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Santa Got Them Toys Lie

At Christmas is it a sin to tell the children that Santa got them the toys?

Moderator - Yes, lying is a sin.

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Of course it is a sin to lie to your children, and why would you? When my children were little, I told them the presents were from their parents because we loved them as God loves them. We let them play with Santa Claus, like you would let kids play with Mickey Mouse or Big Bird characters at amusement parks. But, we never told them he visited our house.
---Madison1101 on 11/6/08


Christ Mass is un-Christ like. Christmas is based on paganism and is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.
---Bill on 11/7/07


I wouldn't say it's a sin--it's more of a cultural practice.

If you don't want to say Santa gave the gifts, just explain that other children's parents like to pretend he did, and that they shouldn't ruin the fun by telling other kids.

In fact, it might be best not to exchange gifts at all on Christmas. Waiting till Epiphany is traditional, extends the holiday season, de-emphasizes the matrialism of Xmas, and gives an excuse to re-read the Gospels.
---Nancy on 11/4/07


What's the matter with explaining who the real St. Nicholas was (commemoration on 6 December), and explain how he merged with the English Father Christmas and the Dutch Sinterklaas?

Then how Santa Clause is a game we play at Christmastime.
---Jack on 10/18/07


Why do we tell our children, who trust us, to have hope in someone who is false over the joy in having hope in someone is real? Can't we celebrate the birth of Jesus without the distraction of Santa? I am amazed at how many Christian parents think that somehow they are depriving their children by not including the Santa lie. I just don't get it.
---Mike on 12/14/06




I've told my children that we can all be Santa Clause cause we can all learn to give and share. We had a tradition in our house on Christmas Eve of reading the bible story of Jesus's birth and also reading the story of The Night Before Christmas. They understood one was real and one was not. But that the spirit of love and sharing was in both.
---grace3869 on 11/2/06


Donna, My children have an imagination and they don't believe in Santa Clause, Easter Bunny, Tooth fairy. They pretend to be cowboys on adventure or airplane pilots on a mission or David and Goliath. THIS is a healthy imagination. Imagination is, by definition, something made up, a fake. Do your kids know that Satan Clause is a fake? If not they aren't using their imagination, they are using Believing faith. Child like faith should be used to believe in Jesus, not Satan Clause.
---jason on 10/17/06


You'd better watch out, you'd better not cry
You better not pout I'm telling you why,
JESUS CHRIST IS COMING TO TOWN!
He's making a list, checking it twiced.
Gonna find out whose naughty or nice,
JESUS CHRIST IS COMING TO TOWN.
He know's when you're sleeping " You're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake!
---jason on 10/17/06


What's wrong with Santa Claus,or Mickey Mouse,The Tooth Fairy or Easter Bunny...if you don't confuse them with Jesus, your children won't either! Kids ARE smart. Kids need to use BOTH imagination and logic. Most kids figure out from experience that Santa (et al.) can't exist...but they still enjoy playing the game! Discovering the truth about Santa is a rite of passage.

Children don't learn greed, selfishness,lack of gratitude from Santa. Character traits are learned from PARENTS!
---Donna2277 on 10/16/06


Becca, I can just hear that. That's funny. Out of the mouth of babes.
---Raine on 10/15/06




Kids are pretty smart. The second year I took mine to have those Santa pix for the Grandparents, my little one, age 4, stands in line and says(really loud) "Mom, they have a new Santa Clause this year".
His Dad and I got some really dirty looks from the other parents.
---Becca on 10/14/06


I've wondered if Santa Claus survives partly out of expedience. He spares parents endless pre-Christmas begging by little children. And if a parent withholds some highly desired item, they are not forced into explanations beyond a small child...you're not old enough, it costs too much, I didn't think it was appropriate for you, I don't want you to expect EVERYTHING you want etc.

Santa is beyond blame! If child can understand some parental reasoning, he can understand that Santa is make-believe.
---Donna2277 on 10/13/06


3. Many parents use Santa's visit as a threat. "Behave yourself or Santa will not come" etc. I have never known any parents who with-held gifts from their children when they misbehaved at Christmas. What do children make of this? Is it that mum lies, or is it that she doesnt know what she's talking about, because what she said would happen didn't happen? Parents lose respect when they are inconsistent or obviously wrong. Lets stick with the truth and teach our children to do the same.
---emg on 10/13/06


2. They are heart-broken when an older sibling laughs at them for still believing in Santa (after just finding out the truth themselves). The belief in Santa teaches children to be greedy and selfish. I don't believe that there is anything positive to be achieved from telling children this lie, but there is much that is negative.
---emg on 10/13/06


1. Children who are taught about Santa Clause never get the opportunity to thank the real givers. The wrong 'person' is revered, loved and thanked for all the goodies. They ask for unrealistic gifts because they do not know that people, other than Santa, have to find the money to buy them. They feel let down when things they asked Santa to bring do not materialise and feel jealous when their friends get bigger and better gifts.
---emg on 10/13/06


Amy, God didnt create Santa. False prophets did. God created a perfect being till sin activated itself in man and ruined him. Satan loves lying or anything that goes agains God's laws, so he made man to lie.
---jana on 10/8/06


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I agree it is wrong to lie. I also thing the Sata Claus cover up is wrong. Though yes the story is cute, making an annual event in his image is NOT like visiting an amusement park. The Santa myth is too close to deity in substance. All knowing, everywhere at once, eternal being, supernatural abilities, and we must believe on faith... after all kids are almost encouraged to pray to him, write him letters, love him, etc. Add the tree of Tammuz rituals and off it goes.
---mikefl on 10/6/06


Oh brother. I hope you didn't cut school today.
---R.A. on 10/5/06


Everyone is beautiful. Christians should all know that one. We are all beautiful. We are all pretty. God made each one of us. God made the Santa Clause who existed once upon a time. He died. Tell the truth about the holiday Christians celebrate. Explain the History of Santa Clause was in worship to JESUS. It is a sin to tell kids lies about Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. But don't lie and say that Santa Clause NEVER EXISTED EITHER.
---Amy9384 on 10/4/06


James 5:12, "But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation."

