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What is your response to Jehovah's Witnesses and Latter Day Saint missionaries when they come to your door?

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Humble and Praise God for bringing them...
I believe he is the Author of my Faith.
More to learn,more to teach,more to be led by the Spirit.

Seek wisdom from the Holy Spirit.

God Bless.
---char on 8/7/08


"Hi.. . Sorry Dont want Any.. . Have a nice day!"

That's what I say. I commend others to spread God's Word and teach others about God. It takes guts nowadays to actually go out there and just DO it. I have nothing against them as long as they get what that first sentence means. Sometimes I might even talk to one of them. When I see a long wind blowing from their head, I cut it short. It's that simple.
---Nicola on 8/7/08


Going out to "compel men" and women to come to Christ is correct and more necessary than most Christians realize. Witnessing to others who don't know Christ is our passion. However, the specific instructions about allowing cultists or those who "abide not in the doctrine of Christ" into your home is straight from the word of God. If someone is a cultist they can't be dwelling, abiding or living in or by the doctrine of Christ because they don't recognize him to be Saviour and Lord, denying His deity. (Read II John verses 7-11.)
---theresa on 8/6/08


"Those that are lost or not God's children!"
---Mima on 8/4/08
Ever heard of, "the lost sheep of the house of Israel", or John 10:16: "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."? Seen, Matthew 23:37: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" You that are a biggie about "soul winning", those lost souls, where do you say they were lost from, heaven or hell?
---Nana on 8/5/08


My response is: Man, why can't Christians be so passionate about soul winning? When do I ever go door-to-door trying to tell people about Christ?

We can at least learn one thing from these people knocking on our doors: we should be out there knocking on doors presenting real Biblical truth!
---Todd1 on 8/3/08

You are so right.
I try my best to be polite with them.

I have found that after one or two visits with me, they realized that I am not weak or confused about Jesus' and His plan for me.
I always invite them back, but they never do. Even when they claim they will return.
So, it is they who reject me, not me rejecting them.

But, I do respect them. They have courage for Jesus.
---Nicole on 8/4/08




Those that are lost or not God's children!
---Mima on 8/4/08


The scriptures in II John verses 9-11 tell us how to handle those who bring contrary doctrine to the truth of God's Word to our door. We are told not to allow them into our homes and not to bid them Godspeed or we partake of their evil deeds. Witnessing outside of the home to those involved in false doctrines is different,but allowing the spirit of the antichrist into our homes according to the scripture reference is quite another story.
---theresa on 8/3/08


My response is: Man, why can't Christians be so passionate about soul winning? When do I ever go door-to-door trying to tell people about Christ?

We can at least learn one thing from these people knocking on our doors: we should be out there knocking on doors presenting real Biblical truth!
---Todd1 on 8/3/08


I disagree that SDA are anything like JW's. SDA worship on a Saturday which is the correct day of worship. It washe Catholic Church that influenced the change from Saturday to Sunday does that take anything away from all days belonging to God . We all know the first day is Sunday the last Day God rested which was Saturday.

Why distress the church about A day when all days are Gods and why judge a church who does not practice anything any different than every other differing denomination church. All Churches are differing, some people eat meat some don't,some speak in Tonuges some don't, some believe in all gifts some believe in part ?

However there is only One God WHICH CHURCH IS RIGHT?
---Carla5754 on 8/3/08


How should a Christian respond to anyone who comes to their door? Are JWs and LDS not God's children as well as you? Get out your Bible and show them their error if you disagree with their doctrines (and I do). But don't call others "cultists," as it is a derrogatory term which only divides God's children and shows your religious bigotry.

