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Why Can We Eat Swine

The Old Testament God said not to eat swine. Why in the New Testament when Jesus was walking the earth he said that all things are clean that you may eat?

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God is not the author of confusion. Why would he Change, he doesn't. He gave examples of what you could eat for your health. Defile not the temple! In Act's 10 the Lord is talking about the Gentiles, Peter was to be sent to them, this is where they were graphed in. Jews shunned them up to that point and Peter was a Jew.
---Rodger on 8/15/10


For clearer definition, read in Hebrews where it said "All things which God has created to be eaten" not all things created were to be eaten. That which is unclean was not created to be eaten. Swine are unclean (Lev. 11).God did not create man to be unclean. So when man is restored to his original state he shall be clean and no longer transgress the laws of God which makes someone unclean. "Man shall not live by bread alone but by Every Word which proceeds from the mouth of God".
---E. on 1/31/08


The instructions from Deuteronomy regarding pork apply only to those who follow it for either dietary reasons, or personal taste, or to those who follow Judaism. Some Seventh Day Adventists also abstain from pork for health reasons.

when coke is poured over raw pork, you will see worms will surface. go google the internet and decide for yourself.
---Sheila on 12/12/07


My understanding as to why pork was considered un-clean is 3 fold.
1) The shape of the pigs feet
2) That they perfer mud
3) In the early times people did not know that they needed to fully cook pork to advoid Tricanosis. Thus people who ate under cooked pork caught the parasite and died an unpleasant death.

Jesus's main message was that of Love, not condemnation. The pharisees held the job of condemnation.
---Francis on 11/13/07


Isaiah 66:17 (King James Version)"They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD".
---Leslie on 11/13/07




We are in New Testament days. The Old Testament was basically written for the Jews. New Testament was written for the Christians. Prayer cleanses and sanctifies everything that we choose to eat. If you want to refrain from eating swine(pork) you can but don't think you are pleasing God by doing this. He would be insulted,mostly, that you are not in obedience to His Word.
---Robyn on 11/11/07


Mark, would you be very happy in heaven?

First of all:
Is 65:25
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

Plus:
Is 66:17
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
---Geoff on 11/5/07


Gina, i plan on eating big juicy steaks in heaven, that have been marinating in both awesome seasonings and the holy spirit, and its going to be a massively awesome huge steak or ribs yea ribs really really big ribs...
---mark on 11/5/07


"Romans 11:8. Its a quote from a prophecy that G-d would blind a large portion of Israel, not satan. Like I said, christian ignorance knows no bounds."

Jeff, I was going by what is taught in 2 Corinthians 4:3-4.
"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world (satan) has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
---Kay6588 on 2/9/07


Patrick - *...after Christ died, ... Peter is still obeying food commandments.*

Peter was the apostle to the circumcized (Jews), while Paul was to the uncircumcised (Gentiles). Gal. 2:7

Frankly you can eat pig if you expect to win devout Jews to the Christian faith.

Paul,otoh, had few scruples when it came to foods as his ministry was primarily to the Gentiles who were not under the Mosaic law.

And we read that Peter approved of Paul's ministry.
---lee on 2/9/07




Frank - you got that one right in that some take the simple and make it complicated, but that is their ucky religion for you - burf, burf, burf!

Romans 14:14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean.
---lee on 2/9/07


Here's something most don't consider. Peter walked with Christ and learned how to preach The Gospel Of The Kingdom. Some years later (maybe 20-30 yrs Acts and Peter's Vision) after Christ died, was buried, rose and ascended Peter is still obeying food commandments. If it was okay to eat unclean, why was Peter still obeying?
---Patrick on 2/9/07


Geoff - *Lee, how much poison should one take in moderation? The Bible is not self-contradictory*

Very true, but Christ warned his disciples to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees. He was not concerned about the fact they brought no bread but the teachings of the Pharisees (Mt. 16) who emphasized dietary laws as well as various aspects of Sabbath keepingand that often to the exclusion of human need.
---lee on 2/8/07


There are four thing that the gentiles are to stay clear of to do well. Fornication, meats offered to idols, blood and things strangled. Man has taken the simplicty of the covenent of grace in Christ and complicated it. He weighs the thoughts and intentions of the heart. What any man esteems to be unclean is unclean to him.
Frank
---Frank on 1/19/07


Kay-"Jeff, my statement was based on Scripture. If you have a problem with it then take it up with God."

