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How Old Is The Earth

How old is the Earth? For a Christian, is such a question even important?

Moderator - Less than 10,000 years. Very important as either one believes the Bible or not.

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The earth is as the bible said created in 6 days. Adam was kept as GOD's first man created, however the bible tells you aon the 6th day GOD created both male and female. Eve was not created on day 6 however, so if female was created she was created away from Adam. GOD created humans outside the garden? Maybe these are the people Cain was afraid of? Anyway back on point, the earth was created in 6 days, could this be the first mystery of the bible? Think of this: Day 1= GOD created light and darkness and seperated them/ (first thousand years) sin enters man Jesus and Satan split the kingdom of heaven into 2 groups Day 2=GOD seperated water and made dry land appear/(second thousand years)Noah was born and the Earth flooded and land reappeared
---Michael_Lester on 12/2/10


Day 3= earth brings forth fruit after its kind/(third thousand years) Abraham is born and promised by GOD that he would be the seed of many nations Day 4= creation of the sun and the moon/(forth thousand years) Jesus is born and is the Light of the world. Day 5= GOD created the fish and the fowl of the earth/ (five thousand years)Christianity is born symbolized by a fish and a dove Day 6=GOD created the beast of the earth and man in HIS own image/ (Sixth thousand year) beast and man real the earth man begins to look at himself as "God-like" and begins to lift up animals and worship the earth. Day 7= God rests/ (seven thousandth year) Jesus reigns for a thousand year on earth in the millenial kingdom.
---Michael_Lester on 12/2/10


The Old Testament is correct but it has been interperted incorectly. Read the Septaugent and you will see that the creation of Adam was not the same as the 7 day creation event. That is why Adam was placed in a garden, to keep him away from the evil world.
---Dr.Rich on 4/14/08


2 Peter 3:8 - 1 day is as a 1000 years to the Lord and 1000 years as 1 day. What this is saying, don't try to figure God's ways out, for nothing is as it appears to be and you can't do it. As stated in Hebrews 11:3 things which are,weren't formed of things which do appear. It is impossible to decipher anything without a concrete reference to go by. Anything else is just guessing.
---Darlene_1 on 4/14/08


Great point, Jerry
Psalm 90:4:
"For a thousand years in your sight are LIKE a day that has just gone by, or LIKE a watch in the night"
A watch in the night? What about that? was Jesus in the garden of Gethsamene for 1000 years?

2 Peter 3:8:
"...With the Lord a day is LIKE a thousand years, and a thousand years are LIKE a day"
The last part reverses the statement. That is contradiction if this scripture refered to literal conversions.
Thanks Alan.
---Okebaram on 11/5/06




the earth is older than many think and younger than many think, I doubt anyone really knows and You can't prove it even with scripture, mainly because How long did it take for Adam and Eve to sin. (time as we know it didn't start till then and that's when the count started)
---Jared on 11/4/06


If you use the Bible and work your way backward, according to when people were born and when the had their children, it works out to roughly 7,000 years since Adam, the first six days are still gray , but I have to beleive that it is written DAY and that is what I have to beleive 24hrs, I am not real concerned though because I will know when I get to heaven. just make sure you are prepared for eternity, this place is getting weirder every day
Peace be with you
---Kent on 11/4/06


If the earth is about 6000 years old as the Bible seems to indicate, and if a day is as a thousand years, then it is time for the second coming of Jesus to take us to heaven for a thousand year Sabbath rest.
---jerry6593 on 11/4/06


Hey Alan - I never saw it quite that way, although maybe I did. It is SO true what you say. God is God Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth. He is so vast that we cannot imagine Him - we are so small in this immense Universe He has placed us in - and yet He bothers with every single tiny detail - every second - of our lives. Praise Him!!!
---laure5759 on 11/4/06


greetings.for karen.was it humor?have a humorus day.
---earl on 11/3/06




greetings.for karen .would you like to know heaven time?have a humorus day.
---earl on 11/3/06


