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Gospel According To Satan

We know, with careful study, that Satan wants to be like the Most High God and Satan mimics everything God does. God has Christ, Satan will have the Antichrist, God has the Holy Spirit, Satan will have his false prophet, etc... My question is than, does Satan have his own gospel?

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Grace a license to sin?--Samuelbb7

"Sin" is defined in scripture. Examples:
1:transgression of the law, 1John 3:4
2: unbelief, John 16:9
3:unrighteousness, 1John 5:17

Which "sin" do you charge us with?
Christians are NOT under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:24, Gal 5:18). So we cannot be charged with this sin.

Our faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5, We cannot be charged with this sin.

We believe on Jesus, so we cannot be charged with this sin.

As for our physical failings, that's not sin that can be charged against us.
And grace is not a license to do wrong. God disciplines us. Consider King David with his adultery/murder.
---Haz27 on 5/23/14


Haz27
Both, our works are just what we are supposed to be doing. Luke 17:10
1Corithians 9:27
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
You say you have no sin.
1John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
But Seventh day Adventist agree with John.
1John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/23/14


Samuel, you said we are to:
1:"strive for sinlessness"
2:"commanded to live free from sin".

Which is it, as the latter excludes the former?

You speak of mans efforts at righteousness by works of the law. This opposes the gospel of grace.

As for 1John, it says we cannot sin (1John 3:9). My previous post explains why "sin" cannot be charged against us.

Rom 6:1,2 confirms Christians cannot sin.
Why?
Because our faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
We are not under the law, Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18.

We abide in Christ, and in him there is no sin, 1John 3:5.
To say Christians "sin" is to say there is sin in Christ.
---Haz27 on 5/22/14


As both you and Jerry have admitted that you fail to keep the 10C perfectly then what is the minimum level of obedience that is required so that we won't be lost? Haz27

Absolute perfect sinlessness is required. But we are not able to do this. So we must be under Grace and under Grace we are to strive for sinlessness by Love.

When we sin that does not put us under law. For to be under law is to mean to try to save our selves. We are however commanded to live free from sin.

Read IJohn


Rom 6:1,2

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Haz do you consider Grace a license to sin?
---Samuelbb7 on 5/22/14


Jerry. You said: "Sometimes I don't allow Him to keep me from sinning."

Sin=transgression of the law.
And whatever the law says IT SAYS TO THOSE UNDER IT, Rom 3:19.
So to be charged with "sin" means you're UNDER THE LAW.
Gal 2:18 if I rebuild the things which I destroyed (righteousness by works of the law), I MAKE MYSELF a transgressor/Sinner.

BUT, Christians are NOT under the law, Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18.
And where no law is, there is no transgression /Sin, Rom 4:15

Who shall lay ANYTHING (even sin) to the charge of God's elect?Rom 8:33

To fight the good fight of faith is to believe on Jesus, and thus not mix grace with works of the law
---Haz27 on 5/22/14




Haz: "by your own words you're saying that Jesus has not been able to keep you from sinning."

No, No, NO! My words never said that. Jesus IS able - just like the Bible says. It is me that is the problem. Sometimes I don't allow Him to keep me from sinning. But if I didn't believe that He was able, or that He even cared if I sinned (as in your case), I wouldn't even try to obey. I'd never fight the good fight of faith or run the race for the prize.



---jerry6593 on 5/22/14


Interesting,Satan's gospel yeah,like with Eve.." surely,you're going NOT going to die your eyes will open,like God's"
Something like I imagine the conversation...anything & 'every thing Satan's false or half truth..

Just tell your wife,"The Devil.made me do it!"
Point is any" lame dog escuse will.do."

God rules have never changed.


Love of Jesus! Elena
---Elena9555 on 5/21/14


//We are to follow the law because we are saved.//
---Samuelbb7 on 5/21/14

Hi Samuel. Do you agree with Jerry's claim that unless we keep the 10C then we are lost?
You seem to suggest this in your quote above.

As both you and Jerry have admitted that you fail to keep the 10C perfectly (as is required under the law, James 2:10) then what is the minimum level of obedience that is required so that we won't be lost?
---Haz27 on 5/21/14


// We believe in salvation by grace alone. The difference is that in your _______ religion, you believe that while Satan has the power to tempt you to sin, Jesus does not have the power to keep you from sinning.//
---jerry6593 on 5/21/14

If SDA's believe in salvation by grace then why do they mix works of the law with it? That is simply being lukewarm.

