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American Churches Are Laodicea

Aren't American Protestant churches really Laodicea? Most members are mere spectators. Sermons are watered down for fear of reduced contributions to debt ridden organizations. Rock bands and chant songs are used to keep youth attending. No real leadership for whole Bible study. What should we do?

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//Nicole, the word church has a completely different meaning today than it did in Jesus' time.//

Maybe with your church, but NOT MY CHURCH.

Same with Jesus when He started the RCC as today.

//To today so-called Christians//

Maybe you have a poor view of the understanding of what makes one a Christian.

Either you are a Christian or not.

//..the word "church" means a building or a denomination just by the way they use the term.---Steveng on 10/30/16

They are wrong.

If you kept saying 2+2=5 a million times and you convince a million people to agree with you DOESN'T make it true.

2+2=4 Yesterday, today and tomorrow

Jesus' Truth is more TRUE than 2+2=4
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/2/16


//Search the Crusades online and read a more accurate picture.//

I have. I hope you got the ACCURATE picture when you went online?

//Correct also RCC used to consider non Catholics as not Christians.//

NOOOOOOOO!

Please cite the CCC or Official Documents claiming what you said?
It isn't true.

RCC believes Protestants have 2 of the 7 Sacraments.

Baptism and Marriage.

Baptism is WHAT makes one a Christian. Mark 16:16

//But since John PaulII we are of lessor status but still Christians.---Samuelbb7

NO AGAIN. How dare you?

Only Protestants goes around claiming who is a Christian and who isn't.

If you tell a Catholic you are a Christian, he or she WOULDN'T doubt you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/31/16


Nicole, the word church has a completely different meaning today than it did in Jesus' time. To today so-called christians, the denominational christians, the word "church" means a building or a denomination just by the way they use the term.

The biblical meaning of the word "church" simply means "the body of christians."

In the beginning of revelation it mentions "churches." These are not "denominations," but simply a group of christians at a certain location for identity purposes. If I asked you to "go and meet a certain group of chrisitans (church." You would ask "where?" I would reply "at Ephesus" (the location of a group of christians).
---Steveng on 10/30/16


May I kindly say the churches of Rev. 2-3 are not the church of today, but assemblies (Ekklesia)in the Tribulation. It is the exactly same problem in Matt. 16:18-19.

Robert
---Robert_C._Voiles on 10/30/16


Denominational christians are not christians.

The members are taught under the denomination's rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. There is not any unity whatsoever among denominations - even within a denomination.

Governments are now dictating what the denominational churches preach in their sermons or do in their buildings. Denominational churches are being forced to be politically correct. They will compromise biblical doctrine to keep their non-profit status so to keep their worldly wealth.
---Steveng on 10/30/16




True Nicole the Muslims believe Christians means Catholics the Horrible Crusaders who murdered men, women and children. Some of which they ate.

They are taught this and there is some truth but they leave out a lot of their part of the history. Search the Crusades online and read a more accurate picture.

Correct also RCC used to consider non Catholics as not Christians. But since John PaulII we are of lessor status but still Christians.

I have to say also that many Protestants say RCC people are not Christians which is equally false.

GOD loves us all. Seek to follow Jesus Christ.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/30/16


//The very root of the word "denomination" means to "name". So RCC is a "name" and hence a denomination. Any questions?---Jerry6593

No questions, because many times I call your denomination a Church even though I KNOW they are NOT Churches.

Just being nice.

You have to have a Valid Priesthood to be considered a Church.

We just go along with your name you chose to call us.

We are known as the CHURCH!

Plain and Simple.

Most non Christians people in the world think you are speaking about Catholics whenever you speak about Christians.

Interchangeable names.

Your children call you daddy. But do you know that isn't your name, right?

Any questions?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/29/16


Nicole: "OKAY, but the RCC/Orthodox ARE NOT Denominational."

You do realize, don't you, that sentence is self-contradictory? The very root of the word "denomination" means to "name". So RCC is a "name" and hence a denomination. Any questions?



---Jerry6593 on 10/29/16


Samuel, please answer my question about the Ark in another blog?

Has there been new discoveries?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/28/16


Steven GOD knows.

Nicole

1John 5:2,3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

There are more.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/26/16




Do the people who know about christ and don't believe, but still do good will have eternal life?
---Steveng on 10/25/16


//A person who says they are a Christians and who is not loving. Is declared in the Bible to not be a Christ
1John 5:2,3//

Where does it state in the Bible those words that they are not Christians? The verse you cited doesn't say that.

