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Scripture Against Christmas Trees

Is there scripture about not using a Christmas Tree. Or any evergreen in worship for our Lord Jesus,or God.

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"It implies the Holy Spirit has withheld his wisdom for 2000 years, only to reveal it to one person today."
---StrongAxe on 1/1/10

Isnt that how every cult is started? But who in a cult actually believes they are in a cult...

What I love the most is that people are so unhappy with the message the Bible brings that they have to go digging for "mistranslations" so that the verses that contradict what they want to believe fit again. Why not just rewrite the Bible for each denomination? Good grief.

Every puzzle has pieces that dont seem to fit. Do we assume the piece (verse) is faulty just because we weren't smart enough to put it in its proper place in the puzzle (truth)?
---JackB on 1/1/10


I am not the only one who possesses the accurate translation of the scriptures, for anyone whom studies the original scriptures can also obtain the same truth, it is only those critics whom refuse to study the scriptures, and they have never translated the scriptures themselves, whom are the misjudgers and bearers of false witness. And for their dissing they are judged sinuous and not of the body of Christ. Many thought Jesus was presumptuous when he commanded the religious folk to repent and obey his new commandments. But we know that the true presumptuous ones were his dissers and those whom mocked his words and not he himself whom preached the truth.
---Eloy on 1/2/10


StrongAxe ... Thank you for that. You are of course quite right. I have previously made the same point myself.

However Rhonda's use of the word Xmas is blasphemous, because she denies that Xmas is anything to do with Christ, and she herself uses the term Xmas to remove the festival from having anything to do with Christ.

It is Rhonda who secularises the word Xmas, and thus she is committing blasphemy.
---alan8566_of_uk on 1/2/10


Lee1538:

Yes, both you and Eloy are correct that Kosmos can be translated several ways. However, while it may not necessarily mean "world", it is presumptuous to say it MUST mean "harmony". One reasons we have so many new Bible translations is there are many so-called scholars who believe they alone possess a better understaning of Biblical languages than thousands of scholars over thousands of years who went before them.

Understanding original languages provides insight into scriptures, but assuming one's own translation is correct and everyone else's is wrong is presumptuous and arrogant. It implies the Holy Spirit has withheld his wisdom for 2000 years, only to reveal it to one person toay.
---StrongAxe on 1/1/10


StrongAxe - Eloy has a good point on his comment on the translation of KOSMOS as found in John 3:16. If you desire google 'the sovereignty of God' and view the article by pbministries. It is a short article and worth the reading and may give you further insight into what he is trying to say.

However, one principle that is sought in translating the Bible from the original languages is that sound doctrinal views must not be violated by the improper selection of the modern language words.

Translation teams are selected first upon their doctrinal viewpoints. In other words, translators were not selected from Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses to help in modern translations.
---Lee1538 on 1/1/10




alan8566_of_uk:

In Greek, "Christos" begins with Chi ("X"). In the past, "X" (both Greek and Latin) were used as symbols of Christ - for example, the Catholic symbol "Chi Rho" ("X" overlapping with "P"). "X-mas" is thus just short for "CHRIST-mas". Unfortunately, as Christmas gets more secularized, "Xmas" is another way to get it further and further from its Christian origins, but that was not originally the case.


Rhonda:

It depends on how one celebrates. Celebrate the birth of Christ? Or run frantically from mall to mall to buy presents to assuage guilt over not spending enough? One of these pleases God, while the other does not.
---StrongAxe on 12/29/09


I read a few comments here. I'd like to share something.

This will either spark more comments or not,but all pagans have their own holiday,
The Bible states in Ps 53:1 "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God" Hence: April Fools Day!
Cause your fooling yourself if you believe there is no God, or you worship budda, or allah and the like.
All of you are not going to change anyones mind going back and forth about trees etc,someone else said and they are right it's what you believe in your heart.
God Bless, and to my daughter Happy April FOOLS Day!
---Rob on 12/28/09


\\then read verses correctly: xmas tree from forest cut down decorated with silver gold sacrificed children ornaments (aka cherubs) dead xmas tree fastened hammer nails to stand-up as if "alive" then discarded with trash after idolatry of xmas is finished \\

A tree from the forest is cut down, hammered and nailed together, and the resulting cabinet is taken to a home, where it is decorated with idols of one's on children, parents, siblings, and such.