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and BE READY ALWAYS to give an answer to EVERY MAN that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

Are you ready?
---jerry6593 on 8/2/08




I have had them come to my door before. Sometimes I believe that it's a hoax. Other times I would tell them that "I am not interested, have a pleasant day". Then I shut the door. How's that?---It is the truth!
---catherine on 8/1/08


Ryan-I ask a dozen people,all claiming God is speaks to them about the meaning of something- I get a dozen different answers. When I read scripture I 'often' believe I understand what I'm reading. In person I am a good debater, but long ago learned not to debate religion, as some become dangeriously emotive. The questions I have, coming from Hebrews 4,5,6,7, and 8 is, "who has the apostolic authority to administer in holy things?" Born againers run from that, RCC people at least try to answer.
---MikeM on 8/1/08


MikeM., I followed a reverse pattern. I was baptized in the LDS church to please family. With my Mormon heritage of 150 years, I'm very familiar with the secret ceremonies and practices. Sounds like you'll be converting soon. I thank God that my immediate family has renounced mormonism. We are now ex-communicated.
That was a day of celebration.
---Rachel on 8/17/07


Because those witnesses brought the Bible to my attention, I bless them. I disagree with them in some important points and now they are the ones who avoid me. You know, the truth can't be shaken because its a rock that destroys everything that it falls upon. Usually the ones who escape dialogue are the ones who "have eyes but not see, have ears but not listen" If your doctrine is solid, then why are you afraid? A good Judge considers both of the contending sides, not just one.
---george on 2/12/07


I heard that Jehovahs Witness fear snakes so I got this dead snake Id found near my road and put it on my front step. The Witness's used to come every Sat. but they stopped after that day. (They came up, saw the snake and left.) Afterwards I did a ritual for the snake and buried him, giving my thanks to him for ridding me of my "pests."
---Gef on 2/11/07


That's wisdom, Catherine. Don't let anyone into your house, unless you know who they are. Especially if you live alone, sister.
So long now.
---Hudson on 2/1/07


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I do not invite Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons into my house, but I do often talk them out of their literature as I use it for my kitty litter box or to help start my fireplace.
---lee on 2/1/07


Now I realize that wasn't very good english.I will do better, GOD help me, please.
---CATHERINE on 2/1/07


What Mrs. Morgan said is very true. There is a big difference between works we do that come from ourselves and works we do that comes naturaly after yielding to God. Only by letting go of our lives and meaning in our hearts "your will be done not mine" is yielding to God. We are to let God cleanse our souls. I'm not talking about forgiveness of sins but the cleansing that makes one holy. We are saved by holding true to the Gospel.
---Matthew on 2/1/07


I really do not invite them in. Unless ofcourse, God tells me to.I DON'T invite noone in, unless God tells me to.
---CATHERINE on 2/1/07


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(4.)Helen_5378, Yes, there is a "false works" gospel out there, but it dont involve the works of the Spirit, only "self", which is in vain/worthless. Walking in the Spirit is NOT a do-it-yourself job, its the work of the Spirit in ones life, and people must YIELD and HUMBLE themselves in order for God to be ABLE to do HIS [perfect] work in our lives.
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/31/07


(5.)Helen_5378, God expects His people to separate all the different works, That being the works of [self], the works of [the enemy], and the works of [Holy Spirit]. God expects His people to depend on Him, receive strength and holy [overcoming] anointings. The Holy Spirit must be given freedom and liberty in our lives, freedom to work/teach/lead(John 14:26), because if He doesn't,backsliding will occur. God gives us His Truth, and EXPECTS for us to abide in It, because only[God's Truth]saves. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/31/07


(1.)Helen_5378, You said : "The Scripture you quote re works is regarding obedience to the Lord after salvation. It has nothing to do with salvation itself, as that has been paid for in full by the Lord Jesus Christ in His sacrificial death of Himself on the Cross for sin." --Helen, you sound like the OSAS people. Obedience IS required by God [after] salvation, His Word proves this over and over and over again. You say you believe a person can backslide?
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/31/07


(2.)Helen_5378, Why does a person backslide? Can a person backslide while they are walking in the Spirit? No. Are you saying that godly obedience isn't necessary to keep ones salvation? So then why do you believe in backsliding? What does abiding in the [Safety] of God's Truth/Word mean to you ? Jesus said His people will know the Truth and will be set free because of It. Any one who doesn't ABIDE in God's Saving Truth isn't free, isn't safe. God's Word must reign in our heart and souls, Its our safety.
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/31/07


