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Is Amercia In The End Times

They say "America" is not mentioned in the end times like many other countries indeed are. What is your take on this?

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The fact is the Government might well could have afforded to pay for the changes if they had left the Social Security funds alone. What they did was invest the SS funds in USA,thats law,Bonds and took the money made off those bonds into the General Fund instead of back into the SS Trust Fund. Lyndon Johnson did that. Franklen Roosvelt intended the SS Funds would be used only for the SS Retirement Program and no other programs. The Government kept adding Programs some of which never paid into SS and unfairly spent Retirement money. Oh yes one little point the Senior Citizens who have Medicare pay a fee each month for that service so it isn't free as some think plus we have to pay for Privatesector insurance which covers what Medicare doesn't.
---Darlene_1 on 3/25/10

larry--- I remember when Obama himself threatened to publish the names and addresses of AIG executives after people threatened them and their children. Obama told them "I'm all that stands between you and the pitchforks!"
(mob justice encouraged by the president!)

Congressmen interrogated Auto makers verbally and humiliated them on TV... until they took control of GM! Then it was the president of Toyota! (no "saving face" for this gentle Japanese man... such international diplomacy!)

Republicans objected strongly to Medicare part D. They were not quiet, they were ignored.

Nobody I know "hates" the president... But hundreds of thousands sure do hate his policies!
---Donna66 on 3/24/10

The new Health Bill will reduce Medicare 500 Billion Dollars in the next decade.
---Darlene_1 on 3/23/10

That will hit just when all the Baby Boomers will need Medicare.

That's Frightening!
---John on 3/24/10

I have read it several times, probably in the hundreds. I cant see NY as a Harlot, or false Belief system, and She (RCC) has Killed more Christians (blood of the Saints) than any other organization. This is the Baal system of religion, Sunday worship (Sun god), winter Solstice Feast (Christmas), Fertility Feast(Easter),and so-on.
If you want to believe that this is not about Her, fine with me for the time comes very soon when all shall be known.
Peace unto you.
---Ed on 3/25/10

Mark .... "I have tried to talk to you about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and I know where that led me. To apologize over and over"

Three points:

One: You've never talked to me about the Gospel (Jesus saves) only about Predestination (that God decides who will benefit from that Gospel, and whom He will damn)

Two: Yes, it led you to repeated breach of the 9th Commandment.

Three: Your apologies? For losing your rag when I pointed out your misrepresentations and lies ... never for telling and retelling the lies.

Poor lad ... when people disagree you say they hate you. Do you have a persecution complex?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/25/10

Darlene, there were no protests, threats and epithets thrown at Congress members, yelling from the galley and house floor, threats of citizen armies, publishing home addresses of Congress members or vandalism of their offices when the GOP passed Medicare Part B at a cost of $2 TRILLION.
Republicans were church mouse quiet, mostly because cost have exceeded expectations since 2002.
GWB oversaw the largest expansion of Medicare since 1965 with no way to pay for it, thus Republicans could be free of tax increase charges as costs were kicked down the road.
Democrats are no better but those are the facts.
This hypocritical shrill vitriol and fist pounding has nothing to do with health care. Its hate for the president.
---larry on 3/24/10

Alan you're welcome. Yes it will change the face of the Nation,not for good,although I don't think Obama ever thought the American people would rise up against a president. So far 14 States have filed suits in court,13 together,1 alone plus there are others thinking about doing it. The States who already have insurance programs say this Bill will hurt them and cost more. Obama isn't as interested in helping people as appearing to want change for good,and in controlling everything by the Govenment. Now he wants a program where people can be followed through their cell phones. When Obama was running for office he made himself,his plans sound wonderful to some of the people. Factually,he is a harbinger of destruction to the American way of life.
---Darlene1 on 3/24/10

Alan, let me word this as best as I can. I have tried to talk to you about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and I know where that led me. To apologize over and over. Didn't do you or me any good.
Now comes politics, which would be even worse to discuss with you. You have got into our politics so many times that I cannot remember when you didn't with so many. Your socialist ideas are not my ideas, and never will be, so talking about what we do in my country, and our politics is not a good idea. You might already know because that is what you like to discuss with others. Your intentions are hard to tell, but my discernment is very good, that is why I wish to step aside.
---MarkV. on 3/24/10

Gordon has some good points but there is no clear reference to America or the west in end times.
We're not Gog, Magog and certainly not Israel.

