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Jesus Teen Years

Are you ever curious about Jesus' teen and early adult years before His public ministry began? Some say it isn't important, but others believe every day of His earthly life was important to believers and long to know about those years. Do you ever wonder about them?

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willow, It's true you can tell the ones who have pride. The only way Mrs. Morgan and Eloy can look good is by trying to make others look bad. They seem to be under some delusion of grandeur that THEY are the only ones who Love the Lord. Comparing themselves to themselves is rebuked in the beginning of Romans. They are called pharisees.
---Laura on 9/9/07


A man that has friends must show himself friendly; and there is a Friend that sticks closer than a brother.

Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

O Lord, art a shield for me; my Glory, and the lifter up of mine head.

For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart is perfect toward Him.
---Trace on 1/26/07


The Lord your God which goes before you, He shall fight for you, according to all that He did for you in Egypt before your eyes.

The Lord is faithful, who shall establish you, and keep you from evil.

For you have been a shelter for me, and a strong tower from the enemy.

For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous,His ears are open to their prayers; but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
Who is he that will harm you, if you be followers of that which is good?
---Trace on 1/26/07


Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
to an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fades not away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
---Trace on 1/26/07


All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man; but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
---Trace on 1/26/07




And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.

For the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death.

Now the Lord is that Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty.

For You have broken the yoke of his burden and the staff of his shoulder,
The rod of his oppressor,
as in the day of Midian.
---Trace on 1/26/07


Believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God;
many false prophets are gone out into the world.

This is the message which we have heard of Him, declare unto you, that God is Light, and in Him is no darkness at all.
If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
But if we walk in the Light, as He is in the Light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.
---Trace on 1/26/07


I believe every time we talk about God is because we love to talk about God and we never get bored. Anything we can learn each day only builds our faith in Christ. No one should ever get bored listening or talking about God. Whatever the subject might be. To dicuss Scripture with other brothers or sisters is the greatest desire we could have. A true believe will go to the Bible to make sure what is said is correct. It gives one a desire to know more about God.
---lisa on 1/26/07


Huh, well I guess lisa wore you out. It wears me out too. It's about as interesting as watching paint dry.
---anonymous on 1/25/07


Am I curious about Jesus' teen years? Somewhat I am. Not that much though.
---Matthew on 1/25/07




Matthew, what say you?
---anonymous on 1/25/07


The teen years are not in the Bible.

AlwaysOn, what say you?
---Todd on 1/24/07


Thank you Todd for the speaking about Christ. Though you put down a lot of Jesus but the question was of Jesus teen years. I don't believe you were on the subject of His teen years that the question was about. I would love to hear about those years Todd if you have anything on them. Peace
---lisa on 1/24/07


Whoops, you were answering your question.
---anonymous on 1/24/07


AlwaysOn, there are many more parables of Jesus Christ.

The ministry of Jesus Christ is awesome.



Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.


Jesus says, remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the Word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct. Heb13:7


AlwaysOn, all the days of Jesus' public ministry are important.


What have you learned from His public ministry?
---Todd on 1/23/07


The quesion on this blog has nothing to do with lisa's take. As you take your takes from whatever you take your takes from, take a look and stay on topic. The teen years of Jesus and His public ministry have zip to do with your take.
---Todd on 1/23/07


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The public ministry of Jesus Christ:

Jesus said - All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen Matthew28:18-20
---Todd on 1/23/07


The miracles of Jesus Christ:

Cleansing a Leper Matt 8:2

Stilling the storm Matt 8:23

Healing two blind men Matt 9:27

Feeding five thousand Matt 14:13

Walking on the sea Matt 14:25

Healing epileptic boy Matt 17:14

Tax in fish's mouth Matt 17:24
---Todd on 1/23/07


The Miracles of Jesus Christ

Withering the fig tree Matt 21:18

Casting out unclean spirit Mark 1:23

Healing a deaf mute Mark 7:31

Healing paralytic Mark 8:22

Raising widow's son Luke 7:11

Cleansing ten lepers Luke 17:11

Restoring ear Luke 22:51

Turning water to wine John 2:1

Raising Lazarus John 11:43
---Todd on 1/23/07


The Parables of Jesus Christ

Lamp under a basket Mt 5:14-16

Wise man builds on
rock, foolish man
builds on sand Mt 7:24-27

New wine in old
wineskins Mt 9:17

The sower Mt 13:3-23

The weeds Mt 13:24-30

The mustard seed Mt 13:31,32

The leaven Mt 13:33

The hidden treasure Mt 13:44

Pearl of great price Mt 13:45,46
---Todd on 1/23/07


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The parables of Jesus Christ:

