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Has Anybody Seen God

The Council of Nicea in 325 A.D. decreed that Joseph a/k/a Jesus is true God from true God. While he was alive and in the flesh, Jesus said God is Spirit(John 4:24) and NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME (John 1:18). Since millions of people saw Joseph-Jesus, how can Jesus be true God from true God?

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Jack, Jack, Jack, since the native language of Jesus was ARAMAIC (smile), which is a Semitic branch in the AFRO-ASIATIC group of languages, and in ARAMAIC his name was Jeshua ben JOSEPH (son of Joseph), his name was indeed JOSEPH. Further, you ASSUMED that Jesus stayed in Galilee and Judea his whole life. Perhaps you can solve the mystery in the Bible surrounding HIS MISSING YEARS. I have researched this! Have you? I hope you know he traveled outside the region! Nice try! Come again!
---I_AM_I on 3/25/08

1/ Christina, thanks for your post. When I first told Helen we will discuss the treatment of women in Scriptures, I mentioned that Jesus treated them equally. That is very consistent with the Jesus I have come to know from Jesus ALLEGEDLY being a member of one of those sects in Palestine. In the sect, members lived in a communal setting and the women were treated equally. The name of the sect is irrelevant. How the sect treated women is the issue. The sect had different names in different countries.
---I_AM_I on 10/18/06

2/ Christina, I am not looking to right all the wrongs in the world either. However, God wants us to worship in spirit and in TRUTH. John 4:24. If every single verse in the Bible is truthful, then those verses degrading women and treating them horribly must be true also and should be accepted by you and EVERYONE. Is that worshipping in truth?
---I_AM_I on 10/18/06

3/ Christina, like you, the God I know values women and men equally and has no favoritism between male and female. Therefore, where did the writers of the books of the Bible get their ideas to treat women terribly? If these ideas are not from God, then where did they come from? I have already stated on this site where they came from. Can you tell me where they came from?
---I_AM_I on 10/18/06

Helen, I am not trying to get you to question God's word. I am trying to get you to VIGOROUSLY question man's word! There is a difference. Remember, I am the person who does not question God. I will question everyone else except God. You have to know God's message from man's message. Helen, I know you accept EVERY single verse in the Bible as true. Therefore, please read my last post to Christina and answer the question of where the verses in the Bible that treat women terribly come from.
---I_AM_I on 10/18/06

According to the Bible,Jesus is the incarnate of the invisible God.Yes,the Bible says that God is a Spirit.Jesus is that Spirit made flesh.True,no one had seen God UNTIL He was manifested in the flesh.John 1:18 says "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has delared Him." In other words,thanks to Jesus,the Father has been seen.Jesus said in regards to the Father "..from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."-John 14:7
---Kay on 10/17/06

I AM I - Please do not bother trying to get me to question God's Word because you never will. God's Word is total truth right from "In the beginning" through to "Amen".
---Helen_5378 on 10/17/06

1/ Emcee, as I have previously informed you, this is not a popularity contest to me. I do not need any followers. God is my witness. Who else do I need? With respect to Helen and Christina, both of them know Scriptures. I promised Helen that I will discuss some topics in the Bible that will leave her questioning whether God, Jesus, Paul, the corrupted scribes, those political church councils or very biased Bible translators said certain things. One of the topics is the treatment of women in the Bible.
---I_AM_I on 10/17/06

2/ Emcee, since Helen knows how to cite Scriptures with the best of them, I certainly wanted to have her point of view on the subject. Likewise, I wanted Christina's point of view and she provided it. I happen to agree with Christina on the issue and not with some of the men who were on the blog. Guess what? I was not surprised by the responses from the men. If you know the history of the Judeo-Christian-Islam religions, the three major western religions, you too would not be surprised.
---I_AM_I on 10/17/06

3/ Emcee, I have answered your questions, including 4 times on one question. Have you answered any of my questions? We started talking about the devil or Satan and you quit on me. Why? I will answer the question of who is Yeshua ben Yosef shortly on the trinity blog. That will answer your question about Jesus being the creator, etc. In fact, I just finished posting the question on this blog there. Go challenge any erroneous biblical answers I give on that blog.
---I_AM_I on 10/17/06

