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What Is Intercessory Prayer

What is your definition of intercessory prayer? Can intercessory prayer be initiated by you and I? Does God ever initiate intercessory prayer?

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Intercessory prayer is definitely done in the name and love of Christ.I believe that the Holy Spirit bring's to mind specific people to pray for. Especially the unsaved. We should be praying for our pastor, our brothers and sisters IN CHRIST, our loved ones, our country, etc. Prayer, especially for others is very powerful in the life of a Christian.
---Cynthia on 8/25/07


Intercessory prayer is when we cannot pray Jesus prays for us.If a Christian is so distraut he cannot pray He takes over and prays for him.
---geraa4757 on 8/25/07


Intercessory prayer is when we take others needs before the throne of God. In words we pray for others. As we are instructed to do. We should and are commanded to pray for others. Jesus intercedes for us in Heaven. You can also read St John chap 17.
---Robyn on 8/24/07


Intercessory prayer is asking God for something on behalf of someone else. We see Moses doing it for the Israelites. We see Jesus doing it many times. Even on the cross he said "father, forgive them". We are told to do it in 1Tim 2:1. In Rom 8:26-27 we see the Holy Spirit does this on our behalf.
This kind of prayer is the most difficult as it would also be a prayer for our enemies.
---john on 8/24/07


Alan of Uk ::I sincerely wish it wern't so.It makes the words Brotherly love so empty & futile.May The shepherd guide & gather you into His flock,brother.
---Emcee on 12/2/06




Emcee ... I know we will never agree with each other on those points.
What I was trying to say is that although I agree more with the other "wing" of Christianity than with the RCC, it is from that other wing that I see the hatred emanating.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 12/1/06


Alan Of UK:: I agree,none of us are perfect.We all transalate the word as we each see it.It is sad that satan caused this Chasm.We are born into a time when Chaos has already taken root.The only source left to us is the word of God.My contention is that we have to accept "ALL" of the teachings & not some.This I am convinced is the RCC,which I so strongly defend.The reason being I see no fault in Jesus's administrative system he left us plus his word he will be with us for all time .
---Emcee on 12/1/06


True intercessary prayer is initiated by God, as we are in the spirit, agreeing with the Spirit, alowing the Spirit to pray through us
Romans 8:26
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express

Also, all good things come from God.
---Christina on 12/1/06


Emcee ... I said " There are also no doubts faults in my own beliefs!"
I meant that " There are also, no doubt, faults in my own beliefs!" which is completely different.
The first part of my response, which was not published said that I did not find that you spread the hatreds.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 12/1/06


AQlan::OOPS forgot to spell check--disagreement---sorry.
---Emcee on 11/30/06




Emcee # 2 As you know I find a lot to criticise the RCC for in doctrine & practice. There are also faults in the teachings of non-RCC churches. There are also no doubts faults in my own beliefs!
On the whole, I find that I am more in line with non-RCC doctrine & practice than with RCC.
But I don't hate the RCC, & I do not see that the RCC hates the non-RC churches
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/30/06


Emcee # 3 What I do find sad is that there are some here, whose doctrines I would tend to support in general, vis-a-vis the RCC, but in spite of my agreement with their views, I just cannot support the way in which they put those views forward.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/30/06


Alan Of UK::I sincerely hope you are not saying that my disaggrement engenders evil.I assure you such thoughts never enter my head as it transgresses the 5 Commandment in my Book of life.Surely You will agree I cannot be held responsible for anothers Thoughts & actions.My beliefs are my own & I stand up to my convictions as you would too.
---Emcee on 11/30/06


Helen: It is very easy to tell what everybody looks to for truth by what they write in their posts here.

You think so? I don't. I have no idea what you look at for truth. That you are a hurt soul I can see. Yes you can tell I'm Catholic, but since your understanding of Catholicism is so warped - you haven't a clue what I look at for truth.
---grace3869 on 11/29/06


Grace3869 - It is very easy to tell what everybody looks to for truth by what they write in their posts here.
---Helen_5378 on 11/29/06


Grace3869 - Ok. What heresy do I proclaim? And what false doctrine do I proclaim? As regards righteousness, I do not have any righteousness of my own - I have the righteousness of Christ.
---Helen_5378 on 11/29/06


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Helen- The difference is Jesus and God's Word. I look to what God's Word says for truth, whereas you look to the RCC and it's supposed authority. Very dangerous to listen to man.

