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Why Is There Sickness

Why do we have to go through sickness and pain?

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While Jesus did heal people physically, He taught that He would heal them spiritually.

We should not "name and claim"
---alan_of_UK on 11/24/08

It is only temporary. There will be none in heaven. Since Adam and Eve's fall into sin, pain and sickness came into the world. But where does it say you have to go through it? Is that what Jesus taught or did He bring healing? I believe in God as my healer not as a disease and pain giver. I refuse the sickness and pain. I pray against it and claim healing in Jesus name. Maybe it doesn't work every time but it works 90% and that's better than nothing.
---john on 11/24/08

"Don't know if you have read the Romans 8 verse that talks of the Earth groaning and travailing waiting for the adoptions of the sons of God. I understand this to go back to where God curse the earth as well because of Adam and Eve sin."

I understand this to go back to before Adam fell and the voice of the Lord God came walking (not talking) in the cool of the day.
---Linda on 5/25/07

Catherine; Amen!
---Frank on 5/24/07

Sometimes it is God's will. Contrary to popular opinions. For a believer, the reasons can be many. To strengthen, To keep you in prayer, To test your faith, cause you to be dependent upon God. Sometimes we do bring sicknesses upon ourselves, however not always. It seems when I got saved, Satan started causeing alot of havoc. Since the doctors saids all tests are okey, I have to warn you, if you are truly saved you better get close to God, Satan wants you dead.
---catherine on 5/24/07

The only good thing about sickness and pain is that they are temporary.

That's not what God wanted for us, but it's the product of man's rebellion against God.

Sin, Death, sickness, and disease are traveling partners and they started their assault in the Garden of Eden. (see Genesis 3) That's right, it's the effect of one little sin.
---Pharisee on 5/24/07

Ok Darlene, you force me to pull out the big guns:>

What's your understanding of the verses below?
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
---TDG on 1/2/07

its a work of the curse that came through Adam's disobedience in the garden of Eden.

God meant for man to be healthy. the devil & Adam's sin twisted health to sickness. Jesus on the cross is our restoration to health, our redemption from sickness.
---JaeR on 12/30/06

TDG yes read the whole Bible several times. You make a good point but I don't believe the curse on the ground of the earth impacts us due to Adams sin. As Christians we are redeemed from the law of sin and death. What we still are is flesh and blood which can catch germs and have sickness. If not, Jesus wouldn't have said pray for the sick. The Bible instructs for elders to lay hands on sick. No, sickness is seldom result of sin,but the result of being human,in a world full of illness that can be caught.
---Darlene_1 on 12/30/06

Darlene_1. Don't know if you have read the Romans 8 verse that talks of the Earth groaning and travailing waiting for the adoptions of the sons of God. I understand this to go back to where God curse the earth as well because of Adam and Eve sin. Nature did not do anything to make Adam sin, but was impacted by Adam's sin.
---TDG on 12/30/06

At 6 months old had pnuemonia, I didn't even know what sin was,let alone do it, yet again at 5 years old I had a Staph infection in my ears which kept me in the hospital 10 days. The Bible tells us God doesn't visit the sins of fathers on children Ezekiel 18:20 The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son. No not all sickness is caused by sin,most is because we are all subject to the laws of nature and are biological creatures.
---Darlene_1 on 12/29/06

The wages or costs of "a person's sin" is death(an end to something). If a person has an affair they opened the door for sickness. If a person wants to stop sinning God gives them grace to stop, but if they won't they are the cause for the sickness, etc.
---Rickey on 12/28/06

Yes, there are good people, christians. Christians aren't sinners, but saints. We, in God's sight, aren't classified as sinners, but sons. If we are classified as sinners then we are classifying God as a sinner & we know He isn't. We are the righteousness of God in Christ.(2Corinthians 5:21)
---Rickey on 12/28/06

alanUKquent64534, Adam sinned otherwise this event would have never happened to the child.
What I want to know is where are the good people spoke of? Everyone I have met have been sinners.
---Elder on 12/28/06

Read Job. God causes us to become afflicted for a reason. Example: you are having an adultress affair and want to stop, but can't, you ask God for help. well he may make you get caught, he may make you very sick, he could make you go blind. He decides what you need, not you.
---discipleabct on 12/28/06