Romans 11:8. Its a quote from a prophecy that G-d would blind a large portion of Israel, not satan. Like I said, christian ignorance knows no bounds.
---Jeff on 1/18/07


Jeff, my statement was based on Scripture. If you have a problem with it then take it up with God.
---Kay on 1/18/07


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Kay-"They have been blinded by Satan and refuse to accept the New Covenant, Jesus Christ."

Wow, you know what Kay, G-d said that HE blinded Israel to the Messiah for a time, so in essense you just committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, since you equated the work of G-d with the evil one, G-d forbid.

Ahhh christian ignorance knows no bounds.
---Jeff on 1/18/07


Lee, how much poison should one take in moderation? The Bible is not self-contradictory

It seems you & Kay agree the church does not replace Israel. So either you embrace a dual salvation: by Judaism & by faith in Christ, or there is is but ONE faith-Eph 4:4-6, Acts 14:1, 18:4, 19:10, 19:17, 20:21, Ro 1:16, 1 Co 1:23-24, Ro 10:12, Col 3:11, Gal 3:28, Lk 23:38-Jesus died for ALL, but each MUST accept this gift-Jn 3:16
---Geoff on 1/17/07


Geoff - there is at least one other modern version that says 'when people are drunk' John 2:10 - God's Word Version translated by God's Word to the Nations Bible Society.

I would imagine that you will find that the Greek permits that particular translation.

The verse that you quoted is only a warning toward those that would indulge too much(Proverbs 20;1), not the moderate and responsible drinking of wine that characterizes most wine drinkers.
---lee on 1/16/07


Kay - *the Church doesn't replace Israel.*

Very true as that is the position of nearly all theologians. The view that the church is also Israel really is bad theology as it involves much spiritualization of the Scripture.


---lee on 1/16/07


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Lee said Jn 2:10 NRSV puts it "the guests have become drunk..." Figure you had to really dig to find a version to support a drunken bent. I don't even have that version. Is that the only 1 that says that? Fact is Jesus' wine had no time to ferment. Can you see Jesus supporting drunkenness?

Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. Proverbs 20:1
---Geoff on 1/16/07


"Kay, let me get this straight. You think Isaiah 66 is "speaking to the nation of Israel" and you agree it is referring to a future time, right?"

Right.

"So either you think that there are two true churches-Christians and Israel,"

Geoff, the Church doesn't replace Israel.
---Kay on 1/16/07


"or you think there's a double standard Christians can break the Sabbath and eat pigs & mice, but Israel can't."

(1) Christians were never commanded to observe Israel's sabbath.
(2) Christians were never commanded to observe Israel's dietary laws.
(3) Jesus has terminated the Old Covenant, but Israel thinks they are still obligated to observe such laws. They have been blinded by Satan and refuse to accept the New Covenant, Jesus Christ.
---Kay on 1/16/07


"You still owe me an explanation of the woman in Rev 12:1-17"

Geoff, when did you ask for an explanation, sweetheart? :)
---Kay on 1/16/07


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Geoff, the "woman" in Revelation 12 is the nation of Israel.
---Kay on 1/16/07


because pork chops tastes good, bacon tastes good(lol)

Jesus showed peter that what peter considered unclean (gentiles)Jesus made clean...Glory to GOD and salvation is made known to us
---willow on 1/16/07


Kay, let me get this straight. You think Isaiah 66 is "speaking to the nation of Israel" and you agree it is referring to a future time, right? So either you think that there are two true churches-Christians and Israel, or you think there's a double standard Christians can break the Sabbath and eat pigs & mice, but Israel can't. You still owe me an explanation of the woman in Rev 12:1-17
---Geoff on 1/16/07


"We both know for a fact that Isaiah 66 refers to a future time. You call it Christ's millennial reign here on earth, the Bible tells us something else."

Geoff, its your SDA beliefs that tell something else. Right?