With all due respect how do you know what I look at for truth?
---grace3869 on 11/28/06


Helen- What I do know is that God's Word says in Galatians 5:19-21 that all idolaters and those who teach heresies will not inherit the kingdom of God. -

You teach heresies. Proclaim false doctrine. You are blind to what you do yourself, all in the name of rightiousness.
---grace3869 on 11/28/06


Grace3869 - What I do know is that God's Word says in Galatians 5:19-21 that all idolaters and those who teach heresies will not inherit the kingdom of God. The difference between you and me is not Mary. The difference is Jesus and God's Word. I look to what God's Word says for truth, whereas you look to the RCC and it's supposed authority. Very dangerous to listen to man.
---Helen_5378 on 11/26/06


Helen, What I think is that you and I are never going to agree on Mary. When we get to Heaven,(1st, 2nd or 3rd) God will probably let us know.

The true difference between you and me is that you believe I'm going to hell because I'm Catholic and I believe a merciful Jesus will determine your fate and mine.
---grace3869 on 11/26/06


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Grace3869 - I knew you were joking, that is why I put a :) at the end of mine... just couldn't help telling you about the third heaven!
---Helen_5378 on 11/25/06


Grace3869 - You say Mary is very different in many aspects. Well Mary was a sinner; she called Jesus Lord; she was born-again; she spoke in other tongues as the Spirit gave utterance. Exactly the same as me. So just how do you figure she was different (apart from giving birth to Jesus)? What you do not understand at all is that the calling on Mary's life was very important, but that did not make her different from any other child of God. Ask God.
---Helen_5378 on 11/25/06


Grace3869 - I honestly from the time I got saved just over 8 years ago have never even had a single thought to give Mary any sort of credit or even thought. It is Jesus who is all and all to me and my focus is always on Him. Every single person who is named in Scripture had an important role, but none more important than another in God's eyes.
---Helen_5378 on 11/25/06


helen -Mary was "only His adopted child" too, as you put it. Mary is no different from me.

I'm sorry, I disagree with you. Mary is very different than you in many many respects. You are so obsessed with not giving her any credit, that you actually take away from God too.
---grace3869 on 11/24/06


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Grace3869 - Mary was "only His adopted child" too, as you put it. Mary is no different from me. When God looks at her and me He sees both of us born-again and covered by the Blood of His Son Jesus Christ. Jesus made Mary and He made me. Jesus died on the Cross for Mary and me. God is not a respector of persons.
---Helen_5378 on 11/24/06


Emcee ... I agree that dissention is not evil, but I beleive that the hatreds that it so often engenders, as here, is evil.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/24/06


Emcee ... Are, not is!!
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/24/06


Alan OF UK::I did understand & that is why I said I AGREE.Disagreement fosters dissension some may call it evil I chose not to.
---Emcee on 11/24/06


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Helen - ("He wouldn't of chosen Mary if she could not of remained true to Jesus") -- But He chose me too, and I am not perfect

Yes, Helen, He chose you too - but not to be the mother of his child. There is a difference. You are only his adopted child, Mary is the mother of his real physical child.
---grace3869 on 11/24/06


Wow. Helen!
Which heaven will we go to?
If it is the one beyond outer space it will be mighty big.
Personally I don't regard our Heaven as a physical place. But I don't know how to explain what I do think it is.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/24/06


Helen-Grace3869 - Heaven is way above the clouds. The first heaven is from the surface of the earth to the sky. The second heaven is outer space. Then there is the third heaven. See 2 Corinthians 12:1-4. :)


I was teasing. Lighten up.
---grace3869 on 11/23/06


Grace3869 - ("He wouldn't of chosen Mary if she could not of remained true to Jesus") -- But He chose me too, and I am not perfect. My perfection, so-called, has nothing to do with anything. Salvation is all about the Lord Jesus Christ and being in Him by faith. It is the righteousness of Christ that covers everything. That is for all children of God i.e. those who are truly born-again.
---Helen_5378 on 11/23/06