In other words let your yes be yes and your no be no. If your child asked you "Is there a Santa Clause" and you told him yes when the correct answer is no, you would be going against this scripture.
---Bruce5656 on 10/4/06


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I always told my children, " As long as you believe in Santa, he will always bring you something". They are now both in their 30's and remind me each year that they still believe in Santa.

They're both wonderful Christians, and have never had a problem with the "Oh you lied to me".

I was also reminded that because of inflation, the "Tooth Fiery", pays more than we got when we were children. I never should have taught my son to read before he started 1st grade.
---kathr4453 on 10/4/06


Where in the bible does it say "lying" is a sin? I have read that bearing false witness is a sin. I do believe lying is wrong though.
---eve on 10/4/06


Children need to be told the truth about Santa Claus. That he is really a man in a red suit, and that he does not visit. He is a fictional character, just as any cartoon character.
---Helen_5378 on 10/3/06


"How about if we tell them Jesus buys the gifts and Santa delivers them?" !!! Donna, that is still a lie.
---emg on 10/2/06


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Why can't we teach our children, All good gifts come down from the Father of lights, or tell them from Jesus? How about if we tell them Jesus buys the gifts and Santa delivers them? After all, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof. Since God owns everything on earth, He really is providing the money for parents to buy the toys, amen? Just a thought...
---Donna9759 on 10/2/06


NurseR ... AS a lodger, I was once asked by the landlady whether I hgad liked a certain meal. For an easy life, I said "Yes" and was thereafter frequently dished up with the revolting muck.
If the baby does not fit your idea of beauty, just say she has a lovely smile, or rosy cheeks, or something complimentary without lying. Anyway, all babies are beautiful.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 10/1/06


Lying and fairy tales are 2 different things,do you really think that stiffeling a child's immagination is a good thing? Should they close down Disneyland because it's a lie? Lying can be harmful but fantacy??? I dunno IMHO. Can you see a difference?
---1st_cliff on 10/1/06


Have you with children "lied" to them? Needle won't hurt. We'll be there soon, kmowing it took hrs. Telling them there's no onions in the chili. I wrote to Santa & my parents knew my list for Christmas.I knew the presents were from them. It was a story & fun anticipation. I didn't worship Santa or place "mystical" powers on him. Children are smarter than you think! Having an imagination about a figure imbued with powers over reindeer, sleighs & chimney fittings is a child's realm.
---Linda on 10/1/06


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Well yes, since there is no real Santa. Why would anyone want to lie to their children? I teach my children that Santa is fake and it is mommy and daddy who buys the gifts. they asked me what happens when mommy couldn't afford to buy their kids a toy, I told them that God has little helpers.
---Rebecca_D on 10/1/06


I told my kids about santa clause when they were little.Then when they got older I explained about the 'idea' of santa, which is love.Yes, I would have liked to have taken credit for all the cool toys they got, but I rather would have them have an imagination!They knew I loved them already, didn't have to give toys.They knew what Christmas was really all about anyways, toys or not.
---sue on 10/1/06


Moderator, you say that "lying is a sin."

so... If someone shows you a really ugly baby, should you lie and say that the baby is beautiful? If someone asks you what you think of a dress they are wearing that is the most hidious thing youve ever said, should you hurt their feelings and tell them the truth? Of if a guy has a really bad combover. Or do you sidestep the issue?

Moderator - As stated lying is a sin. If someone can't answer the questions above, that person might need to consider taking some manner classes, however they don't need to take a lying course.
---NurseRobert on 10/1/06


Tell them the truth, parents get the toys to give to their children in memory of the Magi who brought gifts to baby Jesus, and in honor of God's gift of Salvation to us, who is Jesus.
---Eloy on 10/1/06


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I got told that Santa Claus visited every Christmas and that he came down the chimney. I got to a certain age and thought that Santa really did have a very big belly. So, got down on all fours and looked right up the chimney. There was no way known that Santa could fit down that chimney!! LOL. That was the end of Santa for me.
---Helen_5378 on 10/1/06


The whole thing is a lie to start off with. Christ was not born on this date. Tammus was the son of Semaranus fathered by one of the priests was born on this date She there4 lied that bcos she laid in the sun too long, she conceived of the sun. Can you imagine that? so most of Christiandom followed this farce and took it as truth. Its a lie. We cant have 2 masters. Either be with God or without.
---jana on 9/30/06


Of course it is a sin to tell children that. Santa Claus himself is a lie because he has never existed. Lying, even to little children, has a very harmful long-term effect. Parents are supposed to be trusted but if they lie to the children, then how can that child look up to them and trust them.
---Helen_5378 on 9/30/06


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