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What Happens At Death

What happens to your body, soul and spirit at death? Do those who are righteous have a different set of rules than the unrighteous? Please use only scripture in your answers.

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Faye said "I have such a hard time remembering where to find these scriptures. But I know it's there." You're not alone. We've all thought things are in the Bible but on closer inspection we find it just isn't there. This is why our feelings must take a back seat to what God's word actually does say.

Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
---Geoff on 6/18/08


Why should Jesus say "I tell yuo today that ...."?
Why should He say when He was saying it?
It was obvious He was saying it on that day, not at some other time.
---alan_of_UK on 6/18/08


Amen Geoff, good scripture reference! Keep them coming, my friend.
---Todd1 on 6/17/08


That's right Todd. According to Isaiah 28:10, 13 "precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little." In other words we can't go wrong if we compare scripture with scripture for context and consistency instead of discrediting one part of the Bible with another part.
---Geoff on 6/17/08


Because sometimes we go to the scriptures trying to prove our beliefs, instead of allowing the our beliefs to come from the scriptures. So we cling to one or two verses that can be made to support our theories.
---Todd1 on 6/17/08




Elder Phil said "The majority scriptural references teach that you do not go to heaven immediately at death."

This is true and consistent with the resurrection-1 Thes 4:13-18, Rev 20:5. So why do some overlook the majority of the Bible for the few texts that only seem to say otherwise, especially when careful study reveals complete consistency?
---Geoff on 6/16/08


The majority scriptural references teach that you do not go to heaven immediately at death; not until the resurrection of the dead. "Absent from the body present with the Lord" is an incorrect quotation of a partial verse of scripture that does not deal with that subject. "I tell you this today you will be with me in paradise." we don't know where to insert the comma before or after TODAY; there was to punctuation in the Greek texts which changes it from Immediate to a Future event.
---Phil_the_Elder on 6/15/08


Faye. The comma should be placed thusly,"I tell you Today, you will be with me..." even
Jesus Himself didn't ascend into heaven until the three days and three nights.
---audrey on 1/22/07


Faye4464, did you read the scriptures that I posted on 1/15/07? These scriptures tell us that the spirit returns to God, not me. These scriptures also tell us there is no worship in death there is no 'doing' in death in death there is rest or sleep. I would question any spirit that is within me that does not harmonize and support the word of GOd.
---Ryan on 1/21/07


Sorry Ryan, believe me I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I can't agree that we know nothing after we die. What you are saying is that our spirit goes to God but our mind stays with our bodies. My spirit, which has the Holy Spirit abiding, cannot accept that. However, the Word says that each man must work out his own salvation with fear and trembling. Sorry, don't know why I have such a hard time remembering where to find these scriptures. But I know it's there.
---faye4464 on 1/21/07




Faye according to Job our spirit is what gives us a greater understanding. Your thoughts, or mind as Paul speaks of in ROmans 8, is either in obedience to the Spirit or the flesh. So the spirit has thoughts a spirit quickened by the Holy Spirit will manifest the thoughts of God. The mind set on the flesh will manifest thoughts of the flesh.
---Ryan on 1/18/07


So Ryan, you are saying that our spirit has no thoughts?
---Faye4464 on 1/18/07


All men, weather righteous or wicked, have the same fate, death, Ecc 9:2. At death the spirit that is within man returns to GOd, Ecc 12:7. The flesh turns to dust, Ecc 3:19-20, and the soul sleeps, Psalms 146:4, Ecc 9:5-6, Dan 12:2, John 11:11-14, Acts 7:59-60, Job 14:10-14, I Kings 2:10, I Cor 11:29-30, I Thes 4:13-17. In death you do not praise the Lord, you have no knowledge or thoughts, you are silent, Psalms 146:3-4, 115:17, 6:4-5.
---Ryan on 1/15/07


Ryan, Luke 23:43 "Verily, I say unto thee, Today thou shalt be with me in paradise." Couldn't this mean that anyone who believes that Jesus is the Savior will be with him in paradise the day they die?
---faye4464 on 1/14/07


Humans are made of three parts: body (earthsuit), soul (mind, will, emotions), and spirit (God's breath, the real you). When you die, your body and soul remain dead, while your spirit either goes to Heaven or Hell, depending upon whether or not you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord & Savior.
---Leslie on 1/14/07


Donna 9759; Will you now explain "spirit man" for my enlightenment. Does it have all the qualities of your body?IE eyes,ears,mouth,lungs,arms,legs,shoulders,brain..etc..in other words a duplicate of your body? else how would one spirit man recognize another spirit man? Remember all of this weighs less than a human hair! If so what would be the purpose of haveing a body? #2
---1st_cliff on 1/13/07


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Donna9759; #2.Problem is that the belief that something escapes the body at death comes from Egyptian mythology,they mummified the body believing it was the home of the soul and by doing so the soul could revisit the body at will. Convesely the Isrealites believed that the rested in the grave awaiting a resurrection!That still holds true of Christians.NO smoke and mirrors or double talk .Plain and simple.
---1st_cliff on 1/13/07


