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Are these true statements:
"Children born to non-believers are unclean."
"Children born to believers are holy."

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 ---Ryan on 11/11/06
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The answer is no,no,no
Every one is born a sinner,2 sinners can only produce a sinner.
Weather a beliver or not,the children are still born a sinner.
A child is safe until he reach the age of acountability.
No one becomes a christain by birth,he has to be born again.
---lionel on 11/4/07

It doesn't matter if you are born to a non-believer or a Christian believer. YOU are the only one that can be saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. No human saved or not can do it for u. ONLY U by yourself have to accept him.
---Ann on 11/2/07

Hello. A man or woman must be born again to come to heaven.
I think small babies come to heaven. They have done no sins.
I heard a woman telling a sight.
She sa a lot of aborted children in Heaven dancing round Jesus as small children.
God is good.

---Jan on 11/2/07

After the death of Christ, God does not imput sin on mankind. Therefore, children are set free from sin.
---calhoon on 11/2/07

No, and No. Everyone is born in sin.
---laure5759 on 11/2/07

Corinthians 7,
Lets not overlook:
"6: But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
12: But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be

pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away."
The key words are "I speak" and "speak I". Now, I too believe that Paul had the
Spirit of God just as he said. Do we have it?
---Nana on 12/12/06

What is the meaning of an unbeliever to "be pleased to dwell with" a
believer? Surely Paul would not be using the term to imply anything
material or sensual as a bond. Must certainly he is refering to a
relationship were Love abounds and were hope is a latent possibility.
The child of a believer does not get a stamp on their forehead akin to
the USDA label used for meat in the USA.
---Nana on 12/12/06

Its holiness lies in its rearing; in that the believing parent will raise the
child unto the Lord. This say I, that there are no unclean babies but
rather unclean parents.
In Isaiah 7:
"14: Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin
shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
15: Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil,
and choose the good."
---Nana on 12/12/06

Men are not like fish, and once born they must
be fed and taught. Who do you think provided the "butter" and the
"honey" mentioned?
---Nana on 12/12/06

The answer to both questions are statistically probabilistic. Children born to non-be leavers have a lower chance of being brought up in a Christian nurturing environment which will affect their behavior. Children born to christian parents are much more likely to have Christian nurturing that will have positive effects on their life.
and lastly products of an unsatisfied sexual unions are sole less reprobate conceptions and providing a host system to be ind welled by pure evil
---notlaw99 on 12/12/06

2 wrongs do not make a right. 1 sinner Adam + 1 sinner wife= 1 sinner offspring. "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy." I Corinthians 7:14.
---Eloy on 12/12/06

Matthew 19:14
Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
You and No one has the right to judge where anyone goes. Do you pray for wisdom before replying to these blogs??
---mary on 12/11/06

When we are born into this world, we were born into sin. The old sin nature was passed down to us from our earthly father (notice that Christ was born of a woman, His Father was God Almighty, which gave Him His sinless nature). It makes no difference if our parents have been born again or not. Each individual has to make the decision of whether they will accept Christ. We do not inherit eternal life from our earthly parents, that can only come when we become a child of God.
---Debbie on 12/11/06

A child born to an unbeliever is a child. God allows us all to grow up and make a decision to serve and worship Him. A child or infant is not responsible for his salvation until he/she reaches the age of accountability. Children do not choose to come into this world. If we sin God is faithful to forgive us and cleanse us from all uprightness. We must always understand and know that God is a God of judgment and also a God of Love. He doesnt see things as we do. HE LOVES CHILDREN.
---Dorcas on 12/11/06

What Ryan is saying would cause me to reject the very idea of God as a fabrication of control freaks.
---AlanUKQuent5969 on 12/11/06

Ryan-You make the best argument against original sin I have ever seen. The notion of burnng babies b=urning on a BBQ spit for all eternity is too sick, disgusting to fathom. I wonder how one can praise such a deity who would inflict such a vile fate on his creations. why not worship Hitler or Stalin? They were far, far, less cruel than the God you propose people believe in!

