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What is hell? If GOD is everywhere, and He is. I don't see how there could be any room left for hell. I think that hell is a misperception of HEAVEN, satan a misperception of GOD, demons a misperception of ANGELS and so on. Do YOU agree with this, and if not than why?

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Eloy, I know that you say these thing in ignorance but I still pray for you. Ill tell you like ive told others, for you to make God out to be such a monster, God will be a monster to you on judgement day, for out of your own mouth you will be judged. On judgement day, God will lead you to believe that you will suffer the same faith that you have lead others to believe, may God have mercy on your soul.
---Billy on 5/25/08


see: 23 minutes in hell...
then tell me what you think.
Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Psalm 55:15
Let death seize upon them, and let them go down alive into hell, for wickedness is in their dwellings and among them.
Matthew 10:28
And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
---Lisa on 9/14/07


The endless torment of eternity.
2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgment,
---Lisa on 9/14/07


Hell is a place of unquenchable fire-(Matt13:41-42, Mark9:43).
Hell is a place of memory and remorse(Luke16:19-31).
Hell is a place of misery and pain(Rev. 14:10-11)
Hell is a place of frustration and anger(Matt. 13:42, Matt. 24:51).
The occupants of hell will be satan, the antichrist, the false prophet, fallen angels, Judas Iscariot and all unsaved peaple.
---Cynthia on 9/14/07


Eloy; I can't believe a person with your bible knowledge saying this drivel! You know perfectly well that hell is the English translation of sheol,hades,gehennah and tarterus: Tarterus is dense darkness (no fire there) no fire in sheol! hades is hot only in a parable of the rich man and lazerus ;The only fire is in gehennah a garbage dump outside Jerusalem (used figuratively)But you know this.
---1st_cliff on 9/14/07




Wouldn't hell be a place where the devil runs things, portrayed in Dante's Inferno.
2Co 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
Hell is cast into the lake of fire.

Re 20:14 And death AND HELL were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
2Pe3:10,&12, The earth, the heavens, the elements, burned up in fervent heat.
---stewart on 1/6/07


Psalms 139;8
If I acsend up into heaven thou art there,If I make my bed in hell, behold thou art there. and I agree with the Mod, you need a little more study in the Holy Bible this time.
---Carla5754 on 1/6/07


It is ultimate evil of demons trying to take the place of the Godly which is happening today. It is the devil knowing that his time is short and trying to trade souls worldwide. It is a place where they ignore God's commands and do as they want.
---tonne on 1/4/07


It is true I am I, what you said about God been Omnipresent, and even in hell He can be found. That is one reason many Christians don't accept the Sovereignty of God because they have formed Him as they see Him and not as who He is. There is no place to hide from God. There is no corner of the universe where God is not. This is not comforting to the unbeliever, for he cannot hide from God.
---lisa on 1/2/07


2, yet its a comforting thought for the believer because no matter where he is at he is in the presence of Almighty God. David gave a good explanation of this,"Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend into heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there, if I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there Your hand shall lead me, and Your right hand shall hold me."
---lisa on 1/2/07




3. Even the wicked in hell are only separted from God by His benevolence, His loving kindness. But not His presence. It is when a person studies the Nature, character and attributes of God that we see the God of Scripture not the one we want to see. So on this matter I agree with you. I will check the other comments you made.
---lisa on 1/2/07


(1). Lisa, my sister! No need to apologize, you yourself have shown great character while others have disagreed with your spiritual understanding of scripture. Though none of us will see eye to eye on everything, its how we treat our fellow man, that God truly wants out of us.

