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Did anyone live before Adam and Eve?

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Ohhhhh boy Westcoast! You just dissed the GEICO cavemen!!! :)
---Leon on 10/7/07


Clearly there were no people before adam, anyone who says other wise is a neanderthal!
---Westcoast on 10/7/07


Tommy "how do you explain the sons of God and the daughters of men?" This has been asked on C.N. on several occasions and there are many answers. Sorry I don't know how to point you to them - perhaps others can. My personal belief here is that the sons of God means those who were believers in the Creator and daughters of men were unbelievers. They were unequally yoked just as many are today and that is not what God wants.
---RitaH on 10/7/07


2. Tommy, I have just typed into Google the words "Christianet daughters of men" and have been given a selection of posts here on that subject if you'd care to look them up. The opinions are varied as is usual here.
---RitaH on 10/7/07


Catherine, are you saying that Cain marrying his sister was against God's will or have I misunderstood you? It could NOT possibly have been against God's will if sisters were the only females around at the time. God made the situation the way it was so it could not possibly have been wrong. There wouldn't even have been nieces or female cousins until the following generation - and the following generation would not have existed if brothers had not married sisters.
---RitaH on 10/6/07




Here is the answer:

2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

2Ti 2:16 Keep away from worthless and useless talk. It only leads people farther away from God.

Don't you think that if this was important, God would have told us? Instead, He chooses to inspire through Paul, "For as in one man all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive."
---Linda on 10/6/07


He spoke of Adam and Christ and the only thing He spoke of as existing from the foundation of the world was the Lamb slain. Why isn't that enough? God thought it was.
---Linda on 10/6/07


Just in case you would like a literal answer to this question, the answer is yes, someone did live before Adam and Eve. His name is Jehovah-Nissi, Jehovah-Shalom, Jehovah-Tsidkenu, Jehovah-Makeddesh, Jehovah-Jireh, El-Shaddai, El-Elyon, Elohim, Jehovah-Rapha, Jehovah-Rohi......In the beginning, GOD. Would He not be enough to satisfy this burning question?
---Linda on 10/6/07


Absolutely not. This is not biblcal. Only God existed prior to angels and man.
---splaa6685 on 10/6/07


Gen. 1 tells us on day 6 that man and woman could eat all the fruit on the earth. No mention of forbidden fruit. Also, if sin had entered into the world on day 6, would God have rested? Cain went to the land of Ur and got him a wife. He did not marry his sister. Read it for yourself.
---tommy on 10/6/07




Mima: None of us are, "too old to learn something new." But, it's most important what we learn is always biblically true. Tommy's interpretation is very askew -- most definitely untrue!
---Leon on 10/6/07


Rita H, of course we are all descendants of Adam. Remember that the flood of Noah resulted in the bloodline being reduced to Noah and his sons and wives. Jesus is called the second Adam. He came into a world already populated just as the first Adam did. If not, how do you explain the sons of God and the daughters of men in Genesis 3?
---tommy on 10/6/07


Tommy, I am not sure where you are coming from, man. Adam was created on the six day and Adam became a living Soul. Also, Cain did marry one of his sisters. Alot of stuff happened that was recorded in the Bible that was against God's will even by His own people.
---catherine on 10/6/07


If we are talking about humans here then the answer is a no. god and his angels were alive before creation.
---the_watchman on 10/6/07


O I am so happy with Christianet blogs. After many years of study I have never encountered the idea that Tommy expresses here in answering this blog. I may be 70 but I'm not too old to learn something new.
---Mima on 10/5/07


1. Tommy, you obviously do not believe that we are all descendents of Adam then??? Shame, because only descendents of Adam will be saved.
---RitaH on 10/5/07


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2. The only way that we can all be descendents of Adam is if Adam and Eve's children married each other and produced the next generation. No Tommy, that was not forbidden then. It was the ONLY way that a new generation could come into existence.
---RitaH on 10/5/07


What a GREAT question. What is the answer? Well, I shall tell you what the answer is: NO.
---catherine on 10/5/07


Yes man and woman were created on the 6th day, these were not living souls as Adam was. Adam was created on the First day of the following period just as Jesus was raised on the first day of the week. Otherwise, Cain would have had to marry his sister, forbidden by God in his word. Gen 1-3
---Tommy on 10/4/07


Carol.....You need to look at the Hebrew definition of the word "replenish". Strongs def.of the word #04390 is " TO FILL ". Adam was the beginning.
---JIM on 10/30/06


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Hello Carol,
"Yes" is the answer to your question. Your scripture cite is correct. I would answer your question biblicaly and accurately but the moderator would not post it. Carol your question was not answered correctly. A blanket "no" is not an answer. Questions such as yours are ignored because of biblical ignorance and personal beliefs. I would suggest asking for biblical documentation to any question/answer you get on this site pro or con. Email me. I will answer ASAP.
---Robert on 10/28/06