I know of the Passage by Jesus stating how people will know they are his disciples if they do He commands. John 13:35

But this still doesn't make them a not Christian it just means they're an disobedient Christian.

As a child never loses his Sir name no matter what future actions he displays.

//Love GOD love thy neighbor. Christians will do this.---Samuelbb7on 10/25/16

An obedient Christian
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/25/16


A person who says they are a Christians and who is not loving. Is declared in the Bible to not be a Christians.
1John 5:2,3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Love GOD love thy neighbor. Christians will do this.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/25/16


a person being RELIGIOUS and being a CHRISTIAN

Sadly, I have found some RELIGIOUS people who are MORE kinder, gracious, giving and helpful than some CHRISTIANS.

I have seen some Christians who care more about being religious than following the Beatitudes in the Matthew 5.

The Pharisees and Sadducees were VERY religious.

But it DOESN'T MEAN they are NOT JEWISH!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/24/16


//Wikipedia list the RCC as a denominational church, for those who reference Wikipedia...---just_saying on 10/23/16

So does the History Channel.

You can find information about the RCC that isn't true in Protestant's websites, books, movies and documentaries.

I can enter information into Wikipedia if I prove a little knowledge of the subject.

The CCC and Vatican.VA are our Sources.

Why are you all so afraid to use these Sources?

Afraid you might come cross VERITAS?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/23/16


Msk, you are 100% correct. For years I've been telling people there is a big difference between a person being RELIGIOUS and being a CHRISTIAN.
---Rob on 10/23/16


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Wikipedia list the RCC as a denominational church, for those who reference Wikipedia...
---just_saying on 10/23/16


Religion is what man does for his god. Salvation iswhat God gives freely to His chosen people.

Being a born again Christian means having a relationship with Christ, The Savior, not having a religion.
---Msk on 10/23/16


//Denominational "churches" have no place in the soon to come Kingdom of God.//

OKAY, but the RCC/Orthodox ARE NOT Denominational.

Only Protestant Churches are considered to be a Denominational

//Denominational "churches" are a product of Satan.//

You said NOT me!


The RCC is the Biggest/Largest Origination providing for the Poor.

No other Religion, Country or Group COMES CLOSE in caring for the poor! Including the USA

Why don't you TRY to match us so EVERYONE is NOT in need?

//Would RCC sell all its possessions to feed the poor?---Steveng

We have

But, Jesus KEEPS blessing His Bride with more possessions

BTW, our BIGGEST POSSESSIONS are the POOR!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/23/16


Nicole_Lacey wrote: "Come home to the Catholic Church"

Denominational "churches" have no place in the soon to come Kingdom of God. Denominational "churches" are a product of Satan. Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divide christiandom up into over sixty thousand denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living, interpretations of the bible and wealth - and the Catholic Church having a whole lot more than seventeen trillion dollars. Would RCC sell all its possessions to feed the poor?

The "church" ARE the chrisitans not a denomination or a building.
---Steveng on 10/23/16


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Rob, you wrote this:

Nicole Lacey, I was born and raised in the United States and went to Medical School here with two degrees.--Rob on 10/20/16

You keep telling us about your college degrees, but you are VERY VAGUE.

Tell us, are you claiming to be a Medical Physician from a Medical School?

Not a PhD, but a MD?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/21/16


Come home to the Catholic Church
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/16/16


True Steveng. But many who claim to be Christians love themselves. Not others.

Agreed aservent.

I pray for my local church and world church. Only GOD can help.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 10/9/16


Aren't American Protestant churches really Laodicea?
- Most members are mere spectators.
- Sermons are watered down . . .
- Rock bands and chant songs are used . . .
- No real leadership for whole Bible study.

What should we do?


2Chr 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name,
shall humble themselves,
and pray,
and seek my face,
and turn from their wicked ways,

then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land
.

ONLY Spirit-filled Christians can get this fixed. ONLY we are His people. Rom 8:9
---aservant on 10/8/16


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YES, YES, YES! Absolutely.

And, sadly ironic, how, of all countries with Churches, America has the most Church buildings, the most Christian Book Stores, the most copies of Holy Bibles, and the most freedom (so far!) to access these things, and yet, she is the most anemic of all Churches across the Earth.