Lost sheep Mt 18:12-14


Unforgiving servant Mt 18:23-35


Workers in the
vineyard Mt 20:1-16


Two sons Mt 21:28-32

Wicked vinedressers Mt 21:33-45


Wedding Feast Mt 22:2-14


Fig tree Mt 24:32-44


Wise/foolish virgins Mt 25:1-13


The talents Mt 25:14-30


---Todd on 1/23/07


It is one of the best passages in scripture Lisa, agreed.
---Mattthew on 1/23/07


Matthew that is a great passage you gave. It confirms the work God does to the born again believer in keeping him even in trials and circumstances. He will never let you go Matthew even when you are in sin, He will rescue you, not wanting that any should perish. He loses none of them. Pretty clear to me about the state of our assurance. If God didn't interfere we would for sure be lost. A great and wonderful God we have. That should build our faith even more to know He is there for us.
---lisa on 1/23/07


1 Corinth 10:13 "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." Very true. God has saved me more than once from commiting a sin I feared I couldn't say no to by calling upon Him faith for his help.
---Matthew on 1/22/07


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Hello Bruce, thanks for your answer. Let me give you my take on temptation from the passage you gave. James 1:14. In the context of what James wrote if you go to 1:13 The greek word translated (trials). James point is that every difficult circumstance that enters a believer's life can either strenghten him if he obeys God and remains confident in His care, or becomes evil if the believer chooses instead to doubt God and disobey His Word.
---lisa on 1/22/07


2. "His own desires" this refers to lust, the strong desire of the human soul to enjoy or acquire something to fufill the flesh. Those desires are sinful. Man's fallen nature has the strong desire whatever sin will satisfy it. "His own desires" describes the indiviual nature of lust-which is different with each person as a result of inherited tendences, enviroment, or even upbringing.
---lisa on 1/22/07


3. Then when desire has conceived, it give birth to sin; here the desire conceives. already in made. gives birth to sin; and sin when it is full-grown brings forth death. The greek words for "has conceived" and "bring forth" is like the process to physical conception and birth. So James personifies temptation and show that it can follow a similar sequence and produce sin with all it's deadly results. We give way to sin, we allow it to rule our lives,
---lisa on 1/22/07


4. we allow it to rule our lives, by giving way to sin, means that it is already conceived. In the life of Christ, He was tempted but His temptation came from the devil and not from His own desires for He did not have a sin nature. He was perfect and without sin Himself. Very different then man's sin nature that is at emnity against God. We should not allow sin to conquer us.
---lisa on 1/22/07


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If Jesus was tempted many times and temptation is a sin... No, it is not
as such but rather as James tells it.
Sin is the fruit of temptation.
---NanaH on 1/22/07


Thanks Bruce I'm glad someone understands.
---Matthew on 1/22/07


PART THREE:
According to what you have said, any such thoughts are sin the moment they surface. What then is temptation?
When temptation says "Woulden't it be nice?" and the old man says, "Yes, I wish I could..." that is sin.
When temptation says, "Woulden't it be nice?" and the new man says "No, that is wrong, I will not..." That is resisisting temptation, not sin.

Like the old hymn says: "Yeild not to temptation for yeilding is sin."
---BRUCE5656 on 1/21/07


PART THREE:
According to what you have said, any such thoughts are sin the moment they surface. What then is temptation?
When temptation says "Woulden't it be nice?" and the old man says, "Yes, I wish I could..." that is sin.
When temptation says, "Woulden't it be nice?" and the new man says "No, that is wrong, I will not..." That is resisisting temptation, not sin.

Like the old hymn says: "Yeild not to temptation for yeilding is sin."
---BRUCE5656 on 1/21/07


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PART ONE:
Lisa,
Your reply is long on your ideas and short on scripture. If you cannot make your case from scripture, you have no case.
My reference to James should have noted James 1:14,15

Notice James says, "Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin:" There is an incubation period. At some point the thought becomes desire.
---BRUCE5656 on 1/21/07


PART TWO:
Untill it is desire, it is temptation. By desire, I mean a decision is taken to put the thought into action or the wish one could put the thought into action (Matt 5:28) even though they may not for fear of the consequences.