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(2.)Helen_5378, Why does a person backslide? Can a person backslide while they are walking in the Spirit? No. Are you saying that godly obedience isn't necessary to keep ones salvation? So then why do you believe in backsliding? What does abiding in the [Safety] of God's Truth/Word mean to you ? Jesus said His people will know the Truth and will be set free because of It. Any one who doesn't ABIDE in God's Saving Truth isn't free, isn't safe. God's Word must reign in our heart and souls, Its our safety.
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/31/07


(3.)Helen_5378, Yes, it is true that we are saved by Grace, but read the Scripture after that too, God EXPECTS godly good works(fruits)in our life(which is the work of God, it's from Him, so you are right by saying we cant [contribute] anything to our salvation ), It's evidence that He is being served in Spirit and in Truth , and that is very vital, no matter what some say.(Ephesians 2:8,9,10)(John 17:17).
---Mrs._Morgan on 1/31/07


The cultist at the door may acknowledge some of the truth of Scripture; for instance that our salvation is by grace alone thru faith alone in Christ alone, but then add other conditions such as you have to keep the commandments particularly the Sabbath to be saved. It is always a salvation by works theology that is expounded at the bottom line.
---lee on 1/31/07


Jana, who is your Christ?
You teach that Jesus is the elder brother of Satan.
The Bible teaches that Jesus created Satan.
You teach there are spirit children in heaven waiting to receive a body on this earth.
The Bible does not teach that.
You teach that man can become a god.
That was one of Satan's first lies.
So you are doing what for who?
Yes, you can be religious and not redeemed.
---Elder on 1/31/07


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"and we as Christ, welcome anyone into our homes. In doing so n sharing, we get the opportunity to share truth with them, we dont get it by kicking them out do we Kay."

jana, the SDAs don't preach the truth. Their preaching is based on falsehood. And when did Jesus ever let those who preached a different gospel and had a different Christ come into where He was staying to have "bible" study? This is completely contrary to what Gods word teaches us.
---Kay6588 on 1/31/07


"Are u still against that? Then your not of Christ."

jana, why do you assume that cult members are our enemies? We can love them without going against the Bible. 2 John says "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him NOT into your house, neither bid him Godspeed." Am I against Christ for accepting what John is teaching here?
---Kay6588 on 1/31/07


jana, the SDA religion is a cult. They preach another gospel and have another Jesus. As a matter of fact, the SDA teachings are very similar to the Mormon and JWs teachings.
---Kay6588 on 1/31/07


jana, I agree with you and your a true christian by your statements and more so than some on here. I remember Jesus saying "Love one another just as I have loved you." by us shooing others away, then how are they going to know truth. I take my hat offa you sister. Keep it up.
---pokemon on 1/31/07


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sorry christian friends, the Lord's word is my answer and I didnt write the Bible. I go by His word and His only which is very simple 2 understand yet u interpret it to suit u. No thank you. I go by His word only as written. simple as that. You are wrong and the Bible is the only Truth.
---jana on 1/30/07


Kay, SDAs are not a cult group as u think. We r true christians of the cross and we as Christ, welcome anyone into our homes. In doing so n sharing, we get the opportunity to share truth with them, we dont get it by kicking them out do we Kay. Christ never ever did that in fact He said, "Love your enemies" this is one way 2do it n we have turned thousands around 2 the truth.Are u still against that? Then your not of Christ.
---jana on 1/30/07


"People, we call ourselves christians so there4 b like christians n invite the JWs, Mormons, Sdas etc etc into your home n hear them out n not kick them off your property."

jana, are you admitting that the SDA denomination is a cult? Aren't you a Seventh-Day Adventist?
---Kay6588 on 1/30/07


Jana, the Bible says otherwise.

