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Is The Bible The Only Truth

Does it say anywhere in our Bible that the Bible is the only book with the truth regarding how to be Christian and love God? Can there be other things that we should be looking at PLUS the Bible to see what the truth is?

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lorra,
Take away church and bible...Is not God able?..I would say YES...
I hope your day is going well, as I like to see your blogs.
---duane on 6/16/07


In the world of religion, there is a mixture of truth and error. The Bible is the final determinant of which is which. Lies come in all flavors, but there is only one truth.
---Jerry on 6/16/07


Duane, the only problem with that is that if you remove the Church and the Bible, most folks couldn't tell the Holy Spirit from too much gas.

If you do not have a well formed conscience, then you can pursuade yourself of any "truth" believe the Holy Spirit approves.

1 Cor 10:12 "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
---lorra8574 on 6/15/07


You can only find truth through the Holy Spirit. He is our only teacher.
---duane on 6/15/07


The Bible Truth: The Bible is the Word of God..satan dont have any book and following as Jesus has..The Bible which is the Word of God is all about Jesus and how we need to be transformed like Him...What other truth is there I may ask...Nothing..absolutely nothing..God is the Truth and Truth alone...Amen
---jana on 6/15/07




The Pillar and Foundation of Truth is the Church not the Bible; however, the Bible is the only book that is inspired of God. I would strongly recommend that you start there first before you seek other material.
---lorra8574 on 6/14/07


David>>>They were Holy men of God who were employed about that book which we receive as the word of God. All the penman of the scriptures were holy men of God. These Holy men were moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is the supreme agent, the Holy men are but instruments. The Holy Ghost inspired and dictated to them what they were to deliver of the mind of God.He effectually engaged them to speak [and write] what He had put into their mouths. [2 PET.1: 1-20].
---catherine on 6/14/07


David-There is this guy who claims that he is a Christian but that the Bible is not the truth. He said that Jesus Christ is the truth, basing it on Jesus' statement in the Gospels.


Ask him again, How do you know Jesus is the truth? He should answer you with the bible, if he says the bible is not the truth, then he is contradiction himself..
---Ruben on 6/14/07


There is this guy who claims that he is a Christian but that the Bible is not the truth. He said that Jesus Christ is the truth, basing it on Jesus' statement in the Gospels. He also said that the Bible never claims itself to be the truth, but only to be inspired by God and useful. He's challenging people to show him a single verse in the Bible in which the Bible claims that it is the truth. So far I haven't been able to find one. Can anyone help me refute this guy?
---David on 6/14/07


There is this guy who claims that he is a Christian but that the Bible is not the truth, but rather an aid useful to lead us to the truth. He also said that the Bible never claims itself to be the truth, but only to be inspired by God and useful for edification. He said that Jesus Christ is the truth. He's challenging people to show him a verse in the Bible in which the Bible claims that it is the truth. So far I haven't been able to find one. Can anyone help me refute this guy?
---David on 6/14/07




The answer to both your questions is YES.

Read and study the Bible from beginning to end. It reveals the relations between God and man. It's God's resume.

During the reading, you will disire to develop a relationship with God. Get on your knees and pray that He will allow you to become part of His family. Seek out other Christians to help you in your walk.
---Steveng on 11/30/06


Like it's been said a dozen time before, Jesus says that He is the life, the truth and the way. No one can get to God any other way but through Him.

A true Christian is a relation with God. No other religion can tell you otherwise. Secular religions put the person on the pedestal, but Christianity puts God on the pedestal. We must deny ourselves on a daily basis. Just develop a strong relationship with God and you can't go wrong. Get to know Him like you do a friend.
---Steveng on 11/30/06


The scripture does say how to love God, in Deut. 6:5 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. A Christian is anyone who believes in & has accepted Christ Jesus as their Lord & Saviour and repented for their sins. The Bible was written by people that were divinely inspired by God. So seek things that are divinely inspired. Look to the Holy Spirit to reveal the divine word of God to you in all things.
---ShawnM.T. on 11/30/06


Ruben, Sorry, I'm not sure what you are saying or asking.
---kathr4453 on 11/28/06


Kathr-(It's through God's Word ONLY that we find TRUTH. Anything else is man's interpretation and there is no life in that) But are you not going by your own interpretation? Remember, Jesus said" He who listen to you listens to me."
---Ruben on 11/28/06


Jesus said: I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE. My words are spirit and they are life.
It's through God's Word ONLY that we find TRUTH. Anything else is man's interpretation and there is no life in that.
You don't need to look anywhere else. It's all there.
---kathr4453 on 11/17/06


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Earl - I still do not know which OT verse you refer to. Please clarify.