Now Earl, where did you get that from? What have you been reading? I thought that was funny. the only reason I posted that is that everyone is trying to define time. Scripture is never exact to numbers, only when it is an explicit statement, 1 Day. One day means one day. If 10,000 people died, it could be 10,000 more or less.
---karen on 11/3/06


You all say that a thousand years of our time is a day of God's. But you take that from the first part of the passage. What about the second part, which must mean that one of our days is a thousand years to God.
All the whole passage means is that our time is ot the same as God's time ... He is outside our time.
He sees the whole of time, and yet devoted the whole of His time to each of our short lives.
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/3/06


greetings.for karen.one paradise day is just seven minutes three and one eighth seconds less than one thousand years of the present earth leap year. paradise is tremendous in size by comparrison of what a day here on earth is.
---earl on 11/3/06


Did anyone take into consideration since you are defining one day as 24 hours, that it does not have 24 hours exact, but 23 hours 56 min, and the reason why we have a leap year? Just a thought for all that define 24 hours a day and one day exact 1000 years. Bruce is correct in that 1000 years is explained in context to what it is refering to within the context alone. If God say's one day, why make a mountain out of a mole hill? Just my thoughts.
---karen on 11/2/06


The wisdom of the world is foolishness with God (1 Cor 3:19). 1 Cor 1:21 tells us that this wisdom leads men to NOT know God. Jesus presented the word as the authority, It is written... By faith in that word we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear (Hebrews 11:3). He spoke and it was done, He commanded and it stood fast (Psalm 33:9).
---Wayne87 on 11/2/06


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Hi earl, I did not say that the 7th day was 24 hours, the Bible reveals it, time and again. Each person is free to believe God's word for themselves. There are many mysteries in the world--the greatest is God's love in redeeming and saving all who will come unto Him. It is not for me to argue with anyone. Each of us individually must come to Him and ask the question as a little child, What must I do to be saved. Thanks for your input, though I see no scripture evidence for your position.
---Wayne87 on 11/2/06


okebaram, I do not believe my desires, but you do believe your desires. Inspite of any desires of mine, in truth I believe the words of Jesus.
---Eloy on 11/1/06


I'm not sure that I do beoieve what I desire. I would much rather believe that I am not a sinner, and that I can live tmy life for my own pleasure, without guidance from a judge.
What I beleive is uncomfortable.
the fact that one person's detail faith differs from another's does not damn them. None of us have perfect understanding, none of us, and it will not be until we see God in our new Life above that we will understand.
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/1/06


greetings.for wayne.you say the 7th. day is a 24 hr.peroid and also an unended day,the 7th.day of rest.did jesus say he will give a sign?how long has man lived up till today by the gregorian calendar? what do you do with the sciences of earth and man?do you recognize d.n.a. evidence or geologic evidence is mans history?traditional literalism is crippling spiritual progress by clouding the minds God's developing children.will literalist man turn loose all who have been convicted by dna?
---earl on 10/31/06


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#2As do many on these blogs about certain theology, including Alan, especially Eloy.As for me, though my knowledge wont be complete until God's kingdom, I desire to know whats true, & God proves Himself my Teacher. I'll believe what He teaches rather than whatever I desire. (Nothing any of you says will make any truth false, so you may accuse me all you want. If your accusations are true they will form constructive critism, otherwise you may keep on believing what you desire, though I wish otherwise)
---Okebaram on 10/31/06


#1"Okebaram, you will believe whatever you desire."-Eloy
"As do you, Eloy"-Alan.
---Okebaram on 10/31/06


While Jesus was here, He revealed how the Sabbath was to be kept physically--from even to even shall be your sabbath or rest (Leviticus 23:32). His life also revealed that the physical 24 hour day in which there was no manna given, on which the disciples rested "according to the commandment" was not all that was involved. It was a sign that we enter into His rest 24/7, ceasing from our own works--which are sin. In other words, the Sabbath was given that we might remember Him and sin not.
---Wayne87 on 10/31/06


