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Divine Blood Of Christ

Do Christians have any authority or permission to use the divine blood of Christ that is today on the mercy seat in heaven? You've no doubt heard the term to "plead the blood". But the question is do we have authority or permission to do this?

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Mark....you summed it up very very wisely. You have shown a lot of maturity and spiritual understanding. My reason for coming to this blog everyday has been realized again....thanks. Can't add anything more. You said it well.
---Robyn on 7/13/07


That's just one of those catch phrases used by pop-evangelicals that is founded upon no warrant of scripture, a fond thing vainly invented.
---Jack on 7/12/07


most here agree, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin, WHY then are christians still asking for forgiveness of there sin when they have been set free from sin, there sins not counted against them ????????????/
---duane on 2/25/07


i saw the comments and you all have points but you all are missing it. i dont come in my own power but the word. "when one plead the blood". the bible says you must be born of the water and Spirirt to enter the kingdom. to speak on the blood. the blood is the same as the word, anointing of God, the sprinkled water in the old testament, and more. but the blood is the symbolise the cleansing our pourifing. when we plead, we call out, or beging, speaking. we pled the blood over our life
---mark on 2/24/07


AlanUK_quent5969 , I understand, I'll talk with you on the other blogs, The Spirit just isn't leading me to stay on this one. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06




AlanUK_quent5969 , I'll talk with you on the other blogs, The Spirit just isn't leading me to stay on this one. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06


Mrs M ... I accept the admonition!
But I did use the word "seem"
Unlike the one who accused me of calling God (or the Bible) a liar.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/17/06


(1.)For a person/persons to continually insist, that they know someone's intentions and heart(without discernment from the Lord), accuse one of "leaving Jesus out" that's very sad.There's is a flip side to that coin, There are those who have only a "form of Jesus" Don't truly understand every thing that is connected with Jesus "the whole Jesus"(deny the power connected to His name,and His Blood),Say His blood was mere human blood, thus, "corrupted"...
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06


(2.)...So they are powerless,with only their vain "form of Jesus". Those who falsely claim that the Blood of Jesus was mere human(corrupted), The Truth isn't in them. The Word declares that It wasn't corrupted, many Christian's know this:(1Pet.1:18).Jesus can't be separated from His power that is in His Blood and His name.No matter how many times one who rebuffs that power says "in the name of Jesus" or I am "saved by the Blood",they speak these words in vain...
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06


(3.)...and are sadly like these fellows:(Acts 19:13-16).They deny the power thereof(2 Tim 3:5)(Philippians 3:10) , and are not "truly acquainted with Jesus and His power that is connected with Him, that same power of His resurrection". Been through this already with the same individuals on a different Blog, Stops here for me,to continue this nonsense is not the reason why I came to these blogs.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/17/06




(II.)AlanUK_quent5969, Remember that "incident" When someone had misunderstood you on a different blog?You said something like"Thank You for misrepresenting everything I have said". Do YOU remember how that felt?Wouldn't you say that it's a little hypocritical for YOU to do the same thing?You keep saying,"I was quoting what YOU said".Anybody can quote something,and make their "own interpretation out of it".Try the spirit that is motivating you.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/16/06


Alan,
In the same way Mrs Morgan insists we all use the jargon that she has learned, there are those who have a fixation on "the Name" of Jesus. In at least one case, they are so focused on the "name" that they are more like a cult. A "Cult of the Name of Jesus". For them it is all about the name just like for Mrs Morgan it is all about the "divine blood."

The person and sacrifice of Jesus gets lost in the jargon and retoric.
---Bruce5656 on 11/16/06


AlanUK_quent5969 , You seem to have a hard time letting things go. The Truth was told.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/16/06


Mrs M ... I was quoting what YOU said!
It seems that it is more important to you that people believe in the power of the divine blood of jJesus, than in Jesus Himself,
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/16/06


lisa , I love you too, but the Holy Spirit has taught me this, so how can I put "human reasoning" above God?
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/15/06


I thought this question was very straight forward. I don't find the answer in all the comments thus far. Even my own, I guess, although I thought I was answering it! I don't think God objects to our using the precious blood of Christ as protection from the evil one. We believer's have been saved by it & through it our sinful humaness has been redeemed from sin's power unto death. We are born again unto eternal life. The life is in the blood. That life is still powerful today to cleanse, protect & redeem.
---Lindal on 11/15/06


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Jeanne,
"We know that DNA is the compound in cell nuclei that is the basis of herdity. Herdity it the passing of characteristics."

Whose genetic makeup do you think Jesus was descendant from? Was it not Mary? Does that not make him human?

