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Cow And Human Put Together

Recently a scientist took the nucleus out of a cow's egg and substituted for it a nucleus from one of his own cells. The new cell began to divide--but the mitochondria and their DNA were of the cow. Is this moral or not? Give scripture for your answer.

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Knowing what I do about DNA and strong gene pools I think this combination would create too much bull. I think it already has.
This will end up being a moo----t issue.
---Elder on 8/10/10


If there was such a creature.

It prob would have feet - legs like a cow, waist - belly - chest & arms - hands, neck like a human, the head of a cow, the voice half human & cow.
This creature could prob play the guitar, as far as singing & playing, it prob would be mooosic.
---Lawrence on 8/9/10


Ecc.1:9 "The thing which has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done, is that which shall be done. And there is no new thing under the sun."
I think all man is doing is using the things that God has already made. We are just finding out different ways of using them. I tend to not agree with this kind of fooling around but I can't say it is a sin.
---john on 10/4/07


Definitely! Backed by The Word(s) of God, not scientific evolution thinking or head knowledge, "nothing new under the sun" said The Preacher. A male & his female, clean (7 pairs) & unclean (2 pairs), were brought into 'Noah's Ark' [NO MULES!].

Since mules can't reproduce after 'their kind', where did they come from? Talk To G_d!

God evidently gave that fella Moses more than The Ten Commandents!
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 2/11/07


**Hence, mules are creations of post flood origins in Noah's time, not G_d/Echad's!**

Bob, can you say authoritatively that there were NO mules before the flood?
---Jack on 2/7/07




"Hybrid's" that G_d did not create [Genesis 2:14(22)25, 26(27-28), a distinct difference between mankind & animals]!

Everything God created He blessed & all reproduced "after 'their' kind", including all males & all females on earth, or descendents of one (1st Adam) man & one woman (Eve)], according to that fellah Moses!

Hence, mules are creations of post flood origins in Noah's time, not G_d/Echad's! Some people are unfortunately 'sterile' for different reasons.
---bob8749_[Elishama] on 2/1/07


Everyone knows ain't nothin like a Tennessee Mule.
---Rural_Cafe on 2/1/07


** Genesis 6:5-6. Where did mules come from if G_d did'nt create them?**

Mules are a usually sterile hybrid of horse and donkey.
---Jack on 2/1/07


Like I said before, EVERYthing we shouldn't do doesn't have to be in Book, chapter,verse. I'm sure one could find a verse about mixing nuclues' and cells and dna and all that, but not word for word. Just like we can't find in our Bible that we shouldn't go 100 MPH down a side street in a car, just common sense. right?
---sue on 1/31/07


This 'gene' pool could use a little chlorine.
---Rural_Cafe on 1/30/07




Genesis 6:5-6. Where did mules come from if G_d did'nt create them? They have never reproduced after 'their kind' despite Gnostic's, science, etc.

Like mules, we'll have to wait and see what The Lord allows to happen. I'm surprised they did'nt try it with sheep 1st.

Bottom Line? Another satanic attack by those with darkenned understanding, believing viewing mankind as advanced 'Gorrillas' origins, from Greek mythology, & missing links! Gen.6:1-4; Rom.1:1-18,>.
---bob6749_[Elishama] on 1/29/07


Actually, being an Orthodox, I'm not bound to the straitjacket of sola scriptura.

The fact that the Church says this kind of experimenting is wrong (as the Church decided what would go in the Bible to start with) suffices for me.
---Jack on 1/29/07


This is where Cowboys and Cowgirls come from.
---Rural_Cafe on 1/29/07


Jack, I beg to differ when you say "I know the verses, but they clearly do not apply to this case." My personal view is that if God made all things to reproduce after its own kind then that is how He wanted things to continue. He might not have said specifically "DO NOT DO IT ANY OTHER WAY" but He didn't give us permission to do it any other way either.
My opinion is that it is immoral and I believe that scripture implies this.
---m.p.a. on 1/29/07


Jack, I am not so sure they "clearly" do not apply. I do understand what you are saying... because these scriptures are speaking of beastiality rather than a science lab. Yet, I still think that the moral concept of interspecies mingling has validity with this topic.
---tofurabby on 1/28/07


**One little thing that should be able to help you figure that out is the term reproduction being common between the two. **

As a matter of fact, it's impossible for human sperm to fertilize anything BUT a human ovum, so the verses against bestiality (which are talking about different matter from fertilization) clearly don't apply here.
---Jack on 1/28/07


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** Jack if you don't know where the verses are about reproducing after their own kind you need a concordance to help you find them. **

I know the verses, but they clearly do not apply to this case.