I AM I, You say women are treated terribly in the bible...In some instances they were Jesus Himself for example. Some of the ways women have been treated historically has to do with culture or ignorance. I know God values woman just as He values men...He shows no favoritism. Thats enough for me... I cannot right all the wrongs in the world, but can point to Jesus...the way the truth and the life, the one who sets us free.
As for boasting in weakness, no, have not met many either
---Christina on 10/16/06

iami or Uru::You have still not answered my question.U R here to gather a following to get a voice.So far that does not seem evident your entreaty to call Christina & Helen to your fold seems like you need some disciples.Declare who you are & answer the question truthfully.
---Emcee on 10/16/06

2/ Christina, I like your response on the male-female issue in the Bible. Women are treated terribly in the Bible. Sadly, there are some men on this site who are justifying such treatment. I hope you join us under the Feminist blog soon. Please bring Helen. I am still smiling! I dont know about you, but I intend to answer some of those timeless questions: Who am I? Why am I here? Where am I from, if any where? Where am I going, if any where? Notice the word "I" in all these questions.
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06

1/ Christina, the message you mentioned (in the trinity blog) that you posted here is still not on the blog. Also, I am unable to locate the original message I sent to you. Nonetheless, I was touched by those verses from Paul. They are so true. Including me, we have to overcome the ego in order to fully bask in Gods glory, as I have previously stated on this site. I have not met many people who boast about their weaknesses. Have you?
---I_AM_I on 10/15/06

"And I appeared unto Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Almighty God, but by my name Jehovah, they never knew me."

TRUE and UNIMPEACHABLE WORD of God, even Jehovah, the spirit only God of the Old Testament. Later born as Jesus Christ, Jehovah was indeed seen by many men and women. The interpretation that God is SPIRIT ONLY is false doctrine. JESUS CHRIST is GOD. He lives, having been resurrected after his death on the cross. To claim Him spirit only, is to deny the literal resurrection.
---Robert on 10/10/06

I AM I, concerning feminist blog...I do not believe what man says about women, in particular that they are weak and cause of fall of man. That is blame shifting, for one thing. We are all weak and in need of God. He is my strength. We are equally in need of Jesus, His salvation. As Paul says, If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness.2 cor 11:30 cont...
---Christina on 10/10/06

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Hello I AM I...sorry, have not read what you suggested, and have been silent on blogs because I have so little time to spend here. Can only read/ reply to a small fraction of posts, obviously some are more in depth then others so would require more time. It seems many here have so much time to spend blogging, but I have other prioritites now. That's all. Smile
---Christina on 10/10/06

I am I...almost forgot, you asked why I didn't rebuke comment had to do with you saying that On was the person to deliver you when it is God alone who delivers. I will add that we all are or have been in need of deliverance, so I am not singling you out.
---Christina on 10/10/06

cont...2 Corinthians 12:5
I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weakn 2 Corinthians 12:9
But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.
---Christina on 10/10/06

I AM I As for the article about the RCC claiming lies in the bible, I do not follow the RCC, but rather Jesus, so I don't listen to much of what they say. Still would like to read it at some time.
---Christina on 10/10/06

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IAMI::You're adroit at avoiding the questions.Do you love God Jesus christ & are ready to serve HIM& acknowledge Him as YOUR creator.-You can keep your 2 books, I have no need for your Knowledge.-The Bible & GODS word is my Forte. IS IT YOURS?You say I reject knowledge But cannot simply answer: DO YOU LOVE GOD& MARY HIS MOTHER?- Sorry you spent your teenage years in frivilously,you can repent,go on your knees & ask forgivenes.If you deny HIS word, how can you claim being closer may be by desire.PROVE IT.
---Emcee on 10/9/06

Christina: Thanks for putting those definitions down. That was very helpful and so true.
He has delivered us out of darkness into the Kingdom of His dear Son.
That's what comes to mind for me.
---kathr4453 on 10/9/06

Here is what ON wrote to me on 10/5/06:
"You need a deliverance, seriously." --ON
Why didn't you rebuke ON for writing this? Nevertheless, did you find the article by REDHILL that says the Catholic Church admits there are LIES in the Bible? Christina, why are you so silent under the Feminist Movement section? Do you believe some of the men who claim women are weak and they are the so-called fall of mankind?
---I_AM_I on 10/9/06

cont...5. to give forth or emit
6. to strike or throw: to deliver a blow.
7. to set free or liberate
8. to release or save
10. to assist at the birth of
11. to give birth to
12. to disburden
13. to make known; assert. 14. to give birth.
16. to do or carry out as promised
---Christina on 10/9/06