Again, we cannot ignore or deny his humanity any more than we can ignore or deny his divinity.
---Bruce5656 on 11/15/06


Morgan, I understand why you cannot answer a simple question. I have ask and others on many things you say and we ask for Scripture but you cannot find it. I also understand the language that is used out there and its meant for good and sounds good but we have to get it right because the life of a soul depends on the Truth. Otherwise it is not going to mean anything and many will commit but won't be saved. That is what is happening in this times with so much of the language.
---lisa on 11/15/06


2. We love you Morgan, and we know you mean well, and it is ok for you to say it, but when speaking Scripture for witnessing it has to be correct. Bruce is a good teacher and his points are great. Just a simple point and I won't say anything more because enough has been said. Thanks you and blessings to you.
---lisa on 11/15/06


It is divine because He is divine. He is all divine not part. He is the only begotten Son since God is all Divine, Jesus was- is- will be- always fully God. We know that DNA is the compound in cell nuclei that is the basis of herdity. Herdity it the passing of characteristics. Christianity depends on the shedding of the blood, pleading the blood, if it is not divine U might as well plead the blood of any good man.
---Jeanne on 11/15/06


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Mrs Morgan
I don't see anyone here denying the power of the "blood of Jesus". What I see are people who refuse to be drawn into the trap of having to express the reality of who Jesus is, what he did and what the benefit is to us today in certain specific jargon.

I have demonstrated to you how Paul did not use the language (jargon) as what you and your church do. Was he also lost?
---Bruce5656 on 11/15/06


PART TWO:
He never spoke of the "divine blood"
He gloried rather in the "cross"
He never said anything about the blood of Jesus being "in us". Rather he said that the Holy Spirit is in us. He can be in us because of the shed blood but it is He not the blood that is in us.
---Bruce5656 on 11/15/06


PART THREE:
Have you even read the scriptures I posted below? What on earth do you think they mean?

You are like those who, finding a verse that seems to indicate baptisimal regeneration, rejecting all those that refute it.
---Bruce5656 on 11/15/06


AlanUK_quent5969 , If you wish to believe that so be it(God knows my heart, what I believe), be careful about what you say about peoples intentions, but honestly I think that statement was ridiculous! Im moving on , Alan. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/15/06


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Mrs Morgan, I don't deny blood of Jesus for it is that which washes our sins away, cleanses us from all past/future sins when we repent. Power in the blood is in the sacrifice and what that bought. Our power to resist sin comes from Jesus and the Father in our hearts , Holy Ghost inhabiting our Temples/bodies. Any power we have to serve God in Gifts comes from the empowerment of the Holy Ghost. Each person in the Godhead has a part in making us a whole Christian. Bruce,thanks,I understood what you mean.
---Darlene_1 on 11/15/06


Mrs M ... You say now "I just know that Jesus can't be separated from His Blood"
Which basically what I said
But then you say "ONLY the divine blood of Jesus can set a person free from sin"
So you are saying there that the Blood is more powerful than Jesus Himself
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/15/06


(II.) mima, I have never witnessed someone work so hard to fight the fact that the Blood of Jesus is powerful and unique, then here on these blogs, I'm speechless! How can they sing about the Jesus Blood songs, if they don't believe it in their hearts?It is simply NOT the move of the Spirit. It is very DISTURBING. Beware! Jesus can't be separated from His own shed Blood, His dying, and His sinless Blood can't be separated. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/15/06


Darlene,
I would like to clairify my comments below. When I repeat the phrase "(not the blood)" or similar in the listing of scriptures below, I am not trying to remove the blood from the cross, sacrifice, and offering but rather to emphasise that Paul did not feel it was necessary to specify the "blood" because all those terms speak of the same thing - The sacrifical, bloody offering of Jesus for sin on the cross. There is no need to use one term over the other.
---Bruce5656 on 11/15/06


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karen/lisa, Regarding your question about my Lord's Blood. There is only 1 correct answer in regard to that, I hope you find it. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/15/06


Brother Bruce, again I thank you for a great explanation. You have put it down very well. In all, I would say that when witnessing we have to speak what is truth to the unbeliever. Because only the Truth will convict him. Anything else is mixing truth with untruth and has no power to really convict anyone. Words used by many can some times become reality in our minds but which is not truth at all.
---lisa on 11/15/06