So, according to James, yes the old nature may express its desires (lust = desire and not necessarily sexual) but unless that desire is entertained/fostered/nurtured it is only temptation.
---BRUCE5656 on 1/21/07


6. John expressed the gravity of the false teahing by immediately focusing on a strongly positive affirmation of the historic reality of Jesus humanity. Although the false teachers claimed to be followers of Christ, their denialof the true nature of Christ (his humanity) demonstrated their lack of genuine salvation. The affirmation of a proper view of Christ constitutes the first test of genuine fellowship.
---lisa on 1/21/07


*Let me say that when a sinful though comes into our minds, it is already a sin.*

So I see why i was compelled to bring up my point. Lisa you must understand that a sinful thought is only a sin when you think it on your own(willfully think it) or you are tempted to do so by an unwillfull thought entering your mind that you accept and entertain(you listen to it). Keep in mind here I am talking about sins commited in the mind. Sins committed outwardly are different.
---Matthew on 1/21/07


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II) Imagine the sin of stealing. In your mind it is like "steal that", "I wouldn't do that", "Well he wouldn't know." These are tempting thoughts here not sin and it is a battle in the mind. Lisa I don't understand how you can't see the line drawn between temptation and sin. This here is a huge stumbling block for you. Sin cannot be forced against a born again Christian because we are no longer under bondage(which is literally slavery).
---Matthew on 1/21/07


III)If we choose to believe temptaion is sin we are stumbling in our walk of overcoming it.
---Matthew on 1/21/07


Thoughts sent by the enemy: You cannot stop birds from flying over your head, or even dropping poop on your head, but you most certainly can stop them from building a nest in your head.
---Eloy on 1/21/07


Hello Brother Bruce, it is nice to answer your post. I love to look things up so let me put down what my point was to Matthew and which should go for Morgan and Eloy too. It had a reason why I answered as I did. Let me say that when a sinful though comes into our minds, it is already a sin. The reason it comes from our minds as a sinful thought is because we have a sinful nature. Our sinful nature is at emnity against God. God's nature is pure, our nature is sinful. Anything not of God is sin.
---lisa on 1/21/07


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2. It is an impossibility for us to stop those sinful thoughts for the very reason we have a sinful nature that is against God. But to the believer, God blesses those that stop from entertaining to those thoughts. I gave the example of the thought, and stop at the thought, and God will bless you, if you commit the thought, and not make a habit of the tought, God will bless you. It is not our fault but the fault of our sinful nature that we think those thoughts.
---lisa on 1/21/07


3. and those thoughts are not of God. Yet He knows where we stand, that we cannot stop from those thoughts but the more we come to Him the less we have them, but at no time will we be able to stop them all until we die. The very reason we are corrupted and one day will be incorruptable. I wanted to make that clear on what I wrote so that you can see why I stated what I stated. Anything not of God is sin. Our very thoughts are at emnity against God.
---lisa on 1/21/07


4. Our sinful nature is still with us, and that nature is at emnity against God. No one in the world alive is sinless, not one person no matter how holy they think they are. They can talk all they want about their sinless life's but the more they talk, the more they lie. The more sins they charge to their accounts.
---lisa on 1/21/07


5. To Matthew, you are a great guy, and I love your love for Christ. You say, if you have a sinful thought it doesn't mean you have sinned. The reason it's called a sinful thought is because it is sinful or else it would be called a sinless though, like thinking about God, or Christ, or His death. Or your love for others. But when that "sinful" thought comes, it is already sin. Why? Because it orginated from your sinful nature which is at emnity against God.
---lisa on 1/21/07


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I know what your saying Matthew, a lot of these people have very different Ideas about sin.
---exzucuh on 1/20/07


*If a lustful thought enters my mind that I did not want there, then it is temptation to think more on it.*

Please disregard my commment here. That is quite wrong. I don't know why i typed it. *It should be If a lustful thought enters my mind that I did not want there, then it is only until I entertain and accept it that it becomes sin. The alternative it is to avoid it and throw it out of mind.*
---Matthew on 1/20/07


II) The reason why I felt the need to say this is because I'll say again many here seem to think that any sinful thought that enters your mind is sin. We cannot forget temptation. Even the temptation to think on sinful thoughts.
---Matthew on 1/20/07


I'm pretty sure Jesus did what every child, teen and young adult did in Jewish communities. he went to school, then he learned the trade of the family (carpenter)
---Jared on 1/20/07


