have against any foe. Jesus our intercessor has all power.
---Darlene_1 on 9/19/06


EVERYONE: Please read Darlene's post. Amen Darlene, Amen. Christians better wake up and stand up for our beliefs because they are slowly being ripped away.
---shira_5965 on 9/18/06


Madison, I did answer you but it wasn't posted.
---shira_9639 on 9/18/06


The World is held hostage by Islam to the point there's no free speech,only catering to their beliefs and demands. It's same thing nonChristians have done to Americans ,taking freedom to talk about God. When are Christians going to unite,pray against our enemies,enemies of Christ/cross and realize that our Lord has all power in heaven and earth.Deborah prayed at the head of an army and won victory,well aren't we the army of the Lord? Shouldn't we pray for God to fight our battles and win?
---Darlene_1 on 9/18/06


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Jack, I would summise I know more about muslims that you do. I have read and own many articles concerning their fake god. I know a lot about some things.... not everything about everything. The only muslim I know is mohammed ali and he is the one who converted lots over to islam.
---shira_9639 on 9/18/06


Please clarify for me if "Allah" originated from the word "El"? Do Muslim's worship God who promised both Abraham and Hagar to make Abraham's seed (Ishmael) a great nation?
My understanding is Islam originated with Ishmael & the God of Abraham, but certain Arabs later backslid into pagan religions and began to misuse the name of Allah therefore breeding a misunderstanding about the origin of the name and the God being worshipped. Can anyone factually verify or refute this?
---AlwaysOn on 9/18/06


Shira: You never answered my question. Are you suggesting we deport all Muslim US Citizens?
---Madison1101 on 9/18/06


Shira, do you know any muslims?
---AlwaysOn on 9/18/06


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** Jack, what does it matter if it is allah or mohammed? They are still killing christians. They love killing christians. Don't get so technical.**
Shira, my point is you pop off on things of which you clearly know very little. This is just one example.
Know what you're talking about next time.
---Jack on 9/18/06


I think what Jack is trying to say is that although their doctrine preached is one of Hate as spoken of by some yet we must not stoop to their level because Hate is Breaking the commandment of God "Thou shalt Not Kill"Hate kills the soul.
---Emcee on 9/18/06


madison, I know what islam is and I know what muslims are. What I said was a figure of speech but in all honesty we need to seal our borders especially to muslims. If you don't think they are trying to push their religeon world wide, you better think again. They have already threatened the pope and the west with annilation.
---shira_9639 on 9/18/06


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