I believe that all revelation by the Holy Spirit has come to an end - and now He writes His Word (the Bible) in our hearts, so that we can obey it each day.
---laure5759 on 11/16/06


greetings.for laure.On completeness;The verse in the o.t. I spoke of earlier says the same thing(do not add, for it is complete). The one who wrote that message clearly indicated there is nothing more to bring completeness,as you have said.It happens that revelation was not finished and Jesus gave one of his own about his Father.Again the same statement appears several books later.This revelational book stacking will never end.ie.Monoethism is no longer truth.Trinity is Truth.This is only the beginnings
---earl on 11/14/06


earl - you are saying that the OT and the NT are distinct from one another, but yet they are ONE. They are not TWO! The NT fulfills the OT - and nothing more is needed to bring completeness. If you do not understand this, I suggest you go and study your Bible some more.
---laure5759 on 11/14/06


Rachel -

Yes, truth can be found in many books. However, only the Bible IS the truth.
---laure5759 on 11/13/06


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Greetings.for laure.To find truth in any source,one must know what manner of spirit God and Jesus is.This 'manner of spirit' is the check mark of approval in all we search to find truth.We do not find new truth when we know not what manner of spirit jesus is of. Truth is progressive.It is said do not add or take away from this book.the o.t.said the same words but as you can tell there was a whole new revelation to mankind from Jesus .And will there not be another and another and another.
---earl on 11/14/06


Truth can be found in Many Books...not just the Bible.

...rachel...
---Reiter on 11/13/06


Earl -

I do not make any claims. I am simply telling you what God Himself has said.

I do not see where your other question is in any way relevant.
---laure5759 on 11/12/06


greetings.for Laure .do you then have an explanation for the statement "Ye do not know what manner of spirit ye are of"in relation to vengence you claim that is part of God and Jesus' personality.
---earl on 11/11/06


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Earl - I think that you have misunderstood God - and the Bible - at some point. God is a God of love, yes, but He is also a God of JUSTICE. This means that those who are in Him will be protected IN Hime, but those who are against Him, AND His children (those in Him) WILL pay for what they have done to Him and His children. God WILL avenge the wrongs done to Him.
---laure5759 on 11/11/06


Earl - part two

It is because God is love that He does not WANT to avenge us, but because He is HOLY and JUST, He cannot countenance sin, and where it has happened, the PRICE WILL BE PAID! And the wages of sin is death. Only God will make every person pay for their sins - IF THEY ARE NOT IN HIM.
---laure5759 on 11/11/06


greetings.to add.remember when the apostles asked Jesus to rain fire and brimstone upon a community when the gospel was spoken to them ?Did Jesus say "ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of".Is his statement to them saying that his Father's nature is misunderstood and no vengence will be sent upon them?
---earl on 11/11/06


greetings.for Laure.The pure in heart will see God.Vengence is not the nature or the love that our Father posesses.Likewise if we found our own human father to be vengeful then would he not be an unloving father?With God vengence and love do not mix.Is this not mixing good with evil?God does not do pay backs on his children who he wants them to be with him.Does your human father?We as mere mortals,are dealt lawfull justice when we cast our vengence upon another,not vengence.Jesus taught us not to be evil.
---earl on 11/10/06


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Earl - why then does this statement made by God still apply (in Paul's mind, and therefore the whole church's)AFTER Jesus death and resurrection: 'Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord.' (Romans 12:19)

