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What Happens At Death

What happens to humans at death? Do they go to heaven, hell, or somewhere in between? Do they go anywhere? Are they alive in another dimension, or do they cease to exist? Plese answer with scripture not denominational doctrine.

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Please allow the only denomination here to be GOD. Please allow the only doctrine here to be your own. For whome else could this possibly concern. You asked the question, and I am posing an answer. You can either look at it or look away, after all god gave you free will. The answer to your question is obvious, human's are burried in a cemetary or cremated at death. I think the real question here is "is that human still BEING?". That being will allways be in all it's glory.PEACE OUT.
---Peter on 1/13/08


"For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: and if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished" 1 Corinthians 15:16-18 What is the hope of those who have "fallen ASLEEP" in Christ? Is it now being in heaven after death? No, it is the resurrection. If the dead went directly to heaven, this verse would never have been written! Instead, they will be brought forth in the resurrection.
---Gina on 12/30/06


"For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: and if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished" 1 Corinthians 15:16-18 And why are those who have fallen asleep in Christ perished, if Christ be not raised? Because they are not going to heaven directly at death, they are resting in the grave awaiting the resurrection of the just, at the 2nd coming.
---Gina on 12/30/06


"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest" Ecclesiastes 9:10
---Gina on 12/29/06


Rev 6:9,10 is symbolic. Are we to believe that all of the marters are under an alter somewhere as well? No, it represents the necessity of having their innocent shed blood avenged, and the crying out of them & their blood, under the alter, is a symbolic vision of this. The Bible makes it clear that the dead come up in the resurrection, to then be taken to heaven.
---Gina on 12/29/06




Kay "Geoff, Geoff, Geoff, ALL Christians who have died are living in Heaven now. No one is "soul sleeping"."/Then why is the resurrection,& not death instead,the hope of the Christian as stated in the Bible over& over?The dead in Christ rising in 1Thes 4:14-18 are at 2nd coming.We are to see our dead loved ones in the resurrection,& are to "comfort one another with these words". They do not go to heaven at death & then are pulled back into the graves, only to be resurrected.
---Gina on 12/29/06


The idea that the Christian goes immediately to heaven at death, requires us to believe that at the resurrection of the dead, spoken of in the Bible,God takes the saints,takes them from heaven,puts them BACK into the grave,back into a dead body,& then brings them forth from that grave, & expects them to act surprised and say wow,"O death, where is thy sting? O grave,where is thy victory" 1 Corin.15:55.& then Jesus will take them back to heaven.What is the point,if they were in heaven already?
---Gina on 12/29/06


"But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died & rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive & remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. " 1 Thes 4:13-15
---Gina on 12/29/06


"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,with the voice of the archangel,and with the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."1 Thes 4:16-18 Verses 13-18 make it clear the dead are asleep,& they will not go to heaven UNTIL the resurrection, at the 2nd coming!
---Gina on 12/29/06


"For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred,and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun" Ecclesiastes 9:5,6
---Gina on 12/29/06




"And behold, I come quickly,and my reward is with me to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city" Rev 22:12-14 Does this verse say our rewards will be at our death? NO,it says our rewards will be given at the 2nd coming. (At the resurrection for the dead, translation for the living)
---Gina on 12/29/06


"For David is not yet ascended into the heavens" Acts 2:34 (and why not? because the Resurrection has not yet occured!)
---Gina on 12/29/06


In the Transfiguration, in Mark 9:2-10, Moses and Elias appeared with Jesus. Elias was translated and taken to heaven without seeing death, and Moses was resurrected after having died (Jude verse 9). The two of them were representatives of all who will be saved: those who will be resurrected from the dead, having died in faith of the redeemer, Jesus; and those who will be alive when Jesus comes and will be translated without seeing death.
---Gina on 12/29/06


"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ" Titus 2:13. What is the blessed hope? Is it death? No, it is the 2nd coming! And what happens at the 2nd coming? The resurrection! 1 Thess 4:13-18 "and the dead in Christ shall rise first".
---Gina on 12/29/06


Rev 20:4 refers to resurrected saints living and reigning with Christ for a 1000 years. This is after the resurrection from the dead! It does not support going to heaven when you die, rather, it shows those faithful to Jesus being resurrected when He comes the 2nd time.
---Gina on 12/29/06


Leslie, I somewhat agree with you. I believe that the soul continues to exist after death. In Revelation 6:9, John is shown Heaven and the souls of them that were killed during the Tribulation. In verse 10 the souls "cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, does thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"
Also Revelation 20:4
---Kay on 12/29/06


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Geoff, Geoff, Geoff, ALL Christians who have died are living in Heaven now. No one is "soul sleeping".
---Kay on 12/29/06


