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Living By Faith Or With Money

My church is having a debate: "living by faith" or "living with money". I live by faith but I happen to be debating the opposite. Could you help by giving me good topics for living with money but without faith?

Moderator - The amount of money one has no relationship to one's faith. One could be either poor or rich and have faith.

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James 2:17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.James 2:18Yea, a man may say"Thou hast faith, & I have works." Show me thy faith apart from thy works,and I will show thee my faith by my works.James 2:21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?James 2:22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works,and by works faith was made perfect?James 2:24Ye see then how by works a man is justified,and not by faith only.
---Lisa on 8/4/07

I would begin with 2 columns. Then list the things in each having to do with faith vs money. Then determine why one would be more important than the other. Just remember. In the world of faith vs money, God doesn't collect His rent at the end of the month. Which "debt" do you want paid up when you die?
---mikefl on 7/23/07

JOHN- I didnt say that, I simply said "that not many" would enter. How much money you have or dont have has no bearing on Gods acceptance of you. I've had- I've been without. Im a child of God either way. However it doesnt change the scriptural truth that "not many rich" will enter.
---craige on 12/25/06

Craig. If we get the riches because we lived by faith and gave abundantly in the first place then these are blesings from God that we shouldn't ridicule others for having. He that sows bountifully will reap the same so when we see rich people that doesn't mean they are on the way to hell.
---john on 12/25/06

I have been living by faith for years, and have not done without the things I need. God is faithful. All christians seem to think they are supposed to be rich these days, but scripture teaches that "not many rich and not many wise" will enter heaven. Money may solve a temporary problem, but in the end "without faith it is impossible to please God". I'd rather get to heaven broke than go to hell with full pockets.
---craige on 12/24/06

hannah,the only way would actually not be a debate,unless you went it to it solely playing the part of a non believer,living deep wiithin the worlds standards and measures for a lifestyle controlled by the flesh.only a lost soul would debate faith and money.thers no comparison ,unless your lost.then faith means nothing to you only your fleshly wordly needs.
---tom2 on 12/22/06

I live by faith. There have been many many times when I was short on money or had no more to pay a bill or buy food, and the Lord has always supplied for my needs and that of my children. Many times an unexpected check has arrived in my mailbox, or money has also just been found and no one claimed it. God is my Provider at all times in my life. Real faith is believing without seeing Matt 8:5-13
---Julea5498 on 12/14/06

It's so easy today to live on credit cards and not allow God to do what He does best, take care of His children. Too often we live our lives like we don't need God. Casting our cares on Him, means that we cast ALL of them and not try and hang onto the ones that we think we can fix. We short change ourselves and God when we do not rely on faith. We miss getting those blessings that God has for us, if only we will step out in faith and believe that He really loves us enough to provide for us. Dana9769
---Dana on 12/13/06

When I was single and short on cash, I went for a walk around the high school track. Forty dollars blew against the wrought-iron fence. No one was around. I knew it was for me.
It happened again last summer. I gave all my cash to my sister before she boarded a plane to go back home. I went to the grocery store, as I opened my car door and put my feet on the pavement, forty dollars blew right to my feet. Yes, Jack, faith does pay for groceries at the store.

---anonymous on 12/13/06

I have lived by faith at times, totally. I have made decisions based on what God told me to do without the means financially and otherwise, knowing from him that he would supply. And he has. I learned that we can say all we want about living by faith but actually doing it is a whole different ball game. I would say faith has different measures that are increased as we are exercised in it.
---Buttons on 12/13/06

People only have faith when they're paycheck is in their hand, or in their bank. But in the middle of the month or at the end, they don't know the word faith. so therefore their faith lies in money, not in God. I is a shame that some people have more faith in man than in God. I try to keep the faith, at times it is hard. but God always shows and gives me a way out.
---Rebecca_D on 12/13/06

Has anyone here had the experience of faith being accepted as payment at the grocery store or utility companies?
---Jack on 12/7/06

Living by Faith and with money has little to do with one another. All Christians live by faith, even weak ones. Some do better than others in trusting Christ to meet needs.
You will find that those who have money are normally those who have the gift of giving also. They may not exercise it but they normally have it.
You cannot determine your spiritually by what you have or don't have.
The issue is not what you have but what has you.
---Elder on 12/7/06

Sorry, can't help you their. Faith supercedes all worldly things.
---Ryan on 12/6/06

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