We are not to receive those who teach false doctrines into our homes to help them.
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2 John 1:9-11 Avoid false teachers

..do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets shares in his evil deeds.
---Cindy on 1/30/07


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Jana - The Scripture you quote re works is regarding obedience to the Lord after salvation. It has nothing to do with salvation itself, as that has been paid for in full by the Lord Jesus Christ in His sacrificial death of Himself on the Cross for sin. It is a finished work, and if you try to add anything to it, e.g. works, you have fallen from grace. Man cannot save himself, nor can he contribute anything to his salvation.
---Helen_5378 on 1/30/07


Helen, u also need 2 know scripture well. Read James 1:22,23 b ye doers of the word, n not hearers only.4if ye b a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass.
---jana on 1/30/07


People, we call ourselves christians so there4 b like christians n invite the JWs, Mormons, Sdas etc etc into your home n hear them out n not kick them off your property. B decent ambassadors 4 Christ. They r doing the work as they belive it. I have invited many into my home and we shared the bible. Some r studying with me due 2 our sharing.
---jana on 1/30/07


I wrote about this on another blog but will here too. When J W's came to my door I invited them in and listened to them. I was amazed at how well they had memorized the Bible. When they kept inviting me to attend their church I said I will if you will also visit mine, and they stopped coming.
---Virginia on 1/26/07


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Caring - There are many Bloggers on ChristiaNet on the various Blogs who do not believe that salvation is in Christ alone. Many Bloggers believe in a so-called "works salvation". Many false gospels are propounded here. You need to know the Word of God for yourself to be able to tell the false from the true.
---Helen_5378 on 1/26/07


But if they do not believe that Jesus died on the Cross for their sins .... Helen.

Helen, you repeated the above several times. To my knowledge, I have never read anything from anyone on CN who stated they dont believe that Jesus died on the Cross for our sins so why try to persuade those who are already persuaded?
---Caring on 1/25/07


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God will deal with them at his time, and in his way. Those who abuse children deserve a millstone around their neck, according to Jesus.

Meanwhile seriously look for good Christian sources (books/people) which can help your understanding via reading and talking.

You will never be sorry for that, but please STAY AWAY FROM THE MORMONS!
---John_T on 1/25/07


Part 1
Mike, those people abused you badly, and they warped the meaning of a just, righteous and holy God, and they also warped your sense of what fundamentalism is. You admit they were irrational. God is also rational, unlike them.

As a result of their demonically inspired abuse, you are tilting at windmills (Don Q) but that is not your fault entirely.
---John_T on 1/25/07


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Augesta is the only one giving a straight answer, through i disagree.*

Mike, what part do you disagree with? I'm not sure I understood your question about Aaron either.
---augusta on 1/25/07


MikeM I did not give you a straight answer?
---Ryan on 1/25/07


MikeM - God is not a "cruel copricious tyrrant". God is love Mike. God is also a righteous and fair Judge. His Son Jesus Christ paid an awful price in the Sacrifice of Himself on the Cross for the sin of the world. God is very fair in sending to Hell all those who refuse His free offer of salvation. God loves you very very much Mike, and He wants to save you right now. You have not known love until you know the love of God.
---Helen_5378 on 1/25/07


Augesta is the only one giving a straight answer, through i disagree. Did not know "Priesthood of believers' was a also a RCC concept.

Helen; Then what you are saying is Mother Theresa and Hitler share the same eternal fate- pit in hell, that is one of the reasons that I left fundamentalism, as they paint God as a cruel copricious tyrannt.
---MikeM on 1/25/07


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Helen; The people I was raised arounfd were born again fundamentalist, they often said irrational things, things that would drive people away. Who here said; Country music is evil-Psycology and science is evil, and dinosaurs never existed?
---MikeM on 1/25/07


Caring - Yes, that is Scriptural to do all for the glory of God. However, works do not save anybody. A person can be honestly sincere in their beliefs and their works too. But if they do not believe that Jesus died on the Cross for their sins, then they are not saved and are not going to heaven. It is God's Word, not mine.
---Helen_5378 on 1/23/07


Helen we are taught that whatever we do, we do it for His glory meaning what Mother Theresa and anyone does, if we do it for God's glory then we are pleasing God.