---Kay on 1/16/07


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"..then if that is future, then prohibition of unclean foods like mice & PIGS in verse 17 & continuity of the Sabbath in verses 22-23 is still in effect today. Agree?"

Geoff, its speaking to the nation of Israel. Read the entire chapter or maybe even the entire book of Isaiah. And Isaiah 66:17 is referring to the self righteous hypocrite. Outwardly they are pure, but inwardly they are wicked.
---Kay on 1/16/07


Yes Kay, there are some things on which we do agree. We both know for a fact that Isaiah 66 refers to a future time. You call it Christ's millennial reign here on earth, the Bible tells us something else. But if that has not happened yet, it is yet future. Are you with me? OK, then if that is future, then prohibition of unclean foods like mice & PIGS in verse 17 & continuity of the Sabbath in verses 22-23 is still in effect today. Agree?
---Geoff on 1/15/07


Be not drunk with grape juice!

Interesting that the sermon yesterday was on the miracle of Cana. The church uses the New Revised Standard Version - "everyone serves the good wine first, and then the inferior wine after the guests have become drunk. But you have keep the good wine until now." John 2:10
---lee on 1/15/07


"There are no records to believe that wine was not alcoholic in Biblical times.."-lee

True.


"Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess.."-Eph 5:18

Certainly this isn't saying "be not drunk with grape juice".




---Kay on 1/15/07


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Jerry - even grapes on the vine have some alcohol in them and when the juice is acquired, fermentation is fairly rapid. Unless you treat it by putting it into cold storage or boil it immediately, fermentation will occur soon enough.

There are no records to believe that wine was not alcoholic in Biblical times, but there is plenty of evidence that it was as writings indicate wine was diluted to make it go further.
---lee on 1/14/07


"Good point, Kay. No death in heaven = no meat. We'll all be vegetarians. According to Isaiah, even the lion will eat straw."

Jerry, why do you think Adam and Eve were told by God to eat herbs? No death, no blood shed = no meat. They had no choice but to eat herbs. The passage in Isaiah isn't describing Heaven. Its a description of the millennial reign of Christ on this earth.
---Kay on 1/14/07


Good point, Kay. No death in heaven = no meat. We'll all be vegetarians. According to Isaiah, even the lion will eat straw.

As for wine, note that no distinction is made in scripture between fresh grape juice and fermented wine.

Isa 65:8 Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it.

Clusters have fresh grape juice - I vote for that in heaven.
---jerry6593 on 1/14/07


"Kay, we can agree Isaiah 11:9, 65:25, 66:17 describes a time future to now, so that includes us."

Geoff, do we agree? Is that possible? ;)

"If we want the things God condemns then how can we live happily in eternity in rebellion?"

What? These passages aren't describing eternity. And how can the redeemed live in rebellion in eternity? I don't understand you sometimes. :) They're describing the millennial reign of Christ on THIS EARTH.
---Kay on 1/13/07


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Jerry, the "unclean" animals were ceremonially unclean. They were used to symbolize man's sinful behavior, lusts of the flesh, false teachers, false teachings, unbelievers, etc. To bring an "unclean" animal into the temple to be sacrificed would be like allowing sinful behavior (or an unclean Gentile) into the temple.
---Kay on 1/13/07


Jerry, you quoted verse 19 to show that we are to abstain from eating unclean ANIMALS, but if you read verses 9-18 Paul is referring to abstaining from unclean behavior (fornication, adultery, sodomy, etc).
---Kay on 1/13/07


"1Co 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."

Jerry, you're using a verse that actually contradicts your belief that we are to abstain from certain meats. Verse 25 says "WHATSOEVER is sold in the shambles, THAT EAT, asking no question for conscience sake."
---Kay on 1/13/07


"Do you think that God now allows abominations to defile His holy temple?"

Jerry, food doesn't defile the temple. Food passes through the stomach and then it goes out into the toilet. It never enters the soul of man.
---Kay on 1/13/07


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"Do you think the He changed His mind?"

Jerry, He hasn't changed His mind, just fulfilled His purposes. God wanted Israel to eat "clean" animals and to abstain from "unclean" animals for religious ceremonial purposes that were fulfilled in Christ. The dietary laws weren't for health purposes.
---Kay on 1/13/07


"..will not be walking in with a glass of wine in their hands & pork in their mouths!"