We are definitely important to world affairs but there is nothing to suggest a key role in end times.
The bible wasn't written here, the church wasn't birthed here and Christ is not returning here.

Its very hard for westerners to accept.
---larry on 3/24/10

Darlene ... Thanks for answering.

But Mark said "Now he has change the face of our country in such short time" Do you think the changes you mention have changed the face of your country?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/24/10

John I looked it up and the $695.00 fine if one doesn't take insurance begins in 2014. I saw on the news for now its the $90+. The new Health Bill will reduce Medicare 500 Billion Dollars in the next decade. I have a real problem with the Government cutting the Medicare like that so they can pay for insurance for someone who can't pay. Seniors worked hard ,payed into the system and thought,with good reason it had been working,it would give them a living in their old age. Also its a very sad fact the Government has allowed the Drug Companies to charge Americans high prices for medicine which they now can't afford,even with insurance.
---Darlene_1 on 3/23/10

Darlene1, I think the fine is $600-$700 for not buying Health Insurance.

Totally unconstitutional. Can you imagine, for the 1st time in History the Government will tell people what to buy, by force!

Now they can fine you for just sitting at home and doing nothing.

That is Communism!

I guess we are headed for a 2nd civil war.
---John on 3/23/10

Alan,this is happening. Health Bill passed,because Obamas party has the majority. Polls have shown,52% or 60+% of America's people object to the Bill. It's so serious because the Bill forces people to take out Insurance or get fined up to $97.00 if they refuse. There's nothing in our Constitution which allows the Government to fine people for what they don't do. The States are angry,30 States have said they may fight it in the Courts or by passing State Laws which don't allow it. Federal Laws trump State so that may not work. Texas,having been an Independent Nation when it entered the USA as a State and is the only State which has the right to pull out of USA,the Govenor has threatened to do just that,secede from the Country.
---Darlene_1 on 3/23/10

Gordon ... The USA is not the first country to have such awesome power in the world.

Think of Spain and her Empire, England and her's, and Germany who brought the whole world to war.

If the USA is to have been mentioned in the BIble, would not those also?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/23/10

Mark ""All we can do is talk about us here in America"

Do you not think it is an idea to talk about how those things might affect the rest of the world?

"I have no clue what is happening in the U.K. I don't believe it is important to me to know what others are doing" Maybe that is a problem! I am not asking you about what is going on the in the UK, but about what is going on the the USA,, which you know and I do not know.

But if you don't want to know what goes on the the UK, or anywhere else, maybe that is a problem, because you won't know the affect, good or bad, that the USA might have on the world. Such total insularity seems dangerous.
---alan8566_of_uki on 3/23/10

Mark ... "Here you want to draw me in to prove something to you so that you can oppose something I say"

I ask you for facts about the USA, which are not available here. I promise I won't dispute the facts, for I cannot, nor would I want to.

As the USA is the most influential country in the world, and the UK is very closely linked, and affected by whatever happens in the USA, don't you think it reasonable that we should know what is going on there?

"All we can do is talk about us here in America" Really? In the CN international forum do you think that is all that should be discussed?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/23/10

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We don't hear about that in our media.
We just hear about the bnattles over tyhe Health scheme, but nothing else.

