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The Catholic belief is that you don't have to be Catholic to go to heaven. Roman Catholics believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. What is a Chrisitan if not that?

Moderator - The Bible states that there is only one way to get to heaven through His son Jesus Christ not Mary or good works.

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The Catholic church professes Jesus Christ-Savior of the World-Son of God-full of grace & truth. Father-Son-Holy Spirit.
There is a heaven & hell. The devil exists.
Christ ascended to the Father-sits at the right hand of the father=to Him-the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ or Lord.

now saved....faith into action stems from that belief and trust in Jesus. Out of that generally comes good works. the Blessed Mother always leads people to her Son.

Looks like a win win situation for us the children of God.
---paul on 3/27/09


BryanG ... You continue with your outrageous accusations of the RCC.

There are many paedophiles outside the RCC ... and other denominations have the same problems. From my own limited contacts, I know of several "Christian leaders" men who have tried to seduce boys.

You may not accept the teachings of the RCC (nor do I and I think their attitude to married priests is unbiblical) BUT that is no justification for your exaggerations, which have effectively become a lying accusation.
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/9/09


I wasn't trying to make it sound like that's the only way child molesters are made, but tell me where in the bible a preist was ever made to abstain from marriage in order to become a preist. That is not biblical! Even in the Old Testament preists had wives. I'm making an accurate observation. Why are so many Catholic preists being caught for child molestation? If they're burning with passion, then they should marry! Why does the Pope protect them from prosecution? He takes them out of one church and moves them to another! And what about all of the other false doctrine that Catholicism teaches believers to practice? It's all modern day paganism whether you were raised with it or not! I was a Catholic before I got saved! Now I know Jesus!
---BryanG on 2/9/09


BryanG
The true church doesn't command men to make vows to abstain from marriage when we don't all have the self control! That's how child molesters are made!

You make a scandalous accusation.

Child molesters may well be drawn into positions where they have easy access to children ... such as kids' clubs & organisations, Bible classes, teaching profession, ministry, even marrying a woman with young children.

The RCC is not alone in having these problems. The child molesters that I have come across in the Protestant denominations did not take that vow not to marry.
---alan8566_of_UK on 2/9/09


The true church doesn't pray to Mary! We pray to God the Father in the name of Jesus! The true church doesn't call the pope Holy Father! Only God is our Holy Father! The true church doesn't pray to the saints! All of those who believe and obey Jesus Christ are His saints! The true church doesn't confess their sins to a preist that's a man! We are not under the law! We confess our sins to God through His Holy Spirit, because Jesus died to make it so! The true church doesn't pray the rosary! The rosary and every other statue or picture that is prayed to is made an idol by the person praying to it! The true church doesn't command men to make vows to abstain from marriage when we don't all have the self control! That's how child molesters are made!
---BryanG on 2/8/09




No where is it written a Catholic is not saved. It's all about Jesus Christ. It always was, is,forever will be,world without end Amen.

Jesus saved us by his grace alone. Our faith is proven through works- faith put into action. you must have read this before:Rom.2-13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified: 5...in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6 who will render to every man according to his works: James2:18Yea, a man will say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I by my works will show thee my faith.
James2:26
For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from works is dead.
---paul on 12/7/08


Char: -I know you desire to have one True church as Jesus describes .But it Has to be HIS WAY not what man wants .He came to spread His gospel and institited "My Church"Matt16:13-19 the other churches grew like mushrooms by whose guidance??If not Jesus then Who and if you say by Jesus then why would he make 2(TWO) churches.?This is why he says "those who are not with me are against me."clever men try to put forward a different agenda,BUT THEY ARE NOT HIS.
---Mic on 12/6/08


Paul,This works both ways.Some say, if others are not within the Roman Catholic Church they are not in "The true Church".
No where is it written one must be Roman Catholic to be saved.

Matt 16:18
SUBJECT IS "SON OF GOD"...
as proven over and over in the spoken and written word...
Revelation of who the Son of God is...
JESUS CHRIST.
If you believe...
If you believe...you will confess
If you believe...you will be baptize
If you believe..you will be transformed
If you believe...you will be saved
ETC...
This is between Our Father and that person...
God alone is judge.
AS INSTRUCT: ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER THRU THE LOVE OF CHRIST...
To God alone be the Glory.

God's Peace.
---char on 12/4/08


To insinuate A person who worships Jesus in the Catholic church is not Christian is not the truth.
To tell someone who loves Jesus that they are not Christian, is completely out of line.