And people look at it in adoration.

Do you do this, Rhonda?
---Cluny on 12/27/09


Rhonda ... You use of the word XMAS is blasaphemous.

It also shows you won't accept that Christians at Christmas celebrate (though maybe on an inaccurate date) the birth of Christ.

At Christmas, no Christians (not even RCs) worship the RCC or retail kings

What Christians have sacrificed children or worshipped a tree?

We do not "mock The Father in Heaven" ... we worship Him at Christmas

Where does God condemn celebration of Christ's birth?

What are those "silly nonsensical fables of xmas" you prattle on about .. the Bible accounts of Gabriel the angels the shepherds the wise men the Christ His mother and earthly father?
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/27/09


Where do you get this nonesense from?
*****

Why history of course it isn't HIDDEN

and you? where else would abominations of xmas God hates and condemns come from?

silly nonsensical fables of xmas when whole world bows down to RCC and retail kings

where are xmas abominations in Gods Holy Word ..."tis the season" xmas tree yule log sacrificing children mistletoes birth of sun-god - idolatry

...Christ WARNED traditions would be more important than him (Mark 7:6-7)

truth from history and TRUTH from Scripture pagan abominations are evil condemned by God ...True Christians turn away from evil they don't mock The Father in Heaven and celebrate what He condemns
---Rhonda on 12/27/09




Rhonda ... In your obsession, you impose your imaginative lies on what Christians do and beleive,

"sacrificed children"

"worshiping tree"

"christ's birthday in FORM of a TREE"

Where do you get this nonesense from?
---alan8566_of_uk on 12/27/09


reference in Jeremiah 10:1-10 is to idols - not to a Christmas tree, "...A tree from the forest is cut down

*****

then read verses correctly: xmas tree from forest cut down decorated with silver gold sacrificed children ornaments (aka cherubs) dead xmas tree fastened hammer nails to stand-up as if "alive" then discarded with trash after idolatry of xmas is finished

oh but don't call it idolatry CALL IT an xmas tree ...don't say worshiping tree ...INSTEAD say blasphemous word of xmas tree so all may honor on one's lips a LIE of "a christ's" birthday in FORM of a TREE

oh but who cares as FALSE ministers of Satan tell you book of Jeremiah are hollow empty words of God Almighty
---Rhonda on 12/26/09


interesting how idolatry of xmas tree is openly masked

and the masses of sheep-people following MENS TRADITIONS handed down by thousands of generations of evil doers are so EASILY deceived by false ministers of light workers who bow down to Satan through RCC who subtly deceives ...using her magic wand she "christianizes" the abominations God says he HATES ...and the WORLD bows down to HER

...Satan deceived Eve subtly with LIES and deceives the whole world today (2Corin 11:3,4 Rev 12:9) Christ WARNED traditions would become more important than him (Mark 7:6-7) and when traditions ARE MORE important than worshiping Christ in Truth and Spirit the tradition IS an idol ...Biblical Christ is mocked on pagan day of xmas
---Rhonda on 12/26/09


Yes it does describe a Christmas tree.
Is a Christmas tree not cut down from the forest and fastened with hammer and nails so that it will not topple over? And then lined with silver and gold decorations?
---Jed on 12/26/09


Jeremiah 10 is absolutely referring to an idol, one that was worshipped & adored WAY before Jesus was born.

In the 1stcentury, the church in Rome decided to inculcate the old pagan practices to keep everyone happy.