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I AM I, you wrote "On, you are just the person to deliver me." God alone delivers us. Interesting word, deliver: 1. to carry and turn over to the intended recipient or recipients:
2. to give into another's possession or keeping; surrender:
4. to give forth in words; utter or pronounce
---Christina on 10/9/06

one more thing: Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8-9

9 He said, "Go and tell this people:
" 'Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.'
---Christina on 10/9/06

I AM I, just wondering what 2 books you read, and what questions you have that are not answered in the bible
---Christina on 10/9/06

2/ Emcee, you need to research the history of the Bible. Be prepared to be surprised in your research. I guarantee you that what you think you know now about your Bible will change! I knew from early on that some of the questions I needed answers to are not in the Bible! I read two books on Jesus my teenage years and they have brought me closer to THE Christ than the Bible ever can! They helped to explain some of the deeper meanings in Scripture.
---I_AM_I on 10/8/06

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1/ Emcee, I am going to take the high road yet again! One of these days I am going to run out of cheeks to keep turning. Didn't Paul tell you that knowledge will come and go? How can I gloat on something that comes and goes? Knowledge is meant to be shared, and I am willing to share it with anyone. Your problem is you reject knowledge that contradicts your biblical teachings.
---I_AM_I on 10/8/06

3/ Emcee, I have never been satisfied with a superficial interpretation of Scripture. I will investigate all sources inside and outside of the Bible. Knowledge is boundless. The Bible, however, places boundaries on knowledge. Do you want to think outside of the box? When you answer my questions, I will gladly answer your new questions!
---I_AM_I on 10/8/06

IAMI::Are you a proud man who gloats over his knowledge?this is how you come across to me & BTW he is not MY devil he owns only those who do his bidding- do you?Please answer these questions & also the one Do you believe in God & love Him?
---Emcee on 10/7/06

IAMI::You did not answer my Question."DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD"?Regarding your question of the devil.Your answer lies with GOD,if you believe HIM,if not. ask the one who made IAMI.Regarding your theory Heresy it is possible on the same basis, you may be walking on your hands & feeding yourself with your feet,or yet sitting on your brains,who Knows?You are asking us to redefine God & man.This you will have to ask THE CREATOR,YOURS.
---Emcee on 10/7/06

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1/ Emcee, I am not sure what you mean by my tone has been more submissive. You were the second person to get testy with me. I turned the other cheek in my previous response to you and now you want to help me. Thank you. Now, regarding YOUR devil who was once in heaven (please define this) before God threw HIM out, did God create YOUR devil? If yes, why doesnt God just get rid of HIM? Isn't he a pain in the ass to the Christian community?
---I_AM_I on 10/6/06

2/ Emcee, regarding your definitions of heresy and heretic, who is it that determines if a theory, doctrine, concept or idea is FALSE? Who gives this person that authority? What makes that person's interpretation of God better than yours? Emcee, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU that God is experienced in the HEART. The heart has reasons the mind and brain cannot comprehend! The trinity may be a mystery to you and others, but I completely understand it. I apply it in my life everyday! God bless.
---I_AM_I on 10/6/06

IAMI::Devil is an evil spirit. Name applied to Satan as the prince of darkness or of Hell.He once held an esteemed position in Heaven But rebelled against God & was Cast out with all his fallen angels.Heresy is a docrtine of a Heritic,one who professes a false doctrine:one who seeks the end of Christian truth, but fails in the means becauses he refuses belief in one or more of the articles of Faith;so,one who starts a sect based upon False doctrines
---Emcee on 10/6/06

AAMI::With your tone being more submissive it is easier to talk to one who is amenable to reason.Yes I shall try to help you First do you believe in God?not by Mouth But from the heart then you have to know HIM just as you know your own wife. Are you ready to serve him?These are the fundamentals.The quotes in the bible are your actions as you go step by step.Regarding The trinityIt is a mystery of our Faith noy yet explained by God & although many have tried does not do justice to the explaination.
---Emcee on 10/6/06

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greetings,after reading several exchanges on this post not concerning this topic above but of satan who almost everybody fears as if he has a grip on ones soul and never lets go regardless of how much faith one has.satan is a single being.he is unparallel in nearsightedness for if he possessed the will of the Father he could see that his act of sin was a failure from the beginning.lucifer,satan and the prince of this world are three different beings un-omni-potent,scient,ficence,present,personal
---earl on 10/6/06