Matt 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
[47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
---Billy on 1/2/07


(2). Lisa, I think that Matt 5:46,47 lets us know how we should treat all men, and not just our brothers and sisters. Lisa, youve been a joy to talk to even when we dont agree, and youve always shown love in your responses to me and all the others that you converse with, so no apology needed. God bless you Lisa, and will look forward to debating such a cheerful God fearing lady as yourself. God bless
---Billy on 1/2/07


Billy, I want to apologize to you and I am I on not wanting to answer you guys. I just don't believe in any of what both of you state concerning Scripture. Yet, what I have found out though, is that you two are man of character and class. I say this because I have yet to see either of you accuse or condemn anyone that is against what you believe. Both of you respond so different, with kindness and sincerity. I really appreciate that from both of you.
---lisa on 1/1/07


2. I have changed my mind Billy. I will answer any passages with you since I know you will not condemn me for my believes. Others here would send you to hell if they could and close the door for disagreeing with them. Some kind of Christians. I will do my best to answer you but it will be one passage at a time to have some control, and one subject at a time. Thank you both for been so kind in your answers. This does not mean I don't stand for what I believe in my heart. That never changes.
---lisa on 1/1/07


The moderator is correct. You are uninformed. A study of hell would reveal the three. Hades or Sheol, the grave of all who sleep. Gehenna, the lake of fire and Tartarus, the place for the fallen angels. Only Hades or Sheol and Tartarus currently exist.
---Buzz on 1/1/07


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Isaiah 45:6-7 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
---Exzucuh on 12/27/06


1/ Ernst, thanks for responding to my post.

YOU WROTE: Who says or where is written that God also is in hell?? It is said, that Jesus was between his death and resurrection in hell, to preach the gospel, but this isn't sure.

Psalm 139:8 (KVJ): If I make my bed in HELL, behold, thou art there.
---I_AM_I on 12/27/06


2/ Ernst

YOU WROTE: Is there any reason for God to be in hell?

Yes! God is omnipresent or universal. God is everywhere, including in hell (Psalm 139:8), heaven and earth (Jer. 23:24), WITHIN US (Luke 17:21 and Acts 17:2429) and in all of creation (Roman 1:20). Have I left anywhere out?

YOU WROTE: "hell is absence of God!"

Please explain this further. What do you mean by *absence of God?*
---I_AM_I on 12/27/06


3/ Ernst

YOU WROTE: Who says that God created "evil"? God created angels. Lucifer made himself to Satan! He and many angels have been thrown out from heaven, they would be like God! Adam also would be like God, which caused the fall of man.

Isaiah 45:7 (KJV): I make peace, and create EVIL.

I know Rev. 12:7 9 says Satan was thrown out of heaven. However, do you have any verse that says Satan was an angel BEFORE becoming Satan?
---I_AM_I on 12/27/06


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4/ Ernst

Was Satan thrown out of heaven (Rev. 12: 7 9) or was he created the devil FROM THE BEGINNING? 1 John 3:8: the devil sinned from the beginning! Ernst, Satan is evil and God created evil (Isa. 45:7). Therefore, God created Satan!!!

Now, what exactly is Satan or the devil and what is sin?

Also, how did Adam wanting to be God as you said caused the fall of man? Didn*t God acknowledge that Adam is like God? Gen 3:22. God bless.
---I_AM_I on 12/27/06


Dear "I am I",
Who says that God created "evil"? God created angels. Lucifer made himself to Satan! He and many angels have been thrown out from heaven, they would be like God! Adam also would be like God, which caused the fall of man.
The Lord didn't create programmed computers, and we may be happy, that our computers haven't "a free will"!! When our computers don't obey we throw them away!! How wonderful is the Lord, that HE saves us!
---Ernst3769 on 12/26/06


Dear I am I,
Who says or where is written that God also is in hell?? It is said, that Jesus was between his death and resurrection in hell, to preach the gospel, but this isn't sure. You also asks, where hell is. Do you know where heaven is? Between Getsemane and his death on the cross, Jesus was going through a real hell, because God left him! That's why I say: "hell is absence of God!" Is there any reason for God to be in hell?
---ernst3769 on 12/26/06


Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
---Exzucuh on 12/26/06


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Psalms 106:17-18 The earth opened and swallowed up Dathan, and covered the company of Abiram. And a fire was kindled in their company; the flame burned up the wicked.
Numbers 26:10 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up together with Korah, when that company died, what time the fire devoured two hundred and fifty men: and they became a sign.
And that sign is for those who contradict Gods word, the liars, and, the gain Sayers, that resist the teaching and authority of Jesus.
---Exzucuh on 12/26/06


