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Created Souls To Be Doomed

If someone asked questions, how would you answer? 1. Why didn't God in His all knowingness didn't know the devil was a liar in the beginning? 2. How could he fool God? 3. If he never got thrown out of Heaven, would there be a hell? 4. Why did God create souls if He knew they would be doomed to hell?

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i also struggle with these questions and I don't think there is an answer that would satify our human minds.It is times like this when we need to lean on our faith and know that God does all things for our good.
---sue on 2/18/08


3. If he never got thrown out of Heaven, would there be a hell?

Barbara
He (Satan, the Devil, Lucifer; the Morning Star) is not hell; he is in HELL!

4. Why did God create souls if He knew they would be doomed to hell?

Barbara
God's intent for all souls was to abide eternally in Love, with him in heaven. But it is not love if it is forced on you! God has given everyone a choice (free will). Some just choose Hell!
---Shawn.M.T on 2/17/08


1. The funny part about allowing the devil to do what he did is that it will all be for God's glory in the end. Some mysteries will not be resolved to us until we're eternally in God's presence. 2. An impossibility. 3. Hell's existence is not dependant on Satan's existence. It is a place set aside for those who reject God eternally, of which Satan is one. 4. If God forced everbody to love Him the the ones who don't would be complaining about not having a choice in the matter.
---Anthony on 5/31/07


God didnt create everything as some science experiment to see what would happen. God knows the outcome of everything. We dont. God only allows for things to happen to show us why. To show us that we had the choice and we chose wrong. God could have condemned people he knew were going to reject salvation without even giving them a chance. But instead he let it be clear that he didnt create unbelievers and believers. He created people that choose their beliefs.
---Jon_NPV on 5/31/07


The devils blinded them with science, sorceries, mental idolatry and other devices. It is sad that people have to stoop so low to take what does not belong to them
---anonymous on 5/31/07




greetings.God does not do everything.All personalities hi and lo, created , ascending or descending must and will prove their loyalty to the almighty.That which we know in this domain we exist in has been disrupted by disloyal beings who threw their lot with disobedience and others by sin.God did not personally create our domain ,our creator Son did.That which is created is not at its beginnings perfect.That is to be our future.Know and understand "be ye perfect as God in heaven is perfect"
---earl on 1/18/07


barbara,the only way I can answer this is by saying free will.God told adam not to eat,that if he did he would surely die.God has said I set before you life and death choose.just as adams choice brought sin into the world,our choices bring sin into our lives when we disobey God.satan chose to rebel and disobey,so did adam,so do we all.
---tom2 on 1/18/07


All God's creatures, including angels, are limited by time and experience events successively. God alone sees things as they really are in one self-consistent creative act that is OUTSIDE time.
---Jack on 1/18/07

The writer knows the Father, wrap your heart with these words and find peace.
---bystander on 1/18/07


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This thinking assumes God is confounded by natural law, that there's an oversight to creation that he not only didn't foresee, but is now somehow trapped by its ramification. All things considered, if that were true he wouldn't be God. The implications of this teaching lowers God to the level of limited man, its a too bad, so sad theology that has been passed off as God creating people with the intention of them becoming vessels of his wrath. This is very inconsistent with the God of heavenly reason.
---bystander on 1/18/07


God DID know all this. Satan used to be an angel. God gives angels and humans free-will to choose, not to be robots who are forced to serve Him. He did this so that angels and humans would serve Him with their heart, not because they were being forced to.
---Leslie on 1/18/07




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God didnt create Lucifer with the purpose of pouring his wrath but he allowed his creation anyway with full knowledge of what would come. Just to have the creation ours and his heart are set on when Christ will make all things new. God did this because he desires us. Without creation theres no you.

What's portrayed otherwise is a sadistic narcissist sociopath who is pleased by anger expressed to the people God "loved" in John 3:16
---bystander on 1/18/07


God created all things for His glory. That is the answer to all four questions. Nothing happens without God's foreknowledge.
---Ryan on 1/18/07


All is not lost. As it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end.

In Genesis, God created the heavens and the earth. God saw the light, it was good. All was good.

In Revelation, a new heaven and earth are created. God will wipe every tear, no more death, or sorrow, crying, or pain.

The Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End.
All will be good, very good.

Jesus Christ saves us from hell. The devil didn't fool God. God is the First and God is the Last. Rev. 22
---Rachel on 1/18/07


The simple answer to these difficult and deep questions--which can't be answered in just 85 words--is "free will."

How does free will fit in with God's foreknowledge.

HINT: All God's creatures, including angels, are limited by time and experience events successively. God alone sees things as they really are in one self-consistent creative act that is OUTSIDE time.
---Jack on 1/18/07


>God's plan in the beginning, is the same plan for the end. Eternal, Excellent, Sovereign, Peace, Righteousness, Goodness, Restoration, Salvation, Everlasting to Everlasting, Almighty, Unchanging, Sufficient, Protection, Power, Truth, Victory...
---Rachel on 1/18/07


1. Why didn't God in His all knowingness didn't know the devil was a liar in the beginning?

Barbara
God did know :-), Just as Christ knew Judas!

2. How could he fool God?

Barbara
He did not fool God.
---Shawn.M.T on 1/18/07


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