What else is going on to make such a change?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/23/10

Now that Obama knows he can do anything without a vote from congress. Their next move is to Legallise all the Illegals in the USA (30 million) using the same techinque they used for Socialize Medicine. When they do that, then they will secure power FOREVER. The 2 party system has died with the Sunday coup. We now have only one party and a dictator. That is NOT rederic, it is now a bonifide fact.
---John on 3/23/10

I personally believe, still, that America is (or, at least has a great possibility of being) the modern "Babylon" of Revelation 18. I believe she is the country referred to in Jeremiah 51. Also, I believe she is one of the lands dwelling "carelessly in the isles" from Ezekiel 39:6. As great and awesome and prosperous and FREE that this once great Nation has been, birthed, no less, than by GOD HIMSELF....there is no way that this country would not be referred to in Scripture anyway. But, that latter sentiment is not what I base my belief on, regarding America being in the Holy Scriptures. America is, and will play, an astoundingly great role in the New World Order lead by the false messiah, the Anti-Christ.
---Gordon on 3/23/10

Alan, my talk about our country was with Darline. I have no clue what is happening in the U.K. I don't believe it is important to me to know what others are doing. What is going to happen in the future is going to happen whether I like it or not. All we can do is talk about us here in America. And here in America it is about what is happening in America, not what is happening anywhere else.
I have followed your comments and you speak from a socialist point of view with others about our country. Here you want to draw me in to prove something to you so that you can oppose something I say. I don't think getting into a political discussion about the USA with you will help you are me. Maybe someone else will bite. Thanks anyway
---MarkV. on 3/23/10

MarkV You say of Obama "Now he has change the face of our country in such short time"

We don't hear about that in our media.
We just hear about the bnattles over tyhe Health scheme, but nothing else.

What else is going on to make such a change?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/23/10

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Darline, your post makes a lot of sense to me. We are heading in that direction and very fast. No one knew about Obama three years ago. Now he has change the face of our country in such short time. And more is to come. No one could ever imagine anyone could do all that, in such a short time.

If you think back, people reading Scripture of end times, talked about a person who would come and inspire the world with his works in the end times, but even though they talked, they could not imagine anyone could be able to do that without people responding against him and stopping him. Here you have a guy no one knew, and look at all that has happened in such a short time and no one can stop him. We are in big trouble?
---MarkV. on 3/23/10


You do not even read the whole verse before you pick it apart. Stop reading into the passage read OUT of the passage. The seven heads are seven mountains and are seven KINGS. Seven kings or seven empires. Stop trying to make the great harlot into the RCC.

Did you read anything else in Rev 17 & 18?

The great and strong city. The Vatican does not reign over the kings of today. Nobody makes policy based on what the Pope says. It is not strong, it has no army. The businessmen of the world would not weep at its loss. The businessmen of today do not buy and sell from the Vatican. And it does not have a sea port.

Think of another city. NYC?
---Mark_Eaton on 3/22/10

You wrote,"Here is the mind which has wisdom The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman"

Woman is always referred to as meaning a Church or religion. It explains that the seven heads are seven mountain, the City of Rome is known as the City of seven mountains. The Vatican is a country that sets in the city of Rome. Water is water and they drink it during Daniel time. But that and what you said has nothing to do with the subject were talking about.
This is not an a attack on Catholic members.
Remember that if one causes someone to sin that person sins not, but the one who causes it sins twice. Peace
---Ed on 3/22/10


You read but with a mind that is already made up.

Rev 17:9-10 "Here is the mind which has wisdom The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings, five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he comes, he must remain a little while."

They are not the seven hills of Rome. They are the seven empires of Daniel. Five have fallen: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persian, Greece, one is remaining: Roman, the one not yet come: the lawless one or the beast from the sea in Rev 13.
---Mark_Eaton on 3/22/10

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having multitudes of peoples, nations, and tongues.

You do know that all countries in the world have a RCC in them and they have killed more Christians that any one organization in the world (Blood of the Saints). They are surrounded by 7 Horns (7 hills) as foretold. All the kings of the world give homage to them including the USA President.
They claim to be equal with GOD on earth, worship Idols, Require confessing to priest,
forgive sins, etc.
Good luck to you.
---Ed on 3/22/10