God warned His people Israel to destroy all vestiges of pagan worship that they found in the "Promised Land." Not only did God want to prevent His people from being enticed to worship false gods, but He also specifically revealed that He did not want His people to worship Him in the same manner in which the heathen worshipped their gods. Deut12:29-32 amongst many other Scriptures. Come out of Babylon, lest you share in her plagues. Don't believe me - ask the HS.
---Lisa on 12/25/09


The reference in Jeremiah 10:1-10 is to idols - not to a Christmas tree, "...A tree from the forest is cut down
and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold,
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so that it cannot move.
5Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field,
and they cannot speak,
they have to be carried,
for they cannot walk.
Do not be afraid of them,
for they cannot do evil,
neither is it in them to do good."
---Patrick on 12/20/09


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There are no scriptures at all about not using a Christmas tree, none. Christmas trees are not worshipped nor consulted for answers. And I do not know of anybody except nonChristians whom worship trees.
---Eloy on 12/13/09

I personally see no harm in having a Christmas tree, as Christ looks at the heart, and the motivations therein.
---Laurie

There is something beautiful and balanced about spiritual wisdom shown by Eloy and sister Laurie. Christmas is an opportunity to witness to the unsaved who might not otherwise attend a gathering of believers.
Arguments over trees, December 25th, outdoor lighting, Egg Nog or any other nonsense misses the point-i.e. great commission.
---larry on 12/14/09


PROTEST-ants: ants protesting against being stepped on by humans...I jest.
---Eloy on 12/14/09


Chrismas trees were actually invented by Protestants, Rhonda.

Doesn't it bother you to say things that have no basis in reality?
*****

Cluny

doesn't it bother you to TWIST my post claiming I "said" tree's were invented by PROTEST-ants ...then again ...no surprises there ...carry on
---Rhonda on 12/14/09


Chrismas trees were actually invented by Protestants, Rhonda.

Doesn't it bother you to say things that have no basis in reality?

As far as decorating with evergreens, in Northern climates that's what looks the best, but there's nothing to stop you from using dead branches, stubble, and brown leaves if you'd rather.
---Cluny on 12/13/09


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Amen Michael_Bengel

RCC has even blinded her PROTEST-ant daughters to plain scripture

so why do "christians" cut down a perfectly good LIVING tree and then take that dead tree and decorate it (JUST like the pagans do) then throw it out a few weeks later with the trash?

on the very same day they claim they celebrate Christs birth?

what is the "tree connection" have any "christians" ever honestly approached this or do most people have no mind of their own - unable to logically think about what they do or why they do it ...they just smile nod their heads and in robot fashion act like a sheep and blindly do as the masses do?
---Rhonda on 12/13/09


There are no scriptures at all about not using a Christmas tree, none. Christmas trees are not worshipped nor consulted for answers. And I do not know of anybody except nonChristians whom worship trees.
---Eloy on 12/13/09


The rejoiceing before the lord was on the Holy Day.(Feast of Tabernacles) Even the Isrealites wanted to have something in there worship, like the golden calf image. Not like they were worshiping it, It was for YHWH. In the name of YHWH. Say's his people are destroyed through lack of wisdom. I ran across this discusion looking for the verse in the bible where it say's not to do as the pagans --

Jeremiah 10:1-10
---Michael_Bengel on 12/11/09


I personally see no harm in having a Christmas tree, as Christ looks at the heart, and the motivations therein. If you are using a Christmas tree or anything else in ways that are compromising your devotion to Christ, then whatever that item is is not in your best interest to have. If such an item isn't compromising your devotion to Christ, then I would say that it is not problematic or sinful.
---Laurie on 1/27/09


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God is very specific about following the traditions of men: Mark 7:8, Mat. 15:3, Mark 7:13, Col. 2:8, Gal. 4:3, John 7:17, Titus 1:9, Rom. 8:14-16.
Holidays are all steeped in pagan syncretism to worship the deceiver.
Christmas is the Saturnalia, after 'dying' for 3 days, the sun finally moves up on the horizon line on December 25th: worship to the sun god.
The sacrifice of throwing a child into fire is donoted by a cherub token, hung upon the evergreen tree: idol to Nimrod.
Nimrod-Semiramis-Tammuz: original trinity. Nimrod changed to molech/baal, but the worship has always been to satan.