I Am I. If you do not know who Satan is from the scriptures that I assume you have read, I can not began to define him for you. The only knowledge I have of him is what I have read. However I would like hear your definition of him apart from the bible, since you seem to think he can be defined otherwise. Thanks, have a good day.
---joseph on 10/6/06

On, you are just the person to deliver me.
---I_AM_I on 10/5/06

I love this verse: John 3:12, I think it is. "You believe not when I tell you of earthly things, how then shall ye believe when I tell you of heavenly things?" I dont know why, but I just wanted to post it here.
---sue on 10/5/06

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I AM I You need a deliverance, seriously.
----on on 10/5/06

You need a deliverance, seriously.
----on on 10/5/06

Nic, I further responded to you under that other section on this site. God bless.
---I_AM_I on 10/5/06

NIC, YOU ARE CORRECT about one of my motives. I am not looking for one smart answer. I have done some research on the trinity and I already know what the answer is. Also, I know things in the UNIVERSE (GOD) manifest in triune (3s). The trinity of Father, Son and the Holy Ghost tried to end all other trinities and it failed! Nic, YOU ARE CORRECT that I want EVERYONE, whether, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Toaist or Buddhist, to question their beliefs or faith. I question what I think I know all the time.
---I_AM_I on 10/5/06

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Joseph, PLEASE define SATAN, and be very detailed. Do not merely cite verses from the Bible! I have some questions on satan for you after I get your DETAILED definition!
---I_AM_I on 10/5/06

Emcee, I responded to you yesterday here but it did not take. My response is under the section entitled, WHO RESSURECTED CHRIST. Please define DEVIL and HERESY. Be very specific. Do not JUST cite verses from the Bible upon defining DEVIL! Do you intend to answer any of my prior questions? As a Christian, this is how you treat a fellow child of God? Why don't you correct me if I am misguided? NOTE that I took the high road on this one! God bless.
---I_AM_I on 10/5/06

I would like to clarify this statement "You will see no other physical being making that claim." It should read "You will see no other physical being legitimately making that claim." Satan will make the claim, however as we all know he is a liar & the truth is not in him. He will simply be looking to deceive those who are gullible enough to listen to his blasphemous claim.
---joseph on 10/3/06

IamI::You have heard the voice of the Christian which I add we are not devil worshippers,or people with inflated egos propounding HERESY.Please take it elsewhere to those of your ilk.
---Emce on 10/3/06

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You may not know them so well yet.
If you get your answer correctly will you then believe in God? That's not what you are planning to do, i guess.
We who 'believe' may not have the perfect answer, simply because we 'believe' even without any proof. And bless those who believe without even seeing.
PS: You may want to question your motive for asking..
---nic on 10/3/06

I AM I.. looks like the meaning of your question is initially trying to challenge others who believe in Jesus into giving you one smart answer or, simply so that they will question their belief (MAYBE?). If you only want to 'know' God, why bother this much? Just go try to find out other things around you on earth. Like your parents.. (continued...)
---nic on 10/3/06

I AM I - There is not even one single thing that you have said in your last Blogs that comes anywhere near the truth. Scripture clearly teaches that Jesus is God, that Jesus is the Son of God. You are teaching heresy and for such if you do not repent you will go to hell for it. If you don't believe me then read Galatians 5:18-21 and 1 Corinthians 6:9,10.
---Helen_5378 on 10/3/06

I AM I - How dare you so bold-faced say on this Blog that Jesus is not God. I can't believe that you would dare to say that here for the whole world to see. Jesus is God and has always been God and always will be God. Jesus is the only way to heaven. Jesus is the Son of God Who came to earth to die on the Cross for your sins. Repent now before it is too late.
---Helen_5378 on 10/3/06

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I AM I ... Can you please stop SHOUTING ALL THE TIME?
---Alan8869_of_UK on 10/3/06

I think I know where the Spinach Demons went.
---Elder on 10/3/06

I Am I, Then you are calling God a liar, because O.T. and N.T. Scripture both proclaim Jesus Christ as God Almighty in the flesh. And as far as being called gods, that basically refers to all of God's children, therefore one must be born-again in order to become one of his own, and also to produce any fruits which are supernatural in Christ. For indeed there is only one Everlasting God, only one Lord Jesus, and not many.
---Eloy on 10/2/06