And as you have admitted you still sin then by your own words you're saying that Jesus has not been able to keep you from sinning.

Jerry, SDA doctrine has misled you. Believe on Jesus instead.
---Haz27 on 5/21/14


True Cluny he was not known by the name JESUS. But he was there since he has always been GOD and one with the Father.


Rom 6:1-4
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life

As Methodist and Calvinist taught before us. We are to follow the law because we are saved.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/21/14




Cluny:

1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Jesus was indeed the Lawgiver of Mt. Sinai. Do you think that Jesus was lying, wrong or just kidding when He wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger in stone?

Does Jesus ever change? If not, why would the Ten Commandments change?




---jerry6593 on 5/21/14


Haz: "Where we differ is SDA doctrine is a lukewarm mix of works of the law with grace."

That is not true! We believe in salvation by grace alone. The difference is that in your _______ religion, you believe that while Satan has the power to tempt you to sin, Jesus does not have the power to keep you from sinning. Our God is more powerful than yours, as:

Jud 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,



---jerry6593 on 5/21/14


\\Did Jesus command Abraham to sacrifice his son?
Did Jesus command Noah to build a boat?\\

The Son/Logos was not known as Jesus until incarnate in the womb of the Virgin Mary and given this name 8 days after His nativity according to the flesh at His circumcision.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/20/14


Did Jesus command Abraham to sacrifice his son?
Did Jesus command Noah to build a boat?
If He doesn't change, why doesn't He command the same from you?
The answer is different people, different commands, same God.
Heb 8:7 For if that first [covenant] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
If Jesus doesn't change, why a second covenant?
A: because the first covenant was faulty, even though it was God who made it.
These commands and covenants do not change the nature of God and His Christ, for they are promises kept.
Let's remember the covenants of old and live in the new.
---micha9344 on 5/20/14


Jerry. The law is just, good and holy, Rom 7:12. Nobody denies this.

Where we differ is SDA doctrine is a lukewarm mix of works of the law with grace.
For example you said: "Do you think that you can keep on sinning right into heaven?"
I recall Francis's answer to this question. He said "No, No, No!"

Jerry, you admit you do not keep the law perfectly. Have you sinned so much that you'll be excluded from Heaven? How do you know what level of sin is too much?

But under grace our righteousness is not judged by the law. Christ is the END of the law for righteousness, Rom 10:4. Instead it's our faith that is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.

We cannot mix works of the law with grace, Rom 11:6.
---Haz27 on 5/20/14


Haz: You are preaching the gospel of Satan - "Do as thou wilt."

Do you think that Jesus was lying, wrong or just kidding when He wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger in stone?

Does Jesus ever change? If not, why would the Ten Commandments change?

Which of the Ten Commandments do you feel comfortable in breaking? All Ten? One?

Do you think that you can keep on sinning right into heaven?

Do you think that Jesus sinned (broke the Ten Commandments)?

Do you think that Jesus is your example?



---jerry6593 on 5/20/14


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Samuel. Whatever the law say it says to those UNDER IT Rom3:19
If you're under the law then that means you can be charged with sin/transgression of the law. That's how one makes themselves a sinner, Gal 2:18.

Re Matt 25, this refers to preaching the gospel to the spiritually hungry needing spiritual meat/drink, which is Christ, 1Cor 10:3,4.

Spiritually naked needing robes of righteousness, garment of salvation, Isa 61:10).

Spiritual strangers from the covenants of promise/without Christ Eph 2:12,19.

Spiritually sick (Isa 1:5,6), in prison (Isa 61:1).

The sheep preach the gospel of grace to the lost, thus letting their light shine, Matt 5:14-16.
---Haz27 on 5/19/14


Jerry. Keeping the law means obeying it perfectly, James 2:10. But you admitted you do NOT do this. Are you saying you follow the gospel of Satan?

Hypocrisy is defined as pretending to be virtuous. The legalists do this. They preach righteousness by works of the law but never attain the "imparted" righteousness they profess they have.
Reminds me of the claim by SDA's like Francis saying "No, No, No" to salvation for anyone who does not obey the law.

