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Did Adam Really Sin

Where is the scripture that says Adam sinned? All I have found is he transgressed and was disobedient, but I haven't found a scripture that said he sinned. Could he have not sinned because it was not until his disobedience that sin and death entered the world?

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please read romans 5,14

never the less death reigned from the time of adam to the time of moses,even over those who did not sin by breaking a command,as did adam

as a pattern then the one to come was jesus
who was sinless see

the whole thing about adam sinning is a lie brought to the church to keep it down that is why there is no holyness as there should be
we are to be perfect as our father is perfect but satan does not want that to be so the lie is you cant be...
---james on 7/16/10

Dear Ryan,

When the scriptures speak of transgression, or to transgress this means to sin. Sin is to break the law. Transgressing the law means to break the law.

Strongs definition:
` peh'-shah - Greek word
from 6586(Strongs number), a revolt (national, moral or religious):--rebellion, sin, transgression, trespass.

Hope this is helpful.
---trey on 8/24/09

Eve first disobeyed God, partaking of the forbidden fruit then gives to Adam.
Some people dont know about this scripture, 1st. Tim.2 v 14.
---Lawrence on 8/24/09

They disobeyed the Lord by violating Genesis 2:16-17.
He disobeyed God, in Genesis 3:17, by obeying and subordinating himself to his wife, a violated of Gods' order. A few people believe that he violated Genesis 2:15 by not guarding the garden.
The fruit represents doing something that was contrary to Gods will, or sin.
Both the Angels and men were given free will which allowed them to obey or disobey God. Luke 10:18, 2Peter 2:4, Jude 1:6, Revelations 12:9 / Genesis 4:6-10, Deuteronomy 28, John 7:17.

Revelations 22:21. -Glenn
---Glenn on 4/13/09

Ryan, Thanks for asking the question. But I feel that you have not read the first 3 chapters of the Bible, or otherwise you would know the whole truth. Sin is defined as disobeying God. Gen 2:17 God said not to eat that fruit. In Gen 3:6 both Eve and Adam ate the fruit from the tree. (they did wrong by what God told them, which is sin)....Also, Genesis 2:15 "Then the LORD God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it." Adam was already working in the Garden of Eden before the Fall of Man. You may be talking about Genesis 3:17-19 where God drove man out to work the fields to work out the thorns and thistles which is much more hard labor.
---Ronald on 11/25/08

God makes it quite clear that if you sin (in the O.T) you might for example kill someone, as Cain did, but the sin would not mean that your children would pay for the sins of the parents. In the same way Jesus was not to pay for the sins of mankind but to show mankind how to be better humans and how to be good, and how to deserve Salvation. It is no good believing in Jesus only and not listening and obeying what he taught. I am the Way, meaning Jesus' s example is the Way and also that through Jesus we will be judged worthy or unworthy and sent to Heaven or Hell. It was Caiaphas who judged Jesus to be the sacrificial lamb. God was against human sacrifice.
---frances008 on 10/20/08

Because of Satan, the rebellious and fallen angel, earth had sin here, waiting to find a gap to enter mankind. Adam sinned in disobeying God following the voice of the devil to Eve. The problem in the world is the devil, and we listen to the devil over and above our conscience. It is all the more dangerous when some 'Christians' say that we can sin, obey the devil and still be saved. There is forgiveness but God is not going to be mocked. If there were no fruits then the branches are burnt. If the seed is a weed then it is gathered and burnt at the harvest time.
---frances008 on 10/19/08

Sin, as defined in the bible, is the transgression of the law... God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit, yet they did, so they transgressed or disobeyed his law -- therefore they sinned.
---manny on 10/16/08

Transgressions and disobedience are sin. We suffer the consequences of sin if we disobey God, right?

Could he have not sinned? Of course he could have NOT sinned, but he did.

You say, it was not until his disobedience that sin and death entered the world. Actually it was Adam's outright rebellion to God that was the REAL sin here. God told Adam not to eat from that tree. If you study the scriptures, you will see that Adam NEVER told Eve what God told him. Adam knew ahead of time not to eat from that tree and he did it anyway-outright rebellion to God and rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
---donna8365 on 10/14/08

Adam & Eve Both knew not to partake of the forbidden fruit. Eve would rather listen to the devil & Not God. She partook of the fist bite & then gave it to Adam,Adam knew better. If Adam had Not partook of the forbidden fruit,I think we'd be living like they were in the garden. (I'm Not referring to the idea of nakendness etc) We would Not have to be working for our keep. The first curse went to Eve,the pain etc in bearing children. Then the curse came to Adam,earn by the sweat of your brow. I sure wished Eve would have listened to God & Not the deciever.
---Lawrence on 10/13/08

Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
---Bruce5656 on 9/2/07

Romans 5:14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

15But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
---kathr4453 on 1/12/07

God commanded the man being Adam not to eat from the tree of good and evil. When Eve offered him the apple he ate of the tree, he rebelled against what God told him not to do. When you go against what God tells you your in direct rebellion of God's will. He knew not to eat from the tree but he did so anyway. A command given from God is to be highly respected and feared.
---tonne on 1/11/07

"Jesus disobey by allowing Himself to be killed to place Himself before our sins."

