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Muslim Congressman And Koran

Can a Muslim man who is about to be sworn in as a congressman of our country which promotes freedom of religion place his hand on the Koran to plege to uphold our constitution when the Koran promotes killing infidels?

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All pray to the same God.

Three of the world's major religions -- the monotheist traditions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam -- were all born in the Middle East and are all inextricably linked to one another. Christianity was born from within the Jewish tradition, and Islam developed from both Christianity and Judaism.
---Sheila on 12/8/07


Hey, we get what we vote for.....
---Elder on 8/24/07


In Matthew 5, Jesus said never to swear at all (make an oath or take a vow), but let your word be enough. According to Jesus, requiring an oath or a vow means something's wrong.

Since that goes ignored, doesn't it mean more for someone to swear on something they believe instead of on something they don't? Anyone can lie if they're swearing on something that means nothing to them.

And isn't freedom of religion one of the principles this country was built upon and what we fight to protect?
---AlwaysOn on 1/5/07


Not everyone in America is Christian and people need to respect people with other religions and not discriminate. This country is NOT a theocracy.
---Katie on 1/5/07


I realize that simple facts mean nothing to many on these blogs, but the SIMPLE FACT is that in the OFFICIAL swearing-in of the House, it's a mass event and NOTHING is ever used to be sworn upon--Bible, Gospel, Tenakh, Upanishads, Koran, prayer book--unless the individual representative brings it.

The next day's "swearing-in" is more a photo-op session than anything else.

May I remind people that the Constitution says that NO religious test shall be required to hold office.
---Jack on 1/5/07




A famos song writer once wrote:
"everytjhing must change, nothing and no one stays the same"
The distengished gentalman from Minnesota is a man of of high standreds and what we call Amarican morals. His religion may be Islamic,but he is truely American.
---Thomas on 1/5/07


Christian need to make a stand for whats right, and Koran is not right when we take the Bible out of are congress what, are the leaders of this place going to base are freedom on..one nation under GOD not under KORAN ..
---molly on 1/4/07


Christian need to make a stand for whats right, and Koran is not right when we take the Bible out of are congress what, are the leaders of this place going to base are freedom on..one nation under GOD not under KORAN ..
---molly on 1/4/07


Take God out of the government. Why? Because there are individuals that have shouted long and loud about what there rights are. We as Christians need to start shouting even louder. This country was founded on God and the Bible, Our for fathers used the bible to write the laws of this land. What happen to those God fearing men? What happen to our voices, hear my voice, I as a God loving woman want to voice my right to have God in my every thing, including my government, my schools, and oath to my flag.
---jane on 1/4/07


What I dont understand is that everybody is in an uproar that a muslim man swore in on a koran. It upsets me more that a non christian man will sware an oath on the bible. Also our country hasn't been held to christrian values in decades why get upset now, because of 911 or the fact that we are fighting in the middle east are we to be that hipocritical. That mans testimony is that of he is willing to face persecution for his beliefs are you willing to take persecution for yours.
---ben on 1/4/07




** If U live in that country, run for office in that country and win U should withhold the traditions of that country.**

"Withhold" means to take away. "Uphold" means to support.

The Bible might be part of our cultural traditions but not part of our legal traditions.

And PLEASE write like an adult: "you" not "U".
---Jack on 12/6/06


Thank You all!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/6/06


"This is not the official swearing in. That happens the day before, and nothing is used at that time: Bible, Koran, or Book for Morons."-Jack

Book for MORONS?
---Kay on 12/6/06


"I would point out in the OT that the Bible talks about the killing of infidels and witches, too, so there's really no room to complain in that regard."

Jack, those infidels mentioned in the Quran are the followers of Jesus Christ. *WE* are those infidels.
---Kay on 12/6/06


no you are to represent the views of those that elect you. there is a difference. we aren't communists we are a republic (sort of haven't been for several decades but we started as one)
---Jared on 12/5/06


If U live in that country, run for office in that country and win U should withhold the traditions of that country.
---Jeanne on 12/5/06


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in our country we have freedom to worship however and/or whoever we want. i think it is fine for someone to use their religious convictions to influence their decisionmaking process and would question their faith if they say they don't. your religious convictions part of who you are. If a muslim would be elected they should push for greater freedom of faith, but if they push too hard and forget the Freedom of all worship then they probably won't get reelected. same goes for every religious group.
---Jared on 12/5/06