In Genesis1-26-28 God told Adam and Eve to go and REPLENISH the earth. That statement alone states the earth was populated before and destroyed by God.
---carol on 10/28/06


Okebaram -
I enjoy talking with you. I disagree with you, I have a feeling if you said the sky was purple I would see it as green. But I use this as an experience to study from. I really enjoy you bringing up your views and me getting to research them. Study on brother!
---Bob on 10/27/06


Bob, don't you know that the NIV was also translated from the original Hebrew text, without reference to any English bible, just like the KJV, which came first, was. I can see you won't let go of your theory, in the face of moderately significant disproof. (But who on these blogs will?). I am convinced no one lived before Adam, but I can't mandate that you agree with me.
---Okebaram on 10/26/06


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Okebaram -
No. We could, except as I pointed out to bruce5656 the definitions he posted were in error because of the software he was using. (something to watch out for) The eye opening I was referring to is, are you ready, Just because it is faster and easier to use electronic software; you have to rely, again, on someone entering the information in correctly. The niv translation on this matter is wrong. You are relying on someone who translates English to English?!?
---Bob on 10/26/06


Bob, comparing my reference from the NIV and the definitions of "host" that Bruce listed out on 10/23/06, we can say that the KJV's "host" reffered to 1a(3) of Bruce's interpretations? I hope that your eye-opening was that "host" wasn't people here not that the NIV translation is wrong. I know you didn't find Bruce's def in your search but remember that English has been modified since KJV translators. The bible says God created man on the 6th day and He called the man Adam.
---Okebaram on 10/25/06


greetings,for mikem,having the mind capacity to worship will determine if the neanderthal is human or not.the true light,(indwelling spirit) is the deciding factor.this would place man in "God's image",having spirit in the arena of the mind.a primitive mind with capacity for spiritual development, would have the spirit,leading them to worship God on a level that a primitive mind can understand in their primitive enviroment,much like today.
---earl on 10/25/06


Bob,
Yes I do. I never thought there would be a difference between the digital and the hardcopy versions. Apparently that is something to look out for. I'll have to find my actual Strongs.
---Bruce5656 on 10/25/06


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Neanderthals, austriopithicus, homo erectus,etc-what are they?
---MikeM on 10/25/06


Part 1 Bruce5656 -
I read the strongs post, and WOW, good job. Anyway, Do you have an original Strongs Book, not a program?
The reason I ask is the definition you give is not in my Strongs.
My Strongs number 6635 says,
---Bob on 10/25/06


part 2

H6635

tsâbâ' tsebâ'âh
tsaw-baw', tseb-aw-aw'
From H6633; a mass of persons (or figurative things), especially regularly organized for war (an army); by implication a campaign, literally or figuratively (specifically hardship, worship): - appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, company, host, service, soldiers, waiting upon, war (-fare).
Then to go to prime root ....
---Bob on 10/25/06


part 3
H6633

tsâbâ'
tsaw-baw'
A primitive root; to mass (an army or servants): - assemble, fight, perform, muster, wait upon, war.

I don't see the part about stars, and other things. I see an army, servants, ready for hardship (flesh) and battle (good and evil) I don't see planets. If you have a hard copy of the strongs, look and see and let me know what you think.
---Bob on 10/25/06


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There are debates on this subject. Some believe in a pre-adamic race but I see no scriptural evidence that there were any people before God created Adam and Eve.
---Mike on 10/25/06


Bob,
I made two attempts to post the Strong's def. as recorded in God's Word for Windows program but both times the part one did not get posted. The first meaning in that entry is "1) that which goes forth, army, war, warfare, host"
---Bruce5656 on 10/24/06


Bob, I was probably using the NIV version then too. I copy my references from an online bible website, and you can choose your translation but the default is NIV if you don't reset the default or choose a translation.
---Okebaram on 10/24/06


Okebaram -
Before when we discussed this, you were using the KJV right? I was just wondering why you changed the language. I didn't realise you changed versions of the bible on me. LOL I find it interesting the two are completely different in that verse ... kinda eye opening.
---Bob on 10/24/06


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PART TWO:
1a) army, host
1a1) host (of organised army)
1a2) host (of angels)
1a3) of sun, moon, and stars
1a4) of whole creation
1b) war, warfare, service, go out to war
1c) service
---Bruce5656 on 10/23/06


What language, Bob? Those were exact copied quotes from the NIV translation of the bible!
---Okebaram on 10/23/06