Full of sin, laziness and apathy towards GOD and HIS Kingdom Work on Earth.

I've been no super-Saint myself, by no means, I have faltered MANY TIMES, but, even I can see this tragedy!

We are past the Philadelphian Church Age, and have long-past entered into the Laodicean Church age.
---Gordon on 10/8/16


Christians ARE the church, not a building or denomination. Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divide christiandom up into over sixty thousand man-made, worldly denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Is Christ divided?

Christianity is a personal lifestyle having only one rule: to love (as in the verb form). The bible is full of examples and Jesus sets the ultimate example. Unfortunately, love is quickly evaporating from the earth. Love is an easy rule, but difficult to apply especially in today's world.
---Steveng on 10/7/16


Sad but true Michele.

I agree most who claim to be Christian. Don't live to honor GOD.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/7/16


Jesus said follow me. Jesus is the Word of God. No compromise. If you are alone as Elijah thought he was, then so be it.
---Kirk on 10/7/16


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A slice of Laodicea.

"God creates people, and gives them the ability to create more. So everything in creation is essentially unfinished, God leaves the world unfinished, and invites people to take part in the ongoing creation of the world. Now, when you create, you always run the risk that what youve created, wont turn out how you wanted it to, it may go a different direction, it may not be everything you intended it to be. It may veer off course, and it may break your heart"
---Michelle on 3/3/08


New Age re-emerges in the emergent church.

We participate with God in the creation of the world? This is New Age teaching. The idea that we are co-creators with God is a key tenant of New Age belief. "We are all co-creators with God. God needs us to carry his creation forward."
The new age movement believes that God is ultimately good, and has an unconditional love for humanity.
"Believe in whatever you like, simply add Jesus to it."
---Michelle on 3/3/08


Yor right there Jack..but heyyy friends...if you dont know what to do, Join us, we are a loving Bible based Adventist church who welcomes anyone who wishes to join us. Try it and be free of your confusions about biblical things you dont understand for we will explain with you right from the truth of God. C'mon try it. Go to one near you..
---jana on 4/26/07


It is very easy to point the finger at others' real or perceived faults and say, "Oh, look at them. They are a Laodicean church."

But when you point your index finger at someone, you have three pointing back at yourself!

Better to examine YOURSELF carefully and make sure YOU are not Laodicea.
---Jack on 4/24/07


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How can American churches be Laodicean? I think it is wrong to lump them all together, there are similar churchs to each of the Churches John's recored Revelation of Jesus mentioned. I've visted churches that resemble each of those churches. I think what we need to remember is that these cycles have revolved a few times in Church History (Hence the Reformation) Yes I do think that we are on the dawn of a new church age, where the cycle will revolve again. I don't think its the End but the end of this age.
---Jared on 11/2/06


I agree with this blog. We need to become more responisble for our own study of the word. American's rely to much on what man says. They don't dig into the Word and let the holy spirit teach them all truth.
---Marta on 11/2/06


If we are indeed in the Laodicean church age what is the responsibility of a Christian as regards that fact?
---mima on 10/24/06


I don't believe the message was meant to be so discriminating as to "American" vs world wide. I do believe we are in the Laodicean Church Age (i.e. the last/endtime age) but I believe it is throughout the world rather than a select area. I also believe it is NOT churches by name but people by attitude toward God and each other. Those who would rather "play" church will be in THAT number.
---mikefl on 10/21/06


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A cult is a church down the street from your church.
---Shiela on 10/21/06


#1 Yes we are in the Laodicea church age. What true belivers need to do is to seek discipleship and fellowship with others that hunger and thirst for righteousness and always seek God's will in our lives. Be obedient to the voice of the Good Shepherd and be submissive to the Holy Spirit. This will strengthen your testimony to the lost and you will be a good servant planting seeds so the master can reap where He has not sown.
---Ryan on 10/21/06


#2 Be a prepared virgin and keep your oil handy, produce good fruit and be pruned, share your talents. God bless you brother.
---Ryan on 10/21/06


It is Biblically wrong to make sermons to please people because they give contributions. The Church should be a place of worship by believers who have given their lives to God and are recognised as Children of God. Salvation though a gift should be that standard or yard stick to measure the position of all church attendants
---Ndim_Bernard on 10/21/06


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