Bro. Bruce, I agree with all of that and am so grateful you gave me the veses,thanks. I too believe you can't just make Christ completely divine when He has human nature and was also completely human for He was conceived Matthew 1:20,and therefore as human as His mother Mary for He received her egg to form Him. Thats what conception is. There must be balance.
---Darlene_1 on 11/15/06


mima, Some think that their "head/intellectual" knowledge in regard to the Blood of Jesus, will justify them explaining AWAY that power in His sinless SANCTIFYING Blood. You just can't truly study the Word of God like that(2 Timothy 2:15,16), you need the unction of the Spirit to help you, guide you, but some REFUSE that, so they are:(II Timothy 3:7). Once again, can't get to heaven(no eternal LIFE)without that divine Blood of Jesus. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/15/06


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Hello Morgan, we are connected, Lisa and I, by Christ. He is our connection. We live in the same state but we are a different color. We are also connect by the same teachings. Only different teachers. I found that calling someone sister, offens someone on line. I remember someone here, that is very common, no names please, cause he will blow a fuse, made a remark about that. So I keep it simple. You still did not give a passage. If you cannot find one its ok.
---karen on 11/15/06


Jesus' blood has power in it. The power to cleanse, protect, give life eternal. Blood sacrifice; OT cleansing of sin. Protection of His people; Passover. Eternal life; resurrection power, blood returned to heaven. I've simplified what is incomprehensible. There is no "if" about it. He is the divine Son of God. We are covered by His blood. We can claim it to defeat Satan. Hebrews has much to say regarding our great High Priest and the victory we have through His blood. Heb. 10:19-23; Heb.9:24-26
---Linda on 11/14/06


PART ONE:
Darlene,
To answer your question: "could Christ's body and blood been divine and still acomplished the purpose He came for,to be the pure sacrifical lamb."

It is critical (for a proper understanding of what Jesus did for us) to understand that God became man. Not like a man, but a man. Flesh of Mary's flesh Rom 1:3, descendant of Eve Gen 3:15.

The mystery is how God could become a man. However the fact is, he did.
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART TWO:
I like the way Josh McDowell (Jesus a Biblical Defense of His Diety) put it.

"The fallen, guilty race of Adam could not have their sins atoned for except by a Sin-Bearer who represented them as a true human being as He laid down His life for their sake. The Old Testament term for Redeemer is go el, which implies ''kinsman-redeemer.'' He therefore had to be related by blood to the person whose cause he took over and whose need he supplied"
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


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PART THREE:
Jesus did have a dual nature. Son of Man and Son of God. (human and divine).

To emphasis either aspect of his dual nature at the expense of the other aspect gives a distorted view of who he was and what he did.

Mrs Morgan insists (as she has been taught by her minister) that it is all about the "divine blood." She uses catch phrases that represent a deeper truth but has either failed to grasp
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART FOUR:
the reality behind them or has never been taught what they represent.

The focus on the slogan "divine blood" is decidedly unscriptural. The expression is not found in scripture. Oh yes Paul spoke of the blood (although he never called it "divine") and the only two words used to describe the blood in the NT are "innocent" and "precious".
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART FIVE:

Matthew 27:4, "Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that."
1 Peter 1:19, "But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:"
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART SIX:
Paul speaks of the blood:
(As outlined by Exzucuh)
Hebrews 13:20 God brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Revelation 1:5 Jesus Christ washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Revelation 5:9 Jesus redeemed us to God by his blood
Revelation 7:14 have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


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PART SEVEN:
Eph 1:7I redemption through his blood,
Eph 2:13we are made nigh by the blood
Col 1:20 peace through the blood of his cross
Hebrews 9:12 by his own blood he obtained eternal redemption for us.
Hebrews 9:14 the blood of Christwill purge your conscience
Hebrews 10:19 we enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Hebrews 13:12 he might sanctify the people with his own blood,
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART SEVEN:
Eph 1:7I redemption through his blood,
Eph 2:13we are made nigh by the blood
Col 1:20 peace through the blood of his cross
Hebrews 9:12 by his own blood he obtained eternal redemption for us.
Hebrews 9:14 the blood of Christwill purge your conscience
Hebrews 10:19 we enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Hebrews 13:12 he might sanctify the people with his own blood,
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART EIGHT:
Paul speaks of the cross

1 Cor 1:17-18, "For the preaching of the cross (not the blood) is the power of God."
Galatians 5:11, "offence of the cross" (not the blood)
Galatians 6:12, "suffer persecution for the cross of Christ." (not the blood)
Galatians 6:14, "glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ (not the blood)
Ephesians 2:16, "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, (not the blood)
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART NINE:

Philippians 3:18, "they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:" (not the blood)
Hebrews 12:2, "endured the cross, (not shed his blood)
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


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PART TEN:

Paul speaks of the sacrifice
Or what about the ones that emphasize the sacrifice
Hebrews 7:27, " offer up sacrificethis he did once, when he offered up himself."(not gave his blood)
Hebrews 9:26, "put away sin by the sacrifice of himself." (not by his blood)
Hebrews 10:12, "one sacrifice for sins for ever (not the blood)
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART ELEVEN:
Paul speaks of the offering
Hebrews 10:10, " we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus."
Hebrews 10:14, "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified."