Gina, since there won't be death or blood shed in Heaven how could there be mouths filled with pork? I'm not so sure about the wine drinking though.
---Kay on 1/13/07


"During those times, people did not know that swine needed a certain amount of cooking time, or that meat with blood wasn't cooked long enough to kill the bacteria, ect. During those times, these foods WERE unclean to eat."

Pat, what about lamb? It also needs a certain amount of cooking time. Lamb is listed among the "clean" animals. I'm convinced that the "unclean" and "clean" animals were strickly for ritual/ceremonial purposes.
---Kay on 1/13/07


Thank you Gina, I believe that with the use of Scripture to validate ones contention, it is possible for the Holy Spirit to use that Scripture.

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness & peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

We read that wine will be plentiful in the kingdom of heaven.

Mt. 26:29, Mk. 16:25, Luke 22:18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.
---lee on 1/13/07


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Lee says"And to the glory of God,we can all eat our pork roast properly prepared and even with a glass of wine!"//I hope the alcohol in the wine helps kill off all of the remaining worms that cooking did not completely kill.LOL. Contaminating the body, with unclean pork& with alcohol..you look no different than the wordly person. I guarantee you,the CC keepers, who are given rights to the tree of life & holy city,will not be walking in with a glass of wine in their hands & pork in their mouths!
---Gina on 1/13/07


I believe that God told his people not to eat unclean things, such as swine, bloody meat, ect. During those times, people did not know that swine needed a certain amount of cooking time, or that meat with blood wasn't cooked long enough to kill the bacteria, ect. During those times, these foods WERE unclean to eat.
---Pat on 1/10/07


Kay, we can agree Isaiah 11:9, 65:25, 66:17 describes a time future to now, so that includes us. If we want the things God condemns then how can we live happily in eternity in rebellion?

Please explain Isaiah 66:17
They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
---Geoff on 1/10/07


1Co 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

Romans 14:2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.

And to the glory of God, we can all eat our pork roast properly prepared and even with a glass of wine!
---lee on 1/10/07


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Kay: Have you noticed that only clean animals were allowed as offerings in the temple sacrifices, and that unclean animals were an abomination for that purpose?

1Co 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost.

1Co 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

Do you think that God now allows abominations to defile His holy temple? Do you think the He changed His mind?
---jerry6593 on 1/10/07


"Kay, I agree, salvation is in Jesus Christ."

Gina, I'm really happy to see that we have actually agreed on something.

"But I ask why not if God has said not to eat it?"

God didn't give *us* dietary laws to follow. Those laws were for Israel only. And the animals described as "unclean" were ceremonially unclean, not literally unclean.
---Kay on 1/9/07


"It runs under the same principle of God saying to Adam & Eve, do not eat of the Tree of Knowledge."

It was a test of their obedience.
---Kay on 1/9/07


"We today are being bequiled by the devil into believing that foods God said not eat, are okay to eat, such as Pork."

Gina, if eating pork is literally unclean then so is eating lamb. Both contain bacterias that can cause serious illnesses if not properly cooked. If pork is literally unclean then so is lamb. And we all know that lamb is listed with the "clean" animals. Obviously the "unclean" and "clean" were ceremonial, not literal.
---Kay on 1/9/07


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Gina::God gave authority over everything to A&E Gen;1;29-30 except the tree of Knowledge Gen;2;16-17.He also said "Its not what goes into the mouth that defiles But what comes out."Dust thou art & into dust thou shalt return"the earth is made of worms.Death & decay are synonymous with each other.Failure to cook meat properly can lead to disease. That is not Gods fault.
---EMCEE on 1/9/07


Romans 14:2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not him that eats despise him that eats not; and let not him which eats not judge him that eats: for God has received him.

Nowhere in the New Testament is there any condemnation for those who eat what they want or any admonishment to restrict what food they may eat.