Christians however do keep his commandments, 1John3:23.
1:Believe on Jesus (righteousness by faith)
2:Love one another. And love forgives 7x70. We show the same grace to others as was shown to us.
---Haz27 on 5/19/14


Thanks Samuel,
but I disagree, that Jesus taught the Ten Commandments. He only mention them when He said,
"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets, I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17.
He was preaching He came to fulfill the Law. In fact He gave other laws not in the Ten Commandments to show those who believed they were keeping the Law that it was not possible to keep the Ten Commandments (Matthew 5:21-37.
But He only taught the two Commandments I mentioned before.
The Law does not save anyone. It only shows their sin. And those under the two Commandments are believers only in Christ who fulfilled the Law. Agape
---Luke on 5/19/14


A little leaven (doctrine of works of the law) leavens the whole lump, Gal 5:9. Haz27

This is true. Those who say that their keeping the law helps save them are guilty of this. But Jesus in Luke 17:10 says just keeping the Commandments is not enough.

Paul wrote that those who follow JESUS are to:

Rom 6:1,2
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Read all Romans 3,5,6 & 7
When you love GOD and your neighbor you do not want to break any of the laws of GOD. In fact you want to help others. Read Matthew 25
---Samuelbb7 on 5/19/14


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Haz: You've got it all backwards. Satan's doctrine is not the keeping of the Law, but rather the breaking of it.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Further, the leaven of the Pharisees is not works of the Law, but hypocrisy.

Luk 12:1 .... Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Anyone who says he loves Jesus but doesn't keep His Commandments is an hypocrite!

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.



---jerry6593 on 5/19/14


Satan's gospel calls for man to attain righteousness by works of the law. And Satan is very subtle with his gospel. Hence we even see a gospel that offers a lukewarm mix of works of the law with grace.

Such gospels deny Christ, Tit 1:16.
We cannot mix works of the law with grace, Rom 11:6.

Beware the leaven (doctrine of works of the law) of the legalists, Matt 16:12.
A little leaven (doctrine of works of the law) leavens the whole lump, Gal 5:9.
---Haz27 on 5/17/14


Samuel, right on right on Jesus is the word in the old testament and he is the word made flesh in the new testament. He was the power of the old covenant he is the redeemer in the new covenant. God is good all the time.
---Bryan on 5/16/14


Thanks Samuel. You saved me the time of educating those who don't realize that Jesus IS the God of the Old Testament, and that He never changes.



---jerry6593 on 5/16/14


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Actually Luke JESUS did give the Ten Commandments and all the other ones. The two on Love are quotes from Moses. Who GOD which includes JESUS gave to his people. They are not from the New Testament but the Old.

Secondly JESUS taught on the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath while on earth. Read Matthew 5-7.


Deuteronomy 6:5

And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.


Lev 19:34

But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself, for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/15/14


satan has no more rights to the earth Jesus stripped him of those rights. The only way he has a chance is to get believers in God to doubt what God gave us in his word. Just like he did to Adam got him off the truth just a little and look what it costs God to get it back to us. We will not be here when he is revealed cause believers would rise up in the Holy Spirit and put a stop to him. When the church is gone then he will reveal himself. Claiming to be God.
---Bryan on 5/14/14


/My question is than, does Satan have his own gospel?\-Ryan on 9/18/06
Mat 4:8-9 ...the devil ...sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them, And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
As opposed to:
Rev 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for [thou] only [art] holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee, for thy judgments are made manifest.
And:
Jdg 21:25 In those days [there was] no king in Israel: every man did [that which was] right in his own eyes.
As opposed to:
Luke 4:8 ...Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
---micha9344 on 5/14/14


The only power satan has on this earth is what he can steal from you. And if you don't understand who you are in Christ Jesus. He is steals it from you. John 10 , 10 satan only has the one think on his mind get you off the earth just like he did Jesus. When the body of Christ is off the earth, who will stop him. Jesus said his work on the earth was finished. He told us to go in his Name and share the Gospel
---Bryan on 5/14/14


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//1John 5:2
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.//

You do know that Jesus commands are not the Ten Commandments right? You keep mentioning that but you are not giving the truth. Jesus had only two Commandments.
"You shall love the Lord your God with all of your heart, with all of your soul and with all of your mind." And remember, without all of your soul, a part of man.
The Second is like it,
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the Prophets" Matthew 22:37-40.
When you give scripture, you should make it clear what commandments Jesus was talking about. Agape
---Luke on 5/13/14


\\Many people tell lies about us. The big problem is that many do not actually check to see if the lies are true so they pass them on.\\

Like saying the Papal Tiara (unused since 1965) has "Vicarius Filius Dei" on it?

