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Christians And Republican Party

Are Christians being used by the Republican party? The Foley scandal and the apparent failure of Dennis Hastert to take action is upsetting. I feel that politicians need our votes and say what we want to hear to get votes on election day, then ignore their convictions until the next elextion.

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 ---Brother_Lon on 11/6/06
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You've noticed, Bro Lon?

There's a whole book about it: Tempting Faith.
---Jack on 5/24/07


the issues that people face are different. Many in the Urban areas are more concerned with social issues because there is more poverty in thoses areas. where as most Rural people are self employed and hate high taxes, which is why they tend to vote republican. That is why it is important to have the electoral college. because the 2 areas can't be managed the same way that is why the USSR fell more than anything else. they couldn't feed their people because you can't manage the Rural areas from the City.
---Jared on 11/8/06


Jared. thanks for that info. whats interesting to me is why people in different regions vote the way they do. Inner cities seem to vote mostly democrat,
and rural areas go rep, or did in this past pres election.
wayne5363
---wayne on 11/8/06


Don't mess with Texas.
---Shiela on 11/8/06


we need to remember that we are United States not United People, the line between socialism and the republic is very thin, and most of it is dealing with the State or the People. We have drawn closer and closer to socialism mainly because the people elect the senators instead of the states. the states have no say in our gov't anymore except for the fact that they must ratify admendments.
---Jared on 11/8/06




those stats have been on the web for the past couple of years. But like all stats they can be used either way. One problem with the stats is that there will always be more crime in the "blue" states because they have more people. But these stats are available. I can't remember where but I've read them before.
---Jared on 11/8/06


Madison. just click on your name at the bottom of any blog you've posted, and it will take you to all your responses, you can read your history. thanks for replying back. If you can't find it, ill look it up for you. I agree, the blame should be on Foley himself. As you know this evil thing is in churches as well as political parties.
How do they think they can get away with this? thanks, have a good day.
wayne5363
---wayne on 11/8/06


Madison, the statement you made is on the blog( Rep's loosing mid term elections)
thanks.
wayne5363
---wayne on 11/8/06


Jack. the statistics came from someone in our church. Like you, i'm curious to. However i'm sure the facts are true. I'll try to find the sourse of the material.
thanks for your interest.
wayne5363
---wayne on 11/8/06


Jack. the statistics came from someone in our church. Like you, i'm curious to. However i'm sure the facts are true. I'll try to find the sourse of the material.
thanks for your interest.
---wayne on 11/8/06




Wayne: Please refresh my memory. When did I say "putting the blame on Foley himself?" Since you quote me, I would like the date and time of that post.
---Madison1101 on 11/7/06


Wayne, I'm curious to know just where you got your statistics.
---Jack on 11/7/06


wayne you have brought up a very important point here. this is why it is so important to keep the Electoral College. this is a equalizing agent in our Republic. A true president must be able to lead both the urban centers and the rural areas. By keeping the Electoral College our votes are worth more, The only change that I would make is split the Electoral votes so it would directly resemble the population's wishes.
---Jared on 11/7/06


If we ever have a constitutional admendment to remove the Electoral College I will be fearful for our country. because every vote outside of New York, LA, Chichago, and the other major cities will be negated. our leader will be elected only by the Large cities. Our country would quickly lose all it's respect and Power. And it would probably bring us to civil war.
---Jared on 11/7/06


here are some interesting facts.
Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million; Bush: 143 million;
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush: 2,427,000
States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13 .2; Bush: 2.1
the critical point is when people living on gov entitlements passes 50% and can control future elections. It's then the party that promises the most free entitlements wins.

---wayne on 11/7/06


Madison, you stated that you were for "putting the blame on Foley himself"
now you blanket this scandal as a cover up by as you stated "being sold a bill of goods by the Rep party, look at the Foley scandal" unquote....
This sounds like double talk to me...
wayne5363
---wayne on 11/7/06


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We have to use christian discernment when voting. Vote our convictions, then let God handle the rest. He is not deceived, and we don't have to be either. The value vote is voting for the things we value. What are the things you'll value?
wayne5363
---wayne on 11/7/06


Well, it's election day. I suppose we all must hold our noses and cast a ballot. Politics is a dirty business, but a necessary one. For that matter, religion is a dirty business, as the Ted Haggard incident illustrates. Yet faith is the heart of the matter. Peace to you all.
---Lawrence_Wesley on 11/7/06


If we had a Christian Party what brand of Christian would the party be? Catholics make up the majority of Christians in this country. Or would it be fundamentalist, they make up a small but vocal minority. I am not too crazy about any religious group taking control. History has proven that theocracies dont serve the people.
---randy on 11/7/06


part 1....
The average age of all the worlds greatest civilizations is about 200 yrs. They always progress through these phases:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"
---wayne on 11/6/06


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part 2
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St.Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:





---wayne on 11/6/06



territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned projects and living off government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of Democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
---wayne on 11/6/06


I guess the Christian party will come when Jesus does and he brings his kingdom and rule to earth!
---sam on 11/6/06


Um there is a Christian Party... there are over 100 parties in politics. Those that support Natural law, to legalization of Marijuana, to Communist, and socialist. The main 2 parties are the Rep. and Dem. Most of the other parties are lobiest to these.
---Jared on 11/6/06


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I believe that the Christians in this country have been sold a bill of goods by many Republicans in an attempt to sway your votes. The Foley scandal is just one example.

That is why I vote by Party Platform, not by the man.
---Madison1101 on 11/6/06


Pharisee ... i do not thinkit would work in politics.
In the UK our Christians are spread evenly between the main political parties (and I suppose the minor ones)
They meet together and pray together.
but they do not have the same policies as far as the running of the country in matters of economics, health provision, diplomacy, crime prevention, etc.
So a Christian party would get nowhere on those matters!
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/6/06


Why isn't there a Christian party?

Christians need to unite.
---Pharisee on 11/6/06


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