Donna9759 what is your understanding of a prophet?
---Ryan on 1/12/07


For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4. And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures
(I Cor 15:3-4)
Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened except it die: (v36)
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Rom 5:8)
And some say Jesus didn't die. Where will they appear?
---Elder on 1/12/07


Your body will perish in the grave it is corruptible. Your soul will rest in the place that you are buried awaiting Judgement.Your spirit will accompany your soul. God will give all whom have their name written in the Lambs book of life a new name, a new garment/body/shape/form/ which ever that is according to his decision, and then he will wipe away our tears, and memory and we will dwell with him for ever in the New Jerusalem/Heaven according to what we have done to warrant the place(earth/heaven)
---Carla5754 on 1/12/07


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1st Cliff - Jesus said, "Father, into your hand I command my SPIRIT." Jesus's body did indeed die, but His spirit went to be with the Father. On the third day He rose again. His body was reunited with His Spirit. When I said Jesus never died, I meant his Spirit man went to be with the Father, His body did indeed did die. I apologize for not coming across clearly. I can't explain it any clearer than that. Sorry.
---Donna9759 on 1/12/07


1st Cliff- may I kindly ask, "What planet are you from?" I'm not being sarcastic.

You asked: If you go to heaven when your body dies,what will you look like? a puff of smoke?
OUR SPIRIT MAN GOES TO HEAVEN WHEN WE DIE.

Will you have a brain (it will still be in the casket) will you see and hear? OUR SPIRIT MAN IS THE REAL YOU, THE REAL ME. OUR BODY IS A SHELL THAT HOUSES OUR SPIRIT and SOUL. Thought you knew that 1st Cliff. I am running out of space..
---Donna9759 on 1/12/07


Ryan, you say, "Israel disagreed with the prophets alot too."

Are you saying that you Ryan are a prophet of God?
---Donna9759 on 1/12/07


The bible says when we die our spirt goes back to God from which it came the body goes to the grave All so when Jeasus carried his own blood back to heaven with him
---Betty on 1/12/07


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Cliff, your questions have been answered by me and others so many times. You are playing a scratched record.
You ask in the same old stuff. No matter what anyone shows you from Scripture you will reject it as you have done in the past.
Separate the body from the soul/spirit and you will begin to understand if you want to.
I still believe your whole purpose is to blow smoke and confuse. If not then you are really confused. Next you will post your rejection of Scripture again.
---Elder on 1/12/07


#1 Death is commonly refered to as 'sleep' in the bible, which is probably a more accurate definition.
---Ryan on 1/12/07


#2 The body is composed of three elements; body, soul & spirit. Upon death the body returns to dust.
---Ryan on 1/12/07


#3 Your soul is the part of you that gives you animation, it functions the systems of the body, just as the beasts. Israel was ordered no to drink the blood of animals because the life was in the blood.
---Ryan on 1/12/07


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#4 The human soul has an intersting make up because it is the result of the breath of God mixing with the shell of earth, almost like a chemical reaction; the two elements, body and breath of God, reacted with each other and formed the soul. So the soul is attached to the house of flesh and to the spirit of GOd.
---Ryan on 1/12/07


#5 The spirit gives you understanding a higher level of consciousness, if you will. The spirit was given to you by God and God is the GOd of all spirits; so at death your spirit returns home. A record of you, the 'rephaim' or 'rapha', is stored here on earth awaiting resurrection. All that die will be resurrected in either the first or second resurrection.
---Ryan on 1/12/07


#6 All the dead remain on earth awaiting resurrection. Those in the first resurrection will rise and exalt, glorify, worship and be married to the SOn of God as He rules His kindom with an Iron rod and into eternity. Those in the second resurrection will rise to judgement from the King of kings and the Lord of lords. Those that lived in Israel by Moses will be judged by Moses and everyone else is judged by their deeds.
---Ryan on 1/12/07


Donna9759 - ("..so Jesus did not die") -- That is the part that is a lie. Just where did you get that from? If Jesus did not die, then you are not saved.
---Helen_5378 on 1/11/07


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Donna; Thanks for comming right out an saying "Jesus did not die" (most fundamentalists believe this but never say) 1Thes.4.14 "we believe that Christ DIED and rose again" It was Jesus that had to die not just His body, else we have no hope of salvation! So you think He faked his death for the benefit of onlookers?laid "in the heart of the earth" still alive? explain!
---1st_cliff on 1/11/07


Elder;Can you show us the scriptures that say "resurrection of the body"? Also if you go to heaven at death,can walk,talk,see,hear,are impervious to temperature,wear robes recognize loved ones,walk the streets of gold,play a harp etc.. why would you need a "glorified"body? What is a glorified body?
---1st_cliff on 1/11/07


Emcee I did not say what you quoted. Here is what I said to Cliff, "You and others cannot separate the body from the spirit/soul." Meaning that they do not.
When you separate these as being different then you begin to understand.
What waits for the resurrection? The body of course. I am not my body. I am me. I am redeemed. My body will later be glorified. It will be changed.
Learn the function of the soul/spirit and body and some of these issues will clear up.
---Elder on 1/10/07