Again the Catholic church does not tell people they must follow a Marian devotion to be saved.

God Bless you.
---paul on 12/4/08


The moderator said it perfectly...simple and to the point and biblically sound.
---Anne on 11/30/08




when one believes in Jesus and has faith in Him, good works are the fruit of that faith.
faith into action. It tends to be the trend.

The Catholic church never said you have to attend Marian devotion to gain eternal life.
They only said Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
The Catholic church never said don't believe in Jesus and you will get to heaven if you don't have faith in HIM.

Catholic means universal....faith in Jesus.
for anyone to claim otherwise is false.
God bless you!
---paul on 11/30/08


Eloy, not only have you shown me no evidence of the word spirit used as a metaphor anywhere in scripture to mean "symbolic", you also still haven't addressed Jesus' use of the word "trogo" for eat.

The Lord knew the language well and he used these words for a reason, Eloy.
---augua9846 on 11/29/08


the devils ALSO believe and tremble . just believing doesnt get you to heaven
---r.w. on 11/18/06


ELOY my friend::We are all entitled to seek the truth, but Not what we make of it but How OUR God Jesus wants us to see it, is HIS way not our interpretation & this is what we must eschew in our hearts, till we reach that ONENESS which He seeks.Satan entraps the good not the wicked.
---Emcee on 11/9/06


ELOY my friend::We are all entitled to seek the truth, but Not what we make of it but How OUR God Jesus wants us to see it, is HIS way not our interpretation & this is what we must eschew in our hearts, till we reach that ONENESS which He seeks.Satan entraps the good not the wicked.
---Emcee on 11/9/06


*Eloy - "I have no further word to say on the issue" *

I noticed this when you refused to address the word trogo Jesus used when He said to eat His flesh.

Eloy, you have set yourself up pope and in doing so you're missing out on many blessings. I've had what you had and it doesn't come close to comparing to the gift Jesus gave us in the Holy Eucahrist.
---augua9846 on 11/8/06


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*But notice, no one question him and said "Why you are calling me a dog,sheep,goats, wheat... But when he says "You must eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you". They ask " How can this man give us his Flesh."*

Yep. Jesus always explained His teachings too and made sure his followers understood Him. In Jn 6 however, He let them walk away because He HAD explained it. However they were trying to discern His words from the flesh instead of spiritually.
---augua9846 on 11/8/06


emcee, what I repeatedly have said is the truth, and I have no further word to say on the issue.
---Eloy on 11/8/06


Nana:I do not know, you but this I say,Your selection of Jn 17;21 is an excellent illustration of Catholic universatality.This is what satan is attempting to WRECK.The oneness.I wish more people on this CN, had the religious fortitude as you .Your wisdom bespeaks your years, Nana,is Grandma & applaud you.My Nana was also staunch like a ROCK.
---Emcee on 11/8/06


Eloy-(ruben, look up the meaning of metaphor and you should know what Jesus was saying. Jesus called people, dogs, sheep, goats, wheat, etc; and even he was called the Lamb of God,) But notice, no one question him and said "Why you are calling me a dog,sheep,goats, wheat, you forgot a door. But when he says "You must eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you". They ask " How can this man give us his Flesh."
---ruben on 11/8/06


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Can a Catholic be a Christian yes but hear me out before U pick up the stones-if newly saved and a baby. We are all at different points in the "race", now can he be in that church for 25yrs and be..no God requires growth. U can not pray to saints, Mary, etc. The only way to God the Father and Heaven is Jesus. So it is a tricky question a newly saved baby yes but he will tire of the milk and feel convicted praying to saints and will want to move on seeking "meat."
---Jeanne on 11/8/06


emcee, I respect and am encouraged by your friendship. it is true that we may differ in traditions but these should not seperate us from the heart of the gospel that we should be agents of change in people's lives, by bringing people to our Lord Jesus. it is only when we stop protesting each other that we will see God's Kingdom make real advances in this world today.
---Jared on 11/8/06


Eloy::It is unfair & unworthy of you to declare that this doctrine pushed by the catholic church.The bible says this in several places. This remembrance you insist on, was at the last supper & its instituition."He who eats my Body & Drinks my blood I live in Him & He in me" Has no reference to a remembrance. Why do you close your mind?It creates discension.Many did not understand, same as you but did Jesus change his stand??If not then the answer is the same NOW.Your choice.
---Emcee on 11/8/06