To me, this still says that God, while merciful, is a jealous God. He does not change, EVER!
---laure5759 on 11/8/06


greetings.for Laure.p1.The o.t. said the same thing .I pointed that out to you earlier.Generation after generation the Spirit of God has revealed to man himself.The continuous line of leaders and prophets have revealed greater truth of God to man through the ages.ex.God is merci-full ,not venge-full.ex.Monoethism to the Trinity.Developing clarity and spiritual insight is progressive.The past represents the future.
---earl on 11/8/06


sister Jeane, I agree with you 100%. The Bible should be interpreted according to the rules that govern the interpretation of any book. The Bible itself is it's own Supreme Court. "Sacred Scripture is its own interpreter." This principle means that the Bible is to be interpreted by the Bible. What is obscure in one part of Scripture may be made clear in another. This is what is called "literal interpretation" not that every passage has a literal meaning,
---lisa on 11/8/06


2. but that we are to interpret the Bible as it is written. Nouns as nouns, verbs as verbs. It means that all forms that are used in the writing of the Bible are to be interpret accordingly to the rules governing those forms. The truth written on other books, is the truth of those books, but the Truth of Scripture is the Truth of God. God spoke to us, and we should not interpret the Bible to our own desires and prejudices.
---lisa on 11/8/06


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greetings.for Laure.p2.should there be a need to pray for greater truth to come if one recons that this is all there is?Will there be a need to lean on the spirit of truth for increase in the fullness of God when one reads'do not add'in the o.t.and revelation occured,was added to,the same similiar verse appears again and was bound in the same book ages apart from each other?Again,a recent example of revelation is the Trinity.Many remain stuck in the books of moses and
---earl on 11/8/06


greetings.for Laure.p3.many remain stuck in the o.t.,ignoring jesus.Many will remain stuck in the n.t.as well.Sucessive generations of men and women have for century after century increased the true Light's candle power, burning brighter and brighter.this very subject(continual revelation) seperates the dead(the left behind) from the living.The non progressive religions(those that are not added to) are to suffer eventual extinction by their lack of truth inreasing in the minds of the Father's children.
---earl on 11/8/06


Earl - that is an extremely neutral statement considering what I asked you! Just what do you mean by 'revelation'? That is what I am wanting to know. Oh, and just by the way, what if the book 'Revelations' is the final revelation, and God says to NOT ADD ANY WORDS TO THIS BOOK? Hmmm? Are you going to add to them? Because if so, I would pity you.
---laure5759 on 11/8/06


greetings.our Father never ceases to revelate for our Father is an endless revelation.
---earl on 11/7/06


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Earl - It depends. If you mean that there is hidden information that can come to light at a later date, then I am going to totally disagree. If you mean that sometimes we understand something better than people in the past did because of our access to information about the past, then I'll agree.
---laure5759 on 11/7/06


Greetings.For Laure.is there something i can explain concerning my previous post to you on 'age after age revelations'?
---earl on 11/6/06


The Bible is the whole source of truth. There are many other good books out there "with" truth. But the Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit from cover to cover. If I read Shakespeare I see the truth he wanted me to see thru his pen, his eyes, if I read "about" Shakespeare I see the truth others want me to see about him. Which is good but not the same.
---Jeanne on 11/6/06


Daniel, thanks for the heads up. Those are arrows pointing up. Guess I'll use something else. There are three Rachels. Rachel***
I'll use the 8 key, new beginnings.
---Rachel on 11/6/06


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Alan of UK is now Quent5968, and if you are on PenPal you could write to me & I will explain why.
Incidently I don't like to be called Quent, and so people can still call me Alan, I am now signing myself ...
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/6/06


Quent - "a greater God is he that reveals to his children generation after generation ,age after age new revelations."

This was the particular sentence I was mainly looking at. I understand it to mean that the Bible is insufficient ...

I certainly agree with all you've said.
---laure5759 on 11/6/06


Quent - By 'understanding God in human terms' I meant trying to put Him in a box and limit His abilities, when His abilities are limitless AND beyond our comprehension.
---laure5759 on 11/6/06


Laure ... I'm glsd you managed to make something out of it! I still can't
I think though that God does give us the opportunity to understand Him in "human terms" We have to because we are not divine, and cannot comprehend Him fully. So He gives us enough to understand enough with our poor human brains.
For example Jesus was n't an actual lamb, and we can't know fully what He did and went through, but we are given the understandable image of hHim being our sacrificial Lamb.
---quent5969_the_Scot on 11/5/06