Easter is the moon goddess of fertility, Spring Equinox for the date. It too has the pagan fertility symbols of rabbit and egg.
---CJ on 1/27/09


JESUS never had a party. nor did He ever celebrate any birthday. If there is any dout then why take the chance in doing something that God forbids. Celebrate the birth of Christ everyday, because HE is born in saomeone everyday. This more important than a carnal birth. His real birth was that of the babtism of the Holy Ghost when He was babtised by John.
---jody5986 on 12/20/07


Read Jeremiah 10:1-4
The tree was worshiped by the Druids.
It doesn't matter if your bowing to it or not. The matter is that it became an accursed thing through what the Druids did.
God said "touch not, taste not the unclean thing". It's Paganism....
---faith on 12/20/07


I'm in the middle of decorating my tree, its gaudy and beautiful... I'm always so grateful this time of year.

When you hang ornaments on your Christmas tree remmeber the greatest gift was
WHO hung on the tree for you.

Thank you Dennis - beautiful thought
---Andrea on 12/20/07


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Someone mentioned Jeremiah 10 as the Scripture telling us not to use a tree at Christmas. If you research Jeremiah 10 carefully, you see that the tree was being used as an idol and was being worshipped. If you erect a tree at Christmas to worship it, then I would say that doing so is wrong. If you erect a tree at Christmas as part of your celebration of the birth of Jesus, what is wrong with that? Here is a key word for you: intent. Do you erect a tree at Christmas to worship it?
---Andy on 12/20/07


Christmas is a pagan holiday. Truthfully and simply christmas was not even CLAIMED to be Jesus' birthday until the year 400 by a roman christian emperor. It is not a Christian celebration in anyway. It was a means of celebrating the sun god "Baal"
---Nathan on 12/15/07


Jeremiah chapter 10 is what you are referring to. I think.Talks about taking a tree or something and putting decoration upon it. Is a Christmas tree wrong to have? I don't know but I do buy a tree during Christmas.
---Robyn on 8/18/07


"I always thought that it was a miracle God took back these days and made them HIS"

Those pagan holidays were never God's in the first place.
---David on 8/17/07


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"We can find scripture to condemn eating at McDonalds, etc."

Only if you use very lousy hermeneutics.

The OT was not about obeying 100's of laws. Jesus pointed out that the 10C were based on the principle of love.
---David on 8/17/07


We can move back to the Old Testament and observe 100's of rules, regulations, etc. or we can enjoy the liberty we have in Jesus. If this were a heaven/hell issue, than it would have been addressed in the New Testament.We can find scripture to condemn eating at McDonalds, etc.
---Leonard on 8/16/07


Mithra (Constantines God) birthday was Dec 25th - the yule log is pagan as is the tree(there is a scripture about worshiping the tree)
Easter is the name given for the goddess Esta (fertility goddess) so you figure the eggs - rabbits -all fertility rite objects.
Halloween - same
I always thought that it was a miracle God took back these days and made them HIS!
---Andrea on 8/16/07


First of all, no one knows the true birthday of Jesus Christ. That information is not recorded in The Bible. Second, It's Christmas ok! stop calling it "xmas" that only means your taking his name out of the "HOLYday". Third, No one cares if the birth of Nimrod's child was on Dec. 25th (not saying it was) there were millions of people born that day. What does that have to do with anything? Truth is, it doesnt matter what day you celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.
---Ligia on 8/16/07


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The trouble with the pagan world is that it is vast and ancient (not all parts), so there is NO day, no symbol, and few names that are uniquely Christian. So either we pack up and move to another planet, or we rise up and claim all days and any symbol we find useful for our own and give them all to Christ.