As to the length of days 1-6, the Bible is very plain: and the evening and the morning were....He again showed their length when He gave the manna 6 days and none on the 7th before He gave Israel the law at Sinai. After Sinai He continued the cycle, and required special things on the 7th day in the Hebrew sanctuary--replace the shewbread, special offerings, etc. When He was here, He went to the place of meeting on the 7th day. All show the length of the day. All of His word is the truth.
---Wayne87 on 10/31/06


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alan, as do I what?
---Eloy on 10/30/06


As do you, Eloy
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/30/06


greetings.for wayne.thanks for your reply.on the matter of truth ,there can only be one truth'.i(truth) change not"."whom is no varialbleness,neither shadow of turning".in the genisis story,are you saying day 1 thru 6 is 24 hours each?how long is the 7th. day?thanks again for your reply.
---earl on 10/30/06


Okebaram, you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 10/30/06


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Thanks earl for yours. In Genesis God rested the 7th day because He had finished His creation of the heavens and the earth (Genesis 2:1-3). He shared the Sabbath with Israel at Sinai and said, for in six days I created the earth, and rested the 7th day. (Exodus 20). In Leviticus 23:3, He reminds them again that this is the Sabbath of the Lord.
---Wayne87 on 10/29/06


In Deuteronomy 5, Moses is not reading from the Tables of Stone, but rather rehearsing God's words to Israel in a message to the people, and shares the fact that in keeping the Sabbath and letting the servants rest, they would be reminded that they themselves had been servants in Egypt. In Ezekiel 20:12, He said He gave that they might know that He was the Lord that sanctified (set them apart). If God shares many reasons for sharing His day with us, I have no problemeach is perfect.
---Wayne87 on 10/29/06


As I said, I just used the 4th commandment to show that God revealed the length of the days of creation in more than one place. As our children grow we often give them different reasons for doing the same things, and each one would be perfectly adapted to that period of their lives. As to being perfectly the same in order to be perfect, we see that often when Jesus quoted words that were divinely inspired (thus perfect), He would use different words to say or convey the same truth.
---Wayne87 on 10/29/06


Not sure where I intimated that I believed in 1000 years equaling one day. The point to me is that the Bible is very plain on exactly the time period used to create. If it isnt plain to others, I will simply share Gods word, and let the Spirit lead others to the truth. He has promised to lead us into all truth if we are willing to be led.
---Wayne87 on 10/29/06


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Eloy, your slogan which you keep throwing out describes you far better than any other person I have ever come across on this blogs. YOU, Eloy, believe, or at least insist, on what you desire, many of which are FALSE doctrines. Romans 1:22 describes you, Eloy.
---Okebaram on 10/29/06


greetings.for wayne.believing that God is perfect,would he have a need to give another reason?with God involved in both then would both sets not be perfectly the same?does God always give a perfect reason the first time when he gives answers to his children?concerning literal intrepertation,how are you literally connecting 6 days to 6000 years?is the genisis of creation a literal 6 days of creation and not 6000 years?how is your 1000 years equal to 1 day connection made?how is it literally connected?
---earl on 10/29/06


earl, The truth of 1000 years on earth equalling 1 day to God in heaven was established when God created the earth, and proven when the first protoplast disobeyed the Creator incurring the death to him at 930 years of age, as in Genesis 5:5. I have no qualms with science that agrees with God's truth, but I have the true standard refuting every falsehood of inaccurate science. I avoid profane empty talk and contradictions by science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith.
---Eloy on 10/28/06


earl, you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 10/28/06


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Earl, if you will look at the two lists--Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5, you will see that God gives them because He is God, that brought them out of the house of bondage--Exodus 20:2 and Deut. 5:6. Both are true, given by God and not contradictory. Likewise the other commands given about the commandments in the Bible.
My point was not about whether we had to keep the 7th day now, but to show that God Himself had revealed the length of the creation days in more than one place in scripture.
---Wayne87 on 10/28/06