Why bad things happen to good people.Romans 3:23 All have sin and come short of the glory of God. Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Question. Biblically speaking, are there any good people?
---TDG on 12/28/06

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Is sickness is caused by sin? Biblically, Genesis 3 is the best passage. Logically, can you think of another place sickness would come from? So who sinned, the mother or the child? John 9:2-3 who sinned, this man or his parents? Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the work of God might be displayed. It appears that God wants us to know that Sin takes no prisoners and that we trust Him. This is that work of God. John 6:29
---TDG on 12/28/06

I belive a lot of sickness we have is we brought it on our self by miss treating our body's when we were young smoking drinking or what ever the bible says we reap what we sew driveing our self to get a head until we are so stressed out
not eating right God's ways are not our ways his thought are not our thoughts
---Betty on 12/28/06

You need to do a study on why do bad things happen to good people. If you don't know where to find one, let me know will help you out.
---Toby on 12/27/06

Where does this idea come that sickness is caused by sin?
A friend has a child who is disabled because she suffered oxygen starvation at birth, because the baby was born in an awkward position..
So who sinned, the mother or the child?
Where please is the scripture reference justifying these accusations?
---alanUKquent64534 on 12/27/06

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Because of sin. Even though Jesus' blood was shed to eliminate sin, there is still sin in the world. People have a choice to follow God or themselves. Following yourself and your own way leads to sin which leads to sickness.
---Leslie on 12/27/06

Some is sin like smoking, some are the flesh if I jog and fall.It is appointed unto man once to die so there is death. Some are due to old age like Isaac his eyes grew dim he had to feel Esau/Jacob. Jacob/Israel wrestled w/the angel of the Angel of the Lord blessed him but dis jointed his leg/hip & it says he walked w/a limp. The blind man w/the diciples they said Jesus who sinned this man or his parents? Jesus said neither it was for such a time as this.
---Jeanne on 12/15/06

Melinda, I've been thinking about that fried chicken and good ole homemade biscuits. Did your 'Grandma' like black-eyed peas, fried okra, and cornbread with no sugar in it? All of that sounds really good right now. With tea, (no sugar in the tea, either).
---R.A. on 12/14/06

I'm with you R.A. My ex-husband use to be fond of saying that his grandmother finally died from all that fried chicken and lard bisquits she refused to give up. She was 93.
---Melinda on 12/8/06

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Have you heard about G. Johnson, Sausage Man? He passed away yesterday, he was 112 years old. He lived on sausages and waffles. Thought to be one of CA's oldest. They said his internal organs were clean as a whistle and about the age of a 55 year old.
---R.A. on 12/8/06

God cannot keep people from getting sick, He isn't the god of this world(the earth). Sickness has been allowed in by Adam's fall. Before his fall he was god of this world. But Jesus has already paid for the price for our healing. My point was that sickness isn't from God & that He doesn't glory or delight in His kids being sick. He delight in us prospering and being in health.(3rd John 2; 1Peter 2:24)
---Rick on 12/6/06

"..we eat butter which shouldnt be eaten"

man, why did Jesus eat butter if we aren't supposed to eat it? Why did Abraham and the angels eat it?

"God said the fat is mine"

Do you perform animal sacrifices? Just wondering because according to the law of Moses, the fat from a sin offering was to be burned upon the altar. Since you said the fat belongs to God, do you observe this old covenant practice?
---Kay on 12/6/06

"..we shouldnt be eating unclean foods that God listed out in Leviticus"

man, theres nothing wrong with those ceremonially "unclean" foods. They weren't actually unhealthy, just ritually "unclean".

---Kay on 12/6/06

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If God is powerful enough to heal why doesn't He keep people from getting sick in the first place?
Rickey to answer you, the God I love and serve I also trust. I trust Him to bring glory to his name if I am sick, robbed or morning the loss of my sister.
I am sorry for you and Dory who have a Vegas Slot machine god.
Anyone can serve God when everything is going fine. It is when the battle is on that we find out who people really are. You both need to read Psm 23 again.
---Elder on 12/6/06