Even Jesus was a popular Jewish name when Christ was born, so we cannot even use that without giving indirect homage to the false Jesus's that came before us - unless we remember who we worship.
---lorra8574 on 6/20/07


I knew a long time ago that our Christmas celebration was moved to cover a pagan feast, but I would rather see more people celebrating Christ at Christmas than trying to resurrect ancient gods and rituals that have nothing to do with us.
---lorra8574 on 6/20/07


your right Francis, Nimrod's wife Semaranus had a child by one of the priests and told everyone tht while she sunbathed ontop of her roof, the sun made her pregnant..hence the people worshiped the son and every autumn, they wailed for him. Tammus the son was born on the 25 Dec not Christ.
---jana on 6/20/07


admiring your photos on the wall, christmas trees, cars, house, dress or anything is a form of idolatry, Did you know that? Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image.U admire your kids photos, u r putting them b4 God.
---jana on 6/20/07


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You have to worship something for it to become an idol. Do people worship trees? I hope not. So unless you worship that Christmas tree , I do not think you will be in trouble with the Lord.
---donna8489 on 6/19/07


as far as idol worship goes, where's the christian excuse for the crucifix or the fish?
arguments against those symbols being outward expressions of inner beliefs, and not "worship", honest christians can understand how the entire 99.99% of the rest of the worlds population viewed their 'abominable' idols. symbols representing beliefs they wish to honor. like the american flag...
---Waesar on 6/19/07


** Sorry to spoil xmas like this, but the truth is that xmas has been around since the tower of Babel in the OT.**

Do you realize, Frances, that there is NOTHING that links Nimrod to Christmas BEFORE the publication of Alexander Hislop's THE TWO BABYLONS? It's one of the fabrications in that book.
---Jack on 12/25/06


Sorry to spoil xmas like this, but the truth is that xmas has been around since the tower of Babel in the OT. Xmas is the celebration of the birth of Nimrod and the Christmas tree is his incarnation after he was killed. Its the celebration of the Babylonian (the great whore of the bible) Messiah. I dont think Jesus appreciates the party in honour of Him when it's not His birthday but the anti christ's birthday. Search Google for Alexander Hislops book on the Two Babylons. You'll find the answers there.
---Francia on 12/23/06


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No Jack, there isnt any day in scripture that says we should remember Him as we do in the way we do today. It is insulting when we celebrate it and we dont even know when His birthday is but on Tammus's. Insulting indeed. Santa Claus is not biblical? Its of the RCs inception. My dear Lord never said celebrate we it.
---may on 12/23/06


If you read in Jeremiah chapter 10 from verse one it talks about heathen worship including the tree and not taking part in the practice of heathen worship and using the tree.
---shaz on 12/22/06


having a christmas tree in your house and having christmas decorations is not wrong or a sin to christians a christmas tree is a symbol of jesus or a picture of the cross to remind us what the true meaning of christmas is christmas is all about jesus and the fact that he gave his life for us the gretest present we could ever get- salvation
---KIMMa on 12/22/06


what is christmas? Christ for the masses. The tree in the Bible many are sybolizing persons. Jesus said, he is the tree of life, the vine. So christmas is the tree of life we are to attain to. Rev-20 - -. This name is not pagan.
---mendy on 12/16/06


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i agree that those scriptures that talk about cutting trees and praise them is talking about idols...not christmas tree. Bible says all things are pure for the pures. Ask the lord and he will answers to your heart. remembre that things that dont come from faith are sin. for those who are sincerely against christmas tree...is a sin for them. i use it to share my kids about eternal life god has given us in christ but we dont adore the tree. let the lord guides you, my beloved. sincerely
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---Rosa_Amelia on 12/15/06


I understand that the first to use a Christmas tree was Martin Luther. There is nothing in his literature that says he worshiped the tree but simply found a means to decorate the interior of his house to celebrate the birth of Christ.
---lee1538 on 12/15/06


Lari,
Ghost,
Do you have any ornaments in your house? Photographs? Artificial plants?
---Bruce5656 on 12/15/06


Oh dear here we go again.
Lari, the use of fire predates Christianity.
So we should not use it?
---alanUKquent64534 on 12/15/06