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Rachel: Just wondering what:
_ Rachel^^^ _
is supposed to mean? Maybe 'up,up&away?' or 'keep looking up?' I can easily imagine someone else here telling you that's blasphemy (at least in the USA), since you hit "666" on the keyboard to get that! ;-)
---danie9374 on 11/5/06


Emcee: And where did the source of the KJV in 1610 come from? How was it put together? three groups made of 40+ men, reviewed, assembled previous versions, which had been done before that, and before that and before that...We don't have all the truth, we have errors, but we seem to forget that.
---triggerman6 on 11/5/06


Triggerman6::Are you shooting from the hip or the lip?The birth of the KJV has roots in the protestant Reformation in English History (1610) The 4 Gospels & Acts of Apostles which were in existence since early christianity written & inspired by God were matthew Mark Luke & John.Since then there have been a number of "men inspired denominations based on the various beliefs & hence the bickering over trivialities"
---Emcee on 11/5/06


Alan - It does not make sense, I thoroughly agree with you. But each individual sentence indicates a misunderstanding of the Bible, and the general direction is that of trying to understand God in human terms, when God is beyond our comprehension. The implication also is that God is not amazing enough to make use of a 'simple book' to change millions of lives - that more is required.
---laure5759 on 11/5/06


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I am totaly confused by what you have all posted here.

So if I understand what has been said:
---triggerman6 on 11/4/06


1. Truth only comes from Jesus, but everyone is quoting the Peter, James, John et al....

2. The bible is the only word of god as far as it is translated correctly.
---triggerman6 on 11/4/06


3. Other findings, such as the dead sea scrolls should not be used to add validaty to anything.

4. The books that were not included in the King James version of the bible are meaningless.

5. Anything added to the Bible after Revelations is not of value and should be discarded.

These are the things I have read on these posts... Am I wrong that this is not the point of discussion?
---triggerman6 on 11/4/06


Which version of the Bible are we talking about anyway...I see some reference to the KJV. The bible is the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly. That is why there is so much confusion and fuss.
---triggerman6 on 11/4/06


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But is it the only word and does the KJV contain everything it should? We won't know because we don't know what was added by the verious groups that were charged with putting it together. Search History of the Bible, see how many different people had translation upon translation, change upon change...thats why the Bible even contridicts itself. Revelations was not the last book written, time wise, so do we do away with the books written after that? Hope not, we quote from them way to often.
---triggerman6 on 11/4/06


Even you that say you don't follow traditions follow traditions, every church has traditions, every church reads scripture according to those traditions. and fight tooth and nail against anyone that says their traditions are wrong. think about it.
---Jared on 11/4/06


augua, Paul tells us this: "Therefore brothers, stand fast and hold the same teahings which you all have been taught, whether by word or our letter." These "same teachings" are already defined: Abstain from fornication, that none defraud his brother; have brotherly love; lead a quiet life; mind your own business; work for a living; walk honestly and not disorderly. I Thessalonians 4:2-12; II Thessalonians 3:10-15.
---Eloy on 11/4/06


Laure ... Do you actually understand what earl is saying? I don't!
---alan8869_of_UK on 11/4/06


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augua, Jesus speaks sharply against the "traditions" of men, why? He says it is because these traditions make the word and commands of God of none effect. Whenever you put man's tradtion above God's word you will always have sin, rather than obedience to God's Commandment. God Commands: Love your neighbor; but tradition commands: Light your candles, and perform your ceremony, then after two days you can help your neighbor. So who will you follow, God's Command, or tradition's command.
---Eloy on 11/4/06


Earl and Augua. I'm not going to respond any more. Both of you do not accept the Bible as the final authority, and do not understand God. I am not saying that I understand everything, but what you both say limits God, and that I will not take part in.
---laure5759 on 11/4/06


He's the fulfillment of the Law, Matt 5:17. "The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us" Jn 1:11. "I am the Way, the Truth, & the Life" Jn 14:6. John 16:12-13 "when he,the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into ALL truth." with II Peter 1:3, "His divine power has given us everything we need for life & godliness through our knowledge of Him." All God's truth we need taught by Holy Spirit to live our life in godliness through our knowledge of Him.
---Linda on 11/3/06


Con't. To me God's Word in the 66 books of the Bible is ALL I need to know how to become a Christian and love God. II John is book of exhortation along with the entire Bible of Truth regarding how to be Christian and love God. I believe His Word does say that it is the Bible plus nothing.
---Linda on 11/3/06


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greetings.for laure.(deut. 4.2). you may speak of validation but jesus broke traditions when he said God is his Father. he again broke traditional thought when he refused the throne of david. that is he rejected to be made king after he fed 5000 people. daniel's prophecy suffered again when the son of man said my home is not here on earth and i will not fight(phrased).a greater God is he that reveals to his children generation after generation ,age after age new revelations.
---earl on 11/3/06


2.