3/ Emcee, I am not SUGGESTING (your word) that Jesus IS NOT GOD. I am EMPHATICALLY telling you that JESUS IS NOT GOD, the ONE GREAT UNIVERSAL LIFE FORCE THAT IS IN ALL THINGS, micro and macro, above and below, RA and MA. Now, of all the GREAT AVATARS, ADEPTHS AND SPIRITUAL TEACHERS that God has sent in this three dimensional earth, BROTHER JESUS was the greatest. You should study the trinity that is Emcee: body, mind and soul, or the one you know: body, soul and spirit.
---I_AM_I on 10/2/06

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2/ Emcee, the BLESSED TRINITY you are talking about is problematic. It is a man-made creation and it is contrary to what Jesus taught. Jesus told us (me, you, and everyone on this site and in the world) that we are gods. Your BLESSED and invented TRINITY says we are not. Your trinity tells me that I can ONLY get to God through the intermediary Jesus. I talk to God frequently but not through Jesus. I chose to make my telephone calls to God directly rather than collect or indirect. Again, how about you?
---I_AM_I on 10/2/06

1/ Emcee, my answer was in my SIMPLE question to you. In the event you did not get my answer from the question, I stated my answer BLUNTLY. I asked you if you want TO KNOW GOD or BELIEVE IN GOD. In the very next sentence, I told you that I prefer TO KNOW GOD! Therefore, I do not need TO BELIEVE in God or YOUR trinity. I KNOW that I am a body, mind and soul in this earthly realm. Since I did not MAKE, CREAT OR EVOLVE myself into being, I KNOW my Creator, Maker or Evolver MUST BE THE SAME AS I AM!
---I_AM_I on 10/2/06

IAMI:That, you may be & no one else.Truth is not a popularity contest.However you evaded MY Question, very adroitly.
1.Do you believe in the Blessed TRINITY?
3 Ref. the 325AD 1st council of Nice
Jesus was SON of God.& also Joseph in a manner of speaking by custom of the times.BUT He is INCARNATE.YOU are suggesting that Jesus is Not GOD same as in the Heresy OF 325AD.
---Emcee on 10/2/06

I Am I, I have just had another thought. You will notice that when Jesus spoke of seeing the Father He did not mention creation, as the universe, stars, moon, sun, the earth, trees, man, or some other being. What he said in reference to the Father is & I quote. "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?" He mentioned that the Father was greater than Himself simply because the Father in the totality of His essence is not limited or confined to time.. [Cont.]
---joseph on 10/2/06

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[Cont.] .. or space. Jesus openly proclaimed that "I and [my] Father are one" The word [one] as He uses it here is used numerically as one in the same. The only God per se. As concerning your quote "NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME WHILE IN THE FLESH!" Here's mine "Not that any man has seen the Father, save (except) he which is of God, he hath seen the Father" John 6:46. He was not referring to Himself as that man given the context but rather to those around Him.
---joseph on 10/2/06

I AM I, yes, I have answered. When Jesus said that no man has seen God, he is speaking of unholy man, for some people, as myself have personally been visited by and have been spoken to and have been touched by God. To receive the whole truth, we should read all of the Scripture and not only part. Please read Genesis 32:30,31; Exodus 33:11,13,18-23; Deuteronomy 34:10; Matthew 5:8; 11:27; John 14:21,23; I John 3:6. BTW God's Spirit is the Holy Spirit, just as Scripture is Holy Scripture.
---Eloy on 10/2/06

I Am I please allow me to clarify the statement. What I meant is physically perceived bodily as the foundation, source, sustainer & controller of all existence. When we behold Jesus we will see the expressed physical manifestation of the Father. You will see no other physical being making that claim. I look forward to your response sir. Have a good day
---joseph on 10/2/06

greetings,p7,there are actual or cosmic levels and there are personal or spiritual levels of varying degrees of spirit recognition to all of the human races.this statement is concise and space for man in this era of spiritual recognition and understanding of God,he is best known by his mortal sons and daughters as Father and his son our brother jesus one time mortal revealed his and our Father to us
---earl on 10/1/06

