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Can We Murder Babies

A group of British doctors suggest that they should have power to euthanise seriously disabled babies. Is this right?

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 ---quent5969_the_Scot on 11/5/06
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NV Barbara ... I don't think so, I beleive tha preganancy rate , not the birth, rate is lower. It seems to be down to the fact that society allows young sex, and educates protection.
Not saying I agree with that phylosophy ... just mentioned it as a fact!!
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/13/06


Quent does the Netherlands have a lower teen pregnancy rate because of easy abortion?
Most drugs are legal there as well, is the addiction rate high?
---NV_Barbara on 11/13/06


Eloy,

What you write is True that those who live by the sword die by the sword. [Your revelation has nothing to do with babies, though.]

Rachel
---Reiter on 11/12/06


Refering to the blood of innocent men
Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
AS God has avenged the innocent blood of the past by sending armys to avenge it,he will also require payment for all the blood shed in America at the hand of Doctors who killed little babies and all those who by their permission stood behind the passing of laws to permit it. We are to come out and be separate not partakers of other mens sin.
---exzucuh on 11/11/06


There is a vast difference between murder and execution. The main differentiator is the guilt or innocence of the party (ies) in question. There is no question that unborn babies are innocent. There is also no question that the Sodomites and the antediluvians were sinners, deserving of death.
---jerry6593 on 11/11/06




.reiter, all who take up the sword will perish by the sword. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 11/10/06


On Murder I have a right to comment But God has the right to Judge and he does that Perfectly well in The 10 commandments. Thou Shalt Not Murder, what else can one say! God gives life even to what others think should not have life, Take that childs life and pretend the Commandment is not talking to you is a Very UNwise and Foolish Attempt Regardless.
---Carla5754 on 11/10/06


Eloy,

I hope that You will not stand with the ones who wish to harm doctors.

Rachel
---Reiter on 11/10/06


Reiter, What I posted was serious. Judge not else you be judged, for with the same measure that you judge others, it will be used likewise to judge you. Therefore, any Doctor desiring to kill a baby, also will have others desiring to kill him.
---Eloy on 11/9/06


Eloy,

doctor killing 'jokes' are Not at all funny.

Rachel
---Reiter on 11/9/06




1 Cliff, you are right God did do those things, but He is God and we are not. He knows what is right for future events to protect His people. Man only knows what is in his own heart. Killing babies, is a sin. No one can speak for them but the Christian. The non-Christian don't care for morals. It should come from our hearts to preserve Life. Now of course many countries have laws to kill, but they have them because they come from man that don't have Christ in their hearts.
---lisa on 11/9/06


2. This should not even be a question for the true believer, because they should be govern by the laws of God. It is that many are not really Christian that take and do what they want for their own purpose and will. Only God has the right to take or give, but if someone is doing those things it is only because God has allowed this to happen for a reason, It could be to teach us or protect others, or whatever reason it might be, so in the end only God permits this to happen, if it does happen.
---lisa on 11/9/06


3. We cannot stand back and say, "well look how many God killed" You are talking about a sovereign God, who rules heaven and earth and who are we to question any of His doing? If we really love Him as we say we do, we should follow what He tells us to follow and do what He tells us to do. We are not indepentant, we belong to God.
---lisa on 11/9/06


No doctor has the right to take human life. Euthanasia is murder. I recently saw a seriously disabled boy on the Bus with his parents/grandparents. He could hear and reacted to noises. God loves the seriously disabled as much as He loves us. God does not make mistakes. Every human life is precious. Why God lets the seriously disabled survive only He knows. One thing is for certain, God does not go "oh I made a mistake, I better kill that one off". God is love and so we should be.
---Helen_5378 on 11/9/06


Gen.9:6 "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed:...", Ex.32:28, "And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: & there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." Lev.20:27,"A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death:...." Josh.6:21 "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man & woman, young and old,..." God's orders to kill people. the death penalty.
---mikefl on 11/8/06


1st Cliff ... In the cases yuo mentined, God did it, or His angels.
Eloy ... You are so right!!
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/8/06


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That group of British doctors have a serious mental disability, so likewise should we have power to euthanize those doctors?
---Eloy on 11/7/06


Does God really view human life as being that sacred? How many did He drown in the flood? how many were cremated at Sodom and Gomorrah? Didn't an angel murder all the Egyptian 1st born? Wasn't Job's whole family killed just to prove a point? Doesn't seem that way to me IMHO!
---1st_cliff on 11/7/06


Why don't they take a random sample of disabled individuals and ask if they will like to be murdered, or if they wish their mums would have killed them when they were babies?
---Okebaram on 11/7/06


We should never kill a baby deliberately but ere are a few times when maybe we should let nature take its course without medivcal intervention except to give food and water i do not believe in starving anyone to death.if it is playing God to abort it is no different by medically intervening in seriously ill babies.Jesus acted out of love with these babies docs should do the same
---doree4573 on 11/7/06


