What should my husband and I do we want to do things the way God expects us too. We are raising our children in a Christian home and allowing the Grandparent to visit with them in our home only, because the gp has caused many probs in our lives prior to and now durig our marriage. The gp is married to a child molester and suffers from mental illness's and is suing us the parents for Grandparent visitation even though the gp is already recieving visits we are having to pay out hundreds and soon probably thousands to protect our children from the abuse that one of us suffered as a child. We don't want to fight this in court but we are left with no choice either allow our chilren to go to a harmful place with harmful people or to fight in court. |
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---Happy on 11/20/09 |
Sometimes you have to use common sense.The bible was written 2000 years ago and the world is much more complicated than at the time.If your health or family is suffering because of an injury or financial damage caused by a wrongdoer you have to protect yourself.When you win the money you could perhaps use part of it to help the poor or someone in need.You must take care of your own financial and health needs before worrying about ancient laws that we really can never be sure about.Go ahead and sue or you will be left broke and injured.The insurance companies are not practicing biblical principles they are in business to make Money and keep you from getting any of it.This is the way the world works and either understand that or you lose out. |
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---john on 10/17/09 |
What about suing a drug company that gave you a medication that was found out later to be life threatening and has had lasting effects on your health? |
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---Beverly on 1/29/09 |
JESUS said "Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.+++WARNING NOTICE!+++ the brother MUST repent!+++ YOU do not just forgive people that have NOT repented! THAT is equal to sweeping their sins under the rug!+++YOU become an accessory to the SIN!+++ GOD does Not forgive us TILL we REPENT! How can WE then usurp God and FORGIVE sin when REPENTANCE has not occured! Disobeying Jesus in this way has caused the church body much harm! WHY? You tell me! Something to think about! |
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---Anthony on 1/6/09 |
PART THREE___
In a real christian only trial all witnesses should come forward and give honest testimony and not take sides.
"Justice is destroyed" if there is false testimony or if witnesses fail to testify!
Moses setup this type of process and then in the New Testament it is taught again to help keep believers from going to the world.
Real christians looking for truth should all help and participate.
You may have Multiple judges or a non bias jury!___ Judges must be well versed in scripture!____All decesions should be adhered to and agreed to be follow by all parties once a decesion is reached!!!!
SEE Part # FOUR |
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---Anthony on 1/6/09 |
PART # FOUR____ Who Should Face a Trial?ANYONE that declares to follow Jesus and the New Testament. Including pastors, elders, deacons and leaders! Any memeber can request a Christian trial. Other authentic and genuine believers must judge the matter accurately and discretly!
Non bias Elders should facilitate that honest men or women of "low estemm" are selected to judge but not interfer after appointments are chosen! Once you are a "equipped saint" with scriptural wisdom, then you are able to take the teachings to all the world and preach them and demonstrate them to all people! If you have not been taught this then you have a bad or neglectful teacher or one that does not understand the scriptures. GO Be a Christian! |
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---Anthony on 1/6/09 |
PART ONE !
When another christian wrongs you Jesus required you in matt 18 a 3 step process.
1. talk to the person, in private, 2 take another christain friend and resolve the matter, 3 if they refuse to repent and reconcile then YOU are required as a christian "to tell it to the church".
You do this to warn people of bogus believers, false believers, and make believers that refuse to follow what Jesus said.
You are not required to tell a pastor or elder.
Those that refuse to follow scriptures wisdom are then not Authentic believers and should be treated as a heathen and then sued for damages.
SEE PART TWO ! |
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---Mardi_Gras on 1/6/09 |
Part TWO___ In Corinthians when disputes happen among believers then the "church members" can hold their OWN trial and they are to use ordinary low esteemed believers that have no bias or partiality for either party to act as "judges over any matter". You must in a civil manner present your cause and cross examine any person and sepina your own witnesses.____ READ CORINTHIANS CLOSELY!____ PLEASE USE ONLY men or women of low esteem from among you. IF WE ARE GOING TO JUDGE ANGELS! Wow!
We need to know NOW how to do this!
But Even Pastors Never teach on this properly!___ See PART #3. |
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---Anthony on 1/6/09 |
I was looking up whether suing is wrong and I found this blog. I am studying the bible to be baptized and am also in the process of suing an insurance company. I got my lawyer about a year ago and they are near the last stages of settling my case. I already had back problems b4 the car accident and my reason for suing was that it potentially aggravated my back and I went to massage therapy for a year or so before I filed the case. If anyone reads this please look at both sides. Im not sure exactly what to do. I spoke to my grand mother about it and she said that it is not wrong because the car accident could have made my back worse and backs are easily affected. any advice? |
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---Jean_Miller on 9/23/08 |
Mic -- The Bible cautions about Christians suing other Christians.
Cr 6:5 I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?
1Cr 6:6 But instead, one brother goes to law against another and this in front of unbelievers!
There is nothing I can find addressing suits brought against unbelievers. The purpose of the legal system is to bring about justice. |
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---Donna66 on 8/5/08 |
How would your action of suing look in the Book of Life?
Would suing another person be an obstacle for that other person to become Christian? If you didn't sue and God knew you were innocent, is your faith strong enough for Him help you with your loss of income and medical bills? |
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---Steveng on 8/5/08 |
Yes sure you can. we live here and must do such things as part and parcel of every day life. Just think if you did not sue how many wicked people could say "I m a christian" and hope to get away with their wickedness. |
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---Alan on 8/5/08 |
I was injured in a car accident that was the other person's fault. His insurance is refusing to pay my medical bills. I believe the Bible clearly tells us not to sue another Christian in I Cor 6:1-6. However, I'm a little confused about whether it clearly tells us not to sue a non-Christian. I would like to recover my medical bills but I do not want to disobey God. Any answers out there for a non-Christian company that is not fulfilling their obligation? I will never be 100% whole again and may be disabled completely in the next few years. |
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---Mic on 8/4/08 |
I note that the blog question is "Can Christians sue others", not "Can Christians sue other Christians".
