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Iraq From A Christian Viewpoint

What is your position on the war in Iraq? Can you defend your position from a Christian point of view?

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Ranting #2--lol; I watched last night on the news that they are also sending young men and women with PTSD back to Iraq for their second or more terms! God help us!
---Mary on 11/1/08


Randy -- The Saudis want us out of the whole Middle East...so? If we hadn't listened to them before the Gulf War, we might not even be there now!
---Donna2277 on 10/29/06


Rany ... it was the way you said "you will believe what you want to believe"
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/29/06


Alan, No I am not Eloy.
Having lived in Saudi Arabia for a year, I can promise you they want us out of the gulf. We are corrupting them with our liberal ideas, like women driving, freedom of religion, etc. They never wanted us here in their sacred land, which is from Yemen to Syria to Iran. Some consider it as far west as Spain and as far east as India.
---randy on 10/29/06


I myself don't believe we belong in Iraq. I'm not saying we should pull out immediatly or all at once. Pull out gradually with in the next two years at the most. Our fight was not with Sadam Hussein but with Osama Bin Laden. We have lost enough of our men and women and the Iraq Army isn't equipped enough to fight. If the people in Iraq are getting tired of this war and want to go back to the Taliban, then what would happen to us over here. We need our men and women here to defend us if that happens.
---Norma7374 on 10/28/06




Randy-- Wasn't it the SAUDI's who begged us to fight in the first place? They didn't think they could handle it alone if Iraqi neighbors got involved. :"(
(I may be old but my memory isn't quite gone). THEN, when we got over there, they decided to let us do the WHOLE job without them. And we still call them allies!
---Donna2277 on 10/28/06


Randy --I don't doubt the Saudis want us out of the Gulf now. Does that mean we should leave?
If we duck out of Iraq, at least if we leave right now, the terrorists will have won. A lot of people in The U.S. think Iraq has nothing to do with the "war on terror"...but all the jhadist groups know better.
---Donna2277 on 10/28/06


Randy ... That leaves me confused. Are you, or not?
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/28/06


Alan, Thanks, I think. = )
I just like spirited dialogue. Donna is always a good sparing partner.
---randy on 10/28/06


Randy = Eloy ????
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/27/06




We had to beg Saudi Arabia to support us in the first Gulf War. They do not support the current war and want us out of the Gulf NOW. Having lived in Saudi Arabia and other middle east countries for many years, I know that your facts are wrong. But you will believe what you want to believe.
---randy on 10/27/06


Randay -- We went against Iraq when they invaded Kuwait since Saudi Arabia asked us to. We left promptly, as soon as Iraq was repelled, but the anti-Saddam Iraqis and other Shia asked us to stay and help them rid that country of the dictator. We didn't. But there were some in the State Dept that wondered if we should have. Iraq was the at the top of NATOs list of terrorist countries, a natural suspect after 9/11. I'm tired of politics...go vote...then live with it.
---Donna2277 on 10/26/06


Sadam did attack Kuwait, but the length of time of the conflict and the body count were far less than his attacks on Iran. 10,000 people died in one battle on one day during the Iraq/Iran conflict. But I can see from the news today that bush has CUT AND RUN from STAY THE COURSE.
---randy on 10/26/06


Randy --Apparently you haven't had your fill of politics yet. Well, I have. The best thing for you to do is to study some history. You'll find answers to some of your questions if you read about the background and causes of the Gulf War conflict.
---Donna2277 on 10/25/06


You are right, Freedom isnt free, but with this administration, the lower and middle classes are paying for it both financially and with the blood of their children while the rich continue to prosper. Sadams missiles couldnt make it to the US, but Kim Young Ils missiles can with nuclear weapons. Again, why did we attack Iraq? If Sadam was such a threat to the area why didnt our allies, like Saudi Arabia or Jordan, do something about him? The country he attacked the most was also our enemy, Iran.
---randy on 10/25/06


Jack, thanks for the news on Boulos Iskander.

SufferingToWatch, thank you! Can we add the DRC too?