I'm not saying implanting a bovine egg with a human nucleus is a good thing. Far from it.

I'm asking if this is against the Bible, and to provide scriptures that say so.

So far, nobody has.
---Jack on 1/28/07


Jack if you don't know where the verses are about reproducing after their own kind you need a concordance to help you find them. As for hybrids and selective breeding of any animal I personally do think it is wrong to meddle this way. As for different breeds of cats and dogs, most of these came about naturally from their originally being just one pair of each (just like all of us from one pair of humans) exactly as God intended.
---m.p.a. on 1/28/07


Thanks Leon..
---NV_Barbara on 1/27/07


Jack, the means may be different but the outcome is the same. One little thing that should be able to help you figure that out is the term reproduction being common between the two. Wow... I was able to figure that out all on my own. Now... were you honestly asking a question here or just creating topics so you can ridicule people who try to give honest answers?
---tofurabby on 1/26/07


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No, Jack, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that if something doesn't make any sense: why do it? Maybe I'm not understanding the whole thing, that somebody wants to make a part-cow, part-man thing? Why? Even if it was an expirement to see if we could 'substitute' our nucleus with an animals..Why? Makes no sense to me, but maybe I'm not understanding the WHY do it part?
---sue on 1/26/07


**God forbids humans fornicating with animals... Hows trying to create interspecies offspring in a lab different?**

If you don't know the difference between sexual reproduction (which this is not) and asexual reproduction (of which this is an example), this blog is NOT the plce for me to explain it.
---Jack on 1/26/07


1. Google "cow's egg with human cells" for info regarding Jack's question.

2. What God made is "good". Is it good ( moral ) to tamper with (change, re-arrange) God's creation? (Gen. 1-3)

3. Word to the wise (moral to the story): Altering, at the cellular level, God's creation isn't good & wayward humanity will have hell to pay for it.

Jack: No. It's faithless, immoral! The Bible is full of examples & consequences man has suffered after rejecting God's norm.
---Leon on 1/26/07


Ex. 22:19 "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."
Lev. 20:15 "if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast."
Lev. 20:16 "And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
God forbids humans fornicating with animals... Hows trying to create interspecies offspring in a lab different?
---tofurabby on 1/26/07


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Jack, the scriptures are clear that we are allowed to have dominion over the animals and plants... so I see no moral conflict with genetic research in that area. But it does not ever give us permission to tinker with humanity. Now, regarding your current topic of trying to fuse human and animal... cont.
---tofurabby on 1/26/07


Just a guess Jack, you either had to see it or read about it, I took a stab at reading material. I thought I might like to read about it in its entirety.
---NV_Barbara on 1/26/07


**Where did you read about this?**

What makes you think I read this, NV Barbara?

In fact, I heard about it on a TV show.
---Jack on 1/25/07


Tofurabby, if you know so much about how things look from God's standpoint, you should have been able to answer my question quite easily from Scripture--is this scientific action moral: why or why not.

