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Did Judas Have A Free-Will

If christians believe in free-will, then what about Judas? Was he given free-will?

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You bet. Judas had a free will and to say otherwise turns him into a fallen angel or product of serpent seed doctrine - which is followed by those in the occult.
---zerph on 7/21/08

God does mysterious things the birth and purpose of Judas was one of them!
---Carla5754 on 7/21/08

If one cannot judge whether or not, Judas went to hell that person would also have trouble judging up from down, right from wrong!!!! I believe, not being able to judge Judas is likened unto a house built on sand.
---Mima on 7/21/08

One could argue that Judas's actions were instrumental in our salvation. Without his act of betrayal, Jesus may not have been arrested and put to death. One cannot judge and say with certainty that he is in heaven or hell. That is for God alone to judge.
---tim on 7/20/08

yes judas had free will. he willingly took the money because his heart was not in the right place. he misunderstood what messiah actually ment and what his mission was. He put himself before God and tried to bring about something that he wasn't supposed to do. Jesus knew his heart and he knew that Judas had already betreayed him and he was offering him forgivness if Judas would have taken it.
---Jared on 11/28/06

earl, Judas abandoned the flock. Into the house of God we walked in company, but he put forward his hand against such as be at peace with him: he broke his covenant. Even a man of my friendship, whom I trusted in him eating of my bread, has lifted up the heel against me. He is brought down to the pit of destruction, men of blood and deceit will not live half their days. Blot them from the Book of Life, and with the righteous let not be written, from which fell Judas whom goes into his own place.
---Eloy on 9/26/06

Darlene, Thanks for the reference. I get what you're talking about now.
---tofurabby on 9/26/06

tofurabby,John 13:27 shows Jesus giving Judas the sop.
---Darlene_1 on 9/26/06

Ah, ok... I thought maybe it was an acronym for something. Does the Bible tell us Christ dipped the bread? For some reason I dont remember that.
---tofurabby on 9/26/06

furabby,if you have a small mop type applicator you can sop BBQue sauce on meat on the grill by dipping the mop in the sauce. Christ used a piece of bread to make a sop of and dipped into the food,he sopped the food,which he then gave to Judas. So a sop is a piece of food dipped or steeped in liquid. There is also a Southern expression I sopped the water up with a rag.
---Darlene_1 on 9/25/06

Darlene, I guess I am behind on the acronyms. What is sop?
---tofurabby on 9/25/06

Judas had free will just like the rest of us. I honestly believe that Judas wasn't saved at all. He knew who Jesus was, he saw him raise the dead, he knew the power of God. but yet the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. He had a choice, and he chose to betray Jesus over 30 pieces of silver.
---Rebecca_D on 9/25/06

Demon possesed people do not have free will when they are being actively used by the Devil.
I don't recall the scripture showing Judas being possesed before the last supper.
His decision to betray couldn't have come while possesed, because at that point he had NO CHOICE. His personal rejection of Christ and subsequent decision had to come some time sooner. Jesus said to him "what you are going to do, do quickly." This shows plan and intent long before the actual occurance.
---Pharisee on 9/25/06

Tofurabby,thank you for the information. Evidently Satan did enter Judas before he was given sop,but I have to wonder why did he need the sop for Satan to enter again if he had already entered him before the dinner. That's puzzling.
---Darlene_1 on 9/25/06

earl, the Bible is clear:
"But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew FROM THE BEGINNING who they were that believed not, and who should betray him." John 6:64
"Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and ONE OF YOU IS A DEVIL? He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve." John 6:70-71
---tofurabby on 9/25/06

greetings,on the matter of predestiny of judas,one would have to open the book of eternal life and such book is not permitted for mortals to engage in reading,thats why it is in addition a roll call would have to be announced by Gabriel,who the Most High anounces to him.did not one man ask God not to remove his name from the book?and is it not jesus' mercy that can forgive not mans predestiny judgement upon judas?has any one read from the book of life for proof in this matter?
---earl on 9/25/06