Elder::Am I to understand the body soul/spirit are integral & if not separated at death since you say "no one can separate the body & soul"so do they all go in the casket or be cremated??Eccles12;5-7,says different,please acknowledge.
---EMCEE on 1/10/07


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Donna9759, Israel disagreed with the prophets alot too. And it was for the same reason many disagree with many of the things that I present that are founded in scripture; they didn't read for understanding they read to manipulate the scriptures into what they wanted them to say.
---Ryan on 1/10/07


Donna9759; If you go to heaven when your body dies,what will you look like? a puff of smoke?Will you have a brain (it will still be in the casket) will you see and hear? (your eyes and ears will still be in casket) Will you recognize any other bodyless wisps of nothingness? With no arms and shoulders,how will you wear a robe? Scripture says you wait for a resurrection!
---1st_cliff on 1/10/07


Cliff you post those references but refuse to post that Jesus said, "I am come to give you life." Those who believe on Jesus will have life. He gives it. John 3:16 and other verses say eternal life.
You and others cannot separate the body from the spirit/soul so are mislead in your thinking and belief unless of course you willing reject the truth.
---Elder on 1/10/07


1st Cliff, I thought death had no power over Jesus? Isn't that what Paul states in his epistles? And didn't Jesus spend 3 days in the heart of the earth? That's in Matthew, so Jesus did not die. He went into the earth (hell) for 3 days, and then he rose again, appearted to the disciples, then ascended into heaven. What part of this isn't truth?
---Donna9759 on 1/10/07


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Ryan, too many folks on here, the heavy hitters who walk in truth and speak the truth have challenged you enough for me to realize you miss the mark on alot of your interpretation of the scripture. I am going directly to heaven when my body dies on this earth. I already told the Lord how brokenhearted I'd be if He made me go through all this suffering and painful stuff just to refine me to lay in a coffin until He decides to resurrent me. That's just not scriptural. God Bless all of you Mightily.
---Donna9759 on 1/10/07


Amen 1st Cliff.

I have responded to this question on a number of blogs so I will not again repeat myself. However I know your post will be rebuked so I would like it known that I, for one, stand in agreement with your statements.
---joseph on 1/9/07


when one dies, the body perishes back to dust and the breath God gave goes back to Him. we dont go to heaven at all like some wrongly preach. we go 2 heaven if we make it when Jesus returns.
---granny on 1/9/07


Donna9759,

2Cr 5:8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.

Here is the scripture read it for yourself and determine who is twisting it.
---Ryan on 1/9/07


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Talk about scripture twisting ,this is the ultimate! Satan said "you will not surely die" God said "the wages of sin is death" All those that believe you don't really die,line up in satan's camp. those that believe God Jn.3.16 "that they might not PERRISH" line up in God's camp. Without death there can be no resurrection!(re-standing to life) How can you believe Christ was resurrected if He didn't die?
---1st_cliff on 1/9/07


Donna9759,

"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ..."

You are the one twisting the scripture. It does not say that. It says it is our hope, as Christians, to be absent from this body AND present with the Lord. Please read Ecclesiates especialy focus on chapters 6 and 12, they should enlighten you as to what happens to the righteous and unrighteous dead.
---Ryan on 1/9/07


(i)If you are not saved, you shall go to hell. If you are of the children of Israel when you die your soul & spirit go to Abrahams bosom, until the return of Jesus Christ. This is stated in Luke 16:22-23 and in Rev. 7:3-4. If you are saved when you die, your body remains here on earth and your soul & spirit return to heaven. This is stated in Rev. 7:14-15.
---ShawnM.T on 1/9/07


(ii)Luke 16:22: And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Luke 16:23: And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
---ShawnM.T on 1/9/07


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(iii)Rev. 7:3: Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Rev. 7:4: And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
---ShawnM.T on 1/9/07


(iiii)Rev. 7:14: And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev. 7:15: Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
---ShawnM.T on 1/9/07


There are plenty of instances in the Bible to show that dead people go somewhere and are able to communicate. Samuel, the rich man and Lazarus, Abraham. Elijah, Moses.
---john on 1/9/07


To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord means just that. You can twist this scripture around all you want, but it means what it says. Jesus also said, "TODAY you shall be with me in paradise." Eternal life means "never ending." So if our life ends for a period of time, then Jesus was lying when he said he'd give us "Eternal life" and I know He wasn't lying at all.
---Donna9759 on 1/9/07


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Let me finish by saying: For me to live is Christ, to die is gain. Paul said that. If we live our lives down on this earth in such a close, intimate relationship with The Lord God and we are doing His will, and we are truly in love with Jesus, then to separate us for a period of time from Jesus would be pure punishment for the Christian and I can't find any scripture where it says we are separated from Christ until He decides to resurrect us.
---Donna9759 on 1/9/07


The answer is simple. To what happens after we die to the soul. According to the bible and Jesus, is that those who die confessing Christ as saviour and have had their sins forgiven and I am one will go to heaven. Those who die in their sins will go to hell. Harsh but that is what the bible says. It is written once to die then comes judgment. Also he/she who has the Son has eternal life, he who does not have the Son does not have eternal life.
---trish_pinolo on 1/8/07


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