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Why Paid Church Staff

Why do churches have paid staff? Shouldn't we all be doing our part for free?

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 ---Ryan on 11/8/06
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Rebecca, In this day and age, monetary giving is far more easier and readily available to most congregations...that is why they give monetary tithing for the purpose of helping others etc..Nonetary funds today is far more acceptable according to our lifestyle..and it has changed over the decades..
---pam on 12/8/07

Scripture says a worker should be paid his wages, including church workers. The pastor has to pay the rent, and feed his family. Doctors expect to be paid for their services.
---Madison1101 on 11/25/07

Robyn: That is exactly how my church runs. No one is paid to do something in our church. We all have jobs. Now the Elderely of course is on Medicare. If a person in the church needs help, we all pitch in to help. Whatever needs done, we do it right then. We don't have meetings on what we can do, for who and when. If one needs firewood, they'll have it tomorrow. We are supposed to be our brother's keeper.
---Rebecca_D on 5/7/07

I wish all staff including the pastor would hold jobs and take care of their own needs. If someone gets in trouble, including the pastor, we as fellow congregants, can come together in love and help them get back on their feet I think everyone would benefit, from this arrangement. As it now stands, the pastor, makes the most money in the church. Most pastors have ,at least, 2-3 paydays each and every week.Twice on Sundays.
---Robyn on 5/7/07

Mima I asked this question a long time ago when I was still using the name 'Ryan' instead of 'Ryan_Z'. Do you honestly not like my questions? Or do I detect a note of sarcasim in your response? My beloved brother (Or sister, I'm not sure) in Christ you don't pull any punches with your questions either and I love it. Keep up the good fight my friend.
---Ryan_Z on 5/4/07

Ryan, Ryan my man, please back off these difficult questions. To continue with questions like this is to force the reader to examine themselves. We will literally start believing what the Bible says. Is there no end to your punishing questions?
---mima on 5/4/07

rebecca, that is a decient attitude, but don't you think it is odd that our tax system is such that we need to deduct charitable giving. I think our tax system is broken and needs entirely changed. It is sad that a church is treatened more by the tax system than anything else. You all should check out the fair tax plan I really think this will change alot in our country (and churches will be free to be churches)
---Jared on 11/20/06

Lynn; You can't say that about all churches. Because you haven't been to all churches. Some churches are just corporations, and has more money than sense. but that isn't the truth in all churches. When I pay my tithes, I don't put it on my taxes. To me that is like being an Indian Giver.
---Rebecca_D on 11/20/06

Jared.....You are truly called of God if you have that kind of attitude. Keep up the good work for the Lord.
---Susie on 11/11/06

Eloy is right, it is up to the minister, but it is also up to the church. In the case of pauls tent making he did it because the church was not mature enough to give and support ministry, Paul also accepted payment so he could focus on his ministry. Both are good but we should not say one way or the other. If the church is wanting the pastor to minister full time then they have to support him/her, because they do have to live.
---Jared on 11/10/06

That's integrity, Jared. When I think about all the pro athletes, movie stars,'talking heads' (news), paid in the millions, I wouldn't want one of your family members starving. Do you remember a nat'l news item, a very religious man hit hard times and one of his family starved to death? He wouldn't ask for help. So many extremes. Then you have the mega wealthy ministries, that everyone would lay down on the railroad track for. If common sense is so 'common', why is it so hard to find?
---R.A. on 11/10/06

It is up to the ministers whether they accept payment for their service or not. We read that Jesus did not ask for any tithe nor any money, and also Paul and Barnabas did not accept payment for their preaching. Paul made tents day and night to support himself, rather than accept money from the parishoners. Please read I Corinthians 9:18.
---Eloy on 11/9/06

For the Scripture says, "You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain," and, "The laborer is worthy of his wages."
1 Tim 5:18
I believe God would want us to support Jared and his family (and others), than have them standing in a bread line. I hope you have insurance, too.
---R.A. on 11/9/06

Norma7374 "...instead of him having to work at a job and be a minister as well."
Isn't this what Paul did?
---Ryan on 11/9/06

But even though I get paid nearly nothing I really really Love being a minister. I can't think of any other thing I would rather do.
---Jared on 11/9/06