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Darlene, Luke 22:3 "Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve." This shows that Judas was possessed by Satan himself.
---tofurabby on 9/25/06

Elder , I never said one can't lose their salvation, what are you talking about? Do you have proof of that? A Christian must Abide and Continue in God's Truth period, or they are not Abiding in Christ.--Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/24/06

Yes, Judas had a freewill, he freely chose to be a traitor.
---Eloy on 9/24/06

Judas had free will. I think Judas was deceived by Satan, maybe because of his, and another disciple's, association with the "Zealots", who were bent on seeing Israel triumph over the Gentiles. They expected Jesus, "Messiah," to lead them to victory. Judas was, perhaps, impatient, and urged on by Satan, decided to force Jesus' hand...put Him where He would HAVE to rise up and take control. Instead, Satan took control of Judas! It was foreknown by God but could have been any disciple.
---Donna2277 on 9/24/06

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Demon posessed-YES.
When though? Last supper.
Before that, did he on his own get the idea to betray Jesus or do you think someone approached him and tempted him?
I think he was tempted, and he chose to betray, and in this became possesed. The choices he made led to his condition, so he had free will.
What's your point Moderator?

Moderator: I thought Judas was possessed prior to his decision to betray. Do the possessed still have a free will?
---Pharisee on 9/24/06

To be posssesed by Satan or any other spirit reqires some agreement with those spirits.
I agree Judas was possesed, but he knew what Jesus was talking about when he said "do it quickly" If you notice this is when the Bible says Satan entered him.
He acted upon a temptation presented to him earlier or he'd have wondered what the phrase meant. Jesus didn't tell him to betray him, Judas' heart had done that already and through that agreement with Satan he became possesed.
---Pharisee on 9/24/06

If anyone knows scripture which shows Judas was always demon possessed I'd like to know it. According to John 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered him. Then said Jesus unto him,That thou doest ,do quickly. This seems to show until the sop,although Jesus had to know who was choosen for him to give the sop to,that Judas wasn't possessed by evil until after it was done.
---Darlene_1 on 9/24/06

Mrs. Morgan #2
The Bible has warning for us about these people. We're warned to STAY AWAY from them 2nd Peter 2. They didn't loose their salvation, there satan's children, who've come to kill and destroy. However He who is in you is stronger then he who satan is working through in this world.
---kathr4453 on 9/24/06

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Mrs. Morgan,it was prophesied about Judas's fall. He represents the imposter within the church. There are many imposters giving lip service, as they too are SELLING Jesus, making millions off of Him, leading people away from the redeemer, into an Earthly Kingdom farce of the renewed Garden of Eden.
These Judas's would include:
RCC,Mormonisn,JW's,SDA's,New Ager:Rich Warren,Robert Shuller, CS Lewis, Ravi Zacharias, Paula White, Benny Hinn, the TBN founders..Crouch(sp),Joel Osteen, and many many more.
---kathr4453 on 9/24/06

Moderator: Jesus knew who He chose to complete His mission. He knew each person, Judas included.
Jesus was very clear about Judas. And you are right He said, in John 6:70-71 that Judas was a devil and/or demon possessed.
---Elder on 9/24/06

In another post Mrs. Morgan said you cannot lose your Salvation and now says that Judas lost his. Wow, what a confusion!
We never see Judas' salvation experience anywhere in Scripture.
He never lost his Salvation because he never had it.
Even Johnny Cash asked, "What is TRUTH?"
---Elder on 9/24/06

greetings,if judas was posessed then he did not sin and the sin bearer would be the devil.if the devil made him do it,he would have been without physical control and not in his normal mind therefore having no physical self control,even if he tried to refrain from being a this not what posession is,mind and physical control?
---earl on 9/23/06