Darlene, who'd Iraq bomb? Also, do you know the Sudanese gov't is believed to have a healthy relationship with Al Queda? Further, Darfur didn't refuse UN troops, the Sudanese gov't did. Though they deny a role in crimes there, the Sudanese government has supplied the Janjaweed with arms and even participated in attacks against those in Darfur. Of course, they don't want the UN to stop them!
---AlwaysOn on 10/25/06


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Randy-- Hitler wasn't the "worst" in the world either...he wasn't the main reason we got into into WWII. But I'm glad he was stopped. Nobody likes war...we'd like it even LESS if it was here in the U.S. Ever hear the expression, "freedom isn't free"? It isn't free for anyone, not even us. Take it for granted and it's gone before you know it.
---Donna2277 on 10/24/06


It was said below: "evidently God isn't against war." The battle of God's people with the heathen nations was a spiritual battle. God used Israel to bring judgment on nations just as he used nations to bring judgment on them.

George Bush is not God.
---Bruce5656 on 10/24/06


Removing Sadam was never a stated goal, it was all about WMD. Was he a bad man? Yes. The worst in the world? No. We know now that there was limited Al Qaeda in Iraq before the war now there is more. The death total is now closer to 3000 for US troupes. The administration low-balls the civilian death count at 100,000. More than Sadam supposedly killed during his years in office. The cavalier attitudes about the deaths are a sad testament to how we Americans view war.
---randy on 10/24/06


Randy -- Only part of our mission was accomplished when Saddam's govt fell. When WWII ended, it was because Japan and Germany surrendered...we fought until they did. For the sake of perspective, Deaths of Americans in World War II, totaled 1,078,000 (In Iraq we've lost roughly 2,000 in about the same amount of time).
The post-war recovery, however, in Europe and Japan took many years.
---Donna2277 on 10/23/06


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Darfur didn't bomb USA or other countries. We aren't in Iraq or Afghanistan to right the civil wrongs there,that is a secondary outcome of the principle purpose,to fight terrorist who bombed USA and other countries. Those fighting against terrorism can't police the whole world or get involved in Civil Wars. Most of all Darfur has turned down the offer of help from the UN who offered 20000 men to help restore peace there.
---Darlene_1 on 10/23/06


Good answer, suffering to watch!! I was wondering when someone would mention that; I've often wondered myself!
---Mary on 10/22/06


Why don't we have troops getting shot to pieces in Darfur as well as Iraq if injustice is good cause for America to be the world's policemen?
---suffering_to_watch on 10/21/06


I beg, urge, coax, and plead with everyone who reads this to do a websearch for

Boulos Iskander

He was the Syrian Orthodox priest who was martyred and dismembered.

The story is all over the net.

Also read other links on these pages to hear about how Christians in general are treated in predominatly Muslim countries. One Christian teacher is even in jail for disciplining a Muslim student!
---Jack on 10/21/06


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I am against war's ravages but evidently God isn't against war. Time and again he fought on the side of Israel to defeat their enemies and even to take the land. Our President acted on information he was given it isn't his fault it was wrong,if it was.We don't know what was slipped out of Iraq and hidden. It's easy for arm chair politics to judge when you don't have to answer for that judgement. Donna 2277 very well stated.
---Darlene_1 on 10/21/06


America overthrew a ruthless dictater in Iraq. Dictaters live and thrive all over the world, some supported by the U.S.-as long as they do Washingtons bidding. The essential fact is Iraq sits on top of a massive oil reserve. It was/is about oil, nothing more. This War, like most other wars are about money, power.
---MikeM on 10/21/06


When was the last time a German or a Japanese took a shot at an American soldier? It didnt take four years after we had MISSION ACCOMPLISHED after WW2 to get the situation under control. Bush is trying to do this on the cheap while our soldiers suffer and his friends get rich.
---randy on 10/21/06


2 oints.
1/ I`m with Jack, the only Christians who have a valid opinion on the war, are those who are being persecuted for their faith, in Iraq. The true oldest churches, Chalcedean amongst others, are to be found in Iraq.
2/ There are two names we will never find on the causalty list: Blair and bush. I don't know if the President has any kids, but Tony Blair has a son old enough to serve in the war, but never will.
---mike8384 on 10/21/06


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I don't like the Iraq war either. We didn't know there was going to be a war when we voted for G Bush. What was the other alternative in voting? As I see it we made the right choice as far as morals go. God will take care of the rest. The Iraq war is for a reason. We may not see it now, but we'll know more later.
---wayne on 10/21/06


Notlaw, explain to me just WHAT influnence we have there now??