Mikefl, Jesus didn't sin by allowing Himself to be killed for our sins. Sin is the disobedience of God's will. Jesus dying for our sins was in the will of God before the world was created. The purpose of Jesus coming to Earth was to die for our sins and then be resurrected. Just a little reminder: God knows the future and prepares Himself in advance.
---Kay on 1/11/07

Ryan, I read what you put down and please Ryan, do you take me for a fool? What is transgression against God? Sin Ryan. He was commanded to not eat of the fruit. He had no sin nature as the lost do, so he wasn't enslaved to sin as the lost. At least the lost are born with that sin nature but Adam had no excuse whatsoever, if you want to give excuses for the lost, which I don't since they love what they do and what they do they do it out of their hearts and deserve what they get.
---lisa on 1/11/07

2. Was Adam tempted by Satan? No. Eve was. If anyone had an excuse it was Eve though she did disobey and was just as guilty. Yet disobeyed because the snake was very smart. Instead of been angry at Eve for disobeying, he took of the same fruit. He had no excuse whatsoever. Now after saying all this, did God know they would sin? Of course He did. He knows all. It wasn't the fruit that was important, it was the transgression against God. Disobeying God.
---lisa on 1/11/07

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4. They both were under a covenant of works and obedience. Obey and have eternal life, disobey, brought death. He disobeyed God and by doing so, he brought death and sin to all his discendents. Very simple message and you can change it and form it the way you want but nevertheless he sinned against God.
---lisa on 1/11/07

Ryan, saying that someone has transgressed or has been disobedient to God is the same as saying that they have sinned. Sin is the transgression of the law. I don't understand how you can believe that Adam's disobedience to God wasn't considered sin. We sin anytime we do contrary to what God has said. The Bible says that the wages of SIN is death. God said to Adam, "..but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely DIE (Gen 2:17).
---Kay on 1/11/07

Ryan, the moment Adam ate of the fruit he died spiritually. And physical death was now in his future. Why did he die? Because he sinned by disobeying God's commandment regarding the tree of knowledge. Remember, the wages of SIN IS DEATH.
---Kay on 1/11/07

Romans 5:12 says, "Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and DEATH BY SIN; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned."

The word "world" here refers to the inhabitants of the Earth. Sin was actually brought to Earth by Satan, but it was passed down to us by Adam. So sin was on Earth dwelling in Satan before the Fall of man.
---Kay on 1/11/07

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lisa, you're right. Keep up the good work! :)
---Kay on 1/11/07

lisa, once again your not in line with scripture because the action that Adam took to partake of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is NEVER refered to as sin, in the Holy Scriptures. It is always refered to as a transgression. Why? Because sin had not yet entered the world. If sin had not yet entered the world than it is not biblicaly accurate to say Adam sinned. That is why he TRANSGRESSED.
---Ryan on 1/10/07

Yes Ryan, Adam did really sin. Let me explain to you Ryan what sin is. Sin in the simplist biblical terms is "to miss the mark." The mark that is missed is not a target filled with straw. It is the mark or "norm" of God's law. God's law expresses His own righteousness and is the ultimate standard for our behavior. The bible speaks of the universality of sin in terms of missing the mark of God's glory. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
---lisa on 1/10/07

2. Sin of "Omission" is failure to do what God commands. If God commands us to love our neighbor and we fail to do so, that is sin. God commanded Adam to not eat of the fruit, that was total disobedience to the command of God. He also walked where it was not commited for him to walk. When we speak of sin of commision it is when we trespass where we are told not to go. If God says "You shall not" and we do what is disallowed, we commit sin.
---lisa on 1/10/07

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3. The moral laws of God is His very nature. And we as moral agents have a mind and a will, we are capable of going against God's very nature when we sin. When we do what we know is wrong, we choose to disobey God's law and sin.
---lisa on 1/10/07

I thought sin and transgressed are the same thing. Adam did wrong by chosing to do as Eve did. When God called n said "Where r u Adam" what He meant was where Adam's faith lied and what Adam has chosen to do. 2b obedient or not.
---granny on 1/9/07

Adam sinned by disobeying God. God told Adam not to eat of the fruit of the tree. Adam ate the apple anyway. When he did that he sinned grievously against the Lord.
---Ruthie on 1/9/07