St Paul said it also that whether we work, eat or drink, we do it for God's glory.
---Caring on 1/23/07


MikeM - Charity, or any other work, does not get anybody into heaven. Only faith in Jesus' sacrifice of Himself on the Cross for sin will get anybody into heaven. Mother Theresa did obviously wonderful work among the poor. But if she did not believe in Jesus as her Saviour and Lord, then guess what? Only born-again Christians go to heaven.
---Helen_5378 on 1/23/07


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MikeM, Christ is First Fruit. I would never attempt to assume that title it belongs solely to the SOn of GOd. He is the First Fruit we are the harvest. Aaron received his preistly appointment because Moses refused it. WHen Moses told God he did not want the duty because he was 'poor in speech' the priestly duty then passed to Aaron. This becomes very interesting if Moses was the firstborn son of his household.
---Ryan on 1/22/07


*Ryan-We all know about the tribes. What you are arguing for is the classic protestant 'preisthood of the believers'(Luther)-you call first fruit.
Yes, Christ is the authority in the administration of holy things, given to the Apostles. You miss the Point, where did Aaron go to RECEIVE this preisthood authority*

Mike, Aaron got his annointing from Moses. (Ex 29)

Also, in case you were unaware, the priesthood of all believers is a Catholic doctrine as well.
---augusta on 1/22/07


Mike, I can tell you're a reader and you've done your homework. Keep in mind however that the only thing the Church is preserved from is teaching error, not impeccablilty.
---augusta on 1/22/07


augesta, I read 'Gibbon decline and fall of the Romen Empire" Durant, and many other 'middle of the road' history books. Historical facts are facts. The protestants did their share of killing to, beating the RCC at witch burnings.

Today, as a whole they are a force of goodness. I just believe history undues claims. BTW, I think Mother Theresa is in Heaven, and so are millions of Catholics. They have a unmatched record on charity.
---MikeM on 1/22/07


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Ryan-We all know about the tribes. What you are arguing for is the classic protestant 'preisthood of the believers'(Luther)-you call first fruit.
Yes, Christ is the authority in the administration of holy things, given to the Apostles. You miss the Point, where did Aaron go to RECEIVE this preisthood authority, I gave Chapter and verse.
Hebrews 5:4- contrast with Exodus 28:1
---MikeM on 1/22/07


Just some little known facts: Did you know the JWs are neutralists? (dont join armies). They did not back Hitler and were put in concentration camps and killed. They did not back Stalin and were sent to Siberia, to forced works many killed. In America, they were caged too. Did you know constantine was baptized by an Aryan in his deathbed?(aryans held very similar doctrine). But I don't agree with their belief that our Lord came in 1914. Did you know the puritans outlawed christmas too?.
---George on 1/22/07


Mike, sounds like you've been reading sour grapes history gathered from thorns. ;o Btw, did you know that the Catholic Church, during the Spanish Inquisition, is accused of murdering more people than were actually alive in all of Europe at the time? :o

What do you read Mike? Have you ever read The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah by Alfred Edersheim, by any chance? It includes alot of references to the church anti-types found in Hebrews.

con't
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


2. Read Mt.7 carefully where Jesus speaks of the fruits. Here He's warning us to beware of false prophets (religious preachers). Jesus said "Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" In other words, what is the *source* of their teachings? At the end Jesus said: "Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Then He repeats it... and said "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." con't
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


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3. We may not recognize them by their appearance but we will by their fruits - good ones being plentiful. Keep reading Mt 8 & 9 and see how they 'spread abroad his fame in all country' & how the harvest is plenteous. The fruits of His church are abundant while the Gnostic sects that made apostolic claims are where now? history; cast into the fire because they didn't build on the rock. Keep in mind also that Jesus said there will be tares in His Church and scandals will come. con't
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


4. Read what Ignatius said "He, therefore, that separates himself from such, and does not meet in the society where sacrifices are offered, and with the Church of the first-born whose names are written in heaven, is a wolf in sheep's clothing... Do ye, beloved, be careful to be subject to the bishop, and the presbyters and the deacons. For he that is subject to these is obedient to Christ, who has appointed them; but he that is disobedient to these is disobedient to Christ Jesus." cont
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


5. And "he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him." For he that yields not obedience to his superiors is self-confident, quarrelsome, and proud. But God, says "resisteth the proud, but giveth grace to the humble"... The Lord also says to the priests "He that heareth you, heareth Me; and he that heareth Me, heareth the Father that sent Me. He that despiseth you, despiseth Me; and he that despiseth Me, despiseth Him that sent Me."
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