Audrey: Well done! In fact the root of the word "Gehenna" is "the valley of the Sons of Hinnom." That valley lies just outside Jerusalem and is indeed the town garbage dump - a place where the trash fires burn "continually."
---jerry6593 on 12/26/06


Audrey - ("A merciful God does not have an ever burning fire awaiting mortals") -- Oh yes, He does. Matthew 25:41 "Depart from Me you cursed, into the everlasting fire..." Revelation 20:15 "And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire". God in His mercy has provided free salvation by sending His Son Jesus Christ to become a Man and die on the Cross for sin. (continued...)
---Helen_5378 on 12/26/06


2/... For all those who reject God's offer of free salvation He will cast them into the everlasting fire of Hell. God is love, and He is also a righteous Judge. Why would anybody who does not want Jesus in this life think they would want Him for all of eternity? Sin is man's problem and Christ has already paid for it with His life on the Cross. Choose Christ today.
---Helen_5378 on 12/26/06


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Hell is 'hades' a hole in the ground. A grave. 'Gehenna' was a place where they would throw dead bodies and garbage. Everything was 'burnt up.' A merciful God does not have an ever burning fire awaiting mortals. This myth was popularized by Dante Alagere in his Divine Comedy.
---Audrey on 12/25/06


I AM; I notice you used the scripture " the Kingdom is within you" which comes from the KJV in the margin (of some) it says "or among" meaning the Kingdom is in your midst,or among you rather than the implication that somehow it is within your being! IMHO In reality a Kingdom is a King and subjects.
---1st_cliff on 12/25/06


Hell is a place where mattresses of maggots lay, it is a place of suffering, disease, sickness and every other foul spirit. There are liars, cheaters, robbers, perverts, sodomites, and evil occults who cause chaos, confusion, torture and abuse. They hate anyone that loves the Lord and try to keep them from God
---tonne on 12/25/06


No, I do not agree with you . To
even think such a thing is ludicrous. I do believe there is a Hell and I am certain God could and would visit there is He chose to. Hell is a very real place and to doubt it is to gamble with your soul.
---carol on 12/25/06


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Lisa; I wrote a note to you but it somehow got in the "hell" blog 12/24 06 God bless
---1st_cliff on 12/25/06


Thank you too I am I, and to you also, I will move from, and let you guys talk about whatever your hearts desire. I do love you and 1 Cliff, and Billy. I just don't believe any of your statements. So I will move on since none of you need help. Merry Christmas I am I, to you and Billy, and Cliff. Blessings to all of you.
---lisa on 12/24/06


1/Lisa

YOU WROTE to 1st Cliff: You think you are so smart that you can confuse us all, but it is faith we live by, not smartness. 12/22/06

YOU WROTE to 1st Cliff: For anything without faith is sin. As I said before, you are trying to lead the believer away from his faith, that to me is evil. 12/22/06

As I told you before, without LOVE all the faith you have is not enough! 1 Cor. 13: 2, 13. LOVE is greater than faith, as I told you before.
---I_AM_I on 12/23/06


2/Lisa

If you want to see our UNCONDITIONALLY LOVING GOD, please read the entire chapter in 1 Cor. 13. God is LOVE. * He who does not love does not know God, for GOD IS LOVE. * 1 John 4:8. The world would be a better place if we lived the two (2) great commandments Jesus THE CHRIST said to live by: LOVE God and LOVE each other! Which parent not *ill* will punish his/her child with fire for a split second or otherwise? The ONE TRUE GOD is not wicked!
---I_AM_I on 12/23/06


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TO LESLIE and others who say hell is a place, please tell me where this place is. The Bible says hell is IN, ON and UNDER the earth. Some people spent tremendous time searching the earth for hell. They even searched the seas and oceans. If any one knows where this place is, let us know, because I would like to volunteer to go free my brothers and sisters in God from this place!!! Like the Kingdom of God ( Luke 17:21), hell is WITHIN. I have been there and I am going through there now.
---I_AM_I on 12/23/06