Phil...The 501c3 packet which we received last year states that a church does not have to receive a 501c3 classification. Tithes and offerings are still tax deductible without it. Properties ran for religious purposes are tax exempt no matter who owns the property. The church property we owned until this year was in our name, but because it was being used as a church we did not have to pay property taxes on it. The 501c3 rules have changed drastically in the last five years.
---Susie on 11/9/06

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Personally, I feel that we win more people to Jesus by ministering outside the church building than in one. That's why we sold the church property and went back to ministering in prisons, homeless shelters, nursing homes, etc. And, Jared, is underpaid even if he does get rent and insurance free. $600 a month doesn't buy much more than groceries now days.
---Susie on 11/9/06

Jared, I didn't know you are a minister. $600.00 a month is not near enough for all the work you have to do. Unless of course they furnish you with free medical insurance and you don't have to pay rent. What with all the schooling that most ministers have to go through I think they should be paid. I would rather see a church pay their minister instead of him having to work at a job and be a minister as well.
---Norma7374 on 11/9/06

I once attended a church where the choir and the nursery workers wanted to be paid. I thought it was ridiculous. The children in the nursery belonged to the nursery workers. So they were wanting to be paid for watching their own children. What ever happened to working for God rather than for greedy gain?
---Kay on 11/9/06

I was being sarcastic. I really enjoy Ryan's questions. I am certain the Bible is totally true. I'm equally certain that my understanding of the Bible is not perfect. And I really enjoy reading the different opinions expressed on this blog.
---mima on 11/9/06

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If your church is not a 501c3 there are ramification. Contributions to the church are tax deductible for for any one making them. Any income the church gets collects is taxable and any real property the church owns my also be put on the local tax roles. 501c3 status gives you church certain right and responsibilities. Church organizations that try to work outside the system do so at their own peril. And when they eventually get in trouble for it all I will do is laugh because they are managed by idiots.
---Phil_theElder on 11/9/06

mima, are you saying that you do not take the Bible to be the total truth?
Peace be with you
---kent on 11/9/06

Lynn, Not my church! We refuse to accept the terms of 501c3. We refuse to be concidered corporations. please be more careful and not condemn all churches because not all are 501c3.
---jason on 11/8/06

many pastors do preach for free. the pay that they get is compinsation for not working in a job that would allow them a better life. Ministry is not easy and it's not a job for most people. it is a sacrifice even with pay. I get paid $600 a month tell me that I'm paid too much. i speak at 3 services a week lead youth group and sunday school and have to work another job. Pastors are sacrificing and if you don't pay them they will sacrifice their family (and nobody wants a divorce minister)
---Jared on 11/8/06

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Lynn many Churches are not 501c. To be so it has to be applied for and 501c does not make a Corporation.
The Churches I started never were and we never applied. So now what?
Next why does the Electric Company charge a Pastor/Preacher for service? Why don't they give it to him for free?
---Elder on 11/8/06

A worker is worth their wages. Most churches have both paid staff/volunteer. Lets face facts a lot of "paid" people dont show up , so U know not every volunteers will. My church does have both those that come in to volunteer and those that come in as paid workers. I have no problem w/this people need to eat, pay rent, lights etc. It would be great if we all could be volunteers and live off some trust fund but the fact is most need to work hard all our lives.
---Jeanne on 11/8/06

If we all gave of ourselves in the church then we would be dependant on each other. We would have to share our abundance. There would be no one of higher rank or status. The groups would have to remain smaller in size to accomidate meetings, more like a close but extended family. WOW, much like the churches in Biblical times. How could we live without being able to boast "I go the the First Church of The Refrigerated downtown"... We have 10 busses and 2 services...
---mikefl on 11/8/06

Churches are just Corporations, check yours out! 501c3, study the law. They bow down to the beast.. and you feed it..
---Lynn on 11/8/06

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Does your doctor treat you for free?

Do teachers teach you or your children for free?

Do soldiers serve for free?

I have degrees in music. I didn't get them for free.
---Jack on 11/8/06

Church staff like everybody else have needs. Food, accomodation, kids etc etc.
---pkay on 11/8/06

If the church wants a full time pastor, then they pay him to do just that and not work outside of the church. if they do then I'd don't see the problem of paying him. but if the Pastor is lazy and doesn't study the word to preach, then no he doesn't need to be paid, he needs a tighter walk with God.
---Rebecca_D on 11/8/06

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