Richard nixon was not a morman there has been no president from the morman's. Unfortuanatly Nixon was from the Friends church (one of the only QUaker presidents which is sad since he didnt' much display quaker faith and tradition at all) But please don't hold Nixon's shortcoming against the church he grew up in.
---Jared on 12/4/06


**In light of todays war on terror, maybe the law prohibitting certain foreign 'nationalized' citizens from holding the offfice of U.S. President, other National Security or high ranking local to federal offices should apply in a case like this.**

This particular representative (whose name escapes me) is a native born citizen of the USA and converted to Islam in college. His religion does NOT disqualify him from any office under the Constitution, including the Presidency.
---Jack on 12/4/06


Bob, Nixon was a member of teh Society of Friends - The Quakers.
---randy on 12/4/06


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Former president Richard M. Nixon was a Quaker.
---mima on 12/4/06


** If I'm not mistaken, former U.S Pesident Richard M. Nixon was a Mormon,**

You are mistaken, Bob. Nixon was raised a Quaker, but he didn't seem to be anything much but "culturally religious" when he was President.

The constitution only forbids the Presidency to naturalized citizens. All other offices (except possibly VP) are open to them. And there is NO religious test required.
---Jack on 12/4/06


If I'm not mistaken, former U.S Pesident Richard M. Nixon was a Mormon, as is present senator U. Hatch. In light of todays war on terror, maybe the law prohibitting certain foreign 'nationalized' citizens from holding the offfice of U.S. President, other National Security or high ranking local to federal offices should apply in a case like this. Enough problems with visitors/sympathizers with "communists" or other U.S. enemies in government already!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/4/06


MikeM, excellent point. I was just thinking that some are adverse to anything that in their opinion is not scripturally based. I do have concerns that for Muslims the Sharia law is the ultimate expression of law and they want it to rule their nations. Muslims are only tolerant as long as they are in the minority. I have lived in three Muslim countries and this is always the case.
---randy on 12/4/06


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I dont' have a problem with mormans holding public office, I disagree with their views almost as much as I disagree with an athiest but we must remember that there are alot of mormons in this country. and Utah was founded by Morman settlers. It would be odd if there weren't at least 3 mormons in some public office.
---Jared on 12/3/06


Randy can you be specific on what 'Christian thought' is and how it should be applied when it comes to holding public office? What you will run against if you do is the constitution, which makes is clear ones religion does not matter when it comes to public office.
---MikeM on 12/3/06


My understanding is that all newly elected incoming legislators merely ceremonisly hold up their right hands to swear/affirm their allegience to America & what it stands for as a group [good question today for some]. Then in individual private ceremonies with speaker Pelosi & their fanilies, can swear on any book they choose/BELIEVE IN [DUH]. Now that's voting for a real change of direction!
---bob9565_[Echad] on 12/3/06


This is not the official swearing in. That happens the day before, and nothing is used at that time: Bible, Koran, or Book for Morons.

This occasion which he would like with the Koran, is when his photo is taken with his family, friends, and supporters.

I would point out in the OT that the Bible talks about the killing of infidels and witches, too, so there's really no room to complain in that regard.
---Jack on 12/3/06


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Elder: Amen. May God help us!
---jerry6593 on 12/3/06


Just kind of curious, is it any better to have a Mormon elected than a Muslim? We have lots of them and there doesnt seem to be much of an uproar over that. Both religions are not compatible with Christian thought.
---randy on 12/3/06


You don't have to sware on anything, you just have to afferm that you will do your duty. (it's in the constitution thanks to the Quakers)
---Jared on 12/2/06


Here's a better one yet. How can ANY nation that bans prayer from school, removes the 10 commandments from public buildings, and segregates Christian holidays while allows pagan ones in schools get away with even showing a religious icon (Bible, Koran, etc) in such a national event? I know, it is used to disrespect what it stands for by swearing over it... and we all let it happen.
---mikefl on 12/2/06


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the constitution says NO RELIGIOUS TEST SHALL BE REQUIRED While he can swear on the Koran by law does that man he should?
---MikeM on 12/2/06


We are told not to make oaths but to "Let our yes be yes and our no be no." So the entire concept of swearing an oath on the bible is unbiblical to begin with. Personally I don't swear oaths and I don't care if they swear an oath over a bible a koran or a dictionary the U.S.A. is a perverse and secular nation.
---Ryan on 12/1/06


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