2/ Leslie and others

Oh, ya! I am being burnt too, because God is Spirit (John 4:24) and God is a consuming fire (Heb 12:29). Therefore, God is a consuming SPIRITUAL FIRE. God burns us more than any literal fire in hell ever can!!! However, in the end, we are ALL SAVED after passing through the fire that is God!!! 1 Cor. 3:11-15. Even those born again must burn the envy, jealousy, mean-- spiritedness, HATE, etc., out of their hearts. God bless.
---I_AM_I on 12/23/06


Hell is a place where there is fire & brimstone, constant pain & torture, nashing of the teeth - a place where even a drop of water for your tonge will not be granted. Satan & his demons were once angels that fell from Heaven when they thought that they were better than God.
---Leslie on 12/22/06


Hell is mentioned 32 times in the old testement and 21 times in the new testement, it is amazing that people believe the rapture doctrine,Trinity,doctrine,Oneness doctrine,prosperity doctrine,praying to Mary,Jesus crucified on a stake, Once saved always saved,live in sin walk on the blood and still be saved doctrine, which are not in the bible and don't believe in hell that Jesus spoke of with his own mouth.
---Exzucuh on 12/22/06


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Cliff, I don't know all the answers but a true believe will work hard to find the truth. They don't try to distroy the faith in a believer. That is what you do in every blog. Everything a Christian holds true, you turn around and distroy it. You have been doing this for a long time and now there is a few that believe what you say. I cannot stop you from distroying the faith, but God can. You think you are so smart that you can confuse us all, but it is faith we live by, not smartness.
---lisa on 12/22/06


2. I have never called anyone evil or that they are not saved, or that they have the devil, but in your case, there is nothing of faith in Christ in you, so everything you say is against the very thing we believe in. So it must be evil. For anything without faith is sin. As I said before, you are trying to lead the believer away from his faith, that to me is evil. You have been doing this now for a long time. I hope no one else listens to you. You are a force working against our faith.
---lisa on 12/22/06


(1). Lisa, ive never said that I read something thats caused be to believe what I do, I said that through the years of my christian life that even though I was tought that punishment was eternal, that something spoke to my spirit that this couldnt be the truth. I know that this might not be word for word, but I know that Ive never said that I read this from an outside source. Lisa, you might have me confused with someone else that has said this, but it wasnt me.
---Billy on 12/21/06


(2). Lisa, you know that ive always stated that the wicked are judged, and dont escape being punished, so please dont accuse me of something that I didnt say. If you dont want to debate with me about the destiny of all humanity, I cant push you "and never would" to do something you dont want to do. This sight allows many to express there beliefs, so will you ignore me when I comment to your posts on other blogs? Lisa, I love you as a sister and this will never change.
---Billy on 12/21/06


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(3). Lisa, You say that I trample Gods Word under foot without any conscience or meaning , but this isnt true. I hold Gods Word "Jesus" very close to my heart, but I dont try to convince anyone of my faithfulness to his Word, just the truth of the Word. I pray Gods blessings on your life, God bless.
---Billy on 12/21/06


Hell is a place where the holy are persecuted by the unholy. Internationally today people are suffering horrible persecutions. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers, rulers and authorities in the heavenly realm. Guantanomo is a prime example.
---TONNE on 12/21/06


You do have a right Billy, everyone does. It is with love I say what I say to you Billy, not becuase I don't like you. You told me once you believe in eternal punishment, but something you read from someone gave you insight to the real truth. Whatever that thing that gave you that insight is wrong. But then again you do have a right. I wanted to state to you what Scripture says about someone that tramples God's Word and I guess it has no meaning to you. So I will leave you to your believes Billy.
---lisa on 12/21/06


Who said: "The unrightess are not in the pressance of GOD, but separated eternally from him". I don't think Jesus (love) would have said such a thing. Who else are you following? If you believ GOD IS EVERYWHERE, and he is, how is it possible to not be in his presance?, how is it possible to be even separated from him? PEACE BE with YOU.
---peter8365 on 12/21/06


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(1). My My Lisa, please let us discuss this with out making false accusations. Can I ask Lisa, how many times have we discussed this and I made it very clear that its judgement by fire that purifies not only the believer, but also the unbeliever. So how is it that I promoting no punishment? Lisa, if what I believe frustrates please dont let it come to false accusations.