Of that the Pope (which one never specified) changed Saturday to Sunday?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/13/14


Dear Jerry

Many people tell lies about us. The big problem is that many do not actually check to see if the lies are true so they pass them on.

Many people do not actually check to see if something is true before believing it.

We should always speak lovingly.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 5/13/14


Samuel: They say that ignorance is bliss. This r.w. character must be a very happy fellow.



---jerry6593 on 5/13/14


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...7th day adv.,.. perverted bibles, anything other than belief, repentance and faith in the atoning work of Jesus is another gospel, satan's gospel. r.w.

Since Seventh day Adventist believe in the Lord JESUS CHRIST we teach repentance from sin, salvation by grace alone through the atoning work of or High Priest JESUS CHRIST. We do not teach another gospel. We simply agree with Our Methodist ancestors that those who are saved will follow GOD and keep his commandments.


1John 5:2

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 5/12/14


God has His Ten Commandment Law - the foundation of His government. Satan has his own law, as stated in the Satanic Bible: "Do what thou wilt, that is the whole of the law". That sounds strangely like some Christians who claim that they are free to break God's Commandments as they see fit.



---jerry6593 on 5/11/14


We see in Genesis Satan tricked Adam and Eve by saying has the Lord really said. I think there is something to say about all the versions of the Bible. God wrote the Bible in Hebrew and Greek in its original inspired text. The closest we have which is word for word is the KJV. Where the KJV translaters didn't know how to translate a word it is italicized to show us this may be not in the original languages. All of the new versions NIV, ESV, RSV etc have to be 10 % different to get a copyright. This means the original words are changed or added or taken out. I think this is how satan mimics the Words of God by coming with his own versions. I would stick with the KJV.
---Paul on 4/25/14


The gospel belongs to Jesus Christ, satan is there to distort this gospel. He tries to bring his own evil version of the things GOD has perfectly done and said. Read Galatians 1:7
---caroa9397 on 8/21/08


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Thank you, and he certainly does. SATAN is a REAL Person. 1. He has a false trinity. 2.He has his synagogues. 3. He has his doctrines. 4. He has his mysteries. 5. He has his throne. 6. He has his kingdom. 7. He has his worshipers. 8. He has his angels. 9. He has his ministers. Satan has more preachers than you can shake a stick at. More than God has. 10. He has his miracles. 11. He has his sacrifices. 12. He has his fellowship. 13. He has his armies. The gospel of Satan.
---catherine on 8/19/08


satan does have his own bible. It is the bible for satan worship. It certainly was not penned by God.
---shira_9639 on 8/19/08


Any gospel other than the Gospel of Jesus is the work of Satan.
---Ben on 2/21/07


I agree in part with Jeanne, that there is no good news with satan, & rw's point is well made - anything not Christ centred is indeed satan's 'gospel', ie good news for him, not for man. An interesting read is "the gospel according to Satan', by G. Martyn Webb. (Xulon Press) I think it is available through Amazon. It is fictional, but it does make you wonder. It follows Satan's minion's attempts to kill / trip up the Christ, and in their ignorance they see the cross as their ultimate success.
---gary on 2/8/07


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Satan does not have a "gospel" Gospel means good news he brings nothing good.
---Jeanne on 11/19/06


catholics, jw's, mormons, 7th day adv., buddhism, islam, baptismal regeneration, perverted bibles, anything other than belief, repentance and faith in the atoning work of Jesus is another gospel, satan's gospel.
---r.w. on 11/18/06


Augua - *I was only quoting Kelly on Apostolic Succession, not Tradition itself.*
But again Kelly's understanding of apostolic succession may be considerably different from that of the Roman Church.
Many of the early churches claimed authority of their beliefs as they were founded by the Apostles and elders were appointed by them.
=Successors were often elected by the local congregations and seldom by local bishops.
---lee on 9/30/06


***augua - problem with quoting these historical sources is that they are all too often presented out of context.***

I totally agree, Lee. I encounter this all the time.