Jared, I am clear on the fact that it is wine and the bread, well just that. Jesus
used the images of flesh and blood quite frequently. Here is such another:
Matthew 16: 17: And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
---Nana on 11/8/06


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Jesus came preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God; Mark 1:14.
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel., Mark 1:15. In so many ways he described the kingdom of God.
---Nana on 11/8/06


Mark 14:38: Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak. John 14:23: Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
---Nana on 11/8/06


Way beyond with all thy heart, and with all and as yourself is the end of the mystery to me: John 17: 21: That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
---Nana on 11/8/06


Nana just so you know the wine is still wine it's not blood. but there is a MYSTERY that the church is trying to discribe in it's traditions. by saying there is a real presence they are explaining that Jesus himself has mysteriously/supernaturally changed what was once bread into something greater, a tool or instrament to deepen our relationship with God through Christ. For me I don't have to know exactly everything because alittle mystery is cool at times.
---Jared on 11/8/06


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Deuteronomy 12: 23: Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.
John 6: 53: Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
---Nana on 11/8/06


John 4:23: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Now, we
probably all agree with John 4:23 that it is in spirit that we worship. To non Catholics and
non Communion practicioners it is enough John 6: 29: Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
---Nana on 11/8/06


Now how to reconcile those two? Maybe we can read Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. So, as long as one does not leave the other undone. go have your communion and be blessed. Or dont have the communion and be blessed. Just be blessed specialy one to another.
---Nana on 11/8/06


Jared,
"If you have sinned you are an idolator, because sin puts something else before God."
(11/4/06)
Those words have great wisdom! I agree it is true.
---Nana on 11/8/06


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augua, I understand that this is a catholic indoctrination, but nevertheless it is a corruption of the scriptures; for the whole passage deals with people who were hungry, and even before the blessing was given they greedily consumed the bread and wine, and it has nothing to do with being a sinner or nonsinner as you have said.
---Eloy on 11/7/06


.ruben, look up the meaning of metaphor and you should know what Jesus was saying. Jesus called people, dogs, sheep, goats, wheat, etc; and even he was called the Lamb of God, but it's not literal, Jesus did not turn into a sheep or a vine, and we did not turn into branches or wheat. I feel sorry for you because you are not discerning the truth. I pray that you will truly get saved, then you will truly know the truth. In Jesus I pray. Amen.
---Eloy on 11/7/06


augua, I am not going to reiterate incessantly this truth to you that Communion is a spiritual participation in the memory of what Jesus has done for us, because you are bent on believing whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 11/7/06


Jared:To read your answer is very encouraging yet I need to say not any communion but those by consecrated Hands causes the change.You see this was only given to the successors of Jesus.I hope you do not misunderstand & raise a point of contention.Because it is painful for me as much as it maybe to you I have been a catholic from Birth.
---Emcee on 11/7/06


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I do believe in the real prescience of christ in worship. I like that idea alot better then just a memorial. because by memorializing things, we are doing the worship. and this is not accurate, we participate in the worship and relationship that is already going on, and through the spirit we are given the privilage to worship, we don't do it its already being done.
---Jared on 11/7/06


3. The early church was very clear in their belief in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. in about 110 AD St. Ignatius of Antioch in his Letter to the Romans 7,3 said:

"I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the Bread of God, which is the Flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible."
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


*augua, the FLESH Jesus gace up on the cross was his REAL FLESH, but the BREAD and the WINE that he shared at the passover was SYMBOLIC of his sacrifice*

Again Eloy, Jesus said 'I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.'

Con't...
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


2. This very same flesh He said we must "eat". And He tells us that His flesh is REAL meat, not "metaphorical" meat, and that It is to be *literally* eaten.
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


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*Eloy-(Here now, eat me.) yes, he did " This this all of you and eat it, this is my body". You keep mentioning " Do this in memory of me", but what do you do with " This is my body ingore it...*

Good point, Ruben. There's no sense in trying to understand the 'why" till you know the 'what' and the 'how'.

con't
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


2. Jesus said: "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.: Mt 26:28

The word "is" in both verses is the Greek word "esti" and it means "is" and not "is a symbol for."