Lisa, you said, *I would suggest to argue passages but do not promote "universalism."*
---Billy on 12/21/06


(2). Lisa, if I see the salvation of all in Gods word, I have a right to speak! You know that there are those that dont see what we see in scripture about Gods Sovereignty, and yes they would for us to shut our mouths. But we speak because God has shown us this truth. I speak because I believe that God has a greater purpose than tormenting most of his creation for all eternity. I have the liberty to speak just as you do, God bless
---Billy on 12/21/06


Lisa; Good to be on the inside where you know all the secrets of God,huh? Maybe you'll be good enough to answer my Q. Where does it say in Isa.33 that it's describing hell?
---1st_cliff on 12/20/06


Lisa, some sinners are still blind to it, they may have a religous(pharasee) type of spirit or mind set, so they are still blind to things
God only knows who those people are
---mark_B. on 12/20/06


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.billy, He surely does, and all to his glory and good pleasure.
---Eloy on 12/20/06


2. Luke 8:10, speaks to believers, To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God; but to the others they are in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not hear." I only pray that the eyes and ears of your understanding are opened by God to His Word, "Scripture."
---lisa on 12/20/06


Billy, I did not miss anything in Isa.33: Verse 15 is talking about the righeous. Not the unrighteous. The only survivors in the presence of the Almighty will be the righteous, for they were imputed the righteousness of Christ when they came to faith. (Pss.15:1-5; 24:3,4). Verse 16, place of defense..bread..water" is for those who are right with God and will enjoy perfect security and ample provisions. (32:15, 17, 18).
---lisa on 12/20/06


2. The unrighteous are not in the presence of God, but separated eternally from Him. You have to read the whole context of what is written Billy. Again I say you are promoting no punishment, but ultimate salvation to everyone, which is completely contrary to Scripture teaching, and the penalty for those who have been enlighten and trample God's Word will receive a worse punishment. I would suggest to argue passages but do not promote "universalism."
---lisa on 12/20/06


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Peter, you are wrong, you were put here because of God. Every person born has no say where they are born, or even the choice to be born to whom they are born. You said it is the divine plan that we have created with our minds. How can it be a divine plan if you created in your mind? It is a divine plan and you have no say in it whatsoever. What God purposed is coming to pass and it will end they way He has ordained it to end. He already knows how many, and who they are that will believe.
---lisa on 12/20/06


2. nothing you do will change the divine plan of God. Christianity is not "dualism." We do not believe in two ultimate equal forces locked in an eternal struggle or battle, for supremacy. If Satan were equal to God, we would have no confidence, no hope of good triumphing over evil. Satan is evil to be sure, but even his evil is subject to the sovereignty of God, as our own evil. God's authority is ultimate His power is Omnipotent, He is Sovereign, or else He is not God.
---lisa on 12/20/06


God bless you to Eloy...
---Billy on 12/20/06


You are very deceived in believing hell, Satan and demons are a misperception. Scripture is very specific and GOD's word ISN'T wrong. If you believe what you've said you do not believe the Holy Word of GOD.
---Terry on 12/20/06


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Everything that has "happened" or is "happening" is all part of the devine plan that we have created for ourselves. This "age" is an awakening (the second coming of CHRIST). LET the light of CHRIST that has allways been shine through your false creations. We have to be think more christ-like, I shouldn't say have to because it is our will to do so. You might think that GOD put you here against your will, but you have FREE WILL. PEACE.
---peter8365 on 12/20/06


1st Cliff, this scripture tells us a lot about when the fire has done its job.