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Grace3869 - Heaven is way above the clouds. The first heaven is from the surface of the earth to the sky. The second heaven is outer space. Then there is the third heaven. See 2 Corinthians 12:1-4. :)
---Helen_5378 on 11/23/06


Helen-Given that Scripture is totally silent about Mary after the upper room prayer meeting in the Book of Acts, how does anybody know for sure that she really did go to heaven. I mean, what if she backslid and didn't make it?

God doesn't make mistakes. He wouldn't of chosen Mary if she could not of remained true to Jesus.
---grace3869 on 11/23/06


Helen-At least you acknowledge that she is dead. You cannot say that she is alive in Christ to justify saying that she didn't die. Alive in Christ is those who are physically alive too.

That doesn't make sense, if alive in Christ is for those who are physically alive as well ( and I believe that too) then I'm not admitting she's dead. But I don't think Saints in heaven are alive the same way you and I are alive. They'd be too heavy to sit on clouds then. :)
---grace3869 on 11/23/06


Grace3869 - Given that Scripture is totally silent about Mary after the upper room prayer meeting in the Book of Acts, how does anybody know for sure that she really did go to heaven. I mean, what if she backslid and didn't make it?
---Helen_5378 on 11/23/06


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Grace3869 - ("The body dies but the spirit has eternal life" 20/11/06) -- So what you are saying by that is that when you pray to Mary you are praying only to her spirit! At least you acknowledge that she is dead. You cannot say that she is alive in Christ to justify saying that she didn't die. Alive in Christ is those who are physically alive too.
---Helen_5378 on 11/23/06


Emcee You should really be more careful when you read what others say, and particularly when yuo quote them>
I did NOT say "the opposing beleif is evil"
My point was that the hatred between those holding opposing views can never be healed as long as either of the sides says that the other is evil.
I definitely do not think that either side is evil, although when they hate each other the effect is evil.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/22/06


Alan Of Uk::I agree, but they were your words, not intended to damage or set apart but show that the unbridgeable can be bridged & the ref I gave was Gen3;15 showing where the enmity lay in the prophecy. No intent,of disruption on my part please.The Tug-Of-War can be won for Him who came to save us; the choice lies with each one of Mankind.if they but realised.
---Emcee on 11/21/06


Debbie-We don't pray to these people, but rather -- we just ask them or they do it on their own praying TO Jesus, not to Mary.

Catholics ask Mary to pray for them like you would ask a neighbor to pray for you. Some people will say Mary is dead and so you can't ask her to pray for you. But Mary has eternal life because she believes in Jesus so she's not dead.

There may be some prayers that sound worshipful - but in the end they all ask for the same simple thing - for Mary to pray for us.
---Grace3869 on 11/21/06


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Emcee ... I was just trying to explain why most nonRCs don't accept that you can pray to Mary, whilst RCs do. I was not trying to put forward, or destroy, the theology of either view.
It is clearly inevitable that each side will regard the other as misled ... what I want to say is that neither side should call the other evil.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/21/06


Grace:

How do you ask Mary to interceed for you? By praying TO her? Therein lies the problem. JESUS is the only mediator between man and God.

The difference is that we can ask people here on earth to pray to Jesus on our behalf. That is fine. We don't pray to these people, but rather -- we just ask them or they do it on their own praying TO Jesus, not to Mary.

Not sure if you see the difference.

In Peace,
---Debbie on 11/21/06


AlanOf UK:"the opposing belief is evil"Unbridgeable Gulf"You have just cited Genesis 3;15.Alan I would say misguided & the choices people make,in determining truth.Using Bible Passages not understanding.Mary IS alive in Christ Jesus.But the prophecy is being ignored & THAT is a traversity.ENMITY between your offspring & hers.ie Jesus's following which in fact means If you accept Jesus you MUST accept HIS Mother Mary.
---Emcee on 11/20/06


AlanOf UK:"the opposing belief is evil"Unbridgeable Gulf"You have just cited Genesis 3;15.Alan I would say misguided & the choices people make,in determining truth.Using Bible Passages not understanding.Mary IS alive in Christ Jesus.But the prophecy is being ignored & THAT is a traversity.ENMITY between your offspring & hers.ie Jesus's following which in fact means If you accept Jesus you MUST accept HIS Mother Mary.
---Emcee on 11/20/06


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Debbie - but it is very clear that Jesus is our only intercessor.