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(2.)A born-again Christian can "fall", and some never get back up, oh some think they do but "their fruits tell another story". A Christian's only saftey is in Continuing and Abiding in the Lord, Yielding to His Truth/Word, if they stop doing that, they are gambling with their soul(Matthew 16:26). Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/23/06

(1.)Some people don't think that Judas was righteous at one time, but can a person fall from unrighteousness or righteousness? God warns Christians to "Take heed, lest you fall (1 Corinthians 10:12,13), but still some "so-called" Christian's claim that "falling" isn't possible after salvation, that's pure deceit....
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/23/06

Moderator, Judas fell because of transgression(sin)(Acts 1:25), when a person falls and isn't repentant(meaning they don't produce the fruits of godly repentance), they are vulnable to devils of all kind, on very dangerous territory because God is no longer with them while they are in such a rebellious fallen state. *Satan himself entered Judas sometime after he fell(Luke 22:3), God gives everyone space/time to repent, but for some, they don't, and reach the point of no return.
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/23/06

We know he wasn't tempted beyond what he could bear or the Holy Ghost is a liar speaking through Paul when he says in 1 Corinthians 10:13 that God doesn't do that.
If Judas didn't have a choice then he was chosen, even born to be destoyed, and that's not what God wanted for anyone.
The temptation and argument was placed before Judas and he took it agreeing with the Pharisees that Jesus was a blasphemer and needed to be punished. He later said "I've betrayed innocent blood."

Moderator: Was Judas possessed by satan, or demons. I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
---Pharisee on 9/22/06

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I beleive Jesus being GOD in the flesh already knew what 12 to pick and who out of the 12 would betray him so The Propecy could be fulfilled...Give GOD all the PRAISE and GLORY.
---JIM on 9/22/06

Donna, I agree he used his free will to turn from Christ allowing Satan to possess him. My question is, did he use free will while under the Devil's control? Does any possessed person freely choose to hurt themselves and others or are they controlled by a devil? Similarly to the way God hardened the heart of the pharaoh in egypt (pharaoh could no longer repent so lost part of his free will), does God allow us give our free will over to devils if we are not born-again?
---tofurabby on 9/22/06

greetings,if mankind did not have free will then all that we do or will do is by mechanization,where no act is by a decision we make ,no not one .our Father gives us free will to choose good or evil so that when a choice is made that choice increases the size of the soul or it will contribute nothing of any value to the soul.a choice has value if good but valueless if evil.we are subjects of a destiny but not a predestiny subject.
---earl on 9/22/06

tofurabby - that's why there's the scripture that says take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Judas didn't have to yield to satan's temptation to turn Jesus in. He did have a choice to yield or not yield to the temptation. The bible says, "RESIST THE DEVIL" which means we have a choice to resist or yield, amen? ((huggs)))
---Donna9759 on 9/22/06

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Yes Judas did have a free will. He freely chose to steal the money from the poor box. He also freely chose to betray Jesus. Judas also freely chose to hang himself rather than repent.
---Helen_5378 on 9/22/06

Did he really have free will or was he under Satan's control?

Luke 22:3 "Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve."
---tofurabby on 9/22/06

Yes he had a free will, and he made the wrong choice. Because of his foreknowledge Jesus had no trouble identifying him as a devil when he chose him to be one of the original apostles. But to address the deeper question, predestination is a fact in God's mind but is very hard for us to accept.
---mima on 9/22/06

Yes he did, God is just. Why did Judas fall? The Bible says :by transgression(sin) he fell(Acts 1:25), but some claim a child of God can't fall by transgression(sin), What a big fat ugly lie! Some say Judas was never right, Wrong! He was called wasn't he? You can't "fall" from sin, but you can from righteousness, He was given free choice like every one else, but by transgression he fell, and not only fell he Blasphemed the Holy Ghost,the point of no return. --Mrs. Morgan
---Mrs._Morgan on 9/22/06

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He certainly did have a free will and Jesus said it would have been better for that man to have never been born. Was Judas a Christian?
---Donna9759 on 9/22/06

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