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And once again, what book would this be from and what scriptures are you referring to? I hear a book speaking.
---Tim on 1/20/07


Lisa you totally misunderstood what I said. It's like this. Thoughts will come in your head whether you like it or not. You see sin must be a choice sin cannot be forced so when a sinful thought comes in your head that you yourself did not think on your own, it is temptation. If we do not willfully think a sinful thought than that thought is temptation. Until you entertain it it is just temptation.
---Matthew on 1/20/07


The teen years of Christ, that's the topic.
---Todd on 1/20/07


II) This is why I say again rebuke or ignore thoughts that enter your head that you did not willfully imagine up. Many assume they sinned automatically because a sinful thought entered their mind that was against their own will. If a lustful thought enters my mind that I did not want there, then it is temptation to think more on it.
---Matthew on 1/20/07


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III)Thoughts will come in our head that our not willfully imagined or thought of. Those are tempting thoughts. No matter what sin is a choice as a Christian. If I willfully imagine a sinful thought, well I chose that. If I didn't well I haven't chose that, but it can be enticing to accept and entertain. Instead so we don't sin, rebuke the thought and say no. Not all thoughts come from us. God bless. I hope you see where the line is drawn.
---Matthew on 1/20/07


IV) *Not until that thought is entertained and accepted will it be a sin.*

You seem to think I meant this as an outward action. All of my discussion has been about mindful sin not outward sin. Here I was talking about entertaining and accepting a thought in our mind.
---Matthew on 1/20/07


PART ONE:
Lisa,
You should read what Matthew said again. He did not say "just thinking the thought is not a sin"

He did say: "Just because a lustful enters our mind doesn't mean we sinned, not yet anyway. Not until that thought is entertained and accepted will it be a sin. Instead rebuke the thought or avoid it." (empahsis mine)

In that he is 100% accruate.
---BRUCE5656 on 1/20/07


PART TWO:
James said essentialy the same thing: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Temptation takes place in one's thoughts. Temptation is not sin.
---BRUCE5656 on 1/20/07


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Hello Matthew, you said that just thinking the thought is not a sin, but Scripture says, sins of thought are an abomination to God, because any iniquity no matter how small abominates God. But, from the standpoint of practicality God will bless you if you cease from your sinning. God, I am sure, would be grateful if the thought of sin never became the act of sin, if it is dealt with at the point of the thought.
---lisa on 1/20/07


2. I would pray that you would understand this points in a believers life's. You can say, "well, I thought the thought, I might as well do the deed. I did the deed I might as well make it a habit. " I don't think so. So, God would be satisfied if you just stopped over there, in the thought, and not convince yourself that because you thought the thought you're as good as done the deed, and you might as well just let it run its course. That is a no.
---lisa on 1/20/07


3. There is degrees of sin, and no one can escape that fact that everyone sins. While in the flesh we still sin but sin should not be a habit in anyone that believes. We have the Holy Spirit correcting us through God's Word as we continue to study about God. We will run into a passage over and over correcting the believers only because it is still possible to sin. The chapter in Romans 12:1-9 and most of the chapter, is called "Living Scarfices to God.
---lisa on 1/20/07


4. We are called to present our bodies a living sacrafice. If we were not sinners, God would not have to mention that to us. Under the Old Covenant, God accepted the sacrifices of dead animals. But because of Christ's ultimate sacrifice, the O.T. sacrifices are no longer of any effect (Heb.9:11,12). For those in Christ, the only acceptable worship is to offer themselves completely to the Lord.
---lisa on 1/20/07


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5. We are to abide in Christ as Morgan many times says, but at no time does a believer ever stop sinning. Our work is done only because Christ lives in us, and through the power of the Holy Spirit, who teaches us corrects, and directs us Through His word as we learn more about Him. Why? because without the Spirit we would be helpless trying to make it on our own. That is why God gets the glory and honor. He is the reason we are saved and will one day be with Him.
---lisa on 1/20/07


thank you laura.
the hardest part of this you can see it others see it yet the ones stuck in this rut won't see it. I have and had pride and sin issues anyone who won't admit it is not in truth. 1 John 1:8 (in context) Jesus paid this price not our works 2 Corinthians 5:21 (In context) since only sinless Christ became sin. no one is above that,there is no super christians just sinners saved by Grace. thank you again.
---willow on 1/19/07


The discussion here has nothing to do with the topic - teen years of Jesus.
---Todd on 1/20/07