Mike, sounds like you've been reading sour grapes history gathered from thorns. ;o Btw, did you know that the Catholic Church, during the Spanish Inquisition, is accused of murdering more people than were actually alive in all of Europe at the time? :o

What do you read Mike? Have you ever read The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah by Alfred Edersheim, by any chance? It includes alot of references to the church anti-types found in Hebrews.

con't
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


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2. Read Mt.7 carefully where Jesus speaks of the fruits. Here He's warning us to beware of false prophets (religious preachers). Jesus said "Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" In other words, what is the *source* of their teachings? At the end Jesus said: "Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Then He repeats it... and said "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." con't
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


3. We may not recognize them by their appearance but we will by their fruits - good ones being plentiful. Keep reading Mt 8 & 9 and see how they 'spread abroad his fame in all country' & how the harvest is plenteous. The fruits of His church are abundant while the Gnostic sects that made apostolic claims are where now? history; cast into the fire because they didn't build on the rock. Keep in mind also that Jesus said there will be tares in His Church and scandals will come. con't
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


4. Read what Ignatius said "He, therefore, that separates himself from such, and does not meet in the society where sacrifices are offered, and with the Church of the first-born whose names are written in heaven, is a wolf in sheep's clothing... Do ye, beloved, be careful to be subject to the bishop, and the presbyters and the deacons. For he that is subject to these is obedient to Christ, who has appointed them; but he that is disobedient to these is disobedient to Christ Jesus." cont
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


5. And "he that obeyeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him." For he that yields not obedience to his superiors is self-confident, quarrelsome, and proud. But God, says "resisteth the proud, but giveth grace to the humble"... The Lord also says to the priests "He that heareth you, heareth Me; and he that heareth Me, heareth the Father that sent Me. He that despiseth you, despiseth Me; and he that despiseth Me, despiseth Him that sent Me."
---augua9846 on 1/21/07


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#1 MikeM, The chapters you speak of in Hebrews refer to a passing of covenants. This passing of covenants established a new and superior priesthood, of Christ Jesus. The priesthood of Israel passed in a bloodline out of the tribe of Levi. Christ was not out of the tribe of Levi and He is mankinds High Priest. The children of God are brothers to the First Fruit.
---Ryan on 1/21/07


#2 MikeM, Christ is the authority in the administration of the things that are holy. Apostles only had this authority because Christ gave it to them, nothing has changed in regads to the administration of holy things.
---Ryan on 1/21/07


!.augesta-Your point is valid. I agree with most of your points, all based based on scripture, like 2 Tim 2:2: As well as your point, "This was the only way that people could know if the person preaching had any authority." that I very much agree with. Christ and paul also made it clear in everal other places about apostolic ordination. Paul says "do not forget the ordanances I gave you."
---MikeM on 1/21/07


augesta Here is the problem

1. Church's claiming apostolic succession. The eastern orthodox, the Coptic, and the RCC.

2. From the apostles to Constantine a 'falling away'-scripture changed, lost, many sects claiming apostolic succession, the Roman Bishop made one of those claims.

3. Jesus spoke about fruits. The RCC has many saintly people, but also a very dark history(all past)wars, pograms, inqusitions, clergy supported evil regimes, etc. It's fruits questionable.
---MikeM on 1/21/07


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augesta

4. Compromise. From Constantine on great amounts of pagan beliefs, greek philosophy were taken into the Church. These can be itemized.

Today the RCC is a force for goodness. When a 'scoutmaster' I worked with/around fine RCC people, many I called friends, many with Christlike qualities. I would rather have an observant RCC family next door, and do, than most anything else. I gave you my reason why I believe it is not 'the true Church.'
---MikeM on 1/21/07


Todd: U are correct.

I find myself being being so wordy and looking for ways to reduce the size of my posts.

Sorry for the confusion.
---TDG on 1/21/07


Ryan, to be specific, Hebrews 5:4- contrast with Exodus 28:1. Well as a protestant can you offer any claim of authority to administer in such things as was given to Aaron?
---MikeM on 1/21/07


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