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greetings,p6,"no one has seen the Father"and he stated no one "has heard his voice at any time"and the sons of thunder was told "it is not mine to give".only the trinity is omnipotent and add the holy spirit became active after pentecost then that would eliminate it from being omnipresent which is a trinity characteristic,exclusively.if it were not for arius,the trinity concept would not yet begin to be a developing reality.cont
---earl on 10/1/06

greetings,p5,then he is of trinity origin status or a trinity origin being.God consists of the trinity as man understands him and jesus stated his throne is not the trinity's but exists next to it.spiritually jesus and God ,his Father are one and the same in all that is revealed to us as jesus stated "my Father and i are one",if you see me then you have seen the Father",but in contrast to these words jesus says,my father is greater than i",only my Father knows.cont
---earl on 10/1/06

greetings,p4,to make a visible physical body .in relation of joshua to the trinity,the mind of jesus was not purely human but both mortal and spiritual and having the ability to intake both physical and spiritual food,"you know not of",and after resurection the ability to appear and disappear.the making two as one,jesus and his Father was truly unexpected to the men in his actuals jesus stated he is the son of god,not God.if jesus were to say he is God in actual terminology..cont
---earl on 10/1/06

greetings,p3,a triunity is a positive compliment to the trinity.therefore,only 1 God exists in paradise 1 deity and 1 undivided infinite Father.the Father function plural yet maintaining singleness of deity yet having 3 distinct clearly visible absolutes.when revelation came to us through joshua,the 2nd.person of deity illuminated such to man via jesus,revealing the 1st. person of deity via"a more enduring substance"the creative act of the 3rd.person of deity's downward attenuations..cont
---earl on 10/1/06

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greetings,p2,God is omnificence,stating that God does not do all that is done.the 2nd.person of deity and the 3rd.person are equally involved in doing that which is done or is in progress simultaneously with the thought.a triunity is an expression of the matter when the Father suggests,the Son speaks and the Spirit creates ,again a simultaneous act,triunified and the 3 are equally deified in the act.if 3 persons are suggested as soverign then the trinity is non existant nor non monoethistic..cont
---earl on 10/1/06

greetings,p1,the problem of understanding the nature of God arises from how are the 3 that bear witness are 1 in the same ?it is understood there are 3 that bear witness,equally the 3 are God is soverign and there is no other.God remains non monoethistic for monoethism insists there is only 1 God(deity)without the intervention of another source equal to the stature of the trinity ,it is understood that God is soverign,inclusive of 3 absolutes,the Father ,Son,and Spirit..cont
---earl on 10/1/06

2/ Emcee, I could care less whether you agree with me. This is not a popularity contest to me. Among other things, GOD IS PURE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND JUST IS! Whether you want to AFFIRM God now, ten years from now or never will not diminish that UNCONDITIONAL LOVE on bit! Thank God!
---I_AMI on 10/1/06

Emcee, I will respond in the same tone as the post directed to me. I posted some new responses that are in the system but not yet posted. Please read them and try again in your response. Further, do you want TO KNOW God or BELIEVE IN God? Go figure out the difference! As for me, I prefer TO KNOW GOD! Finally, even if I explain the meaning of the name I AM I you would not understand it! Part of it is in the Bible!
---I_AM_I on 10/1/06

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Joseph, thanks for your response. I briefly answered the question in my second response to Jack. Am I misinformed? I agree with you that God is in all things. In other words, God is UNIVERSAL. I agree that Jesus is a REFLECTION of the Father. The Bible tells us that and countless other sources tell us that. I DISAGREE with you that the Father can ONLY be perceived PHYSICALLY through Jesus, however! You contradict yourself here, since you have already told me that God is in all things.
---I_AM_I on 10/1/06

Brother Eloy, I am enjoying my discussion with you under that other section. I will get into this question under that section with you. I already agreed with you that God is UNIVERSAL. You are misreading the question here, however. Please see my second response to Jack and tell me if you really answered the question.
---I_AM_I on 10/1/06

Jack, Jack, Jack, you are NOT reading and interpreting your Bible carefully. In the verse Jesus said GOD IS SPIRIT. In some Bibles the verse reads, God is A Spirit. Note that Jesus DID NOT SAY God is the HOLY Spirit! The word holy is not in the verse. Again, Jesus said God is Spirit! When Jesus said God is Spirit he was in the flesh! He also said NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME WHILE IN THE FLESH! Now, tell me how Jesus could possibly be God, since no man includes him in the flesh? Come again!
---I_AM_I on 10/1/06

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