Proverbs 23:13-15
13Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

15My son, if thine heart be wise, my heart shall rejoice, even mine.
---Tom on 12/28/06


The Bible says that humans are made of three parts: Body - earthsuit, Soul (mind,will,emotions), and Spirit - real, eternal you. When you die your spirit is separated from your body and soul and lives eternally in Heaven or Hell (depending on whether or not you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord & Savior). Your body and soul remain dead. Your spirit is the only thing that lives forever in Heaven or Hell.
---Leslie on 12/26/06


To --kathr I really like your answer to this question.
---Mima on 12/18/06


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Donna, Donna, Donna, which "Christians who have died and are living in heaven now?"
---Geoff on 12/17/06


joseph: exciting news,
Hebrews 9:28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

joseph, guess what those who are IN CHRIST, Jesus faced that judgement for us. We now stand In Him, without sin unto salvation (that would be us). We are now Alive In Christ. Our physical bodies will die now before we receive our Bodies fashioned like His, but we "In Christ" are alive forevermore.
Next
---kathr4453 on 12/16/06


joseph #2
The Mystery "kept secret" was Christ in you, Col 1:27. Job and OT Saints looked forward to the Cross,standing by faith. Those in Abraham's bosom were raised up with Christ when He rose from the dead. These are the spirits of Just men made perfect Heb 11. Their perfection came at Jesus resurrection.
Also remember when Peter and the others saw Jesus with Moses and Elija on the Mount of Transfiguration?
You seem like a wonderful brother In Christ joseph! Nice sharing with you!
---kathr4453 on 12/16/06


Pt.3 ...they that have done good, unto the resurrection of 'life'; They that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." Heb.9:27>Jn.5:29 Kathr4453 thankyou for taking the time to read my post & look to correct me, it is appreciated. In the future if you happen to read something that I have written that you believe disagrees with scripture please enlighten me. I look to the mature for their input. I grow by every statement I read & presume to know nothing except Christ & Him crucified.
---joseph on 12/16/06


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Pt.2 Believe me Kat I recognize my fallibility & would never argue or denounce the beliefs of another. I can only share on the level the Father has brought me to & I am as careful as possible for me as a student, to share only the truth that has been given me to embrace. "It appointed unto man once to 'die', but after this the judgement. For the hour is coming, in which all that are in the 'grave' shall hear His voice, and 'shall' come forth; [Cont]
---joseph on 12/16/06


Good Morning Kathr4453. Thankyou for pointing out the fallibility of some of the statements made in the book of Job. The Father did reprimand the friends of Job with the exception of Elihu for their counsel without knowledge. However though He corrected Job for his assumptions concerning the trails He faced & his decision to convict the Father as the cause, The Father commended him for speaking rightly with that exception. Job 42:7. The verse that I quoted was from the mouth of Job not his friends. [Cont]
---joseph on 12/16/06


Greetings.One here said ,there are no christians in heaven right now because the resurection has yet to take place.Remember the verse ;He led captivity captive and gave gifts?To clarify;He led a multitude of captives.John also wrote that he saw a multitude of one time mortals who were resurected.Considering John's late gospel, they may or may not have been the same group that Jesus led.
---earl on 12/15/06


Paul said, absent from the body, present with the Lord. We have been united forever in Christ. Our lives are Hidden with God in Christ Jesus, even as we speak. Colossians 3:1-4
---kathr4453 on 12/15/06


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joseph, Yet those in Christ have LIFE. Your quotes are referring to those who die without Christ. Also when quoting Job we need to be careful who was saying what. The friends of Job did not speak correctly about God or spiritual things, so their comments would not necessarily be correct. Job said, I know that my redeemer liveth. We know very well with the story of Lazarus in the New Testament that they were very aware of their surroundings.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/06


Luke 16:22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
---kathr4453 on 12/15/06


Where are these Saints now that Jesus rose from the Dead and lead captivity captive? Answer:
Hebrews 12:22But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
---kathr4453 on 12/15/06


Mrs. Morgan, can your provide scriptural evidence that the soul either ascends or descends upon physical death, because scripture speaks of the Spirit returning to God but is mute when it comes to the soul returning to God. Scripture does however speak of death as sleep, Christ Himself declared Lazarus was asleep. Sleep is an accurate analogy of death because upon death all conscous thought ceases until your designated resurrection.
---Ryan on 12/15/06


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Donna9759, your statement: "...Christians who have died and are living in heaven now?" is based on false theology. There are no Christians in heaven right now because the first resurrection has not taken place. The soul sleeps until its designated resurrection. All men die.
---Ryan on 12/15/06