Some sickness is from the devil, others is just aging it is appointed unto man once to die like Isaac his eyes grew dim not from sin he was old. Israel wrestled with God and had a limp all his life not from the Devil. Other things we cause thru the flesh. If I overwork my body and cause a strain or a break the devil did not do it I did it.
---Jeanne on 12/6/06

we go thru sick and pain becos we are not careful with our diet. we do it to ourselves. We have so much preservatives in our foods, artificial stuff etc etc that God didnt give us to eat. we eat butter which shouldnt be eaten, God said the fat is mine..we shouldnt be eating unclean foods that God listed out in Leviticus..we do it to ourselves...and too much take aways...
---man on 12/6/06

Melinda, suffering and sickness are 2-different things. Suffering is persecution. We, as christians, where Christ's Name. Because of that we do/will suffer persecution. Scripturally, you can find no place where God puts sickness on folks for His glory. God's love is so awesome.
My #1 question is why is healing such a debate in the body of Christ? Nonbelievers will believe God quickly for healing while some christians won't. The bible says," In righteousness you shall be established."
---Rickey on 12/5/06

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When a believer recognizes that "in righteousness" or "right-standing & equality with/not too" God they have a right to be healed they will triumph over sickness. The word speaks for itself(1Peter 2:24) God doesn't need any of us in heaven. He needs us here to preach the gospel(good news).
---Rickey on 12/5/06

PLEASE PEOPLE! Sickness is a result of sin. Elder is right about the "law". God does not make people sick, nor does He always heal them now. Christ made it pretty clear that we can expect these things. He never said that we didn't have to suffer if we had enough faith. Remember, we are not of this world, we are just passing through, and if we happen to pick up the latest virus on our journey, we may just have to wait until we get home to see the doctor.
---Melinda on 12/5/06

To continue: Sickness is the same as any other thing we might "suffer" on this Earth. Trials, tribulations, pain, death, financial problems, heartbreak, etc. God heals some for His glory, some suffer and are made more Christ-like because of it, some suffer and in turn are able to help others through the same suffering. Again, Christ never said we didn't have to suffer. The point is GOD HEALS, the where and when are up to Him, not us. 'nuff said.
---Melinda on 12/5/06

Rickey, God put the curse that the world is in. He did it. He has a plan Rickey, and He is just in all He does. For He is Holy and right all the time even when we cannot understand why. People get sick because of the curse. The body will decay, and it will die. The miracles that Jesus did were not because He didn't glory in sickness, they were made to authenticate He was Christ, the Messiah. They had a purpose even the death of Lazuras had a purpose. Jesus allowed him to die.
---lisa on 12/5/06

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2. Jesus even waited two more days after He was told of Lazuras condition. It wasn't done because he felt sorry for Lazuras. Sure He loved Lazuras but Jesus had another reason, Jesus said, " This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified through it." Christ thinks of us in the long haul, not for the moment. His gets glory out of the us when we believe in what He does. Elder is perfectly correct.
---lisa on 12/5/06

Jesus showed that neither the man or his parents sinned causing him to be sick. He showed that even though the man was sick God was going to be glorified through his healing. It shows again that God doesn't glory in sickness & if God put the sickness on him He couldn't take it off because when God speaks a word it is settled in heaven(Isaiah 55:11)
---Rickey on 12/4/06

Elder, I want to ask you a simple question. Would you serve a God who put sickness on you? Could you love a God who puts sickness on folks? Honestly, I couldn't. If love is where sickness is put on me then I don't want it. My point is that sickness isn't from God. When folks believe that sickness is from Him then it is impossible for them to be healed.(Hebrews 11:6)
---Rickey on 12/4/06

Without faith it is impossible to please God. So if a person believes that God put the sickness on them their faith won't be in getting healed. In 2Corinthians 4:4 it talks about satan, the god of this world, blinding the minds of unbelievers. Him blinding their eyes is the reason they don't believe. Same applies to many christians.
---Rickey on 12/4/06

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He, satan, has lied to them that God put sickness on them to glorify Himself through it or that it isn't God's will for them to be healed. Because of their eyes being blinded they can't see the truth in 1Peter 2:24 & Isaiah 53:4-5. Satan is a liar and "the father of lies".(John 8:44)
---Rickey on 12/4/06

It is so so true that faith is required for healing. Take the woman with the issue of blood for instance. Jesus told her that "her faith made her whole". It said nothing about Jesus' faith. He didn't even know who had touched Him. God requires us to use our faith to obtain what He has promised in His word.(Hebrews 11:6) He did the hard part in Isaiah 53:4-5 & 1Peter 2:24.
---Rickey on 12/4/06

Elder -
2Corinthians 12:10 - Therefore I am pleased in weaknesses, in insults, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake; for when I am weak, then I am powerful.