In Genesis 2 God commanded the man not to eat from the tree of good and evil. Adam ate from the tree. Eve enticed him. It is a sin to go against the commands of God. It does not state that God or Adam told Eve about the tree of good and evil. In fact when God addresses Eve he asked "What have you done?" It almost sounds like God was suprised. Then Adam was all of sudden standing there watching and allowing her to eat. Why would a loving husband allow that?
---tonne on 1/9/07

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tonne, the problem is no one can provide a scripture that states Adam's transgression as a sin. Everything that is presented is conjecture based on general principals. So until the scripture is presented that partaking of the fruit was sin it would be wise for all to refer to the partaking of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil as a transgression; like the bible does.
---Ryan on 1/4/07

#2 tonne, this way we do not get extrabiblical teachings like 'original sin'. We than, will corrctly say we are all condemned for a transgression. All have sinned because through one transgression sin and death entered the world. It was not until the transgression that sin entered than it is biblically inaccurate to say Adam sinned by partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, because through that act sin entered.
---Ryan on 1/4/07

Adam really did sin because he knowingly ate from the tree after God commanded him not to.
It does not state that Adam or God told the woman about the fruit. Why? After the serpent tricked Eve she offered the fruit to her husband. Why was he all of sudden standing there?
---tonne on 1/4/07

earl, that is an interesting perspective, thank you.
---Ryan on 1/3/07

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greetings.for ryan.To split hairs.There is a difference.Sin(Lucifer's total rebellion[mutiny]) is the highest charge.And,there is, the way of the transgressor[without mutiny](Adam and Eve).The government courts of God decides which is what.Adam and Eve did not go into rebellion[mutiny] and were not charged with rebellion but with transgression the lesser charge.Sin is generalized by christianity as breaking any law or thinking to break a law of God.Man does not have the power to cause a mutiny in heaven.
---earl on 1/2/07

death,physical death became a reality as a result of adams and eves fall,sin.adam didn,t die the day he ate,he died spiritually that day,but he did die spiortually that day ,and physically some 900 odd years later.any other statement is pure nonsense,and non scriptural.
---tom2 on 1/1/07

I love the story of Adam & Eve. Eve represents the Bride ( bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh), and Adam a type of Christ who laid down his life for his bride.
Ephesians says, We are bone of His Bone and Flesh of His flesh. Jesus laid down His life for His Bride, the Church. The story of redemption started right there in the very beginning of Genesis.
---kathr4453 on 1/1/07

#2 This brings up another very important fact. Abortion is murder. That which God has conceived and given birth to (eternal life), He will never abort or kill. Those IN CHRIST are bone of His bone and flesh of His flesh.
Life begins at conception Yes. Isn't that why abortion is murder. Can't have it both ways. Born Again is OSAS.
---kathr4453 on 1/1/07

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eloy, adam died SPIRITUALLY at the moment he ate and disobeyed God.had nothing to do with a day is 1000 years to man and 1 day to God. actually time is only relavent to us.time and space mean nothing to God.ITS ONLY A REFERENCE POINT TO THE physical presence we live in,has notta do do with God.adam diid die spiritually the moment he ate,then he lived 930 years,which actually is nothing to God but refered to as 1000 years so we might have a concept that time doesn,t affect God.
---tom2 on 1/1/07

.tom2, many profess the false doctrine that Adam did not physically die the day he ate of the forbidden fruit, but according to God he did, for 1 day to God in heaven is equal to 1000 years on earth to man, and since Adam died at 930 years, then Adam died the day he ate of the forbidden tree. This is scriptural truth and not infantile, this fact only becomes infantile and nonsensical to the nonbeliever, as all the things of God are top the nonbeliever.
---Eloy on 12/31/06

.tom2, many profess the false doctrine that Adam did not physically die the day he ate of the forbidden fruit, but according to God he did, for 1 day to God in heaven is equal to 1000 years on earth to man, and since Adam died at 930 years, then Adam died the day he ate of the forbidden tree. This is scriptural truth and not infantile, this fact only becomes infantile and nonsensical to the nonbeliever, as all the things of God are to the nonbeliever.
---Eloy on 12/31/06

eloy,what does a 1000 years ,or adams 930 years have to do with this question? and friend to say adam died 1 day after he said is infantile thinking in human terms. 1000 years may be 1 day to God but to you,me adam, and every other human who has ever lived its still 1000 years.
---tom2 on 12/30/06