Pro 26:20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

I know that there will be some that say that I take this out of context but the truth is there. The fire is there for a purpose, and when the wood, hay, and stubble are destroyed "ash", the fire goes out.
---Billy on 12/19/06


Lisa, I dont think my 1st of 2 posts made it, so all it said was that you should have read the next verse "verse 15" of Isa. 33, which says who dwells in the everlasting burnings. Its he that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly. God bless
---Billy on 12/19/06


.billy, you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 12/19/06


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Heres another scripture that Faith used on "Is Punishment Forever" blog.

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet . . .

Thanks Faith!
---Billy on 12/19/06


1st cliff, when man tries to analize and scrutinize and theologize and dissect God's word down into it's very minute particles, and then study it under a magnifying scope and conclude, Aha! I got it! Then they have missed the whole truth, for by straining out the gnat they have swallowed a camel. God's word is so simple and pure, that even a small child is able understand. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 12/19/06


1/ Lisa, I have yet to meet anyone on this site who takes lightly the word of God. God*s word is spiritual because God is Spirit and we must worship God in spirit and truth. John 4:24. Not only is God Spirit, God is also a consuming fire. Hebrew 12:29. Thus, God is that Spiritually Confusing Fire that burns ALL of us, including those who think they are born again or children of God through adoption or heirship! Lisa, here is a secret: a physical fire cannot burn an invisible spirit!!!
---I_AM_I on 12/19/06


2/ Lisa, hell is WITHIN, just like the Kingdom of God (Luke 17:21) and THE CHRIST, as Paul has said. All of us, including those born again, must carry our cross like Yeshua and manifest THE CHRIST on earth! If we do not manifest THE CHRIST on earth, how can we do GREATER works than Yeshua who manifested THE CHRIST on earth? Do you believe that so-called sinners can do greater works than the SINLESS Christ?
---I_AM_I on 12/19/06


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Lisa; Where does Isa 33.mention that it's describing "hell"? assumption? Whatever has been consumed with fire turns to ashes and no longer exists. The fire can last indefinitely but not that which it has consumed!
---1st_cliff on 12/19/06


(2). Lisa,

[15] He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;

Lisa, its he that walketh righteously that will dwell with the devouring fire and with everlasting burnings. Lisa, I know why this is, can you tell me why? God bless.
---Billy on 12/19/06


So, do you think Christains are good people because they are afraid to go to Hell, or are they good because they truly want to be good? If there was no hell, would you still be a good person?
---sue on 12/19/06


5. All those that make a mockery of God's Words are speaking against a Holy Almighty God that takes things serious in our behavior and our acts towards His Holy Word. If we change anything to fit our conception or understanding and teach it to others we are like those Hebrews in chapter 10:29; "Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot..."
---lisa on 12/19/06


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3. Can you think of words that carry with them greater examples of contempt, hatred, and fierceness of indignation? This is God's design and what He has determined to show how dreadful the unrestrained anger, and fury and fierceness of Jehovah is. We well witness this dreadful act of God brought to pass. When the great and angry God has risen up and executed His vengeance on the sinner, and the wretch is actually suffering the infinite weight and power of His indignation,
---lisa on 12/19/06


4. God will then call upon the whole universe to behold His majesty and mighty power. Isaiah 33:12-14 speaks or declares, "And the people shall be like the burning of lime; like thorns cut up they shall be burned in the fire. Hear, you who are afar off, what I have done; And you who are near, acknowledg My might. The sinners inin Zion are afraid; Fearfulness has sized the hypocrites: Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fiar? Who among us shall dwell with everlasting burning?
---lisa on 12/19/06


In the words of John Paul II "Hell does not exist as a place. Both Heaven and Hell are states of being". He also said "rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all love and joy". and "hell is not a punishment imposed externally by God, but a developement of premises already set by people in this life". I hope John Paul II was a good person to quote out of so many. PEACE.
---Peter8365 on 12/19/06


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