Perhaps the reason The United States of America isn't mentioned is because she will no longer be that by the time the end comes. America is on a downhill spiral to destruction,and our President is in the forefront for pushing her over the edge. Can any thinking American justify taking more money from its people through higher taxes for Health Insurance on others in the time of a recession. That makes no sense at all. That Health Insurance is going to put a worse hardship on the people of America especially small business owners who cannot afford to furnish Health Care Insurance to workers and workers can't afford to buy it. We are in trouble and people need to forget Party loyalty and do whats best for America. Thats not more taxes or debt.
---Darlene_1 on 3/22/10

Jim your post is right on the money!
---John on 3/22/10

I feel that God is using our current government situation to set up the destruction of America for "end times" results. America, with its coming economic failure and lack of world respect, will be in no position to come to the aid of Israel. The health care bill is just the beginning of changes. Think about it...who, in their right mind, would vote for the changes to our way of life with the lack of pubic support unless God was hardening their hearts?
---Jim on 3/21/10

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Interesting Gordon, I would side with the opinion that the United States is insignificant in escatology. Its a real stretch to find the United States in Revelation and it does not appear that we are either Gog of Magog or have a major role in Armaggedon.
Most of us probably have a hard time accepting it but history of man and the bible began in the Middle East and Africa.
The largest population of Christians reside in Africa with 340 million. The least Christianized continent in terms of gospel following is Europe with 4.2%. What does that tell ya.
Israel is the end all and be all.
---larry on 7/6/09

The U.S.A. has been too much of a vital country on this Earth, and GOD, Who founded her, esteemed her so much with His Blessings and Freedoms,....does it make sense that He would NOT include her in His Prophetic Agenda?
---Gordon on 5/4/09

Amos 3

2You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

The ONLY place, thing, people GOD founded was Israel, and that was under a THEOCRACY...not democracy. REAL LIBERTY is ONLY in Christ.

Jesus didn't come to bless nations, but save sinners!!!
---kathr4453 on 7/6/09


Sorry buddy, but your logic is all off. Was the Roman empire called the Italian Empire? Or was the Babylonian empire called the Chaldean empire? No, down through history civilations have been refered to by the cities that dominated them. If we were to look at the USA in that way, the great city could be either NYC or DC. My vote is for NYC, just as the 9/11 terrorists saw us.

The RCC is not your scarlet-clad rider. It is not a port city, it does not have a large Jewish population, does not reign over all the kings of the earth, and is not characterized as having multitudes of peoples, nations, and tongues.
---Mark_Eaton on 6/13/09

jeremi & Gordon,

Re (17-18) 17:7 ...And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns...

It ain't that difficult. All ya gotta do is believe that the angel wasn't lyin': and then... continue reading. MYSTERY? America ain't a city. Neither is DC, which is a district (read the Constitution, if ya don't believe me.)

Ask yourself--"Which CITY is arrayed in purple and scarlet... and drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus?"

I'd tell ya: but that would take all the fun out of it.
---BruceB on 6/13/09

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Some see America in the "eagle" symbolism of "end time" prophesies.
But, since the Continents of N. and S. America were unknown to the prophets, any reference to them is necessarily vague.

Yet, the U.S. may figure in the prophesied global government. Obama wants us all to be "citizens of the world". Congress and the Supreme Court are strangely compliant with governmental take-over of private Enterprise. Some claim that Americans NEED gov't to manage more problem areas. They are willing to let the president (or his arbitrarily chosen czars) dictate wages, the products of industry, and personal health care decisions.
End-times for all? or just for "the land of the free"?
---Donna66 on 6/10/09

America is not mystery Babylon. Mystery Babylon is the beast that John saw rise up out of the sea. It is given 42 months to blaspheme. This 42 months is an Angelic reference of time that equals approx 1650 earth years. build our belief system upon which ever verse that we want to build upon.
---jeremi on 6/9/09

I believe that America is the Babylon of Revelation 18. And, of Jeremiah 50-51. Some Bible scholars think that America is not in the Scriptures concerning Prophecy, because her status will be so reduced down to a third-world status, and that so many Americans are "christians" who will all be going up in the Rapture, that there'll be nothing much left of her worth mentioning in the Scriptures. Read Revelation 18 and Jeremiah 50-51, you will see that Babylon is being whittled down to nothing. The U.S.A. has been too much of a vital country on this Earth, and GOD, Who founded her, esteemed her so much with His Blessings and Freedoms,....does it make sense that He would NOT include her in His Prophetic Agenda?
---Gordon on 5/4/09