There is no biblican prohibition against using the law against others (in fact, Paul insisted on his rights as a Roman citizen). |
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---StrongAxe on 1/21/08 |
We shouldn't forget the Holy Spirit impressing on us what to do. Lawsuits are not Spiritual. If some one steals from you and they have no care for you they are an enemy. I'll pray for them but i'll also get back what God gave me.
If Jesus as a Shepherd acted in a passive form then wolves would destroy the whole flock. Crushing the serpent's head is violent, but it's also a Spiritual matter and we can't use the Bible as law anymore. Trust the Holy Spirit inside us. |
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---Dustin on 1/21/08 |
What does the bible say about "suing your brother"? |
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---linda on 8/10/07 |
Read Romans. |
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---Junia on 4/18/07 |
No, Christians are not to sue each other. If another Christian does us wrong, we are to accept the wrong and not go to court in front of unbelievers. 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 sets it all out. |
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---Helen_5378 on 4/7/07 |
You can ... but that is entirely besides the point isn't it?
As christians we are to forgive others.. not just each other mind you.. but everyone. Jesus showed this example.. let's just say a lot. But the ultimate... Luke 23:32 "Father, forgive them, for they do know not what they are doing" while they crucified him. He forgave them all for torturing and killing him! Now... bring it back to perspective.. Can you be more like Jesus and forgive rather than .. get revenge? |
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---Craig on 4/6/07 |
Sorry.. but I hear another verse calling.
Exodus 21:24 read all around there.. it's chock full of good stuff.
But wait! Let's hear what Jesus said about that in Matthew 5:38 and on.
Seems he thinks otherwise. So.. can we sue each other? Sure. Should we sue each other? No. Should we sue anyone? No!
The nature of our existence, our eternal lives depend on forgiveness! I think it's fair for Jesus to ask us to treat each other in the same manner. |
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---Craig on 4/6/07 |
No, because we should forgive money matters and let God judge between the 2 saints. Not the world. |
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---Ginger on 4/4/07 |
what does the Bible say?
thats what we are to go by
my KJV says not to take your fellow christian to court...especially when you KNOW they are christians... |
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---n/a on 11/25/06 |
While I won't sue another Christian, I will make use of the freedoms and privileges I have as a citizen. I will vote my conscience. I will write to congressmen and newspapers expressing an opinion. And I will sue any non-Christian or secular entity, if other means fail, to recover what is owed me. Paul insisted on his rights as a Roman citizen, when He was threatened. |
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---Donna2277 on 11/1/06 |
What would Jesus do? What did he do when he stood before his accusers? He was quiet! He didn't retaliate. He didn't even defend himself. It takes real strength to do that. Only a real man can take abuse and slander like that, and not say anything. Just be strong in the Lord and remain silent. Do what Jesus did. |
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---Marietta on 11/1/06 |
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Yes, when needed Christians use the legal system. |
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---Eloy on 11/1/06 |
An insurance claim doesn't compare to a lawsuit. The insured has paid premiums in advance to cover his lability.
I will not take a Christian to court. I lost thousands of dollars to a Christian "friend" in business. My brother, a non-Christian, lost more. He took her to court, recovered his money and had her business license revoked. I forgave her debt (he thought I was crazy)...The monetary loss was hard, but the loss of what I thought was a "friendship" broke my heart. |
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---Donna2277 on 10/31/06 |
Christians should not sue one another. 1 Corinthians 6:1-8 "...Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated?" |
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---Helen_5378 on 10/31/06 |
I Cor. 6:1 Dare any of you having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust and not before the saints?...vs 5.I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethern?. But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before unbelievers.
7.Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law with one another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not suffer yourselves to be defrauded? |
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---Donna2277 on 10/31/06 |
I think that sueing does not always mean you seek punishment. For example you can be an a car accident and both drivers be Christian but the insurance company not live by those principles so you end up sueing each other.
On the other hand if your neighbors tree limbs encroach on your property you should probably fix that without a law suit. |
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---grace3868 on 10/31/06 |
We met a couple who have purchased a property and are rehabbing it to build a ministry facility. They have opened a business and have another one ready to open to fund this ministry. They wanted me to run one of these businesses. We checked the local court records for any information on them. They had over a dozen lawsuits on record. Needless to say, we aren't going to be associated with them. You will know them by their fruits. Christians should not be involved in lawsuits. |
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---Susie on 10/31/06 |
It depends on the situation. |
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---Rebecca_D on 10/31/06 |
I agree with emg and Ralph. What did you have in mind? Sue for what? Because my Christian friend rented a house from a Christian woman and my friend skipped out and didn't pay the last 2 months rent. Should her landlord sue her? Then my next door neighbor was drunk one night and threatened (I heard the whole thing) a young girl and said, "I'll take care of you" and then smashed a pumpkin up against her front door. Should the young girl press charges? |
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---Donna9759 on 10/31/06 |
It is not a good idea to take another Christian to court. The bible tells us how to handle disputes in the way that is pleasing to God. I'm sorry I cannot find the verses right now but will come back if I find them, but I'm sure someone else will know the verses to which I refer. |
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---emg on 10/31/06 |
Paul writes in First Corinthians about this issue. Christians are to settle things among themselves...not a judge or jury. That is the way it shoud be. However, sadly, there are times, lawsuits do need to be done. Do I like it, NO! But, yes, in certain cases, Christians do need to sue. Lawsuits are last resorts, only last resorts. |
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---Ralph on 10/31/06 |
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