*For instance while J.N.D. Kelly may indicate that there is support for the RC concept of tradition...*

I was only quoting Kelly on Apostolic Succession, not Tradition itself.
---augua9846 on 9/30/06


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augua - problem with quoting these historical sources is that they are all too often presented out of context. For instance while J.N.D. Kelly may indicate that there is support for the RC concept of tradition , he probably did not view tradition in the same sense as the Catholic church does in elevating tradition to the level of Scripture.
---lee on 9/28/06


**My question is than, does Satan have his own gospel?**
Yes, it's technically called pre-millenial pre-tribulation dispensationalism, otherwise known as waiting for the Rapture.
---Jack on 9/28/06


#2.

"and neither receiving addition nor [suffering] curtailment [in the truths which she believes]; and [it consists in] reading [the word of God] without falsification, and a lawful and diligent exposition in harmony with the Scriptures, both without danger and without blasphemy; and [above all, it consists in] the pre-eminent gift of love, which is more precious than knowledge, more glorious than prophecy, and which excels all the other gifts [of God]"
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


Irenaeus, Against Heresies (189 A.D)

"True knowledge is [that which consists in] the doctrine of the apostles, and the ancient constitution of the Church throughout all the world, and the distinctive manifestation of the body of Christ according to the successions of the bishops, by which they have handed down that Church which exists in every place, and has come even unto us, being guarded and preserved without any forging of Scriptures, by a very complete system of doctrine," cont
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


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#2. "Far be it from me to censure the successors of the apostles, who with holy words consecrate the body of Christ, and who make us Christians. Having the keys of the kingdom of heaven, they judge men to some extent before the day of judgment, and guard the chastity of the bride of Christ."
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


St. Jerome Letters 14:8 (396 A.D.)

#1 "Driven from this line of defence you will appeal to the example of the clergy. These, you will say, remain in their cities, and yet they are surely above criticism..."

con't..
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


*Last*

"For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority -- that is, the faithful everywhere -- inasmuch as the Apostolic Tradition has been preserved continuously by those who are everywhere."

END
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


"[we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops... "

cont..
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


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St. Irenaeus Against Heresies 3:3:2
"Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings;"
cont..
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


"Unlike the alleged secret tradition of the Gnostics, it was entirely public and open, having been entrusted by the apostles to their successors, and by these in turn to those who followed them, and was visible in the Church for all who cared to look for it" (Early Christian Doctrines, 37).
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


I do have a portion of one from another Protestant however; This was written by J.N.D. Kelly (a very reputable historian):

"[W]here in practice was [the] apostolic testimony or tradition to be found? . . . The most obvious answer was that the apostles had committed it orally to the Church, where it had been handed down from generation to generation..."

cont...
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


Lee, Philip Schaff was a Protestant, so naturally there's going to be some bias there - *especially* on a subject like apostolic succession (we're talking authority here). I have the same problem with one of my books on the ECF's. The author - being Protestant - omitted a large portion of quotes from the ECF's that were too Catholic (still a really good source though).

cont
---augua9846 on 9/27/06


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Emcee - Hebrews 4:13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

I do not have a problem with what God says through Holy Writ. But as a proponent of Sola Scriptura I limited my doctrinal beliefs to Scripture alone. Note that I am not saying that I use the Scripture as a guide on how to iron my shirts, but use Scripture as the ultimate source for my doctrinal beliefs alone.
---lee on 9/27/06


Lee::Your denial is your belief, not what comes out of your mouth.You do not answer to me ITS GOD'S word & to Him you are accountable.
---Emcee on 9/27/06


Emcee - we all believe that God's word is true including "Thou art Peter ----I shall build MY CHURCH" but 'my church' is NOT the Roman Catholic Church but simply all those that are in Christ Jesus.
---lee on 9/27/06


Emcee - I rather doubt that you can find any sufficient historian source that indicates that Peter was given some kind of authority that was passed downward to the bishops of Rome.
I will stay with recognized historical authorities such as Phillip Schaff and what we see in the writings of the church fathers.
---lee on 9/27/06