Earl ... I have asked you, and so has Bruce.
Please, please, use punctuation and Upper Case letters to start sentences. Then we might understand what you are saying.
otherwise you will be misunderstood or ignored.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/28/06


Steveng, The original scriptures copied around 915 A.D. in Tiberias were kept in Aleppo Syria in the Cave of Elijah under their synagogue. After the Jewish holocaust, the Arab's rioted against the Jews and burned their synagogue. Rabbi Mordechai Breuer reconstructed the missing parts of the recovered manuscript by using the 11th century Leningrad Codex which was handwritten in Cairo Egypt in 1009 A.D. Therefore all parts of the Aleppo Codex are copied from the original Hebrew Scriptures, and trustworthy.
---Eloy on 10/28/06


greetings,for eloy,how is it that you are using the 1000 to 1 revolutions to say the (day) in genisis is the same as the words of peter?peter is referencing how big God's home is.how are you connecting the two when no one knew the earth's revolutions until recently?the egyptian calendar that came before the gregorian is post adam by a long span of time.reliability of either was questionable until science wae accepted.did you say literalism without science your road of travel?
---earl on 10/28/06


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greetings,for eloy ,you say in a post below that the word 'moved' is not an accurate translation.by whos authority classifies it as inaccurate?man never stopped rewriting scrolls up untill the press and now the bible is changed daily and God has not stopped those who do so.on the contrary it appears that you have placed your acceptance of truth also in rewritten material.knowing the future,even jesus did not pen his days on earth,man did.do you believe your material only is heaven sent?
---earl on 10/28/06


If God gave manna six days streight and none on the seventh, would all those people have died if the day is 1000 years? Poor guys and families. Starved do death.
---Lydia on 10/28/06


greetings,for wayne if you will parallel the two sets of the ten commandments you will find that the reasons for the sabbath have changed.which one is the truth?
---earl on 10/28/06


If we take the Bible record, then it is about 6000 years old since Adam was created--tracing through the evidence as presented in the Word. Moses specifically says, evening and morning were each of the six days of creation. God gave manna six days, then none on the 7th in a repeating cycle (Exodus 16). Then when He gave the law, He says that the Sabbath is given to man because He created the earth in six days. Taking the bible, I find nothing that would indicate otherwise.
---Wayne87 on 10/27/06


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As to the 1000 to 1, we could as easily argue that 1 is 1000---simply God saying time is not a factor limiting His power. Just as when He replied to Peter about what would John do (John 21:21-23), He was not saying John wouldn't die, but that He had power and it didn't affect what Peter should do--follow Him. Likewise we are invited to believe His prophets and prosper. The choice is ours--His word, or the foolishness of human wisdom.
---Wayne87 on 10/27/06


Eloy: the Aleppo Codex was a complete hebrew bible that was written sometime in the 9th century AD, after Christ. But the many parts of it were from original manuscripts written five thousand years before that.
---Steveng on 10/27/06


Mikem, the Hebrew word in Psalm 93:1 and Psalm 104:5 is "mowt" which literally means "shaken" in English; therefore the English word "moved" is not an accurate translation. For we know that the heavens and the earth will be removed, and a new heaven and a new earth will take it's place, for the Lord himself is already building the mansions and the New Jerusalem, and he is almost finished.
---Eloy on 10/27/06


God means what he says, and he will give the AntiChrist and Satan only 5 minutes to try the world to see if he can turn every person and all flesh against the Lord, which is about 3 and 1/2 years on earth.
---Eloy on 10/27/06


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God means what he says, and he will give the AntiChrist and Satan only 5 minutes to try the world to see if he can turn every person and all flesh against the Lord, which is about 3 and 1/2 years on earth.
---Eloy on 10/27/06


earl, God means exactly what he says, and the 1000 to 1 ratio has everything to do with the Genesis of man. The study of the stars is not evil, it's only when people attach intelligence and wisdom to the stars as though they can predict the future and such things is when it becomes evil. We are to seek God alone for personal guidance and answers, and not the created stars nor occultic practices.
---Eloy on 10/27/06


Earl

Please do not misunderstand what I am about to say. I am trying to help.