The same word is used in Mt 17:5: "While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This IS [esti] my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him."
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


Eloy-(ruben, I already said what the passage means) Well Eloy, the last thing I will say is if we were to go back in time with our Bible, I would enter the upper room and listen to Jesus command " Take this all of you and eat it, This is my Body". You on the other hand would be reluctant to enter and wait outside in the hallway with our Bible open to the Gospel of John Chapter 6 verses 6:52 " How can this man give us his flesh" Cont
---Ruben on 11/7/06


Eloy- 6:60 " Many of his disciples heard this "This teaching is hard, Who can understand it?" 6:66 " Because of this many of Jesus followers turned back and would not go with him any more. Maybe on your way back, you will get to travel on the road to Emmaus where Jesus will appear in your mist, Luke 24:30 " He sat down to eat with them, took the bread, and said the blessing: then he broke the bread and gave it to them. Then their eyes were open and they recognized him"
---Ruben on 11/7/06


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Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord."

Paul did not say you profane a "symbol" of the body and blood of the Lord. He said you profane the body and blood of the Lord. (1 Cor 11:26-30). But Paul was not done.

(con't)
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


In the very next verse Paul says:

"28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself."

The message is that if you partake of the Eucharist unworthily [in a state of sin] you commit a sin that will bring judgement [condemnation] upon you. (cont)
---augua9846 on 11/7/06


.ruben, I already said what the passage means, even as Jesus himself also said exactly the same thing which I have said to you, but you are not accepting it because you are not comprehending the spiritual definition of Jesus' words, and neither are you able because they are spiritually discerned. Therefore you must be converted in order to understand the spiritual things of God, as like the annual passover sacrifice relating to Jesus being the passover lamb to be sacrificed.
---Eloy on 11/6/06


.ruben, I can read and write perfectly well, and Jesus did not say, Eat "me". You may be reading into the scriptures what is not actually there, else you may have one of the many Unholy bibles which you are reading from.
---Eloy on 11/6/06


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Yeah he did he said when you eat a meal remember that God is the true source and meaning of life, that God is the true strengthening componant to life, and that without God we are dead, just as if you go without food you will die. Remember he was Eating a meal, not just Bread and wine, and he was eating a passover meal which means that everything had meaning and he was saying that all that meaning is summed up in him.
---Jared on 11/5/06


Eloy-(Here now, eat me.) yes, he did " This this all of you and eat it, this is my body". You keep mentioning " Do this in memory of me", but what do you do with " This is my body ingore it...I don't think soo...
---ruben on 11/5/06


jared, If you think of three different meanings while participating in Communion, that is your thinking. But Jesus told us exactly how and why we do it, and it was only for one primary reason, which is why he came to earth in the first place, to die in our place and pay the price for our sin so that we are saved.
---Eloy on 11/4/06


.jared, I am a well-doer, not a sinner. You cannot serve sin and God. "Know you all not, that to whom you all yield yourselves servants to obey, his slaves you all are to whom you all obey; whether of sin onto death, or of obedience onto righteousness? Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that you all should obey it in the lusts thereof. For you all are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." Romans 6:16,12; I Corinthians 6:20.
---Eloy on 11/4/06


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The Catholic Communion is just as important [to Catholics] as the Protestant Communion is [to Protestants].

Rachel
---Reiter on 11/4/06


Eloy, then why were the early christians called canabals? there are at least 3 views of the bread and wine all three are equally right and equally wrong. I like all three and personally when I take communion (which isn't often since I'm a quaker) I reflect on all 3 because it is important. the real presence shows christ gaven himself so we can live. spiritual presence the spirit infills us and strengthens us and the memorial that we should remember all that he did for us.
---Jared on 11/4/06


Thank you Grace.
The early Christians, although they may not have called themselves that, were gathered together before Pentecost.
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/4/06


augua, the FLESH Jesus gace up on the cross was his REAL FLESH, but the BREAD and the WINE that he shared at the passover was SYMBOLIC of his sacrifice, it was REAL BREAD and REAL WINE. He said partake of this IN REMEMBRANCE of me, and he did not say, Here now, eat me. Enough said, if you choose to believe a lie that the elements are magically turned into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus during Communion, then that is your foolishness, nevertheless it is not the truth.
---Eloy on 11/4/06


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augua, catholics have their own gospel, but born-again Christians have the true gospel. Jesus said to a Nicodemus, a religious man of the ministers of the Jews, he must be born again or he cannot see the kingdom of God. All his law-keeping and all his rules and regulations-keeping was not enough for salvation. Just as all the religion in the world cannot not save a soul, for you can devote your whole entire life to God and spend all of your days inside the church and still not be saved and born-again.
---Eloy on 11/4/06


