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Did God Hate Esau

Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, but hated Esau; I made his mountains a waste, his heritage a desert for jackals, Malachai 1:3 As it is written: "I loved Jacob but hated Esau.", Romans 9:13
WHY did God hate Esau?

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Because he was sinful from the beginning.
---Betty on 5/11/09

Sue, quoted from Mal. 1:2,3, Actual emotional hatred for Esau and His offspring is no the point. Malachi, who wrote the declaration more then 1500 years after their death, was looking back at these two men-and by extension the nations (Israel-Edom) that came from their descendants. "Before the two had done anything good or evil" rested only on God. God's choice of Jacob instead of Esau, to continue the physical line was not based on Jacobs personal merit or demerit, the choice was made by God for the purpose of God according to election." Rather, God's choice of Jacob resides solely in God's own sovereign plan, a perfect example of election unto salvation, "Not of works but of Him who call."
---MarkV. on 5/11/09

Bible shows that Esau was a god-less wicked man.. and God knew the outcome of his life before he was born....everybody has a chance at salvation, and God wants all to know him, but some dont want it..
---Darrin on 5/10/09

Janez, John was prophecying from OT.

We do know from man's point of view, Jesus was hated and despised of men, not preferred at all by men.

But here is more on this verse.
11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth ,)

Now read this for comparison:

Isaiah 45:4

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/08

Hi Cathrine:

If stupidity is the basis for God's hatred of human beings as you suggested, then what hope is there for any member of the human race?

Moreover, if God is as emotional as we are, as you said, when would be a good time to ask him a silly question?

Since Jesus declared that he came to save those who were lost, there would be something difficulty in fulfilling that mission if His attitude towards those who were sinners was so uncompromising.
---Janze on 6/18/08

Hi Kathrine:

The words you quoted were spoken by John and in that context, it is fully understood. The fact that John said that the one who comes after him was also before him is an obvbiuos indication that John recognised the situation.

By the way, I hope that we can converse with the understanding that we are learning how to be more like what God intended us to be.
---Janze on 6/18/08

Deuteronomy 14:2
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee AKA: to prefer above another, to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

This was Jacob, renamed Israel.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/08

Janze, how do you then explain these scriptures. Are you saying MAN is preferring here or GOD. GOD certainly is the one Preferring Jesus over and above John the Baptist.

John 1:27
He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose.

John 1:30
This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/08

Hi Kathrine:

Clearly, if you explain that God prefered Jacob to Esau, then you must also be saying that God is a man. For only men have preference. Or perhaps, you are saying that God created Esau so that He can hate Esau.

I believe that we have to accept a simple quality of the Bible that is was written from the observers' view point. That perspective puts that issue and other importan issues in a different light.
---Janze on 6/17/08

At another time Jesus said, "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple" (Luke 14:26). This doesn't mean we should despise and hate our family members, but we should love Jesus more than ourselves and family.

"Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated" simply means God favored Jacob rather than Esau to fulfill His plan.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/08

NO! Go does not hate Esau. He hates SIN not the SNNER! PR.
---Pierr5358 on 6/17/08

yes God hated Esau, for Jacob cheated Esau which caused Esau to harbor murder in his heart for Jacob.
---Eloy on 6/17/08

If we believe the Bible, we cannot say that God didn't hate Esau, but what he stood for. Because it clearly states "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."
Either God hated Esau, or the word translated as "hated" would be best translated differently.
Anything else would be putting our own thoughts above the plain meaning of scriptures.
God hates wickedess, but not the wicked. We are all wicked. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
For God so loved the world.
---Todd1 on 6/17/08

God did not hate Esau, He hated what Esau stood for. Esau sold his birthright for a morsel of food to fill his belly. Esau disobeyed his parents and married who his parents told him not to marry.

Esau represents that of Judas, selling out Jesus for money.

God KNOWS beginning from End.

Also it was told to Rebecca the elder will serve the younger even before they were born.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/08

Hebrews 12:15-17
15Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled,

16Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

17For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/08

Malachai chapter 1 is pretty clear. God hated Esau.

First of all, as Christians, we need to realize our God loves us, but he hates the wicked.

Second, I don't believe we should be asking, "Why does God hate Esau?" A more important question is, "Why did he love us so much that he sent his only begotten son to die for us?"

