Is Guilt A Weapon Of The Devil
Do you agree with this statement? A favorite weapon of the devil is GUILT. The devil uses guilt to keep people weighed down, unable to witness or function boldly on behalf of the Lord.
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---Mima on 1/16/07
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Here is part of 2 Cor. 7:10 cannot be out of context and is about salvation,
" For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted:"
I believe this salvation is real salvation. And it also says in (v.10) second part,
"but the sorrow of the world produces death"
If those people Paul wrote to at Corinth, fell remorse for what he wrote on his Epistle the first time, he was glad it led to salvation. But, if the remorse they felt had not godly, it would have led to death. He was glad it led to salvation.
So the passages are talking about salvation. Because the context is about the first letter Paul sent to them (v. 7:8)
---Mark_V. on 9/6/11|
I know so many take 2 Corinthians 7:10 out of context, however one MUST go back to the beginning of 2 Corinthians 2. Paul was who made them SORRY through his first letter 1st Corinthians. 1st Corinthinas Paul really laid it all down, as these SAINTS were babies and acting very sinful. One man wanting to marry his step mother etc., defiling the Lords table and so on.
2 Cor 2 Paul begins with being glad he was able to make them sorrowful, where this man repented, and Paul requested he be received back.I'm sure too they were sorroful and repented over their ther behaviors.
2 Corinthians is not about initial salvation, but that continuation of an already christian life , being chastened which brings maturity..
---kathr4453 on 9/1/11|
Guilt does not always come from God. Using the same passages that Scott did, he did not mention the rest of the passages that go with the one he gave.
Here's ( 2 Cor. 7:9,10),
"Now I rejoice, not that you were made sorry, but that your sorrow led to repentance. For you were made sorry in a godly manner, that you might suffer loss from us in nothing. For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted, but the sorrow of the world produces death"
Here godly sorrow produces repentance unto salvation, but ungodly sorrow (sorrow of the world) produces death.
---Mark_V. on 8/31/11|
what is Godly sorrow and what is guilt
since the arguement tends to specify these two expressions i would like every party too express what is the meaning of them so we can talk more constructively
GOD IS GOOD
---andy3996 on 8/29/11|
---Scott on 8/10/11
Guilt says you failed and are worthless and should just give up at trying. This is from satan.
Godly sorrow is you failed but pick your self back up, go back to God and be redeemed.
This is the difference between the two.
---Scott1 on 8/22/11|
Guilt is from God
2 Corinthians 7:9 - 11
9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner. That was Apostle Paul. And he was telling the truth. The reality of Guilt is that God is the one who wants you to feel guilt- "godly sorrow" for your sins. Satan is the one who wants you to believe Guilt is wrong. Don't believe his lies. You should feel bad for what you do which is Wrong. That is God's Plan and required for humility and action necessary to proceed with honest and effective Repentance.
---Scott on 8/10/11|
I agree with that Mima.If you have guilt in your life then your Faith in Christ and what he accomplished for you is not where it should be.Christ is Love and there is no guilt in LOVE. Praise GOD !
---JIM on 3/29/08|
There is a godly guilt which should spur us to repentance and confession and contrition.
However, I've met a few people who think, "I'm such a terrible sinner that God would never forgive me." I've seen a few on these blogs say something similar. This exploitation of guilt IS demonic.
---Jack on 8/15/07|
We should feel guilt if we sin, however once that sin is confessed and we ask for forgivness from God our guilt shouldn't linger.
I DO think that the devil plays mindgames with us and tries to convince us that we're not 'good enough' to be forgiven and some carry guilt around. This guilt can come between us and our relationship with God. IMHO
---NV_Barbara on 1/18/07|
guilt is a weapon from satan. my husband has been carrying alot of guilt for years, he was not the perfect dad, he goes through this i should have, or wish i had been there. it is hard to see a loved one suffer with guilt..i did for awhile but i fight back now..its hard enough to have a loved one carrying guilt for what happend in the past..fight back.
---mary on 1/17/07|
I would agree.the saved have been found not guilty.scripture tells us that you are no longer guilty.guilt may not come from satan but from the flesh,but its not from God.
---tom2 on 1/17/07|
part2, conviction is from God.an awarness that you are a sinner and can do nothing to redeem yourself,you actually are guilty.but praise God when you accept jesus you are made guiltless,righteous covered by jesus so God sees you sinless and guilt free,because jesus has redeemed you thru his death.
---tom2 on 1/17/07|
I'll say what I thought would be understood, I apologize for confusion.
I'd love to hear this statement explained more from you.
Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things.
---Pharisee on 1/17/07|
The problem of guilt has plagued many a saint over the years. Martin Luther for one used to wear out his confessor after acquiring a feeling of guilt that he committed some sin. In that sense, the devil could use guilt to keep one focused on self instead of ones Christian duties.
In other words, guilt is a focus on self; not on Christ in whom there is no condemnation. Romans 8:1
---lee on 1/17/07|
Briar: When Lee, others and I talk about the SDAs, we talk about faulty theology. That is FAR different from guilt.
Unless you as a SDA say that having faulty theology makes you feel guilty, there is no common ground between either.
On the other hand, if you violate the rules of EGW, and feel conmdemned for doing so, then good. That's due to the false guilt the cult places on its adherents.
Good guilt drives you to Jesus, not more rules keeping.
---John_T on 1/17/07|
**I'd love to hear this statement explained, I'm not challenging it, I'd just like to understand. God bless you,**
I thought I already had explained it briefly.
---Jack on 1/17/07|
This exploitation of guilt IS demonic.
---Jack on 1/16/07
I'd love to hear this statement explained, I'm not challenging it, I'd just like to understand. God bless you,
---Pharisee on 1/16/07|
hahahah and Amen Johnt and you and Lee are great at that too u remember? where do u put yourself John T. You can talk hahaha.
---Briar on 1/16/07|
How true it is that the devil tries to rob us of the liberation that is in God's grace.
But rules, rituals rewards have been nailed to the cross (Col 2:14). Christ's Gospel is not based on performance, there is nothing we can do to earn more love from God (Ga 2:21.)
Praise Him who has freed us from guilt and the law in His extraordinary grace.(Ga 5:1)
---Edmond on 1/16/07|
guilt is a powerfur weapon, many covert servants of the devil use it here because their doctrine is based on works not grace.
---willow on 1/16/07|
There are some people that use guilt to manipulate, is this what you are referring to?
---Pat on 1/16/07|
Yes I agree that guilt is used by the devil on Christians. That's why Romans 8:1 says, "There is therefore now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life has set me free from the law of sin and death." Find out what this statement means. Study it, memorize it, speak it out over your life day in and day out until it becomes so real to you that you are no longer living with Guilt.
---Donna9759 on 1/16/07|
I believe that the devil does in fact use guilt as well as insanity, lies, fornication, confusion, chaos, destruction and coercion. He is also a thief which means he steals the blessings of others. He cripples, blinds and maims people so that he can use them
---anonymous on 1/16/07|
To say it differently: There is good guilt and bad guilt.
Good guilt drives you to Jesus to seek restoration, forgiveness and healing, becoming whole, and close to the Son; it comes from Holy Spirit.
Bad guilt is condemning, and makes us angry at God and others. It says you are bad, and offers no hope. That is the guilt that many abuse victims feel, and it comes from the pit, smelling of smoke; it comes from Satan.
Therefore, there is NOW no condemnation to thse in Christ Jesus...
---John_T on 1/16/07|