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Is There Free Will In Heaven

After Jesus returns and takes us home, will we have a free will in heaven?

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God bless you in your continued studies to rightly divide the Word of Truth, lionel.

SDA's believe that angels no longer have a free will and that humans will no longer have a free will in heaven.
You need to study about angels to discern that their free will has not been removed.
Without that understanding, you'll fall for the lie that humans will have their free will removed in heaven, as a robot would.
---lovable_linda on 12/18/07


SDA's reference to freewill ...

If we had free will in heaven, then that would mean that we would have to have the sin nature and would be capable of sinning against God and backsliding or being thrown out of heaven. None of that is in Scripture."


lionel, continue in your studies, and you will find that all of the above is not in Scripture.

Study the angels, lionel, and you will clearly find, without the Clear Word paraphrased bible, that humans do not lose their freewill.
---lovable_linda on 12/18/07


LOVABLE LINDA
The question was not about angels.
It is about the believers having free will or not in heaven.
And what is SDA.
---lionel on 12/17/07


LOVABLE LINDA
The question was not about angels.
It is about the believers having free will or not in heaven.
And what is SDA.
---lionel on 12/17/07


No scripture declares that angels have no free will. From the fall, God's holy angels have the freedom to remain in that holy estate into which they were placed by creation or to leave their first estate for a lower one. "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 1:6). Clearly, they are not robots unable to do anything but obey God.
---lovable_linda on 12/17/07




Angels were created with the ability and responsibility of self-determination. They can choose to leave the estate of heaven by an act of will. Or, they can choose to stay with God. Satan's motivation is revealed in his temptation of Adam and Eve in the Garden. He told them, "and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:5).

That is what moved him to rebel and that is what he used on Eve.
---lovable_linda on 12/17/07


Satan told them, "and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil" (Genesis 3:5)..

What other cult has used this very promise to entice their members?
---lovable_linda on 12/17/07


All of the scripture references just came up.

Aren't you SDA, lionel?
---lovable_linda on 12/17/07


LOVABAL LINDA

If the bible is silent about the topic,tell me where you get your information.
If you are speculating,just say so or show scriptures to sopport your position.
The word says no one has ascended into heaven except he{Jesus}who have decended.
It would seem like the one{JESUS}who realy knows how we will be in Heaven,did not write much obout it.
---LIONEL on 12/16/07


LOVABAL LINDA

If the bible is silent about the topic,tell me where you get your information.
If you are speculating,just say so or show scriptures to sopport your position.
The word says no one has ascended into heaven except he{Jesus}who have decended.
It would seem like the one{JESUS}who realy knows how we will be in Heaven,did not write much obout it.
---LIONEL on 12/16/07




Hopefully (more correctly, certainly!), God will complete His good work in me (which began in earnest just beyond the moment I said "Your Will be done" within the freely-given forgiving blood of His Only Begotten Son Yahshuah/Jesus/Emmanuel) of tuning my will to harmonize with His Will so that I will not need that 'Free-will' distraction when He assigns me my new scriptural career of reigning and ruling with His Son throughout the balance of eternity (sorry about the world's longest sentence!).
---Mel on 12/16/07


Upon reaching heaven and truly seeing the effects of sin, no one will desire it. Freewill will alway exsist. There is always the possibility of rebellion but knowing sins effect we will never want it again.
---dan on 12/16/07


Paul said For what I WILL to do, that I do not practice but what I hate that I do ROM.7:15 bascily we don't have a free will now our will is bonded by sin But in Heaven it will be in bondage to the Lord Christ
---Billy on 12/15/07


Lovable linda ... I really don't know if we will eat food in heaven, nor whether there will be fruit-bearing plants, or bees & honey.
But if our bodies resurrect (and there are different views on this) I suppose they would need nourishment to sustain them, or at least to keep the organs doing what they were designed to do.
As for whether there is a Starbucks, I could tolerate that ... but I would hope not to be faced with people stuffing away on BigMacs
---alan_of_UK on 12/15/07


The angels who fell with Lucifer had free will.So did he.They were in Heaven and chose to do wrong.They, being angels, were a little higher than us.That being said, we should have free will in Heaven also.But, now, and then in the future, I want to stay with Jesus!!
---donald on 12/15/07


very good question. I had done research for you, and there is no certain answer except that, Do you remember Lucifer was an angel until he blasphemied and disobeyed God? Then God threw Lucifer in hell. Paul says it is better to remain in ChristPhilippians 1:21-25
---Victoria on 12/15/07


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Do we have free will on earth? That is the real question.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/14/07


We will always have a free will.God do not
force one to serve Him.
---Jack_8773 on 12/14/07


At Salvation We are Given A New, Godly Nature

We are indwelt with the Holy Spirit and given a new nature.
2 Peter 1:4 states "For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, in order that by them you might become partakers of the divine nature"

"For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man" (Rom 7:22).