All I can say is, "Thank you."
---trey on 5/30/08

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I read that Hebrew doesn't have comparitively descriptive words like "more than" or "less than" so things are often written as opposites, such as first and second written as "first and last", or loved more and loved less written as as "loved and hated". Like when Jesus said we should hate our father/mother/wife/children. Just means "love less" than God. Anyway, that's what I found.
---Todd1 on 5/21/08

Esau was stupid. And stupid is not pleasing to God. His intentions may had been good, but did not improve his position with family or with God. It all had to do with Esau and all his heathen wives. Plus, he had hatred in his heart. He wanted to kill Jacob. Also because of Esau's goings on, it stripped Esau of the headship of the people through which Messiah would come. thus, the lineage became Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God really had it in for Esau, and I can see why.
---catherine on 5/21/08

greetings.the revelation that jesus taught of his Father specifically details that his Father nor he hates any of his children.Hate cannot be found in love.Jesus taught the pure in heart shall see God.A heart with hate cannot be pure unless the heart has changed.God changes not.The pure heart of the Father has forgiveness and mercy as his has always been.Jesus revealed the true heart of God.
---earl on 5/21/08

There was no love lost between Esau and God. Some understand it of the election and rejection of particular persons-some loved, and others hated, from Eternity.>>>>The Jews had for many ages been the favourites of Heaven. Now that the gospel was preached, Christian churches [and in process of time Christian nation], And this bothers me, become their successors in the divine favour.>>>>Now this. Cont.
---catherine on 8/9/07

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Some of you do not know God. God has emotions and God does and can hate.
---catherine on 8/9/07

God's chosen is Jesus. All who are chosen are chosen in Him. I believe using the word "hate" is the only way God could convey His incredible love for His Son. This was for the protection of the Seed down through the ages, just as His judgment in the OT was protection of the Seed. Every time He judged wickedness, it was for the preservation of those through whom the seed would come.
---Linda on 8/9/07

His protection of us who are in Christ is not just for us to feel comfortable. It is for the preservation of the seed in the earth.

"He shall see His seed and prolong His days and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand." His seed is and shall be mighty in the earth. "And if you be Christ's, then are you Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise."
---Linda on 8/9/07

Sue, the study notes in my Bible indicate that it is not emotion that is involved here. It says that this is said in the sense that God chose Jacob over Esau to be the Father of the twelve tribes of Israel. The comparison is made that we select God over our parents as our Father. I hope this helps ...
---laure5759 on 8/9/07

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The biblical scriptures indicate that there are two sides to God. As Isiah prophesized about the new people God will make with "the sure mercies of David. Isiah said that God will "give men for you" in reference to God's chosen people whom he hath chosen "before the foundations of the earth."
This leaves us to wonder if something has been left out of the scriptures that confirms and reassures us that,as the Psalmist says "there is no unrighteousness in God".
---John on 12/24/06

What is written is written the Bible is hard at times for us to take-it says Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated.
---Jeanne on 12/6/06

Earl knows The G-d of LOVE.

---Reiter on 11/13/06

Earl - God hates sin! If this is not hate, then I do not know what it is.
---laure5759 on 11/12/06

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.reiter, God is not only Love, but also has expressed great wrath and hatred for the wicked even to the point of destroying all life from the earth in Noah's day, and again he will do so shortly by fire. He will not burn those whom he loves, but only those whom he hates. He does not desire to destroy any in hell fire, thus his long-suffering to mankind with our pleadings daily for people to repent and come to God, but for man's unceasing sin and violence against the innocent and the holy he will do so.
---Eloy on 11/13/06

Eloy, read my post on 11/10/06.
---Okebaram on 11/12/06

Do not believe that G-d hated Esau! Do not believe that G-d hates Esau's descendents! How can a G-d love one side of a woman's womb, and despise the other...Esau was loved. Together, Jacob and Esau are loved. Together.

---Reiter on 11/12/06

Eloy, people do not reside in a permanent emotional state of Love or Hate. There are Times when we feel Love and Times when we feel Hatred. Feelings fluxuate and they can be provoked to change. i.e. If a man's wife has an affair, the husband may "hate" his wife momentarily, but the foundation of Love that the marriage was built upon still stands. In this way, a man can Love his wife, but for a moment [or day/week/month...] have temporary feelings of hatred towards her.

---Reiter on 11/12/06

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we procieve hate on God's part because we cannot see into his relms, but God doesn't hate because hate is sin and sin is not in God. Eloy, I hope you don't think I am attacking you. but I do not lean on my own understanding where I don't know I lean on God and he carries me. Where I do know I praise God for the Wisdom he has Given me, where I am foolish I repent and praise God for his grace and mercy. I am Christ's Not my own, and I serve him daily.
---Jared on 11/11/06

I believe Jacob and Esau represent two different kinds of people, and I believe this is what the Lord is trying to say to us. Esau represents unregenerate worldliness. Romans 9 says, not all Israel is Israel, but in Isaac will thy seed be called. Jacob represents those who are the true spiritual seed. Galatians 3. As Paul said, I am crucified to the world and the world to me. Esau sold his birthright for an earthly gratification.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/06

Pharaoh represents those of the world. God's mercy is shown through Jesus Christ, for all who come to Him through His Son. The children of the flesh opposed to the children of the spirit. Mercy also RE:the publican and pharisee. The publican confesssed he was a sinner, and was shown mercy. The pharisee in his pride,represent Esau and Pharoaoh. Those belonging to the Lord are born of the Spirit. Through difficult times,those of the spirit never become hardened clay. Those without the Holy Spirit do.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/06

.reiter, you are not speaking the truth, scripture does not say that Jacob hated Esau and wanted to kill him like Esau wanted to do to him; also God has said more than once that he hated Esau, yet contradicting God's word you say that God loved him instead.
---Eloy on 11/10/06

