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Worship God In Spirit

What is your definition of worshiping "God in spirit" as found in this scripture Philippians 3:3,"For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh."

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Donna9759_Those of us that have Experienced the Revealing Spirit of the Holy Ghost know exactly what your saying.
Others will have to get to that point before it can Really be Understood.
But, you did good in explaining.Amen.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/7/08

The true worshippers will worship God in Spirit and in truth. Those who are walking in truth, will worship not in English, but in the Spirit. It's when the flesh is subdued and the Holy Spirit rises up inside of you and you worship from your spirit man, not your mind. It's too hard to explain. I can give the example more than I can explain it.
---Donna9759 on 5/7/08

And your point is?
---Bruce5656 on 11/30/06

Bruce the question asked "What is your definition of worshipping God in Spirit?" The notes from FBN are from scriptural references relating to worship based on Phil 3:3.
---Sam on 11/30/06

You should be aware that notes in bibles are not inspired but are a reflection of the thoughts and views of the editor of that particular publication, Scofield, Thompson, Swaggart etc. You would do well to treat those notes as interesting but not authorative. The problem is that sometimes the notes reflect the personal agenda of the individual mentioned etc.
---Bruce5656 on 11/30/06

In other words, do not be afraid to come to your own conclusions even if they do not agree with the notes. Follow the context and let scripture interpret scripture.

This morning I have referred to a number of commentaries (14) to see what they say Any that offer an explanation of that passage agree. Here are the comments of just three.
---Bruce5656 on 11/30/06

David Guzik says::
Jesus establishes the basis for true worship: it is not of places and trappings, but in spirit and in truth. To worship in spirit means you are concerned with the spiritual realities, not outward sacrifices, cleansings and trappings. To worship in truth means you worship according to the whole council of God's word, especially in light of the New Testament revelation.
---Bruce5656 on 11/30/06

Barton W. Jonson (Peoples New Testament) The time is at hand, says the Lord, when a worship of forms, or at holy places, will not meet the demands of the Father. He must be worshiped with the heart, in spirit and in truth. Spiritual worship can be offered in any land, wherever the soul can humble itself before God.
---Bruce5656 on 11/30/06

John Wesley simply states:Verse 23. The true worshippers shall worship the Father - Not here or there only, but at all times and in all places.

All of the commentators who address the Phil 3:3 either explain the same thing about worshiping in the spirit or refer to the notes on John 4 where they explain it as I have already mentioned.
---Bruce5656 on 11/30/06

I got those scriptures from the notes from
Family Bible Notes Commentary based on Phil. 3:3.
---sam on 11/29/06

*Sam, Your logic seems to be: every instance of "in the spirit" has to do with tongues.*

I didn't get sam's logic either.
---augua9846 on 11/29/06

Your logic seems to be: every instance of "in the spirit" has to do with tongues.

That makes no more sense than if we were to believe that every time the word baptism appears in the NT it means water baptism.

There is nothing I can add to what I said to try to clarify it further so I guess we'll have to leave it at that.
---Bruce5656 on 11/29/06

John 4 is where Jesus says about worshipping in the spirit..or speaking in tongues. In Phil. 3, Paul is warning against false teachers. In verse three, he is describing christians. He talks about them "worshipping God in spirit". Jesus says all who believe will speak in tongues. Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; (Cont)
---sam on 11/28/06

Part II
It also says those who believe shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Does every christian speak in tongues? No. Does every christian lay hands on someone and they get healed? No. Does that mean they aren't It means they aren't walking in the fullness of the power of the Holy Spirit.
---sam on 11/28/06

Part III-
Does every person share the gospel, as Jesus commanded with the Great Commission? No. That doesn't mean they aren't saved. Again, they are not living in the fullness as to what Christ called them to do!
---sam on 11/28/06


First let me say that I believe/practice praying/singing/praising in the Spirit. I have no disagreement with you as to the validity of doing so. Jude 1:20, I Cor 14:15 etc.