Nope. I read it. Never saw america in it once. But dont believe me, read it yourself at, the holey bible, still found in many nite tables today.
---Dave on 5/1/09

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2. Rapture. 30 million Americans or more, gone in a flash. .....---sam7489 on 4/19/09

Noah's family was on earth. The remainder destroyed....Noah seen new Erets...and cosmos had changed as well for him.
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away, and there was no more sea.
Revelation 21
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Matthew 24:37
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luke 17:25
---Trav on 4/20/09

America is not mentioned in end times due to three possible scenarios:

1. Nuclear attack which Richard Maybury discussed in his newsletter. Once again, something our intelligence services know in advance due to their hundreds of billions of dollar budgets for sniffing these things out.
2. Rapture. 30 million Americans or more, gone in a flash. Talk about economic collapse, a rapture would decimate the economy.
3. Collapse of the U.S. Dollar. As the Dollar goes, so goes the country. In 1971, Nixon made our currency fully fiat. Fiat as in faith-based currency: we believe it to be worth whatever we are told it is worth.
---sam7489 on 4/19/09

The end times started when Jesus was resurrected, so yes, America is in the end times. God bless.
---JohnnyB on 4/10/09

us is a major player because the antichrist system is a way of thinkimg for example wall street, abortion crooked pols etc the idea of the return of the roman empire is foolish , the united nations is the image of the beast- it was created by man and mirrors the power of the world system- just like during the war in kuwait all the nations of the world will gather in the middle east under one flag the united nations to stop an invasion of israel as it says in the scripture they took half of the city- they means arab nations on that day christ will return- they day of the lord is like a thousand years, the idea of a rapture prior to the day of the lord if foolish- the idea that the 144,000 are al jweish virgins is foolish-
---Arthur on 4/10/09

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Rev 12:14 depicts Christs church (Rev 12:13, Matt 16:18 ...SHE refers to spiritual Israel those Christians who are holding fast to Gods commandments (his truths) Dan 9:4, 1John 2:4, 5:3

eagle wings are same as ancient Israel in Ex 19:4 when Great Eagle of God protected ancient Israel from Egyptians

expressed again during time of tribulation 3 1/2 years (Rev 12:14, Dan 12:11-12) when God protects his own(John 17:15, Luke 21:36, Matt 24:20) Ex 20:12-13, Rev 12:17 ...just like Noah and Lot who escaped so will women of Rev 12, who is not same as women in Rev 17

Great Britian and US not in prophecy because they are taken captive by united europe of 10 countries and little horn of papacy ...US has already weakened WITHIN Eph 6:12
---Rhonda on 3/3/09

The whole human race is in God's salvation plan. He is not a respector of countries or any group of people save, of course, Israel. During the first resurrection all who hears Jesus' voice will rise to heaven - whether Jew or Gentile. At the second resurrection all the other dead will rise and be judged from the Book of Life - Jew or Gentile. The israelites were the favored group of people on Earth (to bring God's word to the world in which they failed) as was Mary being favored among women by God to bring Jesus into the world.

We are all in this together.
---Steveng on 3/3/09

Da 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagles wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a mans heart was given to it.

Wanna guess who this is?

The Lion is the recognized symbol of England. The Eagle's Wings plucked off are the US being separtated by independence. Standing on its feet with the heart of a man - ol' Uncle Sam.

