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Christmas Or Resurrection Better

Ecclesiastes 7:1 states the day of death is better than one's birth. Is it more logical to celebrate Christmas or the day of the resurrection?

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Why did the angels sing Halleluyah to the shepherds?
Without the bith, there would have been no resurrection.
Why can't we celebrate both
---AlanUKquent5969 on 7/26/07


The day of death is for believer's in Christ/Messias alone, going to hell is nothing to look forward to! The ressurection has to be #1, cp I Cor.15:35-49,50-58. From what I've read with all due respect, Christmas was around long before Christ's ressurection. In addition, Antiochus Epiphanes created sacrilidge in The Jewish Temples Holy of Holies on Dec.25. The dates may be a coincidence.
---bob6749[Elishama] on 12/9/06


**Jack: I will have to get back to you on who instituted which celebrations after finals next week. In the meantime, I do believe I asked people to research it for themselves.**

In other words, YOU have not yet researched this issue for yourself and you're just popping off with NO EVIDENCE to support your assertion.
---Jack on 12/9/06


Also, please be more careful when you read. I never said that celebrating Christmas was wrong. I never said anything regarding any celebration of Christ's life as being "forbidden". And I never said that Jesus said we "must celebrate his death".
---Melinda on 12/8/06


Bob- I agree. As important as hi birth is, anbd as wonderful his resurection is, neither would have any meaning if not for his death. Thats why Jesus likes for us to take commumnion, and be babtised, because it all points to his death, which is the most important event in all of history.
---craige on 12/8/06




Bob, to answer your question. Jesus tells us to remember His broken body and spilled blood in Luke 22:19-20. That is His death, and we are to remember what the breaking of His body and the spilling of His blood did for us.
Jack: I will have to get back to you on who instituted which celebrations after finals next week. In the meantime, I do believe I asked people to research it for themselves.
We are brothers and sister in Christ and all equally important to His body. I love you.
---Melinda on 12/7/06


This bob6749, has to leave you all for awhile. Other "bob"(?), enjoy yourself.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/6/06


Sense Resurrection is a new lease on life. And neither Christmas or Resurrection applies to Ecclesiastes 7:1 Both Christmas and Resurrection are celebrating the first and second life of Christ. And you can't have a resurrection with out having a birth so the question is devoid of meaning.
---notlaw99 on 12/6/06


I agree with Alan. We can celebrate both if it glorifies God. Commercialization of these holidays by most shoul be avoided however. On Christmas, before we open gifts, we sing happy birthday to Jesus, have bible reading and prayer. Kids have asked why they get gifts on xmas, and I reply Jesus loved us SO much He gave his life for us, His heart is a giving heart, and remember that all good things come from Him. The gifts we give are simple, and the children are truly grateful.
---Christina on 12/6/06


Melinda truly, I didnt know that and where does that say Jesus said we must celebrate His death? this is getting very interesting...
---bob on 12/5/06




** Bob, you are correct. No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrate Christ's birth or resurrection.**

Can you tell us where the Bible forbids it?

** I think if you will research it, you will find that most "Christian" holidays were started by Emperors who were converted and wanted a celebration to offset the pagan celebrations.**

Speaking as one who HAS done a lot of research into Christian worship and its history, you are incorrect.
---Jack on 12/5/06


**I think if you will research it, you will find that most "Christian" holidays were started by Emperors who were converted and wanted a celebration to offset the pagan celebrations. **

Melinda, please, on the basis of your research, tell us WHAT Emperor instituted each feast, WHEN, and the corresponding pagan precedent:

14 September: Holy Cross Day

6 December: Nicholas, Bishop of Myra

6 January: Epiphany/Theophany
---Jack on 12/5/06


Part II, Challenge to Melinda:

Variable: Pascha (Resurrection)

40 days later: Ascension

10 days later: Pentecost

29 June: Apostles Peter and Paul

6 August: Transfiguration

15 August: Repose of the Virgin Mary

What Emperor instituted these feasts, when, and to replace what pagan celebration, if you please.
---Jack on 12/5/06


Melinda::Jesus reminded us to remember alot of things from His conception Till his ressurection; but people Pick & chose .We reenact His life to keep alive in us ALL that He has instructed not here & there like patches of sparse grass,lest we become a desert& barren.
---Emcee on 12/5/06


But it isn't wrong. that's the point. Celebraion encourages spiritual life, and it allows greater bible teaching. I am from a church that removed all celebration and now it is coming back in. it is nice to be free to celebrate what we want, yet we've lost some pretty good traditions. Especially in teaching church history. (which is the main point of the Saint days.)
---Jared on 12/5/06


Bob, you are correct. No where in the Bible does it tell us to celebrate Christ's birth or resurrection. I think if you will research it, you will find that most "Christian" holidays were started by Emperors who were converted and wanted a celebration to offset the pagan celebrations. Christmas is a "tradition". The important part here is to remember WHAT we are celebrating. But as far as this blog in particular goes, Christ instructed us to "remember" his death only.
---Melinda on 12/5/06


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I think it is good to celebrate both. I was pretty excited about the birth of my son, and you know I think it's just fine to be excited about Jesus birth too. And i hold the day my sister died in rememberence which I also do for christ. (not that I beileve that my son and sister are divine) But why do we do less for God than we do for man. and Don't tell me you aren't excited for the birth of your children because I know better.
---Jared on 12/5/06


The bible never ever said we celebration His resurrection and birth...where in the bible is it if any please...I am surprised?
---bob on 12/5/06


First off Christ-mas(s) is not celebrating Christ's birthday. In actuality they do not know when he was born most informed scholars lean towards mid April. Communion is remembrance of Jesus's death, and then his resurrection is deserving of celebration.
---mima on 12/4/06


In Eastern Christianity, Pascha (what Prots call "Easter") is the Feast of Feasts that stands outside the cycle and ranking.

Nativity is acutually below Theophany (Baptism of Christ and Revelation of the Trinity) on 6 January.
---Jack on 12/4/06


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I vote for Easter. Oh I want to be in THAT number...
---mikefl on 12/4/06


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