We still have forces in Germany and Japan becuase those countries want us there. They appreciate the bucks that we provide to thier local economies, as well as the defense we provide them. It was also in the best interest, during the cold war, for us to be there.

While I support the troops, and always will, I do NOT support this war and NEVER will. It was a mistake from the beginning, based on lies and false information.
---NurseRobert on 10/21/06


**I Support the Troops and the Mission, to do less is Treason.**
If this statement were not so scary it would be laughable. We have yet to be informed at to what the mission is. I have never supportedthis war, but am here in the Gulf, hopefully doing my part to bring this conflict to a quick and just end. As a Viet Nam era vet that continues to serve my country as a civil servant in a critical threat environment, I take EXTREME umbrage at being called a traitor.
---randy on 10/21/06


Many will wish to burn me at the stake for my opinion...(PTL for the Internet)..but I believe the cause was noble from a CHRISTIAN standpoint. Saddam Hussein had thousands of his people, all ages...not just killed, but raped, tortured, maimed, beheaded or buried alive. The Iraqis now have a democratic government, not a dictator. (Doubt they make it work, but they've been given a chance.)
Our forces are VOLUNTEERS. Many believe that a FREE society...even somebody else's.. is worth fighting for.
---Donna2277 on 10/20/06


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My position on Iraq is that the terrorists are insane madmen who can not be reasoned with, nor trusted, or identified. This is not about all people that are Iraqis, nor Islam, or Asian, but evil men who hold guns to kill anyone who do not believe as they do. This is the vow they take and stand on, "Death to the infidels who are Christian." I know I am dead should they take over. My prayer is the veil of the Muslim land be lifted in Jesus name and may God's truth reign in people's heart...
---joan4689 on 10/20/06


There is a beautiful new song called Kneeling by Ceili Rain. It talks about asking what position a person has on certain topics and the answer is My position is kneeling (in prayer)

Grace
---grace3869 on 10/20/06


no one has the rite to take life.but god
---jamea5375 on 10/20/06


You very seldom hear on the news about how Christian churches in Iraq are continually vandalized and even bombed.

Just last week a Syrian Orthodox priest (non-Chalcedonian) was kidnapped, held for ransom--and then beheaded and his body dismembered in a way similar to the horrible case in New Orleans.

I could give a link, but it's against the policy here.

Again, this is NOT something you will hear on the national news.
---Jack on 10/20/06


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The troops are a target and we need to get them out of the citys so that the cities will raise armies and fight an honest war.

Force the fight in the open let em kill each other and reorganize and then fight them in open war in the countryside.

The only Christian motive I can draw is to save the lives you actually have control over.
---Pharisee on 10/20/06


Iraq is a situation that we just cannot pull our forces out of. If The US pulls it forces out some thing else is going to replace our influence in the region and if that is a fundamentalist Islamic regime it is not to our long term advantage. World War II has been over for more than 60 years and we still have forces based in Germany and Japan. And I would suspect that our presence in Iraq will be equally as long. I Support the Troops and the Mission, to do less is Treason.
---notlaw99 on 10/20/06


If the Muslim God is powerful why can't these malfactors fight in open war and fight knowing their God is with them and kill the "great Satan." What kind of man hides among women and children and declares war?

They're cowards and hirelings who serve a God of hate.
---Pharisee on 10/20/06


All that's left is an armchair general's view, it's a war or it's packing up and coming home.

We need to pray.
---Pharisee on 10/20/06


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My position is, I have no position. We're not to be concerned with wars or rumors of wars, we're told not to be entangled with the day-to-day in this world, we're told to pray and love. I pray for our leaders & our military soldiers, I pray for the people of Iraq & that for all these people God's will be done. As far as George W. Bush being a poor president I think many people do not understand the magnitude and responsibility of his position, I would not want to trade places with him.
---Ryan on 10/20/06


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