Re 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

A friend of Israel? Bets, anyone?
---BruceB on 3/3/09

I think more importantly, whether America is mentioned in prophecy or not, the question should be whether individuals are ready to meet Christ. Every person will give an account to Him. Are you ready? He already paid our debt for sin, we just need to repent and turn to follow Him.
---Leisa on 2/27/09

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I think if Americans do not turn back to Jesus Christ. We may incur His wrath like other nations that turned from Him after getting fat and Happy. The Jewish prayer of Shema will attest as a warning to all those turn from God. We should call people to repent and be obediant to Him. Be careful who we vote into office and don't turn against Israel!
---yochanon on 12/25/07

First of all,God knows where the tribes are.Second of all,Rev.17 is the false religeous system.I believe Jeremiah 50,51 and Rev.18 could very well be speaking of the U.S. I do not know of these others passages that have been given,but I deffinately believe in these I have stated and am willing to show why.One scripture that for sure tells of the U.S. and others as well,Jeremiah 30:11,46:28,and Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.Notice--Except ISRAEL!!!
---Tommy on 12/24/07

America is in the end times. The 1260 days prophecy of Revelation 11 took place in San Antonio Texas.
---duke on 12/16/07

I believe that America is mentioned in the end times and that Revelations 17 Mystery Babylon is her name. Daughter of Babylon. However, Greater than Ancient Babylon. Mother of Harlots that sovereign city that reigns over all the cities of the earth.
---Maria on 10/9/07

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I believe that America is mentioned in the end times and that Revelations 17 Mystery Babylon is her name. Daughter of Babylon. However, Greater than Ancient Babylon. Mother of Harlots that sovereign city that reigns over all the cities of the earth.
---Maria on 10/9/07

Hi James. 3 points. Can you say USA = ? and UK, Canada, NZ = ? (Ephraim or Manasseh) also I thought there were only 12 tribes of Israel so who is the 13th? also wouldn't Judah and Levi be the most prominent tribes? Cheers
---Toby on 6/22/07

America and the UK (including Australia, Canada) are mentioned more than you think. They are the modern descendants of the 2 most prominent tribes of Israel, Ephraim and Manasseh (the 2 sons of Joseph.) The Jews are just one of 13 tribes (with some of Levi & Benjamin with them.) Vivid description of the US and UK at their pinnacle in Gen.49:22-26 & Deut.33:13-17. Also Ge.48:11-20.
---James on 6/21/07

A lot of countries are not mentioned in apocalyptic scenarios in the Bible.

So what?
---Jack on 5/27/07

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Many people who have studied the same things, say Christ was merely a prophet, good man, etc, but never who He claimed to be.

All dispersed Jews Hellenistic, check your bible!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/17/06

I've studied Cultural Antropology, Archeology and socialogy. and I have never heard that any of the lost tribes of Israel have come back. those that have were those from the helenistic dispersion which were mostly from the Tribe of Juda.
---Jared on 12/14/06

That returning tribe to Israel from India was Manassah, not the tribe of Dan as I erroneously stated prior.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/14/06

I read just this morning that a "lost" tribe of Israel had returned from India. Dan [have to recheck] arrived [200+ people] from Northern India [Wonder why Columbus sought India?].

Like the Ethiopian Jews, Israeli officials believe they have ligitimate rights to their "tribal name".

I believed for years America was one of the prieviously named "(Cubs) of Tarshish or England" [Ezek.38:1-9,10-(13),14-23] not called by name, scripturely.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/13/06

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Hi Jared Old age again lol or "als" Jere33:3. Gen 49:16 Dan shall judge his people as one of the tribes of Israel.V17 like most tribes and right through to today people kick at scripture, his words trying to make it say what thay want rather than letting it show its own true meaning. Good to discuss with you. thanks
---Toby on 12/2/06

I say that PRIDE never sees itself for what it is.
---kathr4453 on 12/2/06

Read Jer3:33
this verse isn't in my bible, Jer 3 only goes to 25

and from the verses in Gen. Dan will be a surpent making riders fall back is in the next verse (paraphrased) that doesn't sound good for dan make it sound like they are bad not good (besides the tribes of israel were incorpurated into the assirian culture, and only Judah remained pure.)
---Jared on 12/1/06

Jared. From memory I believe it was only dan that left their name around as the went. Even when lost they all travelled somewhere, and that is the fun finding them. It doesnt say they were lost forever as in Rev they are named. This is not a theory.Read Jer3:33
"the mighty things" in KJV are the hidden things. They can be revealed if we pray and search. Gen49:16
---Toby on 12/1/06