This is Paul describing his "thorn in the flesh." I don't sickness in this passage anywhere. I see persecution. Neither do I see God telling Paul to put up with this thorn.

When God's perfect strength and power comes on the scene, things change.
---DoryLory on 12/4/06

Amen Rickey!! You packed alot into five short posts and you did good! God received glory when the blind man was healed ... not when he was born blind. God would have to be schizophrenic to say, "I am the Lord who heals you" and then turn around and want people sick. Sickness is a result of the fall. It comes from Satan, not God.
---DoryLory on 12/4/06

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Perhaps you would explain to us what Jesus meant when he said: John 9:3, "Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him."
---Bruce5656 on 12/4/06

Come on Rickey don't make excuses now. All sickness is a result of the curse of sin not a product of the curse of the law.
The Law is/was our taskmaster/teacher that tells and proves man can do nothing to save himself.
All sickness, death and like things are a result of Adam's sin.
Paul said he would glory in his infirmity but you say that if someone exercises enough faith it will go away. What was Paul's problem?
---Elder on 12/3/06

By the way Rickey you didn't see me say God put blindness on the one born that way. It also was a result of Adam's weakness but it was used to show God's strength.
It is Adam's sin v/s God's redeeming power.
---Elder on 12/3/06

greetings.Many believe that the world was once perfect and that the pains of living we experience today are a result of punishment by ancestors long ago transfered throughout the ages up to and throughout the future of mankind.And there are similiar parallel doctrines on this subject who people keep alive through their ignorance of knowing who The Father's nature and personality is.We live on inmatured real estate and we are equally an inmatured people.remember he said "birth pains"
---earl on 12/3/06

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Exellent Rickey.
---Linda6563 on 12/3/06

That is a very good witness of faith at work.
Your explanations are sound biblical too.
---Nana on 12/3/06

Elder I see what you are saying, but if a person reads the context about the man born blind & think that God put sickness on him so that He, God, could be glorified then it does no good to believe what the word says. The man wasn't born blind because God put blindness on him; it was a product of the curse of the law.
---Rickey on 12/2/06

When I was 11yrs. old my liver & kidneys shut down, I had epilepsy, chron's disease at 9yrs old; but God didn't put sickness on me so that He would be glorified through my healing. My family prayed the prayer of faith & I was completely healed. If was the one to have put the sickness on me, then He "would not" have had the permission to heal me. If He had put the sickness on me then the "prayer of faith" would not have done any good. God doesn't glory in anyone being sick.
---Rickey on 12/2/06

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Tooth filling, death, etc. is just part of the curse on the earth. When Adam fell he opened the door for sickness, poverty, & spiritual death. Jesus came to bring us "zoe" the God-kind of life(John 10:10)
Satan comes to still(bring poverty), kill(sickness, disasters, etc), and destroy(eternal damnation). When a person says that God put sickness on someone it is just like putting God in satan's class. God is the good God.
---Rickey on 12/2/06

I agree with John. We as believers have to operate in faith. God doesn't put sickness on His kids. If putting sickness on folks is the "God-kind of love" then would you want it? Love never fails; He always does what His word promises. He is entitled to do what His word says. He has made a covenant with Himself to do so.
---Rickey on 12/2/06

We, as christians, have a right to be healed, BUT it is UPTO US NOT GOD to be healed. God is no respector of persons. If He healed me when I was 11 w/ liver and kidney failure, epilepsy, & chron's disease then He will do the same for you. I challenge you to stand on 1Peter 2:24 & Psalms 103:3 for healing. Your faith for healing comes by your hearing of the word of God.(Romans 10:17)
---Rickey on 12/2/06

The woman with issue of blood is a prime example of "faith coming by hearing". She KEPT SAYING TO HERSELF, " If I only touch His garments, I shall be restored to health." She kept speaking in faith even when doubt would come up. We have the ability that we need to stand on the word on the inside of us. We just need to stand on the word being fully persuaded.