You took a lot of words to prove you couldn't.
---Jack on 1/25/07


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Jack, Humans are appointed rulers over "the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth" (Genesis 1:28) and are instructed to subdue the earth (Genesis 1:28). Wouldn't that include manipulating nature if it benefits us? You seem under the impression that there is no dividing line between the animal kingdom and humans, so you think the same ethical standards apply to dealing with both. cont.
---tofurabby on 1/25/07


2. However, the Bible draws a clear line between animals and humans. Humans were created separately, in God's image, unlike the animal kingdom (Genesis 1:27). Our existence extends beyond physical death (Luke 16:19-31, Philippians 1:23). This is nowhere indicated for animals. God allowed humans to kill animals (Genesis 9:2-3). Concerning other humans, He gave the commandment: "Thou shalt not kill"(Exodus 20:13). cont.
---tofurabby on 1/25/07


3. God entrusted humans with dominion over the animal kingdom (Genesis 1:26). But humans were never told to have dominion over other humans. Animals and plants are not equal from a Biblical stand point.
---tofurabby on 1/25/07


** Jack, sometimes we shouldn't have to have the 'chapter, book and verse' to know something is not right. Just use our God given common sense!**

Sue, are you saying that the Bible does NOT speak to all the new moral and ethical issues of modern life?
---Jack on 1/25/07


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Jack, sometimes we shouldn't have to have the 'chapter, book and verse' to know something is not right. Just use our God given common sense!
Ex: good one! Cowboy!
---sue on 1/25/07


With questions like this you can wonder why The Government is going the same route AT WHOSE EXPENCE.No religion in schools no justice in courts remove the 10 C'sReplace Pastors with people of another faith We are ducks in a pond
Waiting for Target Practice.
---Emcee on 1/24/07


This is just TOO weird to even comment on!
Where did you read about this?
---NV_Barbara on 1/24/07


Another though on MPA's answer.

"Reproducing after its own kind"--yet we find nothing immoral about practicing artificial selection, breeding plants and animals (consider the various breeds of cats and dogs, for example) for specific characteristics.

We even see nothing immoral about hybridizing, though strictly speaking, the Bible forbids it.

Now, just WHY is this example that started the blog moral or immoral, and back up your beliefs with Scripture.
---Jack on 1/24/07


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**I believe it is wrong for man to interfere with this**

MPA, can you tell us, quoting book, chapter, and verse of scripture just WHY this is wrong?
---Jack on 1/24/07


Signs Your Cow has Gone Mad

Insists on wearing a little A-1 Sauce behind the ears

Your cow takes up painting and cuts off one of its' ears

Your cow wants silicon implants

Your cow appears on Oprah, claiming to be a human trapped in cow's body
---Rural_Cafe on 1/24/07


I wonder if they are tring to make a minotar (a bullheaded man). they don't need to do it, we childern of Adam are bullheaded enough.
Exodus 22:19
19Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.

lets let GOD deal with this.
---willow on 1/24/07


I don't blieve that there is anything specifically in Scripture about this excepting possibly this:

Lev 19:19. You shall keep My statutes. You shall not let your livestock breed with another kind. You shall not sow your field with mixed seed, nor shall a garment of mixed linen and wool be upon you.

Now, I realize that we are free of the kosher laws of the Old Testement, but this is all I can find that would be a prohibition against doing such a thing.--Con't
---Rick_D on 1/24/07


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I thought that was where cowboys came from.
---exzucuh on 1/24/07


#2 On the other hand, if this thiing was allowed to come to maturity, and be born, would it be a man or a cow? I would think that this mixing of things would still be unwise.
---Rick_D on 1/24/07


What family does the cow belong to?

Nobody I know.
---Rural_Cafe on 1/24/07


**I believe it would be an abomination to God,to mix our genes with other species.**

Tom, if you believe this is immoral (if I understand you correctly), can you give scripture to prove your point?
---Jack on 1/24/07


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Does this scientist have a pal called Frankenstein??
---carol on 1/24/07


Because God made all things capable of reproducing after their own kind I believe it is wrong for man to interfere with this and create beings that are any other than the way that God would make them. Man will one day be answerable for this dreadful meddling.
---m.p.a. on 1/24/07


Moral or immoral, this cat's out to lunch.

What exactly is the purpose?
---Pharisee on 1/24/07


Jack, what in the world are you talking about?
---sue on 1/24/07


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jack, I believe scripturally we can do anything with the animals and other life on this planet we choose. God gave it to us.But I ALSO believe that any tampering with human genetics is tampering with Gods only design with a spirit created in his image ,whom he holds accountable and will judge.I believe it would be an abomination to God,to mix our genes with other species.
---tom2 on 1/23/07


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