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Life is the greatest sacrament. How we treat life and how we live life should honor God. this is the ultimate act of worship. by not giveing someone death when they may deserve it we are worshiping God by honoring a person that was made in his image. We also honor humanity by allowing them to either choose God's love or reject it. But we should never keep someone from choosing to live in Love and relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
---Jared on 11/7/06


Catherine, I don't believe in the death penalty either.
---AlwaysOn on 11/7/06


Not all christians do... I don't agree with abortion, euthanisa, or the death penalty. I think our life is in the hands of God and that no man should take the life of another man. (I am opposed to war too, but I'm having troubles with that one I mean letting some of those people stay in power is crazy but I think it is more of lack of faith on my part to trust that God does have things in order)
---Jared on 11/7/06


Donna9759, if murder is wrong, and always wrong, as I believe, why do Christians agree with killing another as a "penalty"?
---Catherine on 11/6/06


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I have always wondered this question, and I probaly will until they day I die. but since when did God get off of his throne and tell the Doctors to have right at it?
---Rebecca_D on 11/6/06


It is never right to kill someone because they are "weaker" then another such as the disabled. Then what is next a race? An age? a religous group?
---Jeanne on 11/6/06


notlaw ... I suggest you read what Darlene has said.
I'm not suggesting that because the netherands practice this (and easy euthanasia) it is right!
But interstingly, although the Netherlands has aa very free attitude towards sexual morality, it has one of the lowest teenage preganancy rates in Europe.
Britain has the highest rate, and sadly the towmn where I live has the highest rate in the country.
---quent5969_the_Scot on 11/6/06


The Lord is the giver of life, who gave man the right to take it away? That's considered MURDER and MURDER is WRONG. There will be none (murderers) in heaven, it says that in the book of Revelation.
---Donna9759 on 11/6/06


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When I was 11 years old I went to the State Fair,the grounds included the State Science Museum. There they had preserved fetus in every stage of development in jars. It was very interesting to me and even at that age it wasn't hard to fathom that they were all babies. People can yell its not a baby till fully formed but God knows that child by name when it is sperm just joined with egg and no amount of denial will change the fact every bit of genetic makeup to be a person is in that zygote.
---Darlene_1 on 11/6/06


For perspective, the leading causes of death in the US, in order are:

Abortion

Medical Mistakes

Cardiovascular Disease

Cancer

Diabetes

Etc.

Doctors who like to play God will have much to answer for in the Judgement.
---jerry6593 on 11/6/06


RA, Stephen Hawkins was not a seriously disabled baby... You need to read his book.
---NurseRobert on 11/6/06


It is very scary how close many countries are coming to Nazism isn't it...
---Jared on 11/5/06


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notlaw99, human beings, from conception to death, are not pastries.
---Ryan on 11/5/06


While it may (or may not) reduce the number of abortions, it does nothing to deter the murder of children.

Curious, how long after birth do they give a parent to decide? Does it take the will of both parents or just one to exercise this option? Lastly, how much support do they have for this measure?

I've been to the Netherlands and, no offense to anyone there, but it's not exactly a country known for its moral standards.
---AlwaysOn on 11/5/06


Stephen Hawking....
---R.A. on 11/5/06


No, it isn't right.
---AlwaysOn on 11/5/06


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With respect to Abortion, it ain't a Cake tell is fully Baked. I support NARAL and Planned Parenthood.

How doctors handle a live births with serious disabilities in up to legislative bodies and the courts.
---notlaw99 on 11/5/06


During the Nazi ascendency, many people were of the opinion that only those who were physically fit had the right to live.

Is there any difference here?
---Jack on 11/5/06


Wise people should stop this insanity in the beginning for its end will be adults and old people or anyone who can't get well. To take a life is God's right and no one else's. That is so wrong, it's as wrong as Hitler was, with his blond headed,blue eyed people being the best of the race. Where would it stop? Monsters have worn doctor's clothes before,experimentation in German Concentration Camps in World War two.
---Darlene_1 on 11/5/06


Murder is never right. Why not just give doctors the right to euthanise anyone that has genetic dispositions for cancer, terminal illness or death?
---Ryan on 11/5/06


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The blog was not posted as I wrote it! I did not ask whether this was right! The whole idea appals me.
I should expand the suggestion a little. The group suggest that by allowing this, they will reduce the number of abortions, because women will no longer seek an abortion because they fear the baby may be born with a disability; they will be able to wait and see whether the child is disabled before making the decision to end its life.
Apparently it happens already in the Netherlands
---quent5969_the_Scot on 11/5/06


I wouldn't think so, that baby can bring more meaning and love into our lives than many "normal" Babies. I think those born with disabilities are great witnesses to the power and strength of God, as well as the Love of God.
---Jared on 11/5/06


In the US we murder many babies....some call it choice, others call it abortion, but God calls it murder!
---sam on 11/5/06


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