Gina only has the Old Testament dietary laws given to the Jewish nation alone for her views.
---lee on 1/9/07


God created all things, each one for overlapping or different purposes. God knows there are certain things in swine not good for human consumption. How long did it take science to know that tape-worm can be transferred to humans thro' its oil? God said do not eat fat; how long did it take for human science to agree? Do you know how long it will take for humans to dicover other bad things in all God told us not to eat? SIMPLE, COMPLETE obedience to God's word helps a lot.
---adetunji on 1/9/07


Kay, I agree, salvation is in Jesus Christ. Your statement "Gina, eating certain foods doesn't make *us* sinners" But I ask why not if God has said not to eat it? It runs under the same principle of God saying to Adam & Eve, do not eat of the Tree of Knowledge. We today are being bequiled by the devil into believing that foods God said not eat, are okay to eat, such as Pork. I know you do not eat it, but others do.
---Gina on 1/9/07


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Pat"John3:16 must be a mistranslation.There is no God junior and God senior."I disagree.One of the greatest truths in Bible is that the Father gave up His only begotten Son for us.Jesus is God,He was not created, but Jesus himself said the Father was greater than him(John14:28)&has given Him all power in heaven&earth.Nobody gave the Father all power:He always had it.There is a difference.Also only the Father knows the day/hour of Jesus coming,Jesus does not(Mat24:36)Not mistranslations; truth!
---Gina on 1/9/07


John 3:16 must be a mistranslation. There is no God junior and God senior. This is called Polytheism. Luke 3:38 Adam, not Jesus, was the son of God. Deut.4:35, 6:4, 32:39, Job38:7, Isa.7:14 with Matt.1:23. (Immanuel=God with us)Isa.41:4 & 6, Isa.45:5,48:12, Matt.4:7, 15:31,Mark 12:29, John 1:1, 1:2, 1:14, 10:30, 12:45, 14:9 & 10, Rom.1:3, I Cor. 2:7,& 8,8:4 & 6, Eph.4:4,5,6, I Tim.3:16, I John 4:2,3, 5:7,8. Rev.22:13. Thanks
---Pat on 1/9/07


John 3:16 must be a mistranslation. There is no God junior and God senior. This is called Polytheism. Luke 3:38 Adam, not Jesus, was the son of God. Deut.4:35, 6:4, 32:39, Job38:7, Isa.7:14 with Matt.1:23. (Immanuel=God with us)Isa.41:4 & 6, Isa.45:5,48:12, Matt.4:7, 15:31,Mark 12:29, John 1:1, 1:2, 1:14, 10:30, 12:45, 14:9 & 10, Rom.1:3, I Cor. 2:7,& 8,8:4 & 6, Eph.4:4,5,6, I Tim.3:16, I John 4:2,3, 5:7,8. Rev.22:13. Thanks
---Pat on 1/9/07


Gina, we aren't tested on appetite. We are tested on whether or not we accept Christ as Savior. No one goes to Hell for eating meat. The command that God has given to us is "thou must be born-again". If we fail to obey this commandment, we will be cast out of His presense for eternity. Our salvation isn't determined by the foods that we eat. The things of God aren't food and drink. God's plan of salvation doesn't include obedience to the diets of Adam or Moses.
---Kay on 1/9/07


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Gina, the Bible does NOT say, for example, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, become vegetarian, and thou shalt be saved." We aren't to add our own ideas to God's plan of salvation.
---Kay on 1/9/07


"When they did EAT instead, guess what? They were sinners"

Gina, eating certain foods doesn't make *us* sinners because we are born sinners. Adam became a sinner due to his disobedience of not trusting God's word but trusting Satans instead. The fruit itself was good, not poisoned, contaminated, evil, or "unclean". Everything that God had created was good. "..and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was GOOD (Gen 1:12).
---Kay on 1/9/07


"God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was VERY GOOD"(Gen 1:31). What if God had never told them not to eat of that particular tree? Would eating its fruit still be a sin? No.
---Kay on 1/9/07


"Food there is going to be much better. Why trade that for inferior food here?"