If you have sinned you are an idolator, because sin puts something else before God. If you are saying you are without sin then hey I stand corrected. but for those of us that are not perfect we tend to fall away and then repent and come back to christ. it's called sanctification eventually we will be sinning less and less through the power of God's Spirit working in our lives. Isiah the prophet considered himself unclean as well, yet God uses sinners to futher his kingdom. That's all I mean.
---Jared on 11/4/06


Alan of Uk ::Without a doubt The Catholic Jesus church started from its inception by the utterancce of Jesus words as in Math16;17-19I already wrote an answer to this but must have been lost in the kerfuffle or gone for higher editing.
---Emcee on 11/3/06


I never said that Jesus was a Chritian, or a followere of Himself.
I was trying to say that Jesus is still alive, and was alive (but not His physical body) as He guided the creation of the Christian brotherhood in the early days, and still does today.
---alan8869_of_UK

Well either He did or the Holy Spirit did.
---grace3869 on 11/3/06


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Greace ... I never said that Jesus was a Chritian, or a followere of Himself.
I was trying to say that Jesus is still alive, and was alive (but not His physical body) as He guided the creation of the Christian brotherhood in the early days, and still does today.
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/3/06


Grace ... "Jesus Christ did not start Christianity - he was not a follower of himself. It started after his death"
Really??? ... and I thought that Jesus is alive!
It was only His physical, human body that died.

Pffffttt - he is still not a follower of himself. It is the people that believe in Him that started Christianity. Jesus was a Jew.
---grace3869 on 11/3/06


Grace ... "Jesus Christ did not start Christianity - he was not a follower of himself. It started after his death"
Really??? ... and I thought that Jesus is alive!
It was only His physical, human body that died.
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/3/06


#1.

*Helen writes to aug: "The RCC did not start till about 300-400 years after the death of Jesus and the Apostles."***

189 AD --"But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the succession of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper,"

con't
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


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2.

"by pointing out here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles."

(cont)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


3.

"With that church, because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition."

Irenaeus Bishop of Lyons, Against Heresies 3:3:2 [189 AD]
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


4.

"St. Irenaeus was bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul, which is now Lyons, France. He was a disciple of Polycarp, who himself was a disciple of John the Evangelist. He is recognized as a saint by both the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church, and his writings were formative in the early development of Christian theology. His most famous work is Against Heresies, a lengthy description and refutation of Gnosticism." (cont)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


5.

"Irenaeus, bishop of Lyons, is the most important witness to ecclesiastical tradition before Eusebius."

Religion Facts (Non-Catholic website)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


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*augua9846,.. I have already cited where "pneuma" refers to spiritual things, and that the eating and drinking of the elements in Communion *

Eloy, Jesus said "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life."

(cont)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


You say spirit (pneuma) means symbolic. Replace the word spirit with the words symbol/symbolic then see how this passage would then read, Eloy...

It is the *Symbol* who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are *symbolic*, and they are life. (*words mine)

We know this isn't right, because Symbols aren't life, Jesus is.

cont
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


3

Christ said: "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."

Christ said the flesh we are to eat is the VERY same flesh He will give up on the cross. Was the flesh He gave up on the cross "symbolic" Eloy, or was It real?
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


Hello brother Emcee, you always say one flock, what you really want to say is that it is one church, your church. But Christ begin the Church at Pentacost. This Church is the Body of Christ. The Bride of Christ. While you continue to insist it is your church, It is talking about Christ Church, and it is a spiritual Church, baptized into one body, by the Holy Spirit.
---karen on 11/3/06


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augua9846, Again to you, I have already cited where "pneuma" refers to spiritual things, and that the eating and drinking of the elements in Communion are "spiritual" which is "symbolic" of when Jesus offered up his innocent life as a sacrifice for us; all done IN REMEMBRANCE of him. Please open and read the scriptures which I cited below.
---Eloy on 11/2/06


jared, everyone is not an idolater. I am not an idolater, neither is any true born-again Christian an idolater. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 11/2/06


Augua9846 - ("Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox are the original Christians".) How do you figure that? Christianity began with Jesus Christ when He was on earth. The RCC did not start till about 300-400 years after the death of Jesus and the Apostles.

Jesus Christ did not start Christianity - he was not a follower of himself. It started after his death. And it started with the Apostles - hence the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed.
---grace3869 on 11/2/06


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