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um if we can follow the tribes then wouldn't they be called the traveling tribes instead of the lost tribes? the only tribe we actually know about now is Judah and the idea that Dan went to Denmark can't be proven. Most of these theroeries were started in the 1800's and were and continue to be proven wrong. LDS says that the American Indians are the lost tribes but they show no genetic similarities to Israel.
---Jared on 11/30/06

Jared what can I say Oh yeah just do the study for your self. It takes a while but it is amazing. You can follow the tribe of Dan as they left there name where they travelled, and especially where the ended, even to this very day. We have several towns in our country with the name starting with Dan, Happy studying.
---Toby on 11/30/06

like I said Toby you are reading alot into scriptures...I am sure it's fun but I really don't see that as being accurate.
---Jared on 11/29/06

Jared To be sure I can, and it is quite plain
from scripture though it does take study time. Get a map "in the back of scripture" see where Ephraim and Manassah are positioned, read scripture and it confirms these positions. Then get a modern map, esp N/America, see position of USA Canada, read scripture as to where they are to be. read re growth and blessings of these two sons and see which has each blessing. Have fun, its a cool study. Life doesnt hang on it but its fun to learn. Cheers
---Toby on 11/16/06

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Toby you are reading alot into scripture that isn't there. I'm sorry but you cannot prove that at all.
---Jared on 11/16/06

America as a name is not mentioned that I can see however tracing such a nation in scripture is fairly simple. Jacob wrestled with "an angel" and had his name changed to Israel. Her had 12 sons which are the 12 tribes making up the 144k in Rev7. When we see in maps where Jacobs sons settled then, and where they are settled now we can learn who some of the tribes are and I will deal with just 2 as they include Ephraim USA and Manassah, being England, Canada, Australia New Zealand.
---Toby on 11/15/06

I would not put much credit in the symbols that people say represent nations. the only nation mentioned are babylon and israel. both cases are symbolic.
---Jared on 11/15/06

Every generations says that they were but I think we may be if not then in the next few generations. No one will ever know the exact time but Jesus said pay attention to the signs of the season and they sure are there. But either way dont worry with fear or go the other way jump up and down because their is still much work to do, souls to be saved!
---Jeanne on 11/14/06

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Ezekiel 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Don't you make the mistake to think that Judgment won't come on America, the blood of innocent aborted babies cry out from the ground and the Government is wiping all traces of God and the name of Jesus out of our nation. It will come.
---exzucuh on 11/14/06

Notalaw99 -- it doesn't matter to me whether or not America appears in end-time prophesy. But how do you figure that the books of Daniel and Revelation are pseudepigrapha? They are both accepted as part of the canon. Somebody named "John" wrote The Revelation. If not The apostle John as is commonly accepted, then who?
---Donna2277 on 11/14/06

simply put.. America is too young to be counted among all the older nations.
---JaeR on 11/14/06

In Matthew 24 Jesus told us what to look for when the end times are near. He said these are the beginning of the birth pangs of the tribulation. After you read what Jesus said, you can determine if America is in the end times, or coming close to the tribulation period. Jesus didn't mention cities, nations, etc., but he did mention the elect, if possible could be deceived as well, but only if possible.
---Donna9759 on 11/13/06

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Apocalyptic pseudepigrapha religious text are not prophetic and only only deal with the time of their writing Revelations and Daniel are both in that category of literature. One of the classical trates is writing in the name of some religious or cultural hero. The Apostle John did not write Revelations, it is a pseudepigraphic authorship.
---notlaw99 on 11/13/06

here is a site of prophecy. also of end time prophecy so judge for yourself.
100prophecies org
---tony on 11/12/06

Deu 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, [as swift] as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

Hsa 8:1 [Set] the trumpet to thy mouth. [He shall come] as an eagle against the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law.

do a Bible search on eagle. it sure sounds to me like it is a prophecy of the US destroying Christians. but judge for yourself.
---tony on 11/12/06

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