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God does not hate, while we were still sinners christ died for us. this means while we were his enemies he provided the way. why because he so loved the world that he gave his only son not to condem the world but to provide everlasting life. I think the core of the gospel supports my views. (we are the ones that reject and hate because we are the ones that sin and reject God's love)
---Jared on 11/10/06

greetings.did jesus ever teach hate?after all,he is the son of God.Would he know the truth?Does any one have an experience where they know of God to teach them hate.Does God change his nature of love to hate?If not,then you know your Father much better than they did.Can one say ,after reading the gospels that the Father does not forgive but hates?
---earl on 11/10/06

Jared, You should lean upon God's understanding rather than your own. Do not be deluded, God does not love every body, only those who agree to follow him does he love, but all who choose to dis him he has wrath and he hates with perfect hatred. And he did not just make a heaven for everybody, but he made a very real everlasting firey hell for those who he hates. Please read Galatians 6:7; Psalms 11:5; 34:16; Hosea 9:15; Mark 11:15-17; Malachi 1:2,3; Romans 9:13; John 3:3,5,19-21,36; Revelation 14:9-11.
---Eloy on 11/10/06

God blessed Jacob more than Esau (for reasons beyond Esau, including a prophetical preparation of the Israelite nation). God blessed Esau less though he did nothing wrong. That equals hate in a figurative sense which is the way the bible uses it. 'Hate' here is 100% idiomatic in the way I described. If God literally hated Esau how come Esau was blessed? How come he was alive and well anyway? I think God would have consumed him with fire from heaven. But the god that will do such can't be my God.
---Okebaram on 11/10/06

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You choose to apply to word hate I choose love less, The Father is love, hate has no place in Him.
---Josef on 11/10/06

Hate is just the absense of LOVE. G-d loved Esau even though he was not happy with all of his choices. Jacob's heart was not right, either. Jacob was a deceiver until he went through a transformation and it took quite a lot of wrestling for him to get there! Esau is not any more at fault than Jacob. Poor Esau was deceived out of what would have made HIM the great nation! Esau was loved more by his father and Jacob was what in today's terms would be called a "mama's boy"

---Reiter on 11/10/06

it may mean hated but does it mean that God hated or that our understanding of God would hate? If God loves sinners before they become right with him how can he at the same time hate. We are the ones that Hate not God.
---Jared on 11/10/06

The word HATED in verse Romans 9:13 means HATED!!!!!
---mima on 11/10/06

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The word hate in this verse simply means love less. He loved him less because Esau thought so little of his birthright that he sold it for a bowl of soup. The Father knew this would happen before Esau was ever born.
---Josef on 11/10/06

Esau chose food over his God-given birthright. He was hungry so he sold his birthright, the firstborn blessing of inheritance, to Jacob for some pottage of red kidney beans. And when Jacob disguised himself as Esau to his father, thereby cheating Esau out of his father's blessing, again, Esau became filled with bitterness and hate against his brother Jacob, and wanted to kill him. Eventhough Jacob was guilty of defrauding his brother, Esau's heart was not right. Please read Genesis 27:41.
---Eloy on 11/9/06

God doesn't reject man rejects. God is actively pursuing human kind yet we continue to flee. this is why Jesus came. and this is why Repenting is important because it is turning around to run toward God instead of fleeing from him.
---Jared on 11/9/06

Jacob quiet humble and soft spoken? no he wasn't he was a skeemer and minipulator he would twist something to get what he wanted. that's why he got rich. But God used him anyways. I don't know why but I bet it has to do with Grace.
---Jared on 11/8/06

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The complete answer is found when you can answer why God rejected Cain. Others have killed or defied or hidden and still been accepted of God but not Cain. Read and search out 2John 3:8-12. Genetics matter.
---mikefl on 11/8/06

I think to understand why God hated Esau we must look at the contrast of Jacob and Esau. Esau is what we would call a "manly man" or "Man's man". Jacob was not a man's man he was quiet humble and soft spoken. It is these qualities that God either hated or loved. God does not look at a "Man's man" as a Godly man God hates pride and fleshly deeds. God rewards humbleness and kindness. This is what that scripture refers to.
---Ryan on 11/8/06

God did not hate Esau, Esau rejected God. Esau went on his own way he sold himself out, God did not do it. God lets us do what we want. Ususally it will lead to Distruction. But he still loves us, he loved us enough to come from Heaven to live among mankind, to teach and lead, to suffer and die, and to give great hope in the resurrection. this is Love not hate. Esau rejected his own blessing God didn't withold it from him.
---Jared on 11/8/06

What is written is written so we either believe it all or none -there is no just believing here & there. Dont forget what seems "cruel" in our eyes is due to our limited view & that we can only "see" so far. God sees the entire picture- start to end so He has reasons that we sometimes may never understand until Heaven. Hate can also mean "prefer" at times but regardless it is the Word of God.
---Jeanne on 11/8/06

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