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LEE::Your PS using History Is counterfeit against GOD'S Word I believe HIS WORD,you can believe History"Thou art Peter ----I shall build MY CHURCH" The universal church of God CC not sda or jw or any other...
---Emcee on 9/25/06


Lee:Replying to your suggestion"IT is obvious that denominations Rcc& other's ruled by mere men.One ruined other will expound the Gospel"The CC is the only DOCUMENTED church By HIS word -No question-.Firstly this is your supposition.2ndlyHow can others expound His Gospel when they are not in agreement! Whose purpose would be served,You cant agree on the day of worship!who will be your leader? you have removed Jesus& HIS church."HE who is NOT with me is AGAINST ME" Sorry-ROCK STANDS.
---Emcee on 9/24/06


Emcee -P.S. Both history as well as Scripture does not confirm your belief that the Apostle Peter headed the church and passed downward any authority of his office.

Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance {Greek stumbling block} to me. For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man.
---lee on 9/23/06


Emcee - He knew about the denominations& what it would do to HIS Flock, scatter them - this is Satans plan. why did he announce MY CHURCH under Peter--to show us direction.

It is obvious that denominations including that of the Roman Catholic are ruled by mere men - some having obtained their office either by simony or other political means. So if one denomination is ruined, then another will still be able to herald the gospel message to the world.
---lee on 9/23/06


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NV_Barbara , I love the way you put that, you just got a vote. God Bless.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/22/06


Satan doesn't have a gospel. His hatred towards God is so intense, we as mere mortals couldn't conceive it. But the time is short and he'll rule here on Earth for a short period of time. He'll do everything in his power to draw humans away from God - mimicking everything Christ did while he was on Earth to fool even the elect, if that were possible. The AntiChrist will perform miracles, heal the sick, etc. to make people believe he is the Christ, then...
---Steveng on 9/21/06


yes, it is called Devil worshipping. Those in Christ worship Christ, those whom are not in Christ, are of Satan, so therefore they worship him.
---Rebecca_D on 9/21/06


Exactly right Mima, God doesn't grade on a curve! The Word tells us to be holy. Holiness cannot exist in us if we are prone to ignore our 'little sins.'
---NV_Barbara on 9/20/06


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This is a dead issue if you know the words of Jesus. They are the gospel.
---Pharisee on 9/19/06


Bloggers of CN::Have you ever considered Jesus's words "ONE Flock ONE shepherd"why did he say this? He knew about the denominations& what it would do to HIS Flock, scatter them - this is Satans plan. why did he announce MY CHURCH under Peter--to show us direction. Why did he give us Apostles & 4 gospels with all Doctrines congruent? He also gave us a free will & interlect with the Help AD "Come to me all who are laboured & burdened & I will refresh you.
---Emcee on 9/19/06


We can think of "Satan's gospel" has being the false teachings that has crept into the church. For example; "baptismal regeneration"
Oh I'm okay I got baptized. Another false teaching that you hear many times, I'm not too bad a sort of person I have never killed anyone or anything, or well my good things outweigh my bad. Those who are lost follow many false beliefs and teachings.
---mima on 9/19/06


Oh yeah, Satan has many false gospels. He turns himself into an angel of light, and makes what is being preached seem alright. Some of it is very subtle indeed. There is none more subtle than that which has an appearance of being totally correct but it is laced with subtle falsehoods all the way through.
---Helen_5378 on 9/18/06


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The word gospel means "to announce good news , to bring a good message ". Satan certainly is not the bearer of good news! If anyone takes the False Gospels Bible Quiz they may see the doctrines of Satan's false teachers certainly appeals to many people (past, present & future).
---Leon on 9/18/06


satan's gospel is that he convinces people that he doesn't exist. I find that lots of folks don't even believe there's a devil. He is a liar and the father of lies, could that be considered his gospel? Whatever he says is lies? It's a gospel of lies whereas Jesus is a gospel of Truth. Jesus is the truth.
---Donna9759 on 9/18/06


greetings,the outbreak took form as lucifers declaration of liberty.the cause was stated under three points.lucifer charged that the Father did not really exist,the Father was a myth.he protested against jesus to assume sovereignty of his universe in the name of the Father.with desision he pointed out that assention beings were traitors to their mortal fellows in that there was only a mythical eternal destiny.he said ascenders should enjoy their personal liberty
---earl on 9/18/06


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