Jesus made it very CLEAR when He spoke of the death and life of the rich man, and the poor beggar. After death the soul either ascends to Heaven, or descends to Hell, There's no such thing as "soul sleep". God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 12/15/06


Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, Jesus promised us ETERNAL LIFE. Eternal means never ending. So how do you explain all the Christians who have died and are living in heaven now? Eternal means never ending. Please read all the times Jesus said, "to Him I give eternal life." Eternal means never ending..our life never ends, we never die. Ask Jesus, he'll tell you this truth.
---Donna9759 on 12/15/06


Ps 6:5 "For in death there is no remembrance of thee" Ps. 115:17 "The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence". Ec.9:5 "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything." Job 14:12 "So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep".Psalm 146:4 "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; (and) in that very day his thoughts perish."
---joseph on 12/14/06


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Thank you Geoff, I absolutly agree. In that day your thoughts perish, you cease to have consciousness. You are not celebrating with the Lord upon departure from your flesh, as a matter of fact you don't depart from the flesh we've already established that your thoughts perish. The spirit part of you, that which originally belonged to God, returns to God but all souls sleep until their designated resurrection.
---Ryan on 12/13/06


Ryan, according to the Bible one ceases to exist at death.

His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. Psalm 146:4

And this does not cancel out the resurrection, for if God created us in the first place, He can also resurrect us even from ashes or disintegration.
---Geoff on 12/13/06


Donna 9759, II Corinthians 5:8 does not say:

"We are confident, and willing rather to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord."
---Ryan on 12/12/06


Donna 9759, In almost every translation and version I read it says:

"we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord."

This is saying that it is the desire of every Christian to be free of this fleshly body and living in eternity with the Lord. This scripture is in no way a reference to what happens when we die.
---Ryan on 12/12/06


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Ernst3769 you're way off base. Revelation is speaking about the New Jerusalem that will be set up on earth. You really need to study the word more carefully before you give your opinions. Luv ya!
---Donna9759 on 12/12/06


It is misunderstanding "going to heaven" as purpose!! Nowhere, reading the epistles or Acts, about "going to heaven" as "purpose". God is in heaven, but Revelation tells, heaven comes down to the earth. All apostles wrote of resurrection!! After resurrection we get a task!! (not "rest in peace"!). Read last chapters of Revelation. We are predestined to be "Kings and priests after our resurection". Heaven isn't our purpose, perhaps an intermediate stage.
---Ernst3769 on 12/12/06


Ryan, the scripture reference is as follows: 2Cr 5:8 We are confident, and willing rather to be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord.
For a Christian, there is NO death. Jesus promised us ETERNAL life. ETERNAL means never ending. Our life never ends if we are a believer in Christ Jesus. The resurrection you are referring to is when Jesus resurrects the body to the spirit which dwells in heaven. What does ETERNAL mean to you? Eternal means never ending..so a Christian never dies.
---Donna9759 on 12/12/06


Ryan
2 corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7 (for we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8 we are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
---JIM on 12/12/06


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The Spirit returns from wince it came it came. Once the spirit leaves the body it's to be in the presence of the Lord.
---Jackie on 12/11/06


Donna 9759, will you provide a scripture in support of this statement:

"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord"
---Ryan on 12/11/06


Donna 9759, I am familiar with 2 Corinthians 5:8, that it is our zeal and reward to be present with the Lord, but I am unable to locate where the scriptures say directly after death you are with the Lord. It is my understanding that the elect partake in a resurrection as well as the unrighteous. To be resurrected you must be dead. You are not dead if you are still alive with Christ in heaven after you die in the flesh. If you are already alive what is the point of resurrecting you?
---Ryan on 12/11/06


Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be in paradise with Jesus that day!
---Susie on 12/11/06


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Paul said, To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Jesus talked about "where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in hell." When a person dies, their spirit leaves their body and goes up or down. The body is the vessel that carries the soul and spirit. When the body dies, the spirit leaves the body. You can go to heaven but be in Paradise part of heaven until you are ready to go directly to the throne of God.
---Donna9759 on 12/11/06


greetings.There is no biblical scripture to give a complete and thorough answer.The questions are answerable but not by the restrictions you impose .
---earl on 12/11/06


Right on Jack! If I may add, we all know (or atleast should know) that we live in God-created time. God inhabits time & eternity.

Please correct me if I'm wrong; but, it's my understanding eternity is timelessness, a kind of perpetual now. At "the time" of our individual death we're immediately ushered into God's "timeless" (eternal) presence & judged according to what we've done individually in our lives on earth. (Matt. 13:24-30, 25:31-46; Rev. 20:11-15)
---Leon on 12/11/06


"It is appointed to man once to die, and after this the judgement."

However, this verse does not say how soon after death the judgement comes.
---Jack on 12/11/06


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