MikeM -- your "historical time-line" (make that hysterical time-line) is one of the funniest things I've read in a long time...every line! But it doesn't seem right that dinosaurs have become extinct but lawyers haven't. Must be in "JURIS-IC" park there were no predators higher up in the food chain than lawyers ...same as now.
---Donna2277 on 10/23/06


AD 1604: Flowering plants appear; Wars of the Roses recommence.
AD 1664: A primate is elevated to Primate of Ireland; Archbishop Ussher successfully deduces last four out of nine digits of the age of the Earth.
AD 1674: A gibbon, as the first simian graduate of Oxford, submits Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire as D. Phil. thesis.
AD 1834: Charles Darwin attacked by giant reptile, returns home.
AD 1894: Awed by extent of glaciation, Cecil Rhodes proposes Capetown to Cairo bobsled run.
---MikeM on 10/23/06


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AD 1948: Cold War begins, starting ice age.AD 1971: Warhol paints Campbell Soup cans on walls of Lascaux caverns.AD 1983: Australopithicus wins America's Cup.AD 1988: Homo habilis evolves into Pat Robertson. AD 1990: Last Neanderthals perish in siege of Kremlin. AD 1995: Citing smoker emissions, EPA bans continental drift. Thermophilis wins Nobel prize for sequencing its own DNA while trapped in amber.
---MikeM on 10/23/06


Just an observation I made, why are some believers so quick to embrace secular nongodly science over the Word of God? Did not God already give us an answers as pointed out in Genesis? I am just asking. Doesn't the meaning of "ADAM" refer to first man or orign of man?
---Ralph on 10/23/06


Bruce5656 -
The Strongs Concordence says for the word host -
H6635

tsâbâ' tsebâ'âh
tsaw-baw', tseb-aw-aw'
From H6633; a mass of persons (or figurative things), especially regularly organized for war (an army); by implication a campaign, literally or figuratively (specifically hardship, worship): - appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, company, host, service, soldiers, waiting upon, war (-fare).
Where did you get your translation?
---Bob on 10/23/06


Bruce5656 -
Why is it so horrible that when sin entered the world, so did death by sin? Thats what it says. The actions of one man caused death by sin. After all, the actions of one man saves us all. (Christ) It does not make God have a prison camp mentality, it shows his balance. We screw up, he fixes it. (Like usual)
---Bob on 10/23/06


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AD 1215: Magna Carta eaten by Velociraptor.
AD 1324: Gunpowder introduced, dinosaurs immediately hunted to extinction.
AD 1384: Dante describes core-mantle boundary.
AD 1484: Leonardo da Vinci designs Archaeopteryx.
AD 1492: Mesoamerica emerges just in time to be discovered by Columbus, the Santa Maria is attacked by Ammonites.
---MikeM on 10/23/06


4,250 bc Lawyers rise up before Adam from the primordial slime. 4004 BC: Earth largely molten; Adam and Eve cover their shame with Asbestos.2004 BC: Breathable atmosphere develops; first sermon preached. 1914 BC: Advent of diapirism; Lot's wife turned into first salt dome. 1794 BC: Children of Ham split from Israelites, insisting that the Burgess shale fauna are kosher. Chowder invented.1624 BC: Hittites bitten by first vertebrate, 1444 BC: Pangaea broken up in accordance with the Treaty of Tartessos.
---MikeM on 10/23/06


Bob,
The word host is from the Hebrew - tsaba'
Its principle meaning is: that which goes forth.

That would include all manner of creatures not only man. It does not prove the existence of a non Adamic race.
---Bruce5656 on 10/23/06


Bob,
"And because of his trangressions, all were condemed to death, "even those who did not sin"

What kind of justice is that? That makes God to be like the commandant of some kind of prisoner of war camp where all the inmates get punished for the actions of one individual.
---Bruce5656 on 10/23/06


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Leon -
Thanks! I missed that, I must not have been looking closely. (he,he)
---Bob on 10/23/06


Okebaram -
Why in your posting did you change the language in Gen 2:1?

"vast array" from HOST of them.
Is it because Host of them means mass of people and vast array gives you the leeway to believe what you say?
---Bob on 10/23/06


Rom 5:12- 6
these verses say to me,
Adam was the vessel that sin entered into the world. He was the image of "he that was to come"(christ) And because of his trangressions, all were condemed to death, "even those who did not sin". By the acts on one man, humans were condemed, and by the acts of one,(Christ) we are saved. (the one's who ask for the free gift) These verses tell the entry point of sin, and how it is overcome by Christ.
---Bob on 10/23/06


Gen 1:27: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."

Gen 2:1: "Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array."