If Jesus is the "only" intercessor then you shouldn't be asking neighbors or family or anyone else to pray for you. There should be no such thing as intercessory prayer.

The body dies but the spirit has eternal life - so we are not praying to dead people but to people who are alive in Christ.
---grace3869 on 11/20/06


Hey folks, intercessory prayer can be for yourself too. It's not just for others. I have interceded for many hours for other people, but some for myself when I felt I couldn't go on, was devastated and distraught. Through 3 hours of intercessory one night, the Lord saved my life the next day. I had no idea why he told me, "Stay home and intercede tonight." I obeyed, and never asked why, but found out why the next day. I love to pray!
---Donna9759 on 11/20/06


I thank you folks for your answers. It helps my understanding. The bible says that Jesus in heaven interceeds for us. I wondered what that meant.
---Virginia on 11/20/06


Emcee ... the reason is just that most non-RCs believe that Mary is dead. So she can't intercede for them.
It really seem to be an unbridgeable gulf, and as long as any on either side say the opposing belief is evil, there will be no peace.
Bless you, brother, there is not much between us.
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/20/06


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Grace and Emcee:

Why is there a fuss with RCC on this topic?

Bottom line is who you pray TO. Jesus is our only intercessor -- NOT Mary. That is where the "fuss" comes in. You "pray to" Mary to ask HER to incerceed for you. NO WHERE in the bible does it say to pray to Mary, but it is very clear that Jesus is our only intercessor.

Needing Him,
---Debbie on 11/19/06


Emcee: Intercessory prayer is for believers who are currently alive to pray to God, in Jesus name on behalf of someone else. Mary is dead and therefore is unable to intercede for anyone. Praying to Mary is sin, as we are to only pray to God in Jesus name. He is the only one who can intercede to the Father on our behalf. Try reading the New Testament and you will find no mention of praying to Mary, or Mary interceding for us after she died.
---Madison1101 on 11/19/06


If intecessory prayer is an acceptable feature by the few christians as seen below why then is there such a furious Fuss made when Catholics interceed with Mary for intercessions,to Jesus .Its is unexplicable.
---Emcee on 11/19/06


It's interesting how everyone seems to believe in intercessory pray and yet many people condemn Catholics for this same practice.

Some people even believe that Jesus is the intercessory for God and we shouldn't have to have one - we should be able to go directly to God for our troubles.
---grace3869 on 11/19/06


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I had always prayed. One day God called me to intercede for a Ministry. It was much different. So close to God He spoke to me just as Christians talk one to another. Unfortunately the Leaders of the Ministry did not listen, so He closed it down.
---Jan on 11/18/06


God calls some people to be intecessors for others and that is one of their main ministries. We are all told to intercede for others in many different ways. Praying for the sick,peoples needs,or other things,and yes we can initiate intercessory prayer, for all it is doing is going to God in Jesus name for other people. Pray ye one for another and so fulfill the law of love.
---Darlene_1 on 11/18/06


Intercessory prayer is for someone other than yourself.

Of COURSE intercession can be initiated by someone else.

And of COURSE, God might move someone to intercede with him for another.

I don't pretend to know all the sources and motivation of prayer. Does it really matter?
---Jack on 11/18/06


My understanding is that term may apply to Christians who have a strong spiritual walk with God:. Ones such as those meeting such scriptures as "the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much". These people follow principles set by prophets such as Moses, Noah, and of course our saviour, Jesus Christ (Melchizedek). An intercessor is a mediator of sorts. One who understands both sides of an issue and finds common ground on which both can meet. Praise God, Jesus is our common ground.
---mikefl on 11/18/06


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