Geoff, why do you keep accusing me of picking food over eternal life? I already have eternal life and it isn't based on food and drink, at least thats what GOD said. Those scripture passages weren't describing Heaven.
---Kay on 1/8/07


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The tree that Adam & Eve ate was the tree of knowledge of good & evil - something that the law reveals. While the tree of life was the Christ in which those who "eat" will live forever (Gen. 3:23; John 6:53).
---lee on 1/8/07


Kay "our eternal life with Christ in Heaven is not based on what we eat or not eat"//God tested the first man & woman on apetite.. by placing a tree in the midst of the garden, and saying, DO NOT EAT. When they did EAT instead, guess what? They were sinners, thrown out of the garden, and punished. The eating of the forbidden food represented sin, not believing God at his word.
---Gina on 1/8/07


Lee said "I am sure that Romans 14:2-3 refers to eatable foods; not poisons." I'm sure too. So if we shouldn't eat pigs, they are NOT edible food. The Bible, nutritionists & common sense back that up.

Kay said "there won't be killing in Heaven so I'm not going to be able to kill and eat one of those heavenly hams." That's right-Is 11:9, 65:25, 66:17

Food there is going to be much better. Why trade that for inferior food here?

Please read 1 Cor 2:9
---Geoff on 1/8/07


Geoff - *Some things you shouldn't eat: cyanide, mice & pigs...*

I am sure that Romans 14:2-3 refers to eatable foods; not poisons.

In the beginning all meats were permitted for food (Gen. 1:30) but upon the establishment of the nation of Israel, dietary laws were designed primarily to distinguish His people from others; not necessarily for health purposes.
---lee on 1/7/07


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Goeff *...you understand there'll be NO meat eating in heaven?*

Perhaps the nature of the bodies Christians will have would not require meat. The Bible does not reveal the nature of the bodies we will have in the heavenly realm but we can surmise that we will be able to drink wine.Mt. 26:29 (so you may want to get used to it now???)
---lee on 1/7/07


Geoff, please show me where I said that there would be meat eating in Heaven. I thought sure I said just the opposite.

"What're you going to do, stop just outside the pearly gates, kill & eat 1 more pig before having to spend eternity without?"

First of all, there won't be killing in Heaven so I'm not going to be able to kill and eat one of those heavenly hams before passing through the gates of the city. Besides, I don't care for pork. I eat chicken, fish, and beef.
---Kay on 1/7/07


"Or are you going to miss out for appetite?"

Geoff, our eternal life with Christ in Heaven is not based on what we eat or not eat. I received Christ at the age of 20. I've been a Christian for 12 years. No born-again believer will be cast out of Heaven, especially over what they ate while living on Earth. God is not going to say "depart from me, you had a steak dinner with a glass of milk!"
---Kay on 1/7/07


"Phil 3:18-19"-Geoff

What a way to falsely judge someone! Since I eat meat, you're calling me an enemy of the cross, my end is destruction, my God is my belly, and I'm consumed with earthly things. You say this because I'm not a vegetarian? What ever happen to the command to not judge anyone by what they eat or drink?That commandment just flew out the window.Are all SDAs self-righteous?Do they all preach keeping the Law of Moses perfectly, but constantly break the Law of Christ?
---Kay on 1/7/07


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Lee said "we see in Ro 14:2-3 one may eat all things." If you're going to be ultra-literal join "snake handlers." Some things you shouldn't eat: cyanide, mice & pigs-Is 66:17. Gen 8:3=everything of what may be eaten. Use your brain-Is 1:18

Kay, you understand there'll be NO meat eating in heaven? What're you going to do, stop just outside the pearly gates, kill & eat 1 more pig before having to spend eternity without? Or are you going to miss out for appetite? Phil 3:18-19
---Geoff on 1/7/07


"Gina, i plan on eating big juicy steaks in heaven, that have been marinating in both awesome seasonings and the holy spirit, and its going to be a massively awesome huge steak or ribs yea ribs really really big ribs..." -mark

Okay. Now I'm hungry!
---Kay on 1/7/07


"No, but you do, because in other blogs you have stated that Christians no longer have to obey 10CC because you believe it is old covenant& obsolete."

Gina, the Word of the living God says the 10 commandments are the old law and are "done away". 2 Cor 3

"The truth is violating the 10CC makes one a sinner,& sinners are lost."

Man was a sinner before God gave the 10 to Moses. And we aren't saved by keeping the law.
---Kay on 1/7/07


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