Exzucuh, when a believer, reads a passage, especially a new believer, and he reads a passage wrong, as you have in Romans 12, they will continue to believe one part of Scripture wrong. They then will continue all through their lives believing that God has given everyone in the world a measure of faith.
---lisa on 1/19/07

It's kind of like someone saying no one can take me out of the Fathers Hand and always believing that all their life, even though the Scriptures say you can take yourself out.
---exzucuh on 1/19/07


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Exzucuch, my faith came from God. When He brought me to life, he gave me the gift of faith. We do not believe in order to be save, we believe because we are saved. Faith is a gift of God just as repentance is. We cannot repent unless the Holy Spirit convicts our hearts that we have done wrong. All is the work of God. If I had not been saved, I would not have repented, or believed. The lost don't have faith, the very reason we can say they are not saved but lost in their unbelieve.
---lisa on 1/19/07


.bruce, in Galatians 2:11-21, Peter was not a Christians, but instead he was a sinner; and thus Paul rightly judged him. Whenever a person leaves Christ for sin, they fall from grace, and in backsliding into sin they are damned. As I have always said, one either is saved or damned, but never both. There's no such thing as a lost found person, or a holy sinner; one either abides in the Ark, or else drowns in condemnation; either stays in Christ, or abides in sin.
---Eloy on 1/19/07


eloy,
How is it possible that Peter was in sin? (Galatians 2:11-21) Wasn't he a Christian? You have always insisted that the Holy Spirit has shown you a Christian cannot sin.
---BRUCE5656 on 1/19/07


Lisa where did your faith come from to be saved? where did you get it? You can't be saved without Faith. If God did not give every man the measure of Faith to be Saved, there is no reason to preach the gospel. That says God is a respecter of persons and he is not he blesses the sinner and the righteous.
---exzucuh on 1/19/07


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With the knowledge of what defines a sin the idea of God giving a person the strength to overcome all sin in their life isn't so impossible.
The problem is many confuse temptaion with sin. Keep in mind for us to have sinned in our mind we still must be tempted toward that. Just because a lustful enters our mind doesn't mean we sinned, not yet anyway. Not until that thought is entertained and accepted will it be a sin. Instead rebuke the thought or avoid it.
---Matthew on 1/19/07


Lisa you are right this is not a battle of the flesh this is a spritual battle.most of us run around unarmed but what makes me laugh is that there are many reading & typing these blogs and who wouldn't have the courage to stand face to face with their opponets.lololol
---willow on 1/19/07


"...If I put down something from Scripture it will always be for Christ and not to show that I am sinless or holy." --Lisa, Did Jesus say this: "be ye holy", "go and sin no more", and "he that sins is of the devil", or Not? It's not about what "people say", it's about what Jesus says. Twisting Scriptures to give excuses for taking liberties with God's Holy Commandments is like hanging ones self.
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/19/07


Exzucuh, when a believer, reads a passage, especially a new believer, and he reads a passage wrong, as you have in Romans 12, they will continue to believe one part of Scripture wrong. They then will continue all through their lives believing that God has given everyone in the world a measure of faith. From that point on you will be wrong in everything you study. A careful study as to what faith is and how its use in Scripture will bring light to the meaning.
---lisa on 1/19/07


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2. This is not a battle between you, me, Morgan, Eloy. It is of God's Word. And that should be our whole purpose. To get it correct. If everyone had a measure of faith in Christ Jesus, then the one's following the devil have faith in Christ. Yet their faith is in Satan. None would be lost if they had faith. The whole of Scripture would be corrupt because other passages will never reconcile with each other. But by pride will continue to believe a lie.
---lisa on 1/19/07


3. I don't ask you to believe in me but to check everything you read with a humble heart, and an open mind. If I put down something from Scripture it will always be for Christ and not to show that I am sinless or holy. I know if I agree with Morgan and she is totally wrong, which she is many times, just to say I love her, it would be wrong indeed. I would sacrafice God's word just to win her over, or even Eloy.
---lisa on 1/19/07


4. I am not surprise in Morgans answers, because she just has not studied Scripture from the right people. But Eloy, who says he is a pastor, or preacher, a prophet, sinless person, is no excuse. He should be very mature in God's word because he has studied, gone to school, so he has no excuse whatsoever to be so wrong in almost all of the essentials of the Christian faith. All I do is bring to light the wrong parts he uses.
---lisa on 1/19/07


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