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Eloy,the biblical scripture Jeremiah 10:1-4 CLEARLY CONDEMNS the celebration and DECORATION of trees(CHRISTMAS) as the WAYS/CUSTOMS of the HEATHEN/PAGAN.The Bible clearly instructs BELIEVERS to "Learn NOT the WAY of the HEATHEN" which is CHRISTMAS (AKA) Brumalia/Saturnalia , but MANY ignore this clear directive and WARNING from the CREATOR from the Bible.
---Lari_S on 12/14/06


it is in jeremiah 10 that says that we are not to take up these things. read jeremiah 10 1-5
---ghost on 12/13/06


2.Encyclopedia Americana states,"The idea of using EVERGREENS at Christmas time also came to England from pre-Christian northern English beliefs.Celtic and Teutonic tribes honored these plants at their WINTER SOLSTICE festivals as symbolic of eternal life,..The evergreen holly was WORSHIPPED as a promise of the sun's return..Some scholars hold that the EVERGREEN TREE,a symbol of life to the PAGANS,became a symbol of the SAVIOR and thus an interval part of the celebration of HIS BIRTH."
---Lari_S on 12/12/06


3.Encyclopedia Britannica states,"TREE WORSHIP,common among the pagan Europeans,survived after their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian CUSTOM of decorating the house and barn with EVERGREENS at the New Year to scare away the devil and of setting up a TREE for the birds during CHRISTMASTIME;it survived further in the custom,also observed in Germany,of placing a YULE TREE at the entrance or inside the house in the midwinter holidays."
---Lari_S on 12/12/06


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3.New 20th Century Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge states,"Symbols,originating largely from classical or Teutonic-Celtic PAGANISM,such as lights,GREENERY,and special foods, gradually became associated with CHRISTMAS."
---Lari_S on 12/12/06


There is a scripture in the Old Testament that says "the heathen cut a tree down from the forest, take it into their homes and decorate it with silver." SoI. Jesus Christ was NOT born in December, but it is believed he was born in April...which makes sense why we should honour Easter Sunday. The Roman Catholic church used December 25th as a high solstice day. Living trees give us oxygen...dead ones don't...and they clutter up the landfill sites.
---Lindy on 12/12/06


Eloy,it is a historical FACT that the PAGAN custom of decorating Christmas Trees is a survival of ancient pagan tree-worship from PAGAN Rome and PAGAN Teutonic-Celtic tribes.

1.Collier's Encyclopedia states,"Some authorities consider the CHRISTMAS TREE a survival of PAGAN TREE-WORSHIP and trace it to ancient ROME...The use of EVERGREENS to decorate homes at Christmas time has an mistakenly pre-Christian origin."
---Lari_S on 12/12/06


lari s, I will answer the truth, and not as you desire me to answer. The Christmas tree origin derived from the mystery plays (ie: religious plays) in Europe from the 11th century: It is symbolic of everlasting life in the winter, and has nothing to do with paganism. And the Mithra idol has nothing to do with Christmas: Christmas was instituted by the three magi in honor of Christ's birth, in the city of Bethlehem of Judea on the night of December 25, 5 B.C.
---Eloy on 12/11/06


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Eloy, please answer this question:

Is the Christmas tree a PAGAN custom?

Please answer YES or NO or I don't know.
---Lari_S on 12/11/06


lari S, "...under every green tree", is speaking of the idolaters that were known to burn incense and commit idolatry under the shade of trees, and it speaks absolutely nothing of Christmas trees nor even hints about a Christmas tree, for Christmas trees did not come into existence until long after Christ ascended back up into heaven, and Christmas trees is not idolatry anyhow, for people do not worship them nor do they consult them as if consulting God.
---Eloy on 12/10/06


The Bible condemns Tree(CHRISTMAS)Worship.Please read the following scriptures:

1.Deuteronomy 12:2,"Ye shall utterly destroy all places,wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods,.....under every GREEN TREE."