The passage in question and the one in John 4 do not refer to this and this is why.
---Bruce5656 on 11/28/06

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The passage in Phil is a definition of what it is to be a Christian. As I have already demonstrated to you from the context, if this is referring to tongues, than Paul would be saying that you cannot be a Christian if you do not speak in tongues.

It does however refer back to Jesus words in John 4. Keep in mind the context of what Jesus was saying.
---Bruce5656 on 11/28/06

He is responding to what the woman said:

John 4:20, "Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship."

His response; the day will come when you will not worship God in this mountain or in Jerusalem but in spirit and in truth.
---Bruce5656 on 11/28/06

He is contrasting having to worship God in a specific place (and time, and ritual) with worshiping God anywhere (independent of time, place or ritual). Again, if Jesus is speaking of tongues, he would be saying that you cannot truly worship God with out tongues.
---Bruce5656 on 11/28/06

Now, if you do not agree with this, please do not just say I am wrong. Please explain why I am wrong.

Explain what is Paul was saying in Phil 3:3 in the context of the book in general.

And please explain what it was Jesus was trying to tell the woman at the well in the context of the whole conversation.
---Bruce5656 on 11/28/06

Read These Insightful Articles About Debt Relief worship God in spirit is to worship without the use of the physical five(flesh) senses.
---earl on 11/27/06

Donna9759, YES, He is awesome, Beyond words! I'm learning every day,and getting stronger every day,and it has nothing to do with my own power. I just decided to yield myself , my mind to God, and closed the case. I know I can depend on God, no matter what, no matter how "I feel". I'm so complete In Him, I could never go back(even though that option is available, Free-Choice)But once you have lost yourself in Jesus,Well you know, Donna! I just want everyone to experience this joy! God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/27/06

(II.)Donna9759, "Isn't Father God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit awesome?". The Holy Trinity is FASCINATING, 3 Individual Persons reigning together in perfect holy accord. God in 3 Person's, Blessed Trinity! Amen. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/27/06

Thank you Mrs Morgan. Sometimes it's very hard for me to explain the things of the Spirit in English. The Holy Spirit has taught me alot and is still revealing things to me even to this day. Isn't Father God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit awesome?
---Donna9759 on 11/27/06

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"I appeal to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. (Ro 12:1)
---augua9846 on 11/26/06

Bruce...John 4 talks about worshipping in spirit...this is praying/singing in tongues.

John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jude 1 also talks about praying in tongues.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
---sam on 11/26/06

Paul is saying:
This is who a true Christian is one who:
a. worship God in the spirit (independent of any form, ritual or place)
b. rejoice in Christ Jesus (and none other)
c. have no confidence in the flesh (no works will save them)

You said that praying in the spirit (tongues) is what is being spoken of.
---Bruce5656 on 11/24/06

I was pointing out to you that this could not be true for if it were, then one could not be considered a Christian unless they:

a. prayed in tongues
b. rejoiced in Christ Jesus
c. had no confidence in the flesh

Do you see the problem with your statement now? If not, what part of what I have written do you not agree with?
---Bruce5656 on 11/24/06

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Absolutely not Bruce. Being able to sing in tongues, or even speak in tongues, has nothing to do with salvation.
---sam on 11/23/06

Donna9759, You said :"...It's when the flesh is subdued and the Holy Spirit rises up inside of you and you worship from your spirit man, not your mind...". Very well put sister! God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 11/23/06

If it is "singing in tongues" then you would have to say that those who do not "sing in tongues" are not saved.

Paul is defining a true Christian in this verse.

Jesus said John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." He was talking about being able to worship God independant of any place, time or ritual. This is what it is to "worship God in the Spirit" in the context of Phil 3:3.
---Bruce5656 on 11/23/06

people who go to church out of compulsion and don't really want to be there. people doing things because they want to feel like they are a good person and not because they want to do those things. that is honouring God will your lips and not your heart. worshiping God which isn't just singing with your spirit is like when the apostales were persecuted and praised God anyway. like Job who praised God in his hardship.
---tony on 11/23/06

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Singing in tongues.
---sam on 11/22/06

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