Rom 5:12: "[Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ] Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to ALL men, because all sinned"
Adam couldn't bring death to all men unless he was the 1st man.
---Okebaram on 10/22/06


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Bob: It's in the Book of Kookie.
---Leon on 10/22/06


Did anyone live before Adam and Eve? Yes. Gen 1:27 tells you this. By 2:1 It says everything was done all the HOST of them. Later he makes Adam and Eve. (christ blood line)

Oke - I'm having trouble finding the cookie thing (?)
---Bob on 10/21/06


The Human Genome Project has traced, mapped about 20% of the mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) going back 35,000 years, so far. (The earliest is sapian tissue from siberia) phylogenetic research man has been in North America for at least 20,000 years.

Adam was the first 'covenented man.' Nothing is revealed in scripture about those who lived before.
---MikeM on 10/21/06


Coby, Gen 4:16 and 17 tell us that Cain went to the land of Nod and he and his wife had children. It does not say that he met his wife at Nod. She must have gone with him because she would have been his sister. By this time there were many people, all close relatives. Adam and Eve did as God told them, they were fruitful and multiplied. Everyone was closely related to each other in those days because that was the way God intended it to be. We are still all related to each other, but far more distantly.
---emg on 10/21/06


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These are the 'answers' I have been given here concerning man before Adam, and evolution.

Early man fossils were created in underground labs by satanic scientist.

The fossils dont really exist.

Early man were 'soulless beings,' basically rough drafts of modern man.

Early man were the Nephelim, offsprings of the fallen angels.

The devil was allowed to create them to 'test' man, but they were never alive.

Science is all evil, and all bones should be buried/burned.
---MikeM on 10/20/06


Coke -- It's the reel thing...the surreal thing....
---Leon on 10/20/06


Kay, I just thought I needed to clear up something you said. The Gap theory DOES NOT come from people who support evolution. You obviously dont know the gap theory at all. Please educate yourself on it before you make statements like that. Google search "Ruin-Reconstruction interpretation" any the first site will explain it all.
---tofurabby on 10/20/06


Kay, Oke-Or anyone. My education is in biology. Do I change my profession to appease biblical literalism? Do I ignore clear objective reality? I see no conflict between scripture and science. I do see literalism and reality. Literalism is delusional.
---MikeM on 10/20/06


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Okebaram I think some on this blog have had enough coke all ready......
---Elder on 10/19/06


How about lil_earl & Big_Earl or perhaps lc_earl (lower case) & UC_Earl (UPPER CASE). Please work it out guys. This whole thing has gotten vErY 'uirely!

Okebaram, Jack. Hmmmmm!
---Leon on 10/19/06


WOAW! Jack. Some true insight you have there! You know I also think that Adam was actually made out of 1000-year old cookies and Eve was made from some french-fries and a coke!
---Okebaram on 10/18/06


There were both male and female here before Adam and Eve.. (over 1000 Years before) They were created on the sixth day.. Adam wasn't formed until after God had rested on the seventh day.. Then He formed Adam and later Eve..
---Jack on 10/18/06


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Coby ... What do you mean, and where does the Bible say it?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/17/06


Amen, Kay. You said it just right!
---Okebaram on 10/17/06


From what I know from the bible is that there where men of name on the earth at the time that Adam and Eve were expelled from Paradise into the world. After Kain killed Abel, he went away and became a population. Therefor he had to find a wife. I also realize that we don't have to understand everything, but if there is something to learn, I would very much like to know.
---coby6844 on 10/17/06


I believe that there was life before Adam and Eve. The bible tells us that there where men "of name". Therefor it has to be true.
---Coby on 10/17/06


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Kay ... God does not say these were literal 24 hour days.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/17/06


"Were you there Kay?"

No, but God was. Do you not trust God at His word?
---Kay on 10/17/06


Bruce, I'm wondering if YOU understand what the gap theory teaches.
---Kay on 10/17/06


Were you there Kay?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/16/06


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The gap theory does not deny a litteral 7 day creation as recorded in Genesis. I wonder what you are thinking of?

It is not contrary to scripture. It is beyond what we are told in scripture. That does not mean it denies it. There are lots of things we are not told in scripture about science and the universe around us but that does not make all that invalid or untrue just because it is not described for us in the bible.
---Bruce5656 on 10/16/06


The Genesis days of creation are literal 24 hour days. Why is it impossible for people to understand that God is powerful enough to create the world in just 6 days? How long did it take Jesus to turn water into wine? How long did it take Jesus to resurrect Lazarus? When Lazarus was told to come forth, he came forth immediately. There were no gaps between Jesus' command and the actual coming forth of Lazarus.
---Kay on 10/16/06


Yes, I do know what the gap theory is. And I don't agree with it at all. It puts death, disease and suffering before the Fall of man, which is contrary to Scripture.
---Kay on 10/16/06


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