Paul tells us this. He said "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle."

Scripture alone is profitable. Therefore Scripture *and* Tradition is complete.

& "And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also" (2 Ti 2:2).

(con't)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


Paul writes: 'Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.' (2 Co 2:3-6)

cont
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


"As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." (Isa 59:21)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


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augua9846, the oral tradition and written tradition spoken of in 2 Thessalonians IS the Bible.

But Paul (or none of the other apostles) never say that the Oral Tradition is or would be reduced to writing and included in Scripture. IF this were true then this itself would have to be in Scripture if it's our *sole* authority.
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


*I believe that the implication of these verses - and those surrounding them, is that NOTHING ELSE IS REQUIRED*

Pauls says in 2 Tim that Scripture is useful or "profitable" for doctrine. Profitable in no way means complete. As a matter of fact the more suitable adjective would be beneficial. So if Scripture is only profitable, what then is sufficient and absolutely necessary for complete doctrine? (cont)
---augua9846 on 11/3/06


My understanding is that Jesus Himself validated the Scripture of the OT, and pre-validated the NT as well. For instance, in John 14:26 it says 'But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.'

To me, this verse means that Jesus validates the NT before it is written. Who are we to argue with Jesus.
---laure5759 on 11/3/06


earl - you've got my response to your question. Could you, however, please give me the verse/s where this is spoken of in the OT? Thanks.
---laure5759 on 11/3/06


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"2 Thess 2:15 clearly states that both the Oral Tradition and the Written Tradition are to be held on to."

augua9846, the oral tradition and written tradition spoken of in 2 Thessalonians IS the Bible.
---Kay on 11/3/06


augua, Tradition is a mistranslation. The word "paradoseis" (< parallel doctrine) in II Thessalonians is more accurately translated "same teachings", and not traditions. These "same teachings" are already defined: Abstain from fornication, that none defraud his brother; have brotherly love; lead a quiet life; mind your own business; work for a living; walk honestly and not disorderly. I Thessalonians 4:2-12; II Thessalonians 3:10-15.
---Eloy on 11/2/06


greetings.for laure.your quote was also spoken of in the o.t.what do we do with the n.t.
---earl on 11/2/06


greetings.for laure.p2.this is why the jewish rulers said, (phrased),'moses we know but jesus we do not'.they did not want jesus to go into the proverbal 'history books'.jesus was a false teacher according to them.he even broke the sabbath and every one must sacrifice for their sin of sabbath breaking.according to the the jewish rulers.
---earl on 11/2/06


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Sue, Jesus said it himself, I am the way, THE TRUTH, etc. He's the only truth. Thus He is "THE TRUTH." And Jesus is the word and the word became flesh and dwelt amoung us. If Jesus is THE TRUTH, and if Jesus is THE WORD BECAME FLESH, wouldn't it stand that the Word is TRUTH? Does that answer your question?
---Donna9759 on 11/2/06


Augua - 2 Tim 3:16,17 - All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

I believe that the implication of these verses - and those surrounding them, is that NOTHING ELSE IS REQUIRED for us to live a full life in Jesus Christ. This necessarily implies that God - and by association the Word of God (aka the Bible) is our sole authority.
---laure5759 on 11/2/06


The bible as our sole authority (Sola Scriptura) is not found anywhere in the bible. There is no history of this doctrine being taught by the apostles or anywhere in the early church.

"So then faith comes by *hearing*, and hearing by the word of God" (Ro 10:17, * mine)

2 Thess 2:15 clearly states that both the Oral Tradition and the Written Tradition are to be held on to.
---augua9846 on 11/2/06


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