You really need to use punctuation. Even if you don't use capitols at the beginning of sentences, at least use a period (.) at the end of each sentence. Often it is very difficult to understand just what you are saying because all your thoughts run together.

In this case, I have no idea what you are trying to tell me.
---Bruce5656 on 10/27/06


MikeM, to say that the earth is about 6000 years is true knowledge; to say it is billions of years old is ignorant. The problem is that the things of God, the truth of the matter, seems like foolishness to the eyes of the carnal.

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned."--1 Cor 2:14
---Okebaram on 10/27/06


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#2You only give one remote example of "christians" hating on education. If thats reason to generalize that Chritianity used to call education evil, then I can prove almost any theory. Such generalization is ignorant.
#3 Natural selection is not, and cannot account for evolution across different species. You try to take the term evolution out of the layman's context like you don't know what I am talking about. Evolution theories of how living things evolved are false.
---Okebaram on 10/27/06


#4The scriptures you quote are literally true: The earth's foundation is its orbit. Has the earth significantly moved away from its orbit? Only in evolution theories! Though some dialogue in the bible is poetic/figurative, Every historical story is literal, unless shown to be a parable told by someone else. Some truth initially appears logically ridiculous, so people take them for ignorance. Even now, I know you still think Im ignorant. Im sure you dont believe in the virgin birth of Jesus, am I right?
---Okebaram on 10/27/06


Right on the money with the assment of Adam and Death...
Good job
---Bob on 10/27/06


greetings,for bruce,it is very clear and not meaningless when it is written"a day is as a thousand years with God..."man wants to know how big heaven is compared to his home.man looks foward to seeing his new home as he thinks it is through his spiritual understanding.peter gave that information but it takes science to develop and from developing science we now know.it takes 1000 years of earth axial rotation to compare to 1 revolution(day) at God's house.its size is beyond comparrison.
---earl on 10/27/06


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PART ONE:
Adam did die in the 24 hour day that he sinned. He died the death that matters. Spiritual death. Seperation from God. Loss of fellowship with his Creator. Jesus acknowlged this type of being "dead" with statements like "let the dead bury the dead." Matt 8:22
---Bruce5656 on 10/27/06


PART TWO:
Paul speaks of it:
you hath he quickened [made alive], who were dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1). Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ (Ephesians 2:5). And you, being dead in your sins . . . hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses (Colossians 2:13)
---Bruce5656 on 10/27/06


PART THREE:
A simple reading of II Peter 3 will show clearly that the day vs 1000 years is simply a simily used to make the point that time is meaningless to God. What He has said he will do be it today or 1000 (earth) years from now. II Peter 3:9, "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise..."
---Bruce5656 on 10/27/06


Psalms 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved"

Psalms 93:1 "the world also is established, that it cannot be moved."

To believe the bibly literally, does one take these verses with the same degree of literalness as those in Genesis?
---MikeM on 10/27/06


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greetings,for eloy,the verse"a day is as a thousand years with God"has no reflection on the genesis of man.considering earth rotation;it requires 1 revolution to obtain 24 hrs.earth requires 1000 yrs.of revolutions to make 1 day at God's house.earth will require 1000 yrs. to complete 1 day there.this verse specifically describes how small man's home is and how gigantic paradise is by observing through simple science our planetary revolutions.do you believe astronomy is an evil astrology?
---earl on 10/27/06


Lisa ... I had understood!
I don't think it important whether one agrees with the exactly 168 hour thing or not.
The story is TRUE that God made it all (and us)... that is what matters.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/27/06


Alan, my last sentence should read, "The kingdom of heaven is..." if the subject talked about was actually. Sorry I put the "like" on the last one too. You are right, and in Scripture numbers are not always exact. The author many times does not give a specific number. When ten thousand died, it could be more or less. Not an exact number. Thou I believe it is in the 7 actual days because Scripture does mention days in order. I am with Rev-Herb on his answer.
---lisa on 10/27/06