Another question; Is the singing of the angels in heaven louder than the screams of the babes in hell?
---MikeM on 12/11/06

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Ryan, give the scripture reference for your erroneous quote. FIRST OF ALL RYAN, EVERYONE IS BORN INTO SIN. EVERYONE IS BORN A SINNER (Unclean). No one is born as a born again Christian, they don't come out of the womb born again. Give scripture reference for what you are claiming to be the truth. Children born to believers and non-believers are not born again until they accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. Why are you so quick to send children to hell? When someone saw lots of them in heaven.
---Donna9759 on 12/7/06

this is really good...
---alisha on 11/14/06

God is the Judge, Jesus the mediator our defense lawyer if saved the Holy Spirt the 1 we either grieved if we said no or yes & drew us in. It says the Devil walks before God in Job says have U considered or acuses etc. so He will prob. be there as the prosecuter. It says the Saints watch us maybe they will be there who knows, but this I do know- it is between Him & I.
---Jeanne on 11/14/06

I will go with the Word of God on this one. The Word of God says children born to non-believers are unclean and the Word of God says nothing unclean may enter the kingdom of heaven. It is all spelled out in black and white in the Word of God. So, Donna 9759 whoever it is that is making the claims you have stated is a liar because they are not in sync with the Word of God.
---Ryan on 11/14/06

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Donna9759, I asked Father God if what you are saying is true and He replied in the negative. His response is found in His word.
---Ryan on 11/14/06

The truth about Children going to heaven is stated by someone who saw children in heaven, lots of them, even babies who were aborted. This preacher said that when a baby dies on this earth, God receives ALL children and ALL babies, even the aborted ones. So Please ask Father God if what I'm saying is true. Hopefully, your spiritual ears will be open Ryan, and you will hear the truth about this particular situation. STOP reasoning it out Ryan, Helen is correct here.
---Donna9759 on 11/14/06

I believe that God will do what is right. Those who will go to live with Him in heaven will be the right ones, and those who go to hell will deserve to be there. The bible does not tell us where babies will go. But God knows, and he will do the right thing.

If we can't trust God for this, can we trust Him in anything else?
---laure5759 on 11/13/06

Helen 5378, one last thing children of non-believers are unclean, scripture says this (I Corinthians 7:14). Nothing unclean may enter the kingdom of heaven. We are just the pots and the Potter will do with us as He pleases.
---Ryan on 11/13/06

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Jeanne - Hope you found your glasses! :) If I lose mine I'm in big trouble because I can't see to go find them, and I live alone! hehehe.
---Helen_5378 on 11/13/06

#1 Helen 5378, to say there are children that go to hell is completely in line with scripture. We know, for instance, that before Christ the gentile had no hope. Imagine the genrations of gentiles that were born only to go to hell, before the coming of Christ.
---Ryan on 11/13/06

#2 Helen 5378, The act of extending the blood of the Lamb of God to the children of believers is a beautitul and merciful gift that the Father has bestowed upon His elect. Having said that there is a time in a persons life when the Father presents them with the choice of living in obedience to the Lord. It is at that time the the individual must make a choice, what time is that you ask? Only God and the individual know.
---Ryan on 11/13/06

#4 Helen 5378, Why do children have a different set of standards compared to any other human soul? Your statement could easily be compared to this:
"Either all souls go to heaven or none."
Which is obvioulsly rediculous because who are we, the creation, to tell the Creator what is moral, just, fair or any other such concept?
---Ryan on 11/13/06

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Ryan - I strongly disagree with you that the children of unbelievers go to hell. That means that most of the world's children that die go to hell. Either all the children go to heaven, or none go. They cannot make decisions for themselves because they are too young. To say that some children go to hell because of their parents is totally incorrect and inconceivable.
---Helen_5378 on 11/13/06

He knows who will make it we dont go "Surprise God". But I know Bible wise U cant be"Grandfathered in". God is a Father sons/daughters, He does not have grandchildren. I have Native American friends who I love/adore even some of the sweetest people I have had the honor to know.But many tribes NOT all call God Grandfather a term of honor since they honor their elders as we used to as a nation. But as much as I love them it is wrong he is our Father not Grandfather.
---Jeanne on 11/13/06

