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Adam's Disobedience Forgiven

Was Adam's disobedience forgiven or paid for?

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 ---Ryan on 12/26/06
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Adam had to pay the price for letting Eve eat from the tree of good and evil. It sounds like in the Bible that he watched the entire thing because all of sudden he was standing there and Eve gave the apple to him and he ate. Adam was commanded by God not to eat from the tree of good and evil. Eve was not made until after the fact. Whatever the case we all paid the price.
---tonne on 8/2/07


Ryan: The answer your question is yes ! Jesus paid for everyone's disobedience (sin: past present & future), at Calvary.

As a child I was taught, in Sunday school, the fruit was an apple . Today, I believe no matter what kind of fruit it was, it was appeal ing enough for A&E to eat it.

John: I also believe Adam, by faith, was redeemed. I see his residual influence (teaching) on Abel choosing to respect God with his righteous offering. (Gen. 4:4; Heb. 11:4)
---Leon on 1/17/07


For Heaven's Sake, what brought President Bush into this blog? It was going well and very interesting until that!
---Pat on 1/15/07


Hiding behind politics. It is a religion for alot of people.
---Charlie on 1/15/07


Anonymous , I don't mean to be rude; but, just what are you hiding from?
---Leon on 1/14/07




Adam was a coward as Bush is a coward. I do not call hiding from God a very brave man. I do not call blaming his wife and God a very brave man but a coward. As for Bush and Dick they are users of widows and orphans. A man should be cursed for using a woman for anything
---anonymous on 1/14/07


"Kay - Like heaps of other things, the false impression that it was eating an apple comes from the RCC. You see to say that Adam and Eve ate an apple leaves the whole sin issue alone!"

Helen_5378, I wonder why it has to be an apple?! It sounds like a Walt Disney movie. My mother jokes around about the forbidden fruit being passion fruit.
---Kay on 12/31/06


Kay, you are correct, it is 1Jn.3:12. (my last mistake this year..ha). It doesn't specifically say "the devil" there but I do believe Satan was in the serpent. And I may be in the minority but I believe they lived in the garden completely until removed after the sin. It was a big garden including all things of God. The "trees" were in the midst of the garden and that was where He put man (Gen.2:8-10,15-17, etc). I have no proof man was not allowed outside though.
---mikefl on 12/31/06


mikefl, where in Timothy does it state that Cain was of the wicked one? I think you are confusing Timothy with John. 1 John 3:12 says that Cain was of the devil, the wicked one.

"As the son of Adam, Abel offered the more perfect sacrifice. There was much in the Garden for Eve and Adam to repent for."

Do you believe that Cain murdered Abel in the Garden?
---Kay on 12/30/06


Kay, seeing that the serpent/satan was the wicked one and Tim. says Cain was of the wicked one would shed much light on why his (Cain)offering was not accepted by God. As the son of Adam, Abel offered the more perfect sacrifice. There was much in the Garden for Eve and Adam to repent for.
---mikefl on 12/30/06




Kay - Like heaps of other things, the false impression that it was eating an apple comes from the RCC. You see to say that Adam and Eve ate an apple leaves the whole sin issue alone!
---Helen_5378 on 12/30/06


"Kay, the fruit was a pair and the wicked one was the serpent."

mikefl, I know that the "wicked one" was the serpent (Satan). Tonne made it sound as though Eve was called the "wicked one".

"If the fruit was eating an apple as others say, why doesn't eating apples open people's eyes to their nudity today as the "fruit" of KNOWledge did in the garden."

I was thinking the same thing.
---Kay on 12/29/06


Kay, the fruit was a pair and the wicked one was the serpent. If the fruit was eating an apple as others say, why doesn't eating apples open people's eyes to their nudity today as the "fruit" of KNOWledge did in the garden.
---mikefl on 12/29/06


"Eve did stray from Adam. In Timothy it states that Cain was of the wicked one. Eve was not without sin." --tonne

What?!? No where in the Bible does it say that Eve strayed away from Adam, or that Eve is called the "wicked one".
---Kay on 12/29/06


"It sounds like in the Bible that he watched the entire thing because all of sudden he was standing there and Eve gave the apple to him and he ate."-tonne

Why does everyone assume that the fruit was an apple?
---Kay on 12/29/06


Bob, I have to ask, Where does scripture say Eve only "touched" the "fruit"? Where does scripture say God's glory left them? Where does it say Adam added to God's word? And why do you not see that Eve was a part of Adam before God separated them therefore she would have known God's word to Adam? Finally if Adam was to exercise authority over what God made, wouldn't he give his life to protect Eve from her mistake (just as Jesus has us)?
---mikefl on 12/28/06


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Read the account in Genesis. God told Adam to not eat of the fruit of the tree. Eve told the serpent that they should not eat of the fruit or even touch it or they would die. The serpent tricked her into touching the fruit and of course nothing happened. Not until she and Adam ate the fruit did the glory of God leave them. Adam was to exercise proper authority over all that God had made. Adam added to the words that God had spoken to him concerning the fruit.
---Bob on 12/28/06


Eve did stray from Adam. In Timothy it states that Cain was of the wicked one. Eve was not without sin.
---tonne on 12/28/06


john: Adams punishment came because he knowingly disobeyed God. God directly commanded Adam not to eat from the tree of good and evil. Eve wasn't made yet.
---tonne on 12/28/06


Through free will, Eve did indeed stray from her true love, Adam and was beguiled by the words of the Serpent. Adam could not deny her that free will as she would have been nothing but his slave. Yet, he partook of the fruit the same way serpent had shown Eve. He knew they were wrong. They feared God and hid their nakedness. Eve was cursed in childbearing and Adam in labor of the ground. They died because of their sin but because they never stopped believing in God, they were forgiven.
---mikefl on 12/27/06


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Adam's sin was forgiven but the consequence remains in our mortal flesh, in pain in childbirth, and in having to work the ground for our food, and in natural a death, a law which God has to allow or loose his claim to holiness.

The sin of Adam follows the same "discipline" a believer receives, that it's IN THIS LIFE, and not in death.

This is the evidence of God's reconciliation to Adam, open your eyes and see that he is forgiven.

Man is punished for unbelief, see John 3.
---Pharisee on 12/27/06


This is the question bringing Christ's humanity into dispute. The Catholic's tried to deal with it by saying Mary was divine, and the evangelicals say it's because he had no human Father.

Either way it is as the scripture says he was "born under the law to save those under the law." He didn't save us from natural DEATH, but endured one himself.

The fact that he died a mortal death is proof that he was made as we are. ("yet without sin") Human death is the product of sin.
---Pharisee on 12/27/06


tonne. There is no Scriptural evidence that Adam's punishment was for letting Eve eat of the fruit. Eve was also told not to eat of the fruit. She admitted that to the seprpent. She ate, he ate, and the two of them both sinned. Both their punishments were for eating the fruit.
I can't tell if Adam ever repented but I suspect he did.
---john on 12/27/06


First let me say, GREAT QUESTION Great insight. First his disobedience was for given. But later in life he would pay dearly, as do all who followed him for his disobedience. Again a fabulous question as good as I have seen on the blogs.
---Mima on 12/26/06


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