2. The minute one begans to change or to believe there is an error and in our minds we cannot understand how it could be as the Bible says, we began to question other things and soon we are changing it all over the place. It does not divide Christians to disagree, but a good topic to talk about.
---lisa on 10/27/06


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Steveng, Actually I use the Aleppo Codex, the oldest known complete manuscript of the Hebrew Bible, the most authoritative and most accurate sacred source document for the biblical text. It has greater spiritual importance than any other manuscript of the Old Testament. The actual Hebrew word in Psalm 90:4 is "kywm", which is numbered by strongs as 3588, and the Greek equivalent verse in II Peter 3:8 is "os" which is numbered in strongs as 3739; both rightly mean, "that".
---Eloy on 10/26/06


Steveng, I bought my own Jerusalem Crown Bible, but you can view the Aleppo Codex for yourself at different places online like aleppocodex dot org, which also provides a free magnifying glass to use.
---Eloy on 10/26/06


OKi;There was never a thing like the "medieval Christianity" -? Basic history 101, when the church was in charge, it was known as, "the dark ages." Read the book, "In the name of the Rose" or see the movie. I have a neice-19 in college who is losing family due mostly to attending college. The fact is natural selection (evolution)is confirmed by several of the hard sciences, and, to be blunt, to say the earth is 6,000 years old is pure ignorance.
---MikeM on 10/27/06


Oki: "Teen minds are ruined by evolution theories" First there are evolutionary theories then there is evolutionary law. If you deny evolution then you CANNOT be on a jury where DNA evidence is presented, the same technology is applied. By ruin I guess you mean to secularize. Early man fossils are dug up with devices like shovels, no rhetorical device will make them disappear. Evolution is not an argument for atheism, If an atheist, I would use history, not science as an argument for atheism.
---MikeM on 10/27/06


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earl, dna is inaccurate, and also every thing which is contrary to Truth is inaccurate. When God says, I shaped the first man in 4194 B.C. from the soil of the ground, and breathed into his face the breath of life, so man was made a living soul. Then conceited man rises up and says, there is no God, the earth is billions of years old, and we have descended from apes; professing themselves to be wise, they have become fools.
---Eloy on 10/26/06


Alan, Scripture records that God created the light, and divided between the light and between the darkness, and the evening was, and the morning was made the first day. Days and nights were created for man, not for God. To God time is one long continuum, eternal, but he divided time up into segments of nights and days and seasons for man's benefit.
---Eloy on 10/26/06


Eloy: you are using modern Hebrew not the Old Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew which which was used from 1000 to 600 BC. The Aramic language, or the Jews language, was used from the 6th century to about 1100 (I think). Modern Hebrew is no where close to the older versions.
---Steveng on 10/26/06


MikeM, what on earth are you talking about? Most Christians as well as non-Christians encourage education, and Christianity encourages education. Teen minds? Teen minds are ruined by evolution theories. Yet that does not make education bad, it only makes some part of it wrong. There was never a thing like the "medieval Christianity" you explained. The early church did not call education witchcraft! If you rely so much on science, you must have insignificant faith in God. There should be balance!
---Okebaram on 10/26/06


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What a great answer Alan. The literary device used in that passage is what is called a "simile. A simile is simply an expressed comparison: it typically uses the words "like" or "as" ("The kingdom of heaven is like...). The emphasis is on some point of similarity between which it is being compared are kept separated. Does not mean actually. It would say, "The kingdom of heaven is like..) if it was the same meaning.
---lisa on 10/26/06


Herb;You profess to believe the KJV bible,tell me the meaning of Gen 2.4!
---1st_cliff on 10/26/06


greetings,"a day is as a thousand years (with God)...".man is not the time keeper,God is.if we were (with God)at his home,looking out, by comparrison,the earth is spinning exceedingly fast.
---earl on 10/26/06


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