Maybe Helen meant "set apart" until the age of accountablility because we all know God doesnt send babies to hell. I didnt read all I cant find my glasses!! I give people the benefit of the doubt especially if I cant see! I really enjoy everyone on here even the ones that dont like me/or disagree at least we can have a forum like this and Ameria is still the best country we have much sin but we still have freedom.
---Jeanne on 11/13/06

(1 Corinthians 7:14) Deals with the importance of having a godly mate, a godly parent. I agree with Helen, salvation is personal. Having even one person who is a good godly example in the household is a blessing indeed! Many kids don't have ANY example in their household, both parents are unsaved or lukewarm, it's really heart-breaking. This is why it is so important for God's people to get the PURE Gospel Message of Christ Jesus out to as many as we can! God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/13/06

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(1 Corinthians 7:14) Deals with the importance of having a godly mate, a godly parent. I agree with Helen, salvation is personal. Having even one person who is a good godly example in the household is a blessing indeed! Many kids don't have ANY example in their household, both parents are unsaved or lukewarm, it's really heart-breaking. This is why it is so important for God's people to get the PURE Gospel Message of Christ Jesus out to as many as we can! God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/13/06

#1 Helen 5378, I Corinthians 7:14 does not say children are 'set apart' by the believing parent it specificaly states these children are holy. As people in Corinth were being saved they understandably had concerns and questions about the family dynamic. Being married means you 'become one flesh'. With this understanding of marriage we can see that they were concerned that the unbelieving spouse would defile the marriage relationship.
---Ryan on 11/13/06

#2 Helen 5378,So the Holy Spirit, through Paul, gives the answer that it is not the unbelieving spouse that defiles the marriage bond, it actully works the other way. The Spirit says the marriage is sanctified, not defiled, by the blood of the Lamb of God and that the children, who were unclean, are now holy. So children of belivers are holy and if they die as babies or infants than they go to heaven. And children of non-believers are unclean and if they die as babies or infants they go to hell.
---Ryan on 11/13/06

#3 Helen 5378, now compare this to the story of the passover. We know that Christ is the 'passover lamb'. In Egypt the households of the Nation of Israel were safe because they had the blood of the lamb upon their home. Christian homes are sanctified because they have the blood of the Lamb of God upon their home through the believer. But the blood of the lamb was not placed upon the Egyptians homes so they lost their first borns.
---Ryan on 11/13/06

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Donna9759 - I agree with you. I think maybe you did not understand what I said. The children of a born-again Christian are set-apart i.e. sanctified. 1 Corinthians 7:14 says so. God blesses the child/children of God and the family gets blessed.
---Helen_5378 on 11/13/06

Ryan - You are correct. 1 Corinthians 7:14 clearly says that the unbeliever is "sanctified" by the believer, be it husband or wife or vica versa. Also the children are "made holy" by the fact that one parent is born-again. The blessings given to the child of God flow through to the whole family. It does not mean however that the rest of the family are saved. Salvation is personal.
---Helen_5378 on 11/13/06

I agree with everyone except Helen. No offense Helen, I love you dearly. I cherish you as a sister in the Lord, please know that. But the others have responded according to what the Bible tells us. I've seen children of Pastors who are NOT saved. Sad, but true.
---Donna9759 on 11/13/06

If these are not true statements than why does I Corinthians 7:14 say that there are 'unclean' children and there are 'holy' children?
---Ryan on 11/12/06

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Ryan, We are ALL born in the same condition, "IN SIN", Even if the parents are saved. This is why Jesus came! Godly rearing is so important, God teaches this. We are responsible before God in regard to how we raise our children, when they become of age, they are responsible for themselves before God. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/12/06

All children are born sinners, unbelievers, and in a fallen state of being. We know that for a certainty since all have come short of the glory of God, and must be saved by the name of Jesus in order to enter heaven. Apparently children enjoy a certain period of grace before they're held accountable. Reference here being David speaking of his dead child and the fact that he would go to him. King David did not go to hell.
---mima on 11/12/06

1 No
2 No
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/12/06

The family of a person who is born-again are "set apart" because of the one who is the Christian. This means that the whole family will be blessed because of the believing member. That is immediate family i.e. husband, wife and children. It does not apply to salvation for that is personal.
---Helen_5378 on 11/12/06

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