Cross, blood, sacrifice, offering they are all synonymous. They all speak of the redemptive work of our savior.
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


PART TWELVE:
Where one preacher may emphasis the "blood", another may emphasize the "cross" and another emphasizes the "sacrifice". They are all talking about the same thing. A balanced view will talk about all three.
---Bruce5656 on 11/14/06


karen , Are you connected with Lisa in some way? She always says "Morgan" too. Someone had mentioned that issue on penpal. Most people say "Mrs. Morgan". I was just curious.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/14/06


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AlanUK_quent5969, "...Yet MrsM seems to make Jesus' blood more important than Jesus Himself, and more important than His supreme Sacrifice of His whole self" Alan, No, I don't feel that way at all(God knows). I just know that Jesus can't be separated from His Blood, And that His people are "fully aware" of that POWER that is connected to His Blood(Many Christian hymns profess this) , that's what I believe. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/14/06


(II.)AlanUK_quent5969, This is a very serious topic in the Church , Just look it up on the internet. Use these Key Words: Sinless Blood Christ, for example. This is not something to just "brush under the rug". God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/14/06


If Jesus was/is the Son of God, He was/is divine.
That means his body is divine, his eyeballs, his hair, his fingernails, His hands. his feet, and so is His blood.
Jesus is much more than just any of these, so is more than His blood.
Yet MrsM seems to make Jesus' blood more important than Jesus Himself, and more important than His supreme Sacrifice of His whole self
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/14/06


Morgan, you haven't shown Scripture that it is Jesus blood flowing through you. You gave me your opinion but I trust God's Word first. Just one passage would do. You want people to believe something but you give no Scripture to that effect. I hear a lot of others that I know speak things but many times its just how they feel but not Scriptural.
---karen on 11/14/06


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Darlene_1, Our Lord came wrapped in flesh(like us) but it's so important not to deny that His precious Blood was different.I read an Baptist article about the importance of acknowledging the sinless nature,that power that's connected to His Blood(this is how we are saved)LIFE is in the Blood.Let the Holy Spirit guide you,the Spirit warns Christian's about the Subtility of the enemy, we must be careful!We are in a Spiritual War and many Christian's don't have God's power,because they deny It.God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/14/06


Mrs Morgan thank you for your input. Bruce thank you,I don't mean to beat this to death but my big question is could Christ's body and blood been divine and still acomplished the purpose He came for,to be the pure sacrifical lamb. I wonder because God didn't require the divine at any point for sacrifice,pure lambs,sinless,yes,but always God tells us when He changes any pattern He set in the Bible and He didn't tell us He wanted the 100% humanman Christ to be totaly divine to be sacrificed.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 11/14/06


Darlene_1 , (Genesis 3:1), Many are letting themselves be lead of the spirit of the anti-Christ(not of God), beware of them. The devil goes against that unique quality in the Blood of Jesus , because there is eternal life in Jesus' Blood. Once again, Beware, because many are tragically sealing their fate with their own words, by DENYING that power thereof(II Tim 3:5), in the precious Blood of Jesus. Darlene,we can't get to heaven without that POWER, that is in that sinless Blood! God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/14/06


Darlene,
She can never show you what does not exist.
---bruce5656 on 11/14/06


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Darlene_1, "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were NOT redeemed with CORRUPTIBLE things,as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;But with the precious blood of Christ, AS OF a lamb without blemish and without spot:"(1 Pet.1:18-19).The quality/nature of the Blood of our Lord Jesus,is AS OF a lamb without blemish,meaning It is NOT tainted(with the"Adamic taint").His unique Blood is NOT corruptible.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/13/06


Darlene_1 , Dear one, Just let the Holy Spirit speak to you in regards to this. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/13/06


Mrs Morgan thanks for your answer, but I'm trying to find in the Bible where it says, blood of Jesus is divine.I've never heard this theology before in my life and I'm 68,been saved 57 years, done in depth Bible study for 46 so I will never believe anything I can't find in the Bible. That is the concrete answer I'm searching for and a Christian must have it, for anything that can't be proven by the Word of God can't be accepted as far as I'm concerned. I'm not closed minded just cautious.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 11/13/06


Morgan and others who take this blood thing a little too literally. all throughout history, man has used parables, metaphors and similes to bring into the mind of the listener a certain objective. When God said He was like a hen, is He a hen? No, He was trying to talk in man's language so man could understand what he was trying to say. Much like we use today "his blood is on your hands" to say a person is guilty.