Those who are saved are given a nature that is radically different than the fallen nature inherited from Adam and Eve.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07


The best example is Jesus Himself. Christ, even though He didn't sin, has freewill.

"We shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection." 1 John 3:2, "We know that, when he appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see him just as he is."

Jesus was sinless. He fulfilled all of the law and was well pleasing to the Father (Matt 3:17). So by partaking in His divine nature, we also become able to resist sin.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07


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You can retain your freewill and hate/loath to sin. Jesus had freewill even though he never sinned.

John 10:17-18. "I lay down My life so that I may take it again. No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own.. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again." Jesus laid down His Life of His own volition. Temptation in the wilderness (Matt. 4) Jesus had freedom to do what He pleased. What he chose was not to sin.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07


Freewill remains but we lose capacity to sin. Salvation causes this to be true.
Satan will not be there to tempt anyone.

The choice of Adam and Eve to sin against God resulted in drastic changes.
Our belief in Jesus produces an irreversible change in us as well. "Born again" John 3:3, our new relationship with God. "New man" (Eph 4), "If any man is in Christ he is a new creation, all things have passed away, behold all has become new" (2 Cor. 5:17).
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07


A choice of things to eat, Al?
Who says we'll be eating much of anything?
I doubt that there's much of a need for indoor plumbing and wastewater treatment plants. Then someone would have to do the dishes and do the cooking/wait on the people.
Do you think there's a "Star"bucks up there?
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07


Of course, we'll have a freewill.
Angels didn't lose their freewill just because one third of them were/are in rebellion.
Angels still have a freewill and God won't take ours away either.
---lovable_linda on 12/14/07


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Who cares? As Long as we are with the Lord. And free from pain...and Loved!
It is paradise. so I'll take it!
---lisa on 12/14/07


I hope there will be a choice of things to eat. Otherwise it would be a little bit like a school canteen
---Alan8869_of_UK on 12/14/07


Not a free will of rebellion such as natural men now has. But rather a free will of the submission, obedience made possible by our complete understanding of what the father wants. Like a pool ball what falls into a pocket the individual's mind will completely accept the Lord's directions.
---mima on 4/10/07


Some people believe anything, especially if the preacher says it is true. Does it line up completely with God's Word though?
---Helen_5378 on 9/23/06


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Paul, who claimed to have come to visions and revelations of the Lord, was caught up to the third heaven and he heard words that couldn't even be uttered. I wonder if that has anything to do with joy inexpressible and full of glory?
---Linda6563 on 9/22/06


Donna ... I remain sceptical. I don't know when Jesse D was taken for his jaunt to heaven, but God obviously chose the wrong man to give the message to, for Jesse has not been very effective in passing on the message.
I have never heard of the man.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/22/06


Alan8869_of_UK - I should have clarified, but ran out of space. The Lord Jesus had a SPECIFIC PURPOSE for taking Jesse D. to heaven. Jesus said, "Tell my people I'm coming back." Jesse told Jesus, "They know that." At that point, Jesus got stern with Jesse, shook his head NO, and said, "NO, they don't know that I'm coming SOON, SOON I'm coming." Alan, Jesus had a specific mission and reason for taking Jesse to heaven. Sorry your so skeptical, but it's the truth.
---Donna9759 on 9/22/06


Since the exercise of Free Will is being in a state of rebellion against God I would not think so. Romans 8:28-34
---Phil_the_Elder on 9/22/06


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Donna ... I would be very doubtful of anyone who claimed to have been taken to heaven for a look round.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/22/06


Since this blog is about heaven, if any of you want to hear what it's like there, etc., I highly recommend listening to Jesse Duplantis's testimony regarding when the Lord took him to heaven for 5 hours. It is awesome and profound. Get the DVD's because you get an extra DVD with people who ask him questions. It is awesome, I was deeply touched by what he was telling us.
---Donna9759 on 9/21/06


Sue, a free will to do what? I'm just trying to figure out what's on your mind. It's a good question. I don't know the answer but it sounds like the others here do.
I have heard testimonies from 2 different anointed men of God and they both said the same thing. There are people there worshipping, some are fellowshipping, and Alan, this one family was going on a picnic, so I guess they have Potato Salad in heaven. Sue, what do you want to do in heaven? What's your favorite thing to do?
---Donna9759 on 9/21/06


2/... If we had free will in heaven, then that would mean that we would have to have the sin nature and would be capable of sinning against God and backsliding or being thrown out of heaven. None of that is in Scripture.
---Helen_5378 on 9/21/06


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We will not have need of a free will in heaven. We will have put on the incorruptible, and will not have any need of earthly things any longer. Our free will is for this life only, and it is in this life that we get to choose to serve the Lord.
---Helen_5378 on 9/21/06


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