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ryan, whether you realizr it or not discbidience is is transgression,when you disobey God, and make a choice against his word you have discbeyed ,and transgressed. BOTH ARE SIN.
---tom2 on 12/30/06

ryan, also the word discbey means you have done something you were told not to do,which against God is SIN.discbey God and you have sinned,the act of discbidience is the transgression.
---tom2 on 12/30/06

ryan, you seem to want to separtate the words discbey and transgression, from the word sin. and thats impossible. to sin you must discbey,and when you discbey you have transgressed.PERIOD.
---tom2 on 12/30/06

.tom2, God did not say to Adam that in the day that he eats the forbidden fruit that he will "spiritually" die, but he said, "even the same day you eat, of it you will, dying you will die." Genesis 2:17. And 1000 years on earth is equal to 1 day to God in heaven; Adam died at 930 years of age, thus according to God he died the day he ate the forbidden fruit.
---Eloy on 12/30/06

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tom2, your conclusion is based on conjecture. You are equating disobedience to sin. Do the words sin, transgression and disobedience all share the same definition? And no one has produced a scripture stating that Adam's disobedience was sin. Which would be incosistent with scripture because sin didn't enter until Adam's transgression. This is, of course, not a major issue I am merely making an observation and wanted other input.
---Ryan on 12/30/06

Ryan: Romans 5:12-21 .

The Bible (Word of God) says what it says, no more or less. We can easily get off track if we read into scripture (overthink/state, eisege) more than has been said. The Bible says sin, transgression & disobedience are the same.
---Leon on 12/30/06

ryan . adam did sin. God told him not to eat the fruit or he would die. God meant spiritual death.scripture tells us that by one man(adam) sin came into the world, and by one man (jesus)the world is saved from this sin.only jesus was without adam was without sin until he disobeyed and ate.then we all became sinners because of adam,but we can all be saved because of jesus.
---tom2 on 12/30/06

In it's simplest form, "sin" means "wrong"; "crooked"; "not straight". The opposite of righteous is sinuous, therefore trangression and disobedience is sin.
---Eloy on 12/29/06

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Adam disobeded God by touching the first Tithe. This was the first sin.
---Leslie on 12/29/06

After Adam sinned or transgressed by eating the forbidden fruit, God made them a covering for their bodies from the skins of animals. This was the first blood sacrifice. The animals had to die to get the skins. The skins covered their sinful flesh through the shed blood of the sacrifice. Adam and Eve had to know about the importance of the shed blood because they taught it to their children, Cain & Abel. Remember Heb. 9:22 - "without shedding of blood is no remission."
---Debbie on 12/29/06

Rom.5:14 says Adam sinned. All transgression and disobedience is sin. It is missing the mark. Just different ways of saying the same thing.I believe "Adam" means first human and refers to both male and female for both their names were Adam in the garden. Gen. 5:1-3
---john on 12/29/06

Better question;

where in the scripture does it say he would not be forgiven?

He's punished, we know that, but how about forgiven?
---Pharisee on 12/29/06

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'Transgression' as used in reference to Adam in Romans 5:14: parabasis {par-ab'-as-is}
1) a going over
2) metaph. a disregarding, violating
a) of the Mosaic law
b) the breach of a definite, promulgated, ratified law
c) to create transgressions, i.e. that sins might take on the character of transgressions, and thereby the consciousness of sin be intensified and the desire for redemption be aroused
---Ryan on 12/29/06

'Sinned' as used in reference to all humanity in Romans 3:23: hamartano {ham-ar-tan'-o}
1) to be without a share in
2) to miss the mark
3) to err, be mistaken
4) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
5) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin
---Ryan on 12/29/06

Two completely different words. So since sin had not entered the world and there is no scripture refering to Adam sinning must we than conclude that Adam did not sin. If Adam did not sin than no one is guilty of ADam's sin. We are all judged for his transgression (parabasis). But we cannot be held accountable for the sin of the father. So it must be important to know that Adam did not sin because sin had not entered the world until he transgressed.
---Ryan on 12/29/06

Ryan, would you please give us your definition of the word 'sin'? How does it differ from the words 'disobedience' and 'transgression'?
---m.p.a. on 12/29/06

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Transgression, disobedience, sin, the words are synonymous. Sin can be defined as a transgression of the law, an error in judgement based on defined divine principles & missing the mark or standard set by the Father. The Fathers word sets His standard, Adam fell short of that standard thru disobedience. Thus Adam sinned.
---Josef on 12/29/06

Adam sinned in the sense he disobeyed God's word. Whether what Adam did was justified is another question. I feel he sinned to place himself before Eve. Just as did Jesus disobey by allowing Himself to be killed to place Himself before our sins. Was that taking His own life? Maybe, but it was justified.
---mikefl on 12/28/06

What do you think a transgression is? It's a violation of God's law. Sin.

You're overthinking the scriptures. Adam sinned.
---Joel on 12/28/06

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