Jesus is alive and well.
---Steveng on 11/12/06


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(III.) Darlene_1 , BTW, Do you believe that the Blood of Jesus is divine, sinless? I recall having a discussion about this with you in the past. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/12/06


(I.)Darlene_1 , "Concrete evidence" is what you seek? Many Christian's have sought God for better understanding in regard to His Word, and they always expect a "Concrete Answer" , but it isn't always like that when it comes to the things of God, Jesus told Nicodemus in regard to "heavenly things":(John 3:10-12).
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/12/06


(II.)Darlene_1 , So, believing that ONLY the divine blood of Jesus can set a person free from sin, and that one can't enter heaven unless they are sanctified through the Blood of Jesus is sufficient. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/12/06


Mrs Morgan,case is never closed with the words of humankind, the only thing which can close the case on this is the Holy Word of God in Chapter and verse. I said I am sorry because I don't want to appear contentious which isn't my intention. I am truely searching and only the plain written Word of God can satisfy my search. Would be grateful for any concrete Bible verses given.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 11/12/06


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Darlene_1, You don't need to apologize to me , I know the Truth. Case closed.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/11/06


(II.) Darlene_1, We Christian's will need to go beyond only our 5 physical senses in regard to the things of God's , or else we will totally be in the dark about things. God is not limited like we are. Do you know what your soul looks like? the size of it? The divine Blood of Jesus is not typical, It is very wonderfully unique, just like everything thing that has to do with God.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/11/06


(II.) Darlene_1, We Christian's will need to go beyond only our 5 physical senses in regard to the things of God's , or else we will totally be in the dark about things. God is not limited like we are. Do you know what your soul looks like? the size of it? The divine Blood of Jesus is not typical, It is very wonderfully unique, just like everything that has to do with God.
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/11/06


The soul has no blood for it is;Merriam -Webster Dictionary, the moral and emotional nature of a human being,spiritual or moral force. Strongs Concordance 5590 breath of life,life,soul differs from body because it's not dissolved by death. The soul is saved from sin by the washing of the blood of Jesus of the whole person but the blood isn't in the soul nor could it in any way be for blood is substance and soul is spirit. Mrs Morgan sorry but Christs blood has no container to flow through in the soul.
---Darlene_1 on 11/11/06


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Absolutely we do. When I sin I run to Christ and I hide behind the blood as I repent so that God the Father can not see my sin what he see is his bloody Son who covered my sins. The Jews sacrificed animals to "cover" hide and remove their sin Jesus is the ultimate sacrifice/lamb so His blood covers, hides and removes my sins. Without the blood we would not have redemption, during Passover the spirit of death "passed over" due to the blood on the door posts.
---Jeanne on 11/11/06


We are redeemed by the blood, and it is right and also commanded by the Lord that we apply this blood to all who need it. "The blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin; and he the appeasement is yours for sin: and not for ours only, but even for all the world. And they have overcome the Accuser of the brothers by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives up to the death." I John 1:7; 2:2; Revelation 12:11.
---Eloy on 11/11/06


karen , How do I know the Blood of Jesus is flowing in my soul, and in my life? How do I know that the Blood of Jesus is divine? The Holy Spirit Himself bears witness of this to me, and I accept It by FAITH. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/10/06


Where does Scripture state that the blood of Jesus flows through every believer? Please at least one passage. I am very interested to see what everyone here is speaking about. I might have the wrong Bible.
---karen on 11/10/06


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When we have Jesus as our savior we have His blood applied to our lives. I don't think we can take any more of that and apply it to certain areas. All areas are covered already. It's not like we can dip into the pot over and over again and apply it where we want to. It's a done deal. I agree with Jack. It's a catch phrase.
---john on 11/10/06


There is NO LIMITATION,of how much of the divine Blood of Jesus that His people can use!There is NO LACK of It.We serve a wonderful and miraculous God,The Word says with God ALL things are possible!Remember the miracle of the fishes and loaves?The Blood of Jesus,flows in the souls of His redeemed,we are to use what we already possess.Everything that is connected with the Blood of Jesus is available for us to use,claim by FAITH in God daily.(Eph. 2:13)(James 4:8).
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/10/06


Darlene1-I suggest a close study of Hebrews chapters 9-10-12.
---mima on 11/10/06


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