---Rickey on 12/2/06

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tomaa. Sickness makes you more like Jesus? Where do you ever see that in the Bible? Jesus didn't go around bringing sickness and pain, he came to heal the sick not make the whole sick.
Brothers and sisters, quit making lame excuses for the sickness and pain you are suffering and seek to be healed and delivered. Run and call to Jesus as so many did and went away whole.
---john on 12/1/06

Rickey if you have one tooth filling in your head or you know someone who has died then that makes all your statements have no meaning.
The Man born blind was born that way so the glory of the Lord could be seen.
We learn to glory in the Lord in pain and suffering, trials and tribulations.
Your well being (as you think it to be) is up to God for His divine purpose.
---Elder on 12/1/06

If Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law why do women still have pain in childbirth and why do weeds still grow to choke out the good plants? God said to Adam and Eve that these things would happen and they STILL happen.
---m.p.a. on 12/1/06

Jesus Christ went through much pain and suffering on the cross, but as we suffer with Him, we also share in His glory too, Halleljuah!
---Jose on 11/30/06

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Jesus said that the Kingdom suffers violence, but the violent take it by force.

Rickey I very much agree, but the context of that verse is salvation, (the people went out to see John because he had the words of the Kingdom) and people who laid hold of that by works of faith as John did. It's never our works or faith that does anything, but rather God's response to our faith.

God does business with people who mean business, and that is only true because our works follow what we believe.
---Pharisee on 11/30/06

For the same God who said "I change not" said "I - will show mercy on whom I will show mercy."

We err if we believe God won't allow sickness, there is sickness that won't kill you, and suffering that produces patience, God doesn't always look at sickness as a loss, sometimes it produces in a person exactly what will bring them to him and THAT IS A GREATER ACT OF LOVE than healing someone and watching them go to Hell at the end of their life.

Are we thinking like God yet?
---Pharisee on 11/30/06

Jesus took upon Himself our sickness and pain and sorrows. He took on all the abuses we suffer. The crown of thorns was the mental abuse. The beating he got before they took him off to Calvary was Him taking on our physical abuses. The mocking He got was verbal abuse. The stripping of the garments was sexual abuse. So when this stuff comes on us, we need to take authority over it in Jesus name because ALL things are subject to the name of Jesus, they must leave us in Jesus name.
---Donna9759 on 11/30/06

" Sickness and pain have deep meaning, they make you more Christ-like..."

If that is the case, then I know some people who ought to be so Christ-like it would be hard to tell them apart from Jesus Himself. If sickness and pain is to make us more Christlike, then why did God raise Jesus, who had identified fully with fallen humanity, out of sin, sickness, death, and the grave?
---Linda6563 on 11/30/06

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You don't have to go through sickness. The bible says that Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. The curse of the law is sickness, poverty, & spiritual death. IPeter 2:24 tells us that ..."ye were healed". Christ already paid for our healing & all we have to do is lay hold of it by faith.
---Rickey on 11/30/06

The promises of God are yes and amen(so be it). For healing it takes "your" faith(Hebrews 11:6); the renewing of "your" mind(Romans 12:2; Proverbs 4:23); the confession of "your" mouth(Mark 11:23; Job 22:28; Proverbs 18:20-21)
---Rickey on 11/30/06

My point in saying that is that God has already done His part(Isaiah 53:4-5; 1Peter 2:24). He sealed it in His word. Now it is up to us, as believers, to do our own part; putting our faith to work.(James 2:26)
---Rickey on 11/30/06

As far as pain is concerned. You have to be a P.I.M.P.;
In the
Midst of
(Acts 16:25-26)
I know it ain't easy; I'll be honest with you sometimes I didn't praise God, but complained. Still, that doesn't change God or His word.(Malachi 3:6)
---Rickey on 11/30/06

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Jesus said that the Kingdom suffers violence, but the violent take it by force. As christians we have to have the tenacity & persistance to lay hold on what the word says is ours'. The key to it is faith and it comes by hearing (Romans 10:17;Joshua 1:8; Romans 12:2; 2Timothy 2:15)
---Rickey on 11/30/06

Sickness and pain have deep meaning, they make you more Christ-like...
---tomaa5399 on 11/30/06

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