2.Isaiah 57:4-5,".....Are ye not children of transgression,a seed of falsehood,.Enflaming yourselves with idols under every GREEN TREE,..."
---Lari_S on 12/10/06


II Kings 16:1-4, 17:1-'10', II Chron.28:1-(4)5, most likely are the scriptures in question. But, unlike the Hebrew/Jewish Calendar, Babylonian in origin, & probably the only calendar around then [remember Babel?], G_d kept as His choice for Abraham & Sarah's seed [probably Hagar's offspring thru Ismael too with different meanings], being the only real calendar after the (re)creation was finished. The Christmas Tree being introduced by man.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 12/9/06


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Every Christian that I know worships Christ only, and we don't worship Christmas trees nor any other thing.
---Eloy on 12/9/06


Nope, there is absolutely no verse in the Bible condemning Christmas trees, none, no where anywhere from Genesis the beginning to Revelation the end. People decorate Christmas trees for beauty in the dead of winter, and no Christian commits idolatry by worshipping nor bowing down to a Christmas tree in the place of Christ.
---Eloy on 12/9/06


I only asked because we had an inquiry from a nice confused woman, I think. Saying there was scripture that she had read. I like to be sure before I answer anyone or argue with anyone. That would not not be wise or fruitful. I thought that if anyone knew anything about this it would help to know. I love the worship of the Lord, His birth, the nativity, at any day, even every day. As Christians this should be our greatest task, along with spreading the true, and full gospel.
---linda5459 on 12/8/06


**to me it is a great insult to remember our Lord on this day and its not His birthday but Tammus's.**

Are you saying there's a day when we should FORGET about Jesus?

**This is the work of the Roman Catholics of old to deceive people.**

Why is it that the ancient churches of the East that were NEVER part of the RCC observe the solemnity of the Nativity about this time, then? Can you explain that?
---Jack on 12/8/06


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Part 2:

**to me it is a great insult to remember our Lord on this day and its not His birthday but Tammus's.This is the work of the Roman Catholics of old to deceive people.**

I don't suppose any purpose would be served by suggesting it's not a DAY that's being celebrated, but a theological and spiritual FACT: The Holy Nativity according to the Flesh of our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Would there be?
---Jack on 12/8/06


I know Bible believing people would never "worship" a tree or any image/idol. Yet, look where all the evergreen trees are at Christmas time. In the Capital. In Schools, Cities, homes, etc. How many places have removed Jesus & kept the tree? As for scripture, we know we should not have things representing idol worship. Then read 1Kg.14:23, 2Kg.16:4, Is.57:5. "Green" trees used is pagan worship. Dismiss it. Tut tut it away. Just compare the time the tree gets vs Jesus this season.
---mikefl on 12/8/06


I have never known anyone who uses a tree for worship.
---Susie on 12/8/06


** That depends on what you mean by "use a tree in worship."**

Good point, Bruce.

I know of NOBODY who does so, and what's more, nobody on these blogs REALLY does either--though some might think they do.
---Jack on 12/7/06


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I dont think so, but everytime I see christmas tree, I think of the crown of thorns that was roughly dumped on my Savior's divine head and have thorns push down into His divine head.. bleeding..and the kingly gown they threw upon Him to mock Him .... to me it is a great insult to remember our Lord on this day and its not His birthday but Tammus's.This is the work of the Roman Catholics of old to deceive people.
---lily on 12/7/06


isn't there about 3 blogs already dealing with this? If you celebrate christmas feel free to celebrate how you feel, the christmas tree has a long christian tradition. most of those tht oppose it are trying to look holier than all others, God can see through it.
---Jared on 12/7/06


Nothing neither fobidding nor enjoining.

There's a passage in Jeremiah which is taken out of context to condemn Christmas trees, but is actually talking about idolatry.

OTOH, there are passages in the Torah about taking "fruit of a pleasant tree [citron/esrog] and